On 02/15/2013 02:32 PM, Jon Masters wrote:
Please see the following link for further details:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/Talks/ARMTechTalks
Today's talk is on debugging vexpress (Versatile Express) kernels
running under qemu models with gdb. It will simply cover
Always was done with yaboot. Do we know if OLPC will move to UEFI?
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Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:
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From: Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com
To: Development discussions related to Fedora
Hi everyone,
I would like to share the minutes from yesterday's Fedora ARM meeting.
In particular, those on devel@ might be interested in our desire to
discuss PA at FUDCon. At FUDCon, we will have a 24 node Calxeda
EnergyCore (highbank) server that will demonstrate various capabilities
of the
Hello,
This week's Fedora ARM status will take place today (Wednesday, Dec
12th) in #fedora-meeting-1 on Freenode. I will run the meeting with
Brendan as Paul is on PTO today. Please ping us on #fedora-arm with
additional topics on IRC also. I will be at the dentist soon, so Brendan
may start the
Hello,
This week's Fedora ARM status will take place today (Wednesday, Dec
12th) in #fedora-meeting-1 on Freenode. I will run the meeting as Paul
is out sick today. Please ping with additional topics on IRC also.
Times in various time zones (please let us know if these do not work on
an ongoing
On 12/09/2012 03:32 PM, Michael Scherer wrote:
snip
Having one repo and refusing commercial software are 2 different issues.
Really, they're not though. The problem is that stuff is shipped
in-distro and builds deps on core packages, and those packages are
revved in a symbiotic relationship
On 12/06/2012 10:38 AM, Michael Scherer wrote:
People are annoyed to go to different bugzilla to report bugs, people
are annoyed to go to different shops to shop for stuff ( as seen by the
success of amazon, or even itunes, etc ), so why would it make sense to
have a different way depending
On 12/06/2012 01:00 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Wed, 2012-12-05 at 22:25 -0600, Michael Ekstrand wrote:
On 12/05/2012 03:06 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
Matthew Miller (mat...@fedoraproject.org) said:
Three things:
1) Fedora is big enough that we have concrete situations where one size
On 12/07/2012 12:30 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Fri, Dec 07, 2012 at 10:40:13AM -0500, Jon Masters wrote:
We could draw them between Core and Extras!
:) Note that just because we got rid of Core doesn't mean that it was a
bad idea. Ubuntu even adopted a Core of their own a while back. Maybe
On 12/05/2012 02:39 PM, Peter Robinson wrote:
I can't make the meeting. It conflicts with the Board meeting.
Current items on the agenda:
1) Current Problem packages
2) F18 ARM VFAD - additional feedback, blockers?
3) Ownership of non-release blocking images (Beagleboard XM, etc)
Who
On 12/05/2012 04:06 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
Matthew Miller (mat...@fedoraproject.org) said:
Three things:
1) Fedora is big enough that we have concrete situations where one size
doesn't fit all. Puppet being broken on F17 (and probably F18 as well)
is a fine example of something
On 11/01/2012 11:08 AM, Orion Poplawski wrote:
- I built openmpi 1.6.3 in rawhide yesterday. This had an unexpected bump in
the libmpi_f90.so soname. I know this affects hdf5 and netcdf-fortran, both
my packages and I'll be rebuilding them later today (hopefully).
On that, I've made a
On 07/06/2012 02:32 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
pnasrat 'Paul Nasrat' pnas...@gmail.com
pinged
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On 05/13/2012 02:02 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
snip
From a purely practical perspective, the popularity of OS X as a
development platform means that we're likely to see a gradual increase
in the amount of code written to assume LLVM-specific functionality.
People are just going to have to
On 05/13/2012 01:21 AM, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote:
snip
Maybe we should draw more of a distinction between LLVM and clang, and
use ExclusiveArch: on the latter to whitelist only architectures we
feel comfortable supporting?
We could. Right now, for ARM (as an example), there is really
On 05/11/2012 07:39 PM, Brendan Conoboy wrote:
o jonmasters to track down the OMAP (Panda/Beagle) issue.
Right, but I'm also going to try to hunt down the futex issue and a few
other things...so we might end up going with an older kernel in the OMAP
images just for beta to get that out earlier
On 05/10/2012 04:56 AM, David Airlie wrote:
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From: Jon Masters j...@redhat.com
To: Development discussions related to Fedora
devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Cc: Michel Alexandre Salim sali...@fedoraproject.org
Sent: Wednesday, 9 May, 2012 10:57:30 PM
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Hi Folks,
Thanks for joining us today in our weekly meeting. Here are the minutes:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-05-09/fedora-meeting.2012-05-09-20.00.html
Jon.
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Folks,
The EMEA Fedora Ambassadors have a periodic meeting at the same time
that we do. So that we don't ever have confusion, we will henceforth
move all of our meetings to #fedora-meeting-1 at the same time.
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On 05/06/2012 02:29 AM, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote:
LLVM is becoming an increasingly integral part of our distribution
(with mesa now using it to build the LLVMpipe renderer, for example)
that I don't really feel comfortable maintaining it mostly by myself.
Thanks for the private email
On 05/09/2012 05:57 PM, Jon Masters wrote:
More broadly though, I feel that GCC is well represented in terms of
engineering knowledge but I'm *concerned* that we run the risk of
growing a dependence on LLVM that is more critical than the LLVMpipe
stuff. Before we can blink, we might need LLVM
Hi everyone,
A reminder that this week's ARM status meeting will take place tomorrow
(Wednesday), on #fedora-meeting. There will be no phone call. Please
reply to this email with any additional agenda items you want to add.
Times in various timezones (please let us know if these do not work):
Hi Folks,
Thanks for joining us today in our weekly meeting. Here are the minutes:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-05-02/fedora-meeting.2012-05-02-19.59.html
Jon.
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Hi everyone,
A reminder that this week's ARM status meeting will take place tomorrow
(Wednesday), on #fedora-meeting. There will be no phone call.
Times in various timezones:
PDT: 1pm
MDT: 2pm
CDT: 3pm
EDT: 4pm
UTC: 8pm
BST: 9pm
CST: 10pm
Also join #fedora-arm on Freenode for general ARM
On 04/24/2012 12:27 PM, Jon Masters wrote:
Let's have one of our weekly status calls tomorrow pm. I aim to send
these reminders out more regularly so that we can get in the habit. If
the times no longer work for those involved in the Fedora ARM project,
please do let us know asap. Sadly
On 04/24/2012 01:33 PM, Jerry James wrote:
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Jon Masters j...@redhat.com wrote:
Times in various timezones:
PDT: 2pm
CDT: 3pm
EDT: 4pm
UTC: 8pm
BST: 9pm
CST: 10pm
Shouldn't that be
PDT: 1pm
MDT: 2pm
Yes, as I said on IRC I was going to make a joke
Original Message
Subject: [fedora-arm] Weekly ARM status call - TOMORROW (Wed 2012/04/25)
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 12:27:23 -0400
From: Jon Masters j...@redhat.com
Organization: Red Hat, Inc.
To: a...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Hi everyone,
Let's have one of our weekly status
On 04/19/2012 05:36 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
Ok, I'll modify that section. Thanks for the feedback!
Matthew,
Could you add comments addressing the need for documentation and website
content around a promoted arch? And any of the other comments I made in
my previous reply that you would like
On 04/20/2012 04:30 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 04:22:38PM -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
On 04/19/2012 05:36 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
Ok, I'll modify that section. Thanks for the feedback!
Matthew,
Could you add comments addressing the need for documentation and website
Hi Matthew,
On 04/18/2012 09:54 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
Right now I don't think ARM's doing a great job of that [being part of
the Fedora community]. Your meetings happen on the phone and aren't
minuted.
I am sorry that you feel that way. I think it is important to add some
context to the
On 04/19/2012 01:22 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 12:42:58AM -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
Hi Matthew,
On 04/18/2012 09:54 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
Right now I don't think ARM's doing a great job of that [being part of
the Fedora community]. Your meetings happen
Hey guys,
Cutting this sub-thread off at the pass :)
I think it's obvious that we in the ARM project can do a better job at
engagement, cohesion, and we can learn and improve in many ways. I would
like to suggest that we steer this thread back toward the more abstract
question at hand: that of
On 03/26/2012 08:00 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
Which leads me to a rant about ARM. G RANT!! I didn't think I'd
ever love the BIOS, but compared to the alternatives (UEFI and a
million different ARM bootloaders) it's simple and effective.
There is some truth to that. Nobody is going
On 03/20/2012 06:51 PM, Brendan Conoboy wrote:
On 03/20/2012 03:33 PM, Jesse Keating wrote:
doing all of these things doesn't happen magically just because the
board/fesco grants that ARM is suddenly a primary arch. If we made arm a
primary arch tomorrow, you'd still have to solve all the
On 03/22/2012 03:38 PM, Chris Tyler wrote:
On Thu, 2012-03-22 at 12:10 -0600, Orion Poplawski wrote:
I started looking at:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/HowToQemu
VM starts okay in F16 with setsebool -P virt_use_execmem=on
But the image is a Fedora 12 system. Any updated
Hi Kevin,
Thanks for your message.
On 03/22/2012 11:21 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Peter Robinson wrote:
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 2:28 PM, drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote:
The only ones where this is possible right now are actually x86 based
tablets. Even Windows 8 wont help here as MS mandates
On 03/20/2012 11:52 AM, Peter Jones wrote:
In yesterday's FESCo meeting I told you I'd make a list of specific issues
I have with the current proposal for ARM as a primary archictecture. There
are some places where I think the current proposal fails to deal with some
necessary aspects of
Hello,
On 03/20/2012 12:37 PM, drago01 wrote:
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Brendan Conoboy b...@redhat.com wrote:
On 03/20/2012 09:21 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
That said, I considera cross-building environment for secondary arch to
be inevitable, which would at least help for the class
On 03/20/2012 12:56 PM, Brendan Conoboy wrote:
On 03/20/2012 09:50 AM, drago01 wrote:
I don't know about the details there but that does not sound like
unfixable to be.
I'd even say that fixing that is a prerequisite to allow secondary
archs that run on slow hardware to become primary.
On 03/20/2012 01:42 PM, Dave Jones wrote:
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 12:54:36PM -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
The hardware is way slower ... so we can just build on faster hardware
(x86_64). Which is the only sane way to do it.
Trying to build on ARM directly is kind of a gimmick but nothing
On Thu, 2012-01-05 at 11:18 -0600, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
El Thu, 05 Jan 2012 10:37:41 -0500
Tom Callaway tcall...@redhat.com escribió:
On 01/05/2012 09:40 AM, Richard Shaw wrote:
I just didn't know if there was any filtering going on for the
mass rebuild or if all packages, regardless of
On Thu, 2012-01-05 at 21:47 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
I guess you are referring an ordered rebuild, not a simple sequential
rebuild.
The latter would be mostly useless.
For bootstrapping, ideally there would be ordered rebuilds, but even any
mass rebuild assists more than having none at
On Thu, 2011-12-22 at 13:31 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Thu, 22.12.11 07:17, Neal Becker (ndbeck...@gmail.com) wrote:
I was reading about kmod on LWN. Sounds like it might be good for a future
fedora, to optimize boot time
http://www.politreco.com/2011/12/announce-kmod-1/
Folks,
Anyone interested in an or1ksim package for Fedora? If so, I could throw
something together based on upstream trunk. None of the current releases
(even the RC) are able to run the orpsoc model correctly with the latest
upstream kernel, due to the assumption of support for tap network
Hi Bastien,
Thanks for your help with this. I'm glad a fix is in upstream now.
On Tue, 2011-11-22 at 11:12 +, Bastien Nocera wrote:
On Mon, 2011-11-21 at 14:36 -0500, Jon Masters wrote:
Folks,
Can someone please push the update that I made (with permission) to
shared-mime-info? I'm
On Tue, 2011-11-22 at 15:37 -0500, Jon Masters wrote:
I believe any MP3 file containing a uits tag will be affected. This is
the Unique Identifier Technology Solution, which appears to be
required by a number of media distributors. Therefore, I believe (but
have not confirmed yet
Folks,
Can someone please push the update that I made (with permission) to
shared-mime-info? I'm getting jcm does not have commit access when I
try to make the F16 update. This fix is required to actually be able to
play many MP3 files (including all purchased from Amazon.com) on F16.
Tested
On Mon, 2011-11-14 at 13:19 -0500, Chris Tyler wrote:
The ARM Secondary Arch project[0] is working on an F15 release for the
existing armv5tel architecture as well as the new armv7hl architecture
(with hardfp ABI). This effort has been previously announced and is
ongoing. A number of minor
On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 13:54 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 11:46 -0400, Kaleb S. KEITHLEY wrote:
Grovelling around in the F15 xorg-server sources and reviewing the Xorg
log file on my F15 box, I see, with _modern hardware_ at least, that we
do have the monitor geometry
On Thu, 2011-10-06 at 16:20 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Thu, Oct 06, 2011 at 11:14:56AM -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
How about EDID as it exists today. Since you're able to so beautifully
explain what the pitfalls are, I'd assume you've raised this with the
VESA and asked
On Thu, 2011-10-06 at 12:12 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
On Thu, 2011-10-06 at 11:14 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 13:54 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
EDID does not reliably give you the size of the display.
How about EDID as it exists today. Since you're able to so
On Mon, 2011-10-03 at 12:56 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
More to the point, your DPI numbers would be per-output anyway, so
there's no picking a single point size preference, the same size in
pixels would be different sizes in millimeters on each output.
In fairness, for my dual head setup I
On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 19:13 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 4:06 AM, Jon Masters j...@redhat.com wrote:
On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 09:51 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
To participate, visit the following link:
http://scotland.proximity.on.ca/fedora-arm/f15hardfp/bootstrap
On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 09:51 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
To participate, visit the following link:
http://scotland.proximity.on.ca/fedora-arm/f15hardfp/bootstrap/rootfs_stage4_20110825/
Just a quick update that we've had mock builders running around the
clock and that, at last count we had
Folks,
We are hosting another one of our regular Fedora 15 hardfp Virtual
Fedora Activity Day today Friday August 26th 2011, at 14:00UTC (10:00
Eastern Daylight Time). The purpose of this session is to co-ordinate
the continued bootstrap of F15 hardfp (hardware floating point).
Previously, we
On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 09:51 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
To participate, visit the following link:
http://scotland.proximity.on.ca/fedora-arm/f15hardfp/bootstrap/rootfs_stage4_20110825/
Follow the instructions contained within the readme file to extract the
uboot, boot, and root archives
On Fri, 2011-07-29 at 10:57 +0200, drago01 wrote:
Well in gnome 3.2 (which should be out for F16) extensions will be
like firefox extensions i.e you go to extensions.gnome.org and click
install to install an extension.
Distro packaged extensions are frowned upon upstream.
So, just so I
Hello,
I'm traveling this week, so didn't make any specific plans to host the
VFAD earlier today. Sorry for not announcing that. Of course, there's no
reason to not build and contribute bits by joining us on #fedora-arm at
any time, and by following the instructions:
Folks,
We are hosting another one of our regular Fedora 15 hardfp Virtual
Fedora Activity Day today Friday July 15th, at 14:00UTC (10:00 Eastern
Daylight Time). The purpose of this session is to co-ordinate the
bootstrap of F15 hardfp (hardware floating point).
Last week, we succeeded in
On Fri, 2011-07-15 at 03:20 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/Fedora15_HardFP_Bootstrap
Please note that this has been updated since last week. It now includes
all of the information you need for stage3 (current). Further, there
is an additional wiki
On Sun, 2011-07-10 at 00:48 -0300, Itamar Reis Peixoto wrote:
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 12:45 AM, Jon Masters j...@redhat.com wrote:
On Fri, 2011-07-08 at 00:52 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
We are hosting another one of our regular Fedora 15 hardfp Virtual
Fedora Activity Day today Friday July
On Sat, 2011-07-09 at 23:32 -0400, Steve Dickson wrote:
On 07/08/2011 10:57 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
Or in other words: configuration via command line arguments or
environment variables sucks.
I disagree. It doesn't suck. It's the way UNIX and Linux have done this
for dozens of
On Sun, 2011-07-10 at 16:32 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 05:46:18AM -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
I disagree. It doesn't suck. It's the way UNIX and Linux have done this
for dozens of years, and it's the way countless sysadmins know and love.
Sucks might be true from
On Sun, 2011-07-10 at 21:59 +0200, drago01 wrote:
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Jon Masters jonat...@jonmasters.org wrote:
On Sat, 2011-07-09 at 23:32 -0400, Steve Dickson wrote:
On 07/08/2011 10:57 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
Or in other words: configuration via command line
On Sun, 2011-07-10 at 16:23 -0500, Matt Domsch wrote:
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 04:43:30PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Sat, Jul 09, 2011 at 11:45:33PM -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
* Fedora should (IMO) institute mandatory mass rebuilds. Either every
cycle, or every other cycle. I've
On Sun, 2011-07-10 at 22:44 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
It's certainly true that we could do more to identify ftbfs situations
earlier, but we've had mass rebuilds in most recent releases. Random
failures years down the line really aren't a realistic concern.
I can think of specific cases
On Fri, 2011-07-08 at 00:52 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
We are hosting another one of our regular Fedora 15 hardfp Virtual
Fedora Activity Day today Friday July 8th, at 14:00UTC (10:00 Eastern
Daylight Time). The purpose of this session is to co-ordinate the
bootstrap of F15 hardfp (hardware
[ removing extraneous copy of old Fedora devel list ]
On Fri, 2011-07-08 at 09:57 -0400, Steve Dickson wrote:
On 07/08/2011 08:23 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
I am pretty sure systemd-devel is the better place to discuss this. But
here are a few comments after reading throught the bug
Folks,
We are hosting another one of our regular Fedora 15 hardfp Virtual
Fedora Activity Day today Friday July 8th, at 14:00UTC (10:00 Eastern
Daylight Time). The purpose of this session is to co-ordinate the
bootstrap of F15 hardfp (hardware floating point). Going forward, the
proposal is that
Hi Folks,
Join us on Friday to celebrate July with another in our series of VFADs!
This is an awesome opportunity to participate in improving support for
ARM processors, and to learn about architecture bootstrap. Last week, we
successfully added a number of new packages to our bootstrap
On Wed, 2011-06-29 at 09:14 +0200, Nikola Pajkovsky wrote:
Refreshing news! What is pain in the ass is rhel6, because it doesn't
have qemu-system-arm. I will play around with rhel6 and qemu-system-arm.
Then I will try to build my packages for arm (if already aren't in). Is
there a list of
On Wed, 2011-06-22 at 00:36 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
We are hosting another Fedora 15 hardfp Virtual Fedora Activity Day
today, at 14:00UTC (10:00 Eastern Daylight Time). The purpose of this
session is to co-ordinate the bootstrap of F15 hardfp (hardware floating
point). Going forward
Hi Folks,
We are hosting another Fedora 15 hardfp Virtual Fedora Activity Day
today, at 14:00UTC (10:00 Eastern Daylight Time). The purpose of this
session is to co-ordinate the bootstrap of F15 hardfp (hardware floating
point). Going forward, the proposal is that these be on Fridays.
You can
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On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 04:51 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
We are hosting a Fedora 15 hardfp Virtual Fedora Activity Day today, at
14:00UTC (10:00 Eastern Daylight Time). The purpose of this session is
to co-ordinate the bootstrap of F15 hardfp (hardware floating point).
You
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Hi Folks,
We are hosting a Fedora 15 hardfp Virtual Fedora Activity Day today, at
14:00UTC (10:00 Eastern Daylight Time). The purpose of this session is
to co-ordinate the bootstrap of F15 hardfp (hardware floating point).
You can find a lot more detail here, along with all
On Sun, 2011-06-05 at 09:54 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 2:10 AM, Chris Tyler ch...@tylers.info wrote:
On Sat, 2011-06-04 at 20:53 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
[0] We're making a one time incompatible ABI switch in F-15 bringup to
the hard float ABI defined in section 6
On Sat, 2011-06-04 at 01:32 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
On Wed, 2011-06-01 at 12:25 +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
sooo... although the situation *right now* is that nobody in the
commercial world is the slightest bit interested in LSB because they
all do custom builds
Folks,
If you're interested in getting involved in the armv7hl[0] bringup,
please do subscribe to the ARM list and follow along/join us Fri for the
first of what will hopefully be several sessions dedicated to bootstrap
of F15 hardfp bits, followed by building the universe around those.
Jon.
On Sat, 2011-06-04 at 21:10 -0400, Chris Tyler wrote:
On Sat, 2011-06-04 at 20:53 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
[0] We're making a one time incompatible ABI switch in F-15 bringup to
the hard float ABI defined in section 6 of the ARM AAPCS (commonly
referred to as the ARM EABI
On Mon, 2011-03-28 at 14:47 -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote:
end, I gave up and used a system without NM or any of the other stuff,
That's the right answer: simply turn off NetworkManager and turn on the
network service, to prevent these new breakages from occurring. I do
that for all the
Hello,
So, back in the good old days, one could just type this:
ifconfig eth0 some_temp_ip up
Then it became necessary to:
/etc/init.d/NetworkManager stop
Then it became necessary to:
systemctl disable NetworkManager.service
Just to try to get the interface left alone.
But when the link
On Sat, 2011-03-26 at 12:10 +0100, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote:
On 03/26/2011 12:05 PM, Jon Masters wrote:
Then it became necessary to:
/etc/init.d/NetworkManager stop
Then it became necessary to:
systemctl disable NetworkManager.service
The last two are equivalent to service
On Sat, 2011-03-26 at 12:23 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
Nobody stops you to disable Network-Manager, DHCP, AVAHI and the other
noob-crap
and write your /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 manually as i do
everytime directly after the first boot and i guess the next 20 years
this will
On Sat, 2011-03-26 at 11:03 -0400, Neil Horman wrote:
IIRC you can set:
NM_CONTROLLED=no
in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ethX
Supposedly that will take ethX off the reservation and allow you to use the
ifup
script and ifconfig utility as you traditionally would.
I remain
On Sat, 2011-02-26 at 17:33 -0500, Lyos Gemini Norezel wrote:
On 02/23/2011 04:37 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
And I'd like to counter-counter-propose that we just stop using ANY kind of
subvolumes or volume management by default and just default to plain old
partitions. IMHO, LVM causes more
On Wed, 2011-02-23 at 07:15 -0500, Josh Boyer wrote:
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 10:25 PM, Jon Masters jonat...@jonmasters.org wrote:
On Tue, 2011-02-22 at 14:51 -0500, Josef Bacik wrote:
2) Fedora 16 ships without LVM as the volume manager and instead use
BTRFS's built in volume management
On Tue, 2011-02-22 at 14:51 -0500, Josef Bacik wrote:
2) Fedora 16 ships without LVM as the volume manager and instead use
BTRFS's built in volume management, again just for the default.
In my personal opinion, this is a poor design decision. Yes, BTRFS can
do a lot of volume-y things, and
On Tue, 2011-02-08 at 11:04 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Tue, 08.02.11 04:44, Braden McDaniel (bra...@endoframe.com) wrote:
I'm not sure whether 1 means it is or it isn't; but
system-config-services claims it's enabled.
s-c-s only covers sysv services. We probably should deprecate
On Tue, 2011-02-08 at 11:27 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Tue, 08.02.11 05:18, Jon Masters (jonat...@jonmasters.org) wrote:
On Tue, 2011-02-08 at 11:04 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Tue, 08.02.11 04:44, Braden McDaniel (bra...@endoframe.com) wrote:
I'm not sure
On Fri, 2011-02-04 at 03:09 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
On 2011/02/04 01:26 (GMT-0500) Jon Masters composed:
On Thu, 2011-02-03 at 18:04 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
I tried to net (minimal) install 40 hours ago and got no initrd and thus
no
boot. Culprit was less not installed. I made
On Thu, 2011-02-03 at 18:04 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
I tried to net (minimal) install 40 hours ago and got no initrd and thus no
boot. Culprit was less not installed. I made a working initrd via chroot and
yum install less. Still when done, ethX cannot be found, so I have no network
On Wed, 2011-01-19 at 22:30 +0530, narendr...@dell.com wrote:
The objective is to test the new naming scheme for onboard and PCI
add-in network interfaces as suggested by 'biosdevname' utility.
It would be great if you could participate and provide your feedback
which would help us flush
On Fri, 2011-01-14 at 16:51 -0600, Matt Domsch wrote:
It took my build system 96 hours to build all of rawhide (10k
packages) for both x86_64 and i386. Builders are 10 Dell PowerEdge
1955 servers, each with 2 sockets 3GHz Xeon 5160 CPUs (4 cores each),
8GB RAM. Builders running Fedora 14.
On Sat, 2011-01-15 at 19:54 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 04:49:37PM +0100, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
A slowdown by a factor of 4 is a high price to pay for the impact of
RemoveSUID. I'd rather pay at most 30%, and not a factor of 4.
That's the extreme corner case,
On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 20:12 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote:
On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 17:34 -0500, Andy Lawrence wrote:
Is there a package we can down-grade to get back up and running? Or
an update via Koji?
With the gnome-shell, gjs and gobject-introspection builds that are in
koji now,
On Wed, 2010-12-15 at 22:25 +0200, Ville Skyttä wrote:
Files marked as documentation must not cause additional dependencies that
aren't satisfied by the package itself or its dependency chain as it would be
if none of its files marked as documentation were included in the package.
Doesn't
On Wed, 2010-12-15 at 23:57 +0200, Ville Skyttä wrote:
On Wednesday 15 December 2010, Jon Masters wrote:
On Wed, 2010-12-15 at 22:25 +0200, Ville Skyttä wrote:
Files marked as documentation must not cause additional dependencies
that aren't satisfied by the package itself or its
On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 20:29 -0600, Matt Domsch wrote:
My goal isn't to make life difficult for everyone. My goal is to keep
the distribution in a form where it can actually build from the open
source we provide.
Thanks Matt. What you're doing is vitally important for the
distribution, since
On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 23:01 -0600, Matt Domsch wrote:
I trust module-init-tools will get resolved with an impending upstream
release. Not like that can go unfixed forever. :-)
Should be fixed before Wednesday (tomorrow). I have some fixes for
compressed modules too. Will let you know when
On Tue, 2010-11-30 at 16:29 -0600, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
Matt Domsch wrote:
Yes, your system, on new install, or if you delete
/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules and the HWADDR lines from
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-*, will then use the new names.
specifically,
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