On Tue, 2012-05-15 at 11:15 +1000, Bojan Smojver wrote:
I filed a bug recently against remmina
(https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=820815) which on second
look would seem to be unrelated to remmina itself, but is rather a more
generic issue affecting Gnome. Essentially, some
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=821289
You may want to make sure you have people on hand that can push the
button for you when the kernel panics on the remote box.
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Just finished fixing an upgrade of F16 to F17, where I have xrdp running
under a custom resolution (i.e. the one that no known monitor would
normally use). It seems that this somehow confused Gnome (or maybe gnome
confused Xvnc, or xrdp or whatever) in F17, so it would basically
disconnect Xvnc
Anyone knows what's the holdup with the Samba update (CVE-2012-1182)? No
new builds have been done or queued up recently AFAICT...
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Adam Jackson a...@redhat.com wrote:
Presumably because that file got paged out.
Think about it. Disabling swap doesn't know that the file exists only
on a RAM-based file system, and even if it did, doesn't know that we're
about to shut down. So swapoff has to assume that any pages currently
On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 10:17 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
But it still seems to me like disabling
swap on shutdown is useless work.
So, do I file this against initscripts or something else?
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Before I file a bug for this, I need to figure out which component may
be doing this. If one creates a large file (several GB) in /dev/shm and
shuts down, the system will take many minutes to shut down. Last message
before hang is Disabling swap.
Not sure which component is doing that and why.
Is there a particular reason Rawhide etc. are stuck on 1.7.1? Is there a
known problem with 1.7.2 or something?
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Given this:
https://plus.google.com/109995262342451767357/posts/FzpWWo4sRip
Would it be possible to get a 3.2 build for F-16, so that we can start
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On Mon, 2012-01-09 at 08:57 +1100, Bojan Smojver wrote:
Would it be possible to get a 3.2 build for F-16, so that we can start
testing?
I'm going to reply to my own message here, to keep the thread, but it is
really in reply to the other two messages, which I don't have in my
mailbox right now
--- Original message ---
From: Bruno Wolff III
You really can't do that the way things are now. That would block doing
updates to the current (in updates) kernel that are needed.
Good point. Didn't think of that, to be honest.
OK, never mind. Bad plan.
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Does anyone know why F-16 testing updates to the kernel, gtk3 etc. are
stuck in pending state in bodhi for such a long time?
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Frank Murphy frankly3d at gmail.com writes:
Have you tested them?
Have you provided feedback?
Even if I did, this would not help push packages that are pending to go into
testing.
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On Tue, 2011-11-08 at 09:43 +0100, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
Good luck then.
Thank you. Three words of hope: nautilus spatial mode. :-)
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On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 14:33 +0100, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
You won't be able to convince Gnome3 zealots.
That's a bit harsh, I think. They are just very impressionable folk. :-)
Believe me, a lot of people tried.
I would like to believe that a rational argument eventually prevails.
Vote with
Mike Chambers mike at miketc.net writes:
Reading all sorts of stuff or trying to but havcen't found yours yet
(don't like it neither, so wanted to see your thoughts on it too)
If you google 'on gnome 3 bojan', it should come up in top 10.
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Mathieu Bridon bochecha at fedoraproject.org writes:
And if you really loved Gnome 2 so much
If this is what think, then you really completely missed what I'm trying to say.
The main reason I'm using the fallback mode is the insanity of overview in
gnome-shell.
Don't worry - I'm sure someone
drago01 drago01 at gmail.com writes:
Just point people to the link directly if you want them to read it
(should be easier for both sides).
Spamming the list with links to my own site is not something I want to do. If
someone really wants to read that, they'll find it.
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Bojan Smojver bojan at rexursive.com writes:
Don't worry - I'm sure someone will write an extension that will nuke the
stupid Activities button sooner or later.
I'm behind times:
http://intgat.tigress.co.uk/rmy/extensions/index.html
Open source - it's a wonderful thing.
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Adam Williamson awilliam at redhat.com writes:
There's been one for months, and yet 'the end of that discussion' does
not appear to have come, and not all Shell users use it.
http://intgat.tigress.co.uk/rmy/extensions/index.html
Yeah, guilty as charged on the discussion bit.
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Mathieu Bridon bochecha at fedoraproject.org writes:
You probably want to switch to Linux Mint 12 when it comes out with
their GSME enabled.
Now you're being funny. :-)
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drago01 drago01 at gmail.com writes:
Not true ... I recommend reading
https://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Design/#Activities_Overview
I read that a long, long time ago, of course. In fact, I have written a
constructive critique of Gnome 3 many months ago, based to a large degree on the
very
drago01 drago01 at gmail.com writes:
Not true ... I recommend reading
https://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Design/#Activities_Overview
Just one link, so you wouldn't say I'm plucking things out of thin air:
https://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Design/FAQ#Why_no_window_list_or_dock.3F
This
Florian Müllner fmuellner at gnome.org writes:
Rebuttal only here. No new material.
Does that mean that the existence of terminal emulators for X11 is proof
of graphical user interfaces being a mistake?
Terminal and (I guess other) GUI apps do entirely _different_ things. Apps menu
in
drago01 drago01 at gmail.com writes:
Again, rebuttal only.
I didn't comment on whether your arguments are valid or not I simply
said that confused users was *not* the reason for the lack of
taskbar. distraction != confusion.
Now we're splitting hairs, eh? A distracted user is not a confused
Frederic Muller fred at cm17.com writes:
me! I'd click to see what was 'happening' on the other workspace.
:-)
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Mathieu Bridon bochecha at fedoraproject.org writes:
instead of complaining and being insulting?
Point to one insult please.
Constructive criticism is not complaining.
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Mathieu Bridon bochecha at fedoraproject.org writes:
[..snip..] and thanks to my incredibly poor focus [..snip..]
Oh, and I don't think I am a Joe Average or an Aunt Tillie: I'm a
Fedora package maintainer, Python developer, a release engineer for an
in-house Linux distribution at $dayjob,
w at googlemail.com
writes:
Yet look at all the happy users of
default Gnome 3!
I am one of them and I went directly
from the tilling-WM Xmonad to gnome
3! So you can't say it's only for
absolute noobs :). I installed it and
it took about a week to get used to it
so that I stopped
Mathieu Bridon bochecha at fedoraproject.org writes:
Right now, if I want to start an app, I just hit alt+f2, type the first
few letters, hit tab and then enter.
No zoom, no search, no expose, no workspaces, no dash.
Just see it that way: you have one powerful interface to do advanced
Kevin Kofler kevin.kofler at chello.at writes:
I, for
one, want my computer to work the way I learned and interiorized a computer
works, any innovative interface destroys my automatisms and confuses me.
I'm using Plasma Desktop with the Classic menu (not the default fancy
Kickoff), only
Adam Williamson awilliam at redhat.com writes:
That's really a policy decision for the GNOME / Fedora desktop teams,
not for ajax.
Yeah, I got that bit. But I'm sure all you folks are in the know, so I asked.
But based on what they've said in the past, I expect that once most
hardware that
Adam Williamson awilliam at redhat.com writes:
Yeah, I got that bit. But I'm sure all you folks are in the know, so I
asked.
No more than anyone - there really is no cabal ;) All I know is what the
GNOME / desktop team have said in public, but what they've said seems to
point in a
--- Original message ---
From: seth vidal
Install xfce. You'll be happy w/that.
Thanks for the tip.
Or maybe I'll just have to find time to (learn how to) hack the shell,
remove overview from it, bring back the taskbar and workspaces to normal
view and call it
Ian Malone ibmalone at gmail.com writes:
This is essentially giving up. It's frustrating to be stuck on
overview mode on a four core machine while gnome-shell is doing
/something/ but you don't know what. If it worked fluidly it would be
okay.
For me, it goes further than that. I do not want
Adam Jackson ajax at redhat.com writes:
As of tomorrow's rawhide [1], gnome-session will no longer treat
llvmpipe as an unsupported driver. This means gnome-shell will run even
on hardware without a native 3D driver, including virt guests.
For all of us gnome-shell sceptics that prefer the
I upgraded my three machines to (what will be) F-16 and I really wish to
congratulate all Fedora developers on a job well done. Especially
noticeable is increase in speed and responsiveness of my laptop.
So, pat yourselves on the back folks - you deserve it! And thank you.
PS. Of course, kudos
Panu Matilainen pmatilai at laiskiainen.org writes:
Makes me wonder why is rpmdb open attempted at reboot...
Not sure, to be honest.
What type of install was this btw - plain old manual installation with
anaconda, kickstart or install from Live CD?
Plain old install from a DVD.
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drago01 drago01 at gmail.com writes:
Radeons r300 are not supported so you will end up with fallback mode.
Ah, OK. That explains it then. Thanks.
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Panu Matilainen pmatilai at laiskiainen.org writes:
It gave a bunch of
errors and recovery blew it up is not sufficient information to attempt
analyzing what went wrong.
Yeah, I'm aware of that. I just wanted to find out whether someone else
experienced something similar, before I cry foul.
This is probably not worthy of a bug report, but may still be useful to
confirm a problem that someone else may have experienced.
I resurrected an old notebook (HP Pavilion ZE4201) to test some stuff
under relatively low memory conditions (768 MB on the box). Installed
F-16 Beta i686 onto it with
John Reiser jreiser at bitwagon.com writes:
I resurrected an old notebook (HP Pavilion ZE4201) to test some stuff
under relatively low memory conditions (768 MB on the box).
This can be simulated on any larger machine by appending mem=768m
(note all lower case) to the end of the kernel
On Thu, 2011-10-13 at 09:30 +1100, Bojan Smojver wrote:
Installed F-16 Beta i686 onto it with no trouble whatsoever.
Installing again, this time I picked the updates repository as well.
Let's see whether this is something that can be replicated.
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On Thu, 2011-10-13 at 11:15 +1100, Bojan Smojver wrote:
Let's see whether this is something that can be replicated.
When the installation finished and I pressed the reboot button, a
message flashed briefly at the bottom of the screen. Something like: RPM
database path cannot be opened. So
On Thu, 2011-10-13 at 09:30 +1100, Bojan Smojver wrote:
HP Pavilion ZE4201
Interestingly, the IGP 340M (RS200) ATI graphics hardware is still not
supported for 3D stuff. Just FYI.
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On Thu, 2011-10-13 at 11:44 +1100, Bojan Smojver wrote:
Interestingly, the IGP 340M (RS200) ATI graphics hardware is still not
supported for 3D stuff. Just FYI.
Even more interestingly, dmesg and Xorg.0.log contain all the right
things and yet, mutter won't start. I guess being in Intel
Kevin Fenzi kevin at scrye.com writes:
You may need commit on devel/master as well?
If you apply I can get you approved.
Applied. Thanks for your help.
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Kevin Fenzi kevin at scrye.com writes:
Done.
Still having no luck submitting this as an update via bodhi. I get:
bojan does not have commit access to cvsgraph
Anyone knows what else is required for a package to be submitted as an update?
It seems that commit access on the branch is not
Bojan Smojver bojan at rexursive.com writes:
I'm guessing these things take time to propagate:
Bodhi still telling me I don't have commit access to cvsgraph...
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Kevin Fenzi kevin at scrye.com writes:
Done.
Thank you. I'm guessing these things take time to propagate:
$ bodhi --new -t newpackage -N Initial package for EL6. cvsgraph-1.6.1-8.el6
Creating a new update for cvsgraph-1.6.1-8.el6
bojan does not have commit access to cvsgraph
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On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 19:16 +1000, Bojan Smojver wrote:
Hi folks,
Anyone knows how to contact cvsgraph maintainer (Marek Mahut)? Bug is
here:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=709923
I already built the package for EL6, but don't have enough karma to put
it in bodhi. It's
Just curious, did anyone try Cairo with OpenGL backend under Fedora
(i.e. so that components that use Cairo, such as GTK+ etc. all use
OpenGL for rendering)? If so, what was the experience like?
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Hi folks,
Anyone knows how to contact cvsgraph maintainer (Marek Mahut)? Bug is
here:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=709923
I already built the package for EL6, but don't have enough karma to put
it in bodhi. It's a requirement for viewvc, which I maintain.
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Michael Schwendt mschwendt at gmail.com writes:
Wrong terminology used here. Karma in bodhi is unrelated to who can
publish updates there. You've requested commit access for cvsgraph EPEL
6 in pkgdb, and Marek would need to approve that request.
http://bugz.fedoraproject.org/cvsgraph
Haïkel Guémar karlthered at
gmail.com writes:
Hi,
mod_python project is officially dead
since june, it had no release
since february 2007. You should move
to mod_wsgi which a community
supported alternative for python web
applications.
http://blog.dscpl.com.au/2010/06/modp
Just before I open a bug report, is this happening to anyone else? I
have a viewvc install in F-14, behind mod_python, that keeps segfaulting
Apache through segfaults in /usr/lib64/libpython2.7.so.1.0.
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Kevin Fenzi kevin at scrye.com
writes:
Possibly
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.c
gi?id=640432 ?
Thanks. I thought I was going crazy for a
sec there.
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Not sure if I'm imagining things, but it looks as if those have been
hosed. For example:
http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/updates/14/x86_64/
Any ideas?
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Jose Manimala josemm at fedoraproject.org writes:
Maybe it is to get populated after the release of Fedora 14?
Don't think so. These directories get populated as updates are released, after
the creation of the branch. They had files in them just yesterday.
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Martin Stransky stransky at redhat.com writes:
I'm working on it, recently it's delayed in rel-eng:
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/4125
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On Sun, 2010-09-12 at 17:50 +1000, Bojan Smojver wrote:
Isn't that a security related
update?
Ping...
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How did this slip through the cracks? Isn't that a security related
update?
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Parag N(पराग़ panemade at gmail.com writes:
I just saw this new build is installing .a and .la files. If .a files
are needed then -static subpackage should be created and .la files
must not be packaged.
I'm guessing you are referring to the libka-plugin-dummy stuff. I would venture
a guess
Bojan Smojver bojan at rexursive.com writes:
PS. I'm not a package maintainer, so I cannot actually do that.
I meant to say I'm not _the_ package maintainer, so I cannot change this
package.
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Bojan Smojver bojan at rexursive.com writes:
Bojan Smojver bojan at rexursive.com writes:
Could someone with enough karma rebuild krb5-auth-dialog 0.16 for F-13
(this is in relation to bug #597669). The 0.15 is leaking memory like
there is no tomorrow and I'm not getting much traction
Bojan Smojver bojan at rexursive.com writes:
Could someone with enough karma rebuild krb5-auth-dialog 0.16 for F-13
(this is in relation to bug #597669). The 0.15 is leaking memory like
there is no tomorrow and I'm not getting much traction from the assignee
of the bug...
Thank you! (http
Could someone with enough karma rebuild krb5-auth-dialog 0.16 for F-13
(this is in relation to bug #597669). The 0.15 is leaking memory like
there is no tomorrow and I'm not getting much traction from the assignee
of the bug...
TIA,
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Bojan Smojver bojan at rexursive.com writes:
No idea why nobody is interested in making
hibernate/thaw work again.
Er, this is boot options that Anaconda stuffed into the kernel line:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=572771#c12
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On Thu, 2010-04-29 at 14:43 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
It means that we will have hopefully reached a
point where all known release blockers¹ have been fixed and we are
read to compose the final release tree.
Hate to rain on the parade, but has anyone even looked at this:
Bastien Nocera bnocera at redhat.com writes:
Means that you'll need to use the proprietary driver for now. Look for
kmod-wl in RPMFusion.
Yeah, seen that one but wasn't 100% sure. Thanks.
OK, looking forward to the open source one in the coming months/years :-)
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Bastien Nocera bnocera at redhat.com writes:
The reverse engineering isn't complete, so the n-phy version of b43
isn't functional yet.
OK, thanks for the info.
Does that mean that the driver is usable with BCM4322 but won't go to N speeds,
or does it mean one needs to use proprietary Broadcom
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