Re: Fwd: Fedora 16 w/encrypted filesystem: unable to boot Xen kernels

2012-03-21 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 15:31:01 -0400, Gerry Reno wrote: On 03/21/2012 03:24 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 14:53:27 -0400, Gerry Reno wrote: From xen-devel list. How can I downgrade my Fedora 16 kernel to get around this kernel bug identified by Konrad? Yum does

Re: Fwd: Fedora 16 w/encrypted filesystem: unable to boot Xen kernels

2012-03-21 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 14:53:27 -0400, Gerry Reno wrote: From xen-devel list. How can I downgrade my Fedora 16 kernel to get around this kernel bug identified by Konrad? Yum does not list any other kernels other than 3.2.10. Normally you will have three install and can just pick another w

Re: F17-alpha: UI unusable

2012-03-17 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 16:36:07 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: Bruno Wolff III wrote: They didn't list the rv280 / ATI 9200, which was a very nice card. It was reasonably priced and didn't need a fan on the card. That's still the graphics card on my primary computer. :-) I st

Re: F17-alpha: UI unusable

2012-03-17 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 21:51:19 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: Hey, that's pretty good. Don't see any big mistakes, and they even got the i740 in there. Solid 8 or 9 out of 10 I'd say. I wish they had included chip set names for more of the cards. They didn't list the rv280 / ATI 9200, whic

Re: Question about commiting the sources

2012-03-17 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 11:59:04 +0400, Pavel Alexeev wrote: Long time want ask - why? Why sources not under git too? Is there any troubles with big blobs? Can I point on such files from web? How? Especially I need it to point on my patches to provide it upstream. Well one reason not to hav

Re: Non-free tarball checked in

2012-03-12 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 18:53:16 +0100, drago01 wrote: > > IANAL but I would call the odt "source code" and the pdf "binary" but > just use the term "documentation" for either. > It is not a binary in the sense of "compiled code". The GPL requires you to to provide the preferred source code fo

Re: Review swap: Summoning Wars

2012-03-12 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:22:05 -0400, Martin Preisler wrote: > Hi, > I would appreciate a review of this hack n slash RPG game. Everything FOSS: > GPLv3+ code and CC-BY-SA assets. sumwars.org for more info. > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=801092 > > I am not a sponsor so I c

Re: Non-free tarball checked in

2012-03-12 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 12:21:52 -0500, Jon Ciesla wrote: > On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Mattia Verga > wrote: > > > > And what about for pre-built binary files contained in source that are not > > installed in the final rpm (ex. deleted in the %setup stage)? Should the > > source be purg

Re: Non-free tarball checked in

2012-03-12 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 06:47:36 -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > That really should be a releng ticket not an infrastructure one. I have filed the following ticket for this issue: https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5124 Thanks. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://a

pdfs and gpl v2

2012-03-11 Thread Bruno Wolff III
egoboo is a gpl v2 project that provides some pdf documentation files in the same tarball as the source. Is it OK to distribute those? (I didn't any other license noted in these files but I could have missed one.) -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/

Non-free tarball checked in

2012-03-11 Thread Bruno Wolff III
I checked in a tarball for egoboo that turned out to have a non-free (noncommercial restriction) font file in it. The tarball has only been used for local builds (no scratch-builds). Do I need to remove this tarball from the lookaside cache? If so how do I do it? The hash is e6f3130695d297dcd9fe74e

Re: Enet update for Red Eclipse packaging, request for help

2012-03-11 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 15:22:11 +0100, Martin Erik Werner wrote: > > The current maintainer of both Egoboo and Enet seems busy and has not > had time to update Enet since a request[2] was filed in Sep 2011. And > did, at least earlier, say that it would be fine if another proven > packager too

Re: Enet update for Red Eclipse packaging, request for help

2012-03-11 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 15:22:11 +0100, Martin Erik Werner wrote: > Hello, I'm in the process of packaging the game Red Eclipse[0] for > Fedora (bug #800930[1]), but in order for Red Eclipse to not bundle the > Enet lib, it needs to be updated from 1.2 to 1.3 in Fedora (bug #739313 > [2]). There

Re: More explanation requested for warning about rawhide inheriting updates

2012-03-10 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 02:14:50 -0800, Eric Smith wrote: > The "Join the package collection maintainers" page gives the warning: > > I've never really understood that, but it's never previously caused > me any concern. Since I am now in a situation where I want to push > an update to a branch

Re: [ACTION NO LONGER REQUIRED] Retired packages for F-17

2012-03-05 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 13:44:34 +, "Richard W.M. Jones" wrote: > > Well I take back some of what I said before. In the new version > (4.0.1) the cut-and-paste C code for reading and writing images has > been replaced with use of the appropriate libraries (libpng, libjpeg, > libungif, free

Re: [ACTION NO LONGER REQUIRED] Retired packages for F-17

2012-03-05 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 13:03:09 +, "Richard W.M. Jones" wrote: > > ocaml-camlimages? I've kicked this package out of Fedora because > camlimages has a dead upstream *and* a lengthy history of security > bugs. It contains old C code pasted from various places, and really > shouldn't be us

Re: [ACTION NO LONGER REQUIRED] Retired packages for F-17

2012-03-04 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Mar 04, 2012 at 17:46:45 +, Peter Robinson wrote: > leonidas-backgrounds-11.0.0-2.fc12 This one just had an extra newline in the sources file and I have started new builds for f17 and f18. I push the f17 build to testing when they are done. Since this is only a build issue, I don't

Re: [ACTION NO LONGER REQUIRED] Retired packages for F-17

2012-03-04 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Mar 04, 2012 at 17:46:45 +, Peter Robinson wrote: > freetennis-0.4.8-18.fc12 Note that freetennis is waiting on a review of ocaml-calimages. I have tested rebuilding freetennis against my local copy of ocaml-calimages and it worked. I have traded some package maintenance tasks with

Re: Automating the NonResponsiveMaintainers policy

2012-03-02 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Mar 02, 2012 at 13:53:55 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > 2) It doesn't solve the problem of a non-responsive maintainer where the > requester *DOESN'T* want to take over the package. > > For example, just because I might have a an issue getting a needed change > into glibc doesn't me

Re: Automating the NonResponsiveMaintainers policy

2012-03-02 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Mar 02, 2012 at 13:55:11 +, "\"Jóhann B. Guðmundsson\"" wrote: > I'm not a packager already nor can I become one since I dont want to > maintain a single package in the distribution since "it does not > scratch my ich" but I would like to be able to fix things if I do > come across t

Re: Automating the NonResponsiveMaintainers policy

2012-03-02 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Mar 02, 2012 at 12:34:10 +, "\"Jóhann B. Guðmundsson\"" wrote: > > One way to achieve that would be that one could do so by becoming > proven packager through some kind of mentoring process ( which does > not exist btw ) I would think. I would think the implied process for someone

Re: Automating the NonResponsiveMaintainers policy

2012-03-02 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Mar 02, 2012 at 12:16:28 +, "\"Jóhann B. Guðmundsson\"" wrote: > On 03/02/2012 11:52 AM, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote: > >So I would make a contra-proposal. > > > >If a maintainer doesn't respond to a bug repord with the status new in a > >week - give commit rights to the reporter in p

Re: "master" branch still invokes build in f17-candidate??

2012-02-29 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 16:25:22 -0500, Tom Lane wrote: > > In the particular case here it was harmless, since I would've just gone > and built the identical SRPM in f17 a bit later anyway, and (I trust) > rawhide will inherit the new f17 package too. I believe rawhide still inherits from stab

Re: Don't be afraid to ask for help

2012-02-28 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 20:22:56 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Mon, 2012-02-27 at 08:42 -0600, Jon Ciesla wrote: > > > Seconded. > > > > And if anyone has gcc47 or libpng FTBFS issues, this is a great place > > to ask for help on them. > > Well, pulseaudio doesn't currently build, and th

C++ ABI rebuilds for rawhide too?

2012-02-28 Thread Bruno Wolff III
Are the same packages going to get automatically rebuilt in rawhide as well as f17? -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Don't be afraid to ask for help

2012-02-28 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 10:41:25 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 11:31:09 -0500, > Bill Nottingham wrote: > > Bruno Wolff III (br...@wolff.to) said: > > > > So far there is only an f18 bluez build. That will work for my testing, > > &g

Re: Don't be afraid to ask for help

2012-02-28 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 11:31:09 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Bruno Wolff III (br...@wolff.to) said: > > > So far there is only an f18 bluez build. That will work for my testing, > > > but that won't let me easily to an f17 build. > > > > Notting

Re: Don't be afraid to ask for help

2012-02-28 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 10:10:36 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 10:07:14 -0600, > Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 10:06:21 -0600, > > Jon Ciesla wrote: > > > > > > I'm not sure, reading that, if the fix

Re: Don't be afraid to ask for help

2012-02-28 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 10:07:14 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 10:06:21 -0600, > Jon Ciesla wrote: > > > > I'm not sure, reading that, if the fix is on it's way to pulseaudio or > > not. Which makes me hesitant to commit a patch,

Re: Don't be afraid to ask for help

2012-02-28 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 10:06:21 -0600, Jon Ciesla wrote: > > I'm not sure, reading that, if the fix is on it's way to pulseaudio or > not. Which makes me hesitant to commit a patch, though I would be > happy to if needed. Bluez has a build from today with the fix. I'll grab it and see if jus

Re: Don't be afraid to ask for help

2012-02-28 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 20:22:56 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Well, pulseaudio doesn't currently build, and that's preventing us from > fixing the bug that audio doesn't work in F17. The problem is apparently > in assembler code, though, so fixing it is unlikely to be trivial. > > Lennart

Re: Issues with yum

2012-02-27 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 11:24:55 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Feb 27, 2012, at 9:08 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > > I don't believe yum has a way to roll back transactions reliably. > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SystemRollbackWithBtrfs Yeah b

Re: Issues with yum

2012-02-27 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 08:00:56 -0800, John Reiser wrote: > > That behavior (no response to ^C [SIGINT] within 5 seconds) is a bug. > It's a _transaction_, right? So either it completes successfully, > or fails with no apparent lasting effects (except log files, delay, etc.) > So yum should:

Re: collectd & usrmove (iptables)

2012-02-27 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 16:40:10 +0100, Andrew Elwell wrote: > > would collectd5 then obsolete collectd on epel6 then? > (not sure how the logistics of paralell (or not) installs work No, that can't be right. If it obsoleted it, you wouldn't be able to install the older version or do updates w

Re: Issues with yum

2012-02-27 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 14:00:51 +, Frank Murphy wrote: > On 27/02/12 13:52, elison.ni...@gmail.com wrote: > > > >4) Quit on single CTRL-C. Users expect an application to quit on > >pressing CTRL-C. > >Reason to have this feature : Better user experience > > never used ctrl-c, normally use

Don't be afraid to ask for help

2012-02-27 Thread Bruno Wolff III
I am sending this because, we have a lot of FTBFS packages which I have see at least one blog griping about, I accidentally fixed something that was blocking other work (in the sense that I didn't know that other work that I wouldn't have to do was waiting for this problem to be solved) and I fixed

Re: Looking for a package maintainer for flam3

2012-02-26 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 23:10:12 -0600, Ian Weller wrote: > On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 10:33:20PM -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > I took a quick look at it and it looks like it's just one for one > > substitutions to use accessor functions instead of references to > >

Re: Looking for a package maintainer for flam3

2012-02-26 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 21:56:44 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 20:03:26 -0600, > Ian Weller wrote: > > I'm looking for a new package maintainer for flam3, a fractal renderer. > > > > I don't use it anymore and don't quite

Re: Looking for a package maintainer for flam3

2012-02-26 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 20:03:26 -0600, Ian Weller wrote: > I'm looking for a new package maintainer for flam3, a fractal renderer. > > I don't use it anymore and don't quite have the time to maintain it. If > I recall correctly, there's some libpng bug keeping it from building in > rawhide. >

Re: rawhide/F17 broken dependencies: please stop spamming

2012-02-21 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 18:26:36 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Half of the distro was affected by the indiscriminate mass orphaning done > this time. There was no way to know which packages would still have been > affected at the end. Packages that were affected via rpm dependencies were li

Re: rawhide/F17 broken dependencies: please stop spamming

2012-02-21 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 17:55:01 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > File a ticket with FESCo with your proposed change in the policy. > > Why does it need a policy change at all to apply a 1-2 day grace period? > (More days have passed now, but that's just because we all lo

Re: rawhide/F17 broken dependencies: please stop spamming

2012-02-20 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 16:56:28 +0100, Patrick Monnerat wrote: > On Mon, 2012-02-20 at 13:01 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > > *You* could have avoided this by _retiring_ "insight" properly: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life > > *** This is not a norm

Re: F17 Slowness

2012-02-16 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 14:40:53 -0500, David Malcolm wrote: > On Thu, 2012-02-16 at 12:06 -0500, Dave Jones wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 10:44:45AM -0600, Mike Chambers wrote: > > > Just seeing if it's just me, or we back to being slow again during > > > testing with the debug options a

Re: F-17 Branched report: 20120212 changes

2012-02-15 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 11:14:29 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > the rawhide and branched composes logs can be found at: > > http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/mash/rawhide/ > and > http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/mash/branched/ Note those are really the locations for the last successful buil

Re: Is there a way to passphrase protect my koji cert?

2012-02-14 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 12:38:29 -0500, Nalin Dahyabhai wrote: > > When I subsequently ran a koji administrative command, I got to enter my > passphrase a few times (and for some reason, while 'pkcs8' will accept > something fewer than four characters long for a new passphrase, that > requireme

Is there a way to passphrase protect my koji cert?

2012-02-14 Thread Bruno Wolff III
While replacing my koji cert yesterday I was interested in adding a passphrase to slow down exploitation if my home desktop got compromised. I've look through some of the documentation for maintainers and I haven't seen any instructions on how to protect it with a passphrase. Is this possible? (In

Re: Should we be using Bohdi yet for branched?

2012-02-12 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 16:43:47 +0100, Thomas Spura wrote: > On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > It doesn't look like Bohdi isn't set up for branched yet. > > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel-announce/2012-February/000889.html &

Should we be using Bohdi yet for branched?

2012-02-12 Thread Bruno Wolff III
It doesn't look like Bohdi isn't set up for branched yet. I thought we had made the switch over at essentially the same time we branched the source repositories in the past. Also it looks like bugzilla hasn't been updated yet to allow f17 as a distro version. It looks like branched package updates

Re: F-17 Branched report: 20120211 changes

2012-02-11 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 19:57:33 -0600, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > > looks like something in X packaging changed or didnt work as expected That was fixed this morning. I have already tried out the updates and they seem to work fine. openjpeg's soname bump might also cause problems. It is blockin

Re: /usrmove? -> about the future

2012-02-10 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 18:39:19 +0100, Michal Schmidt wrote: > On 02/10/2012 06:33 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > >It seems pretty common that updating systemd causes problems with the next > >shutdown. I don't know why and it is a pain to reproduce since it doesn't &g

Re: /usrmove? -> about the future

2012-02-10 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 08:28:28 -0900, Jef Spaleta wrote: > > I personally didn't experience that with the F15 systems I had. But > maybe I got lucked and dodged a bullet. It seems pretty common that updating systemd causes problems with the next shutdown. I don't know why and it is a pain to

Re: /usrmove? -> about the future

2012-02-10 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 16:57:18 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > > so if the releases would be more well thought i would have > time to write such things, but then there would be no need for it Consider running for FESCO this spring and emphasize your views on features in your campaign. While I

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED v4] Retiring packages for F-17

2012-02-08 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 12:19:53 +0900, Takanori MATSUURA wrote: > Can I pick up tdom? Once packages have been blocked the procedure is to require a review similar to getting a new package into Fedora. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/

Re: /usrmove?

2012-02-07 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Feb 07, 2012 at 20:57:05 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > On Feb 7, 2012, at 7:46 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Note that this has not actually been implemented in anaconda yet, so if > > you do an anaconda upgrade at this time, it will explode horribly. > > So the instructions here

Re: why is gurb-menu hidden as default?

2012-02-06 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Feb 06, 2012 at 17:22:52 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > GRUB2 menu is shown in F16. This is a regression compared to F10÷15. > > See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=757487 and linked > > bugs #737339 and #727831. > > this is a behavior that should never been changed! So

Re: Branching F17

2012-02-03 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Feb 03, 2012 at 09:55:34 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote: > Seeing the TC's for F17 Alpha start to come out (and see how currently > based on rawhide), when does the branch get done and set? It's scheduled for February 7th. You can schedules at: http://rbergero.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-

Re: Rolling release Fedora - fantastic idea

2012-02-01 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 13:20:58 -0500, Przemek Klosowski wrote: > > Precisely---but lack of the EOL path sometimes prevents use of > Fedora in the first place. Jon Vos said elsewhere in this discussion > that "Fedora is not for long term if updates/security are an issue. > Period." > > I am j

Re: Random koji problems

2012-01-31 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 14:19:14 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > AIUI, at this point you're stuck either reverting the /usr move > modifications in nss-softokn and building for Rawhide, or waiting until > we push the /usr move packages into Rawhide proper... What about untagging the current

Re: Random koji problems

2012-01-31 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 13:01:28 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > I just noticed that, for some reason, I can compose a live image if I > just use regular Rawhide repos, but if I add the /usr move repo, I get > this compose error: > > Error creating Live CD : Failed to build transaction : > x

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED v3] Retiring packages for F-17

2012-01-27 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 10:04:23 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 14:56:39 -0600, BWI (Bruno) wrote: > > > > Orphan xmms-pulse > > > > Since I actually use xmms, I'm taking xmms-pulse. > > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2012-January/161136.html Thanks for

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED v3] Retiring packages for F-17

2012-01-26 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 14:58:59 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: > If these packages are not claimed, they will be retired shortly before > the mass branch for Fedora 17 on February 7th. > Orphan xmms-pulse Since I actually use xmms, I'm taking xmms-pulse. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedor

Re: The question of rolling release?

2012-01-26 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 00:22:28 -0500, Scott Schmit wrote: > > Except that this doesn't burn people often because Linus is also *very* > strict about interface changes between the kernel & userspace. Hardware specific regressions aren't that rare. I have run into them several times. I have ha

Re: The question of rolling release?

2012-01-25 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 13:33:49 -0600, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > Bruno Wolff III wrote: > >Personally I'd rather see the effort go into making it easier to update > >between Fedora releases. That provides a way to remain fairly current without > >starting from s

Re: The question of rolling release?

2012-01-25 Thread Bruno Wolff III
Personally I'd rather see the effort go into making it easier to update between Fedora releases. That provides a way to remain fairly current without starting from scratch and allowing you to choose the timing of when you want to deal with disruption. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraprojec

Re: Rebuild for GCC-4.7

2012-01-16 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 10:53:11 -0600, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > > The Bulk of the mass rebuild is done and will shortly be tagged into > f17 http://ausil.fedorapeople.org/f17-failures.html is a list of the > packages that failed to build. im working on double checking that we > attempted every

Re: How to send a package update

2012-01-16 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 10:48:53 -0500, Julio Merino wrote: > > I don't think any of these gives package maintainer permissions. > (But also, I can't remember if I ever had those before!) You got sponsored as a result of this ticket: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=453821 You appe

Re: How to send a package update

2012-01-15 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 20:08:20 -0500, Julio Merino wrote: > > Also, I cannot tell if three years ago I gained some privileges that > I have now lost due to the conversion of the packages repository > from cvs to git. For example, a "fedpkg clone" without the -a > option fails due to a permis

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages for F-17

2012-01-15 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 11:48:35 +0100, Brendan Jones wrote: > On 01/14/2012 07:12 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > I agree! If a package is orphaned, can't we automatically escalate > ownership to the next co-maintainer (when there is one - perhaps the > one with the most commits for example). > > If

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages for F-17

2012-01-13 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 03:54:08 +, "Wei, Gang" wrote: > If I pick up tboot package successfully asap, will it still be possible to be > kept in F-17? Another message had the date the packages needed to be picked up by. I think it was February 7th. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedora

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages for F-17

2012-01-13 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 03:47:47 +, "Wei, Gang" wrote: > Login as gwei3, and enter tboot package > url(https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/tboot), press "take > ownership" buttons for Fedora devel/15/16, wait for a while then the buttons > keeps as grayed, refresh the page, th

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages for F-17

2012-01-13 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 11:11:13 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > The following packages are currently orphaned, or fail to build. If > you have a need for one of these packages, please pick them up. I have taken ownership of the following packages: fortune-firefly nethack-vultures sear sear-

Re: service and user-agent disclosure - please consider privacy

2012-01-10 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 22:50:53 +0100, Richard wrote: > > the privacy issue is a topic for Fedora because Fedora desktop users > have a substantial disadvantage compared to users of more frequently > used desktops. Intercepting a Fedora version string will in most > regions of the world ide

Re: pychess licence changed from GPLv2 to GPLv3

2012-01-09 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Jan 09, 2012 at 08:22:50 -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > On Mon, Jan 09, 2012 at 12:55:55AM -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > When double checking the LICENSE file shipped with 0.10.1 final I noticed > > it was GPLv3 instead of GPLv2 as noted in the spec file. I am not s

Re: Kernel 3.1 being phased out, time for 3.2 in F-16?

2012-01-09 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Jan 09, 2012 at 07:24:48 -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: > > If there's a concern over the debug options in the rawhide kernel > being enabled (which would be ironic, considering we're talking about > getting advanced testing and debug), the kernel team is going to build > one kernel per relea

pychess licence changed from GPLv2 to GPLv3

2012-01-08 Thread Bruno Wolff III
When double checking the LICENSE file shipped with 0.10.1 final I noticed it was GPLv3 instead of GPLv2 as noted in the spec file. I am not sure exactly when the change occured. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Kernel 3.1 being phased out, time for 3.2 in F-16?

2012-01-08 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Jan 09, 2012 at 14:55:58 +1100, Bojan Smojver wrote: > > I was thinking more along the lines of: > > - an official updates-testing build is more likely to reach more people > (it is great that that Rawhide build works, but not many will try it > like that) You really can't do that the

Re: service version disclosure

2012-01-07 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Jan 07, 2012 at 15:55:34 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > > i, and only i am responsible for the machines so why > do i not have a option only "SSH-2.0-OpenSSH" provide > to a anonymous client? You do have that option. That's the nice thing about free software. You can rebuild the rpm wit

Re: service version disclosure

2012-01-06 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Jan 07, 2012 at 05:09:42 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > > however - why do we spit the current running versions to everyone? It can help when trouble shooting problems. The current version isn't really that helpful to attackers anyway. It's about as easy to just to try an exploit as it

Re: Results of a test mass rebuild of rawhide/x86_64 with?gcc-4.7.0-0.1.fc17

2011-12-31 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 16:35:00 +0100, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 08:55:53AM -0600, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > > if we plan to do a mass rebuild for gcc 4.7 we need to start it next week. > > IMHO a mass rebuild is highly desirable, but (with the exception of > a few gcj/objc

Re: Announcing - A new way to make live media with livemedia-creator

2011-12-22 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 08:51:14 -0700, Kurt Seifried wrote: > Where's the project webpage for lorax? Google doesn't seem to find it. > Thanks in advance. rpm -qi lorax says its: http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=lorax.git -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedo

Re: xosd orphaned?

2011-12-18 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 10:25:55 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 21:05:42 +0400 > "Pavel Alexeev (aka Pahan-Hubbitus)" wrote: > > > Sorry, I saw it deprecated. Anyone known is there any drop-in > > alternative? > > > > And why it was orphaned? > > gdk-pixbuf that it needed wa

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCO meeting (2011-12-12 at 1800 UTC)

2011-12-12 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 15:21:11 -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > Of course, a whitelist might be a better idea. Maybe we only > allow .tar.gz, .tar.bz2 and .zip to be uploaded this way and make > additional exceptions as they arise. .tgz is another common extension. -- devel mailing list

Re: Upgrading libpng: shall we move to 1.4.x or 1.5.x?

2011-12-05 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Dec 05, 2011 at 17:44:12 +, Peter Robinson wrote: > > Go for it, I think it makes sense. For those that don't support 1.5 > they can stay against the compat in the mean time. Based on the sample I worked with, most of the ones with failed builds are likely to be easy to fix. Are b

Re: Reminder: Fedora password and ssh key change deadline looms (2 days left!)

2011-11-29 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 08:26:48 -0500, Neal Becker wrote: > I don't want to change my ssh key that I use for many other purposes. What > is > the suggested method to generate a new key to be used only for fedora? Smooge did a detailed post on how to do this shortly after the announcement: h

Re: updating xcb-util to 0.3.8 in rawhide?

2011-11-28 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 23:38:14 +0100, Lars Seipel wrote: > Hi there, > > is it possible to update rawhide's xcb-util to the current version which was > released earlier this year? Normally the way to request this it to file a bug against the package. Have you already tried that? -- devel m

Re: Fedora clean up process seems to be seriously broken...

2011-11-22 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 11:05:37 -0600, Richard Shaw wrote: > To bring it to a more personal level, I have no idea if I've done or > proven myself enough to become a sponsor or not. If I am deficient in > an area, there's currently no formal feedback mechanism for me to know > in what areas I ne

Re: Fedora clean up process seems to be seriously broken...

2011-11-22 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 12:38:23 +, "\"Jóhann B. Guðmundsson\"" wrote: > > I think the only way to achieve something like this for maintainership > we need to drop the ownership module so either nobody owns a > package/component in the project or relevant SIG owns the package. We can alr

gdk-pixbuf being retired

2011-11-21 Thread Bruno Wolff III
I picked up gdk-pixbuf because freetennis supposedly depended on it but actually doesn't. (Though freetennis if also FTBFS for another reason so clearing the dependency isn't simple.) Though only thing that really depends on it is xosd-xmms and I have checked with Kevin about that and he will remov

Re: Fedora clean up process seems to be seriously broken...

2011-11-21 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 22:22:56 +, "\"Jóhann B. Guðmundsson\"" wrote: > > Well comes logically to me that at least the maintainer would be > stripped of those packages he is ignoring. That doesn't help. It is reasonable to orphan a package that isn't being adequately maintained, but remo

Re: Rethinking proventester and critpath

2011-11-21 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 10:32:06 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > That's about all the concrete thoughts / suggestions I can filter out of > the log. I don't remember which meeting I noted it at, but another idea is to weight proventester feedback higher (maybe count as +2 or -2) in the short te

Re: [Heads-Up][ABI Change] Boost has been upgraded to 1.48.0 on Rawhide

2011-11-21 Thread Bruno Wolff III
I talked to some of the active Wesnoth developers and they told me it (the BOOST_FOREACH problem affecting Wesnoth) is an upstream bug with a fix already. Can we get this fix cherry picked for rawhide? See the upstream ticket: https://svn.boost.org/trac/boost/ticket/6131 -- devel mailing list dev

Re: [Heads-Up][ABI Change] Boost has been upgraded to 1.48.0 on Rawhide

2011-11-20 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 11:16:32 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > I don't think it is directly related. It is odd that the include is getting > flagged rather than an actual use. That could be a boost - gcc interaction. I noticed that adding some extra includes that were u

Re: [Heads-Up][ABI Change] Boost has been upgraded to 1.48.0 on Rawhide

2011-11-20 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 18:13:14 +0100, Denis Arnaud wrote: > 2011/11/20 Bruno Wolff III > > > Is there any expected semantic change for using BOOST_FOREACH? > > I am having trouble rebuilding Wesnoth and get an error: > > foreach.hpp:6:17: error: 'boost::BOOST_F

Re: [Heads-Up][ABI Change] Boost has been upgraded to 1.48.0 on Rawhide

2011-11-20 Thread Bruno Wolff III
Is there any expected semantic change for using BOOST_FOREACH? I am having trouble rebuilding Wesnoth and get an error: foreach.hpp:6:17: error: 'boost::BOOST_FOREACH' has not been declared and foreach.hpp is: #ifndef FOREACH_HPP #define FOREACH_HPP #include #define foreach BOOST_FOREACH #endif

Re: boost soname bump

2011-11-20 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 08:05:34 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > It looks like there was a soname bump in boost yesterday. Boost affects > enough stuff, that there really should have been a heads up message posted to > the devel list about this. It looks like there may have been a

boost soname bump

2011-11-20 Thread Bruno Wolff III
It looks like there was a soname bump in boost yesterday. Boost affects enough stuff, that there really should have been a heads up message posted to the devel list about this. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Fesco membership policies

2011-11-14 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 16:15:05 +, Matthew Garrett wrote: > Something that was brought up at the last fesco meeting is that > fesco membership is currently restricted to members of the packaging > group. That's arguably overly restrictive - fesco is intended to be the > body with technic

Re: Why does git merge have so much trouble with Fedora package branches?

2011-11-10 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 12:38:16 -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > -- Although others have pointed out how to use git log and git > cherry-pick to achieve that... I find it faster to use git merge and just > remove the empty conflicts markers if I encounter this situation. Using git > log and th

Re: Nomination period for Fedora Board, FESCo, and FAmSCo elections closes Nov. 5

2011-11-05 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 08:16:57 -0700, Robyn Bergeron wrote: > > Full information about the elections, including the elections schedule, > and links to where one may nominate, can be seen here: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections This misses an important link. FESCO has their policy f

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 16 Final Release Declared GOLD!

2011-11-04 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 23:17:21 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > It'd be great if we can work with the anaconda team closely to try and > get involved all along the line in the UI rewrite stuff, and see if that > can reduce the pressure around release times - let's put that on the > table for

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