Re: When to close CVE's

2023-01-21 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 04:47:05PM +, Gary Buhrmaster wrote: > On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 3:48 PM Richard Shaw wrote: > > > I think in practical terms that makes sense but our tools don't really help. > > I agree, and that seems to be an artifact of > the single Fedora component in RHBZ, which

Re: Improving Fedora boot time when libvirt is installed

2023-01-21 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 11:32:24AM -0800, Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 2023-01-19 09:48, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > The idea is that an application will put a dep on the > > specific libvirt-daemon-driver-XXX that its functionality > > requires. If Boxes requires storage APIs, then add a > >

Re: Automation of Fedora SCM requests

2023-01-18 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, Jan 18, 2023 at 12:36:35PM -0600, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote: > Hi Michal, > > On Wed, 2023-01-11 at 17:13 +0100, Michal Konecny wrote: > >  Hi everyone, > >   > >  all the remaining issues were solved and the bot is now processing > > tickets as it should. I will watch the SCM request

bodhi upgraded to 7.0.1

2023-01-16 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Hey folks, just a heads up that bodhi has been updated to 7.0.1 now. https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org See: https://github.com/fedora-infra/bodhi/releases for a full list of bugs fixed/enhancements. Note that this adds the concept of 'frozen' releases, which will: * show a warning / note for

bodhi upgraded to 7.0.1

2023-01-16 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Hey folks, just a heads up that bodhi has been updated to 7.0.1 now. https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org See: https://github.com/fedora-infra/bodhi/releases for a full list of bugs fixed/enhancements. Note that this adds the concept of 'frozen' releases, which will: * show a warning / note for

Re: HyperKitty: Thread tree broken?

2023-01-12 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, Jan 12, 2023 at 07:14:33PM +0100, Jun Aruga (he / him) wrote: > > > > 1. > > > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/Z2RR2OE5TAQH5CVJ5VB5T3R7OM5ULYPQ/#QZUTH6DSULKYBMGPPYNZMPX7YSYKOBTT > > > > 2. > > > >

Re: HyperKitty: Thread tree broken?

2023-01-12 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, Jan 12, 2023 at 11:41:20AM -0500, Stephen Smoogen wrote: > On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 at 11:34, Jun Aruga (he / him) > wrote: > > > I see one issue on HyperKitty on the Fedora project. > > > > Below is thread 1 and 2 for the actual thread: "RISC-V -- are we ready > > for more, and what do we

Re: F38 proposal: Shorter Shutdown Timer (System-Wide Change proposal)

2023-01-11 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 04:35:33PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > We have thousands of systemd services in Fedora. To "just add timeouts > to things that take too long" would mean updating them individually. > (Or maybe only some, but we don't really know which ones.) Sure,

Re: Schedule for Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2023-01-03)

2023-01-10 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 09:15:41PM -0500, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote: ...snip... > > Finally, another voting member commented, this time on the re-vote > ticket[1], again indicating that the reason for the revote is the > misdirection in the _FORTIFY_SOURCE proposal discussion. Just to set the

Re: F38 proposal: Shorter Shutdown Timer (System-Wide Change proposal)

2023-01-10 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 06:00:59PM -0600, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Tue, Jan 10 2023 at 03:19:10 PM -0800, Kevin Fenzi > wrote: > > Is there something wrong with that approach that I am not understanding? > > No, I don't think you're missing anything. That should work fin

Re: F38 proposal: Shorter Shutdown Timer (System-Wide Change proposal)

2023-01-10 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, Jan 09, 2023 at 08:45:43PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > The current default is mostly arbitrary. It was just selected as a nice round > value, in the spirit of "let's pick something large enough to be larger than > any > realistic process will ever need". > > I think

Re: TeXLive 2022 landing in rawhide today

2023-01-08 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sat, Jan 07, 2023 at 09:11:32AM -0700, Orion Poplawski wrote: > > Seems to be breaking LaTeXML's tests: > https://apps.fedoraproject.org/koschei/package/LaTeXML?collection=f38 > > Unfortunately koschei's query to see what else might be affected hits a > gateway timeout: > >

Re: F38 proposal: Rpmautospec by Default (System-Wide Change proposal)

2023-01-01 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 03:37:34PM -0500, Stephen Smoogen wrote: > On Sat, 31 Dec 2022 at 13:40, Kevin Kofler via devel < > > https://docs.pagure.org/fedora-infra.rpmautospec/autochangelog.html#changelog-entries-generated-from-commit-messages > > > > All in all a very complicated and error-prone

Re: Scripts to rebuild dependencies in copr

2022-12-21 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 09:15:10PM -0700, Orion Poplawski wrote: > I've been using an old review_pr.py script produced by the Fedora > Stewardship SIG to rebuild the depedencies of a package in COPR to test > changes/updates to packages. It's been incredibly useful. However, it > seems that the

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2022-12-19 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 05:47:52PM +, Barry Scott wrote: > > > > On 19 Dec 2022, at 17:40, Ben Cotton wrote: > > > > On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 12:36 PM Barry wrote: > >> > >> Why is pysvn on the list? I the pysvn maintainer and i am active. > >> I am also the upstream maintainer. > > > >

Re: Some reasons I really dislike buildroot overrides and would like us to get rid of them soon

2022-12-04 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sat, Dec 03, 2022 at 12:04:18PM +0100, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > On 02/12/2022 22:30, Adam Williamson wrote: > > 1. Packages that have been pushed stable since the last time a compose > > succeeded (for Rawhide that's a Rawhide compose, for Branched it's a > > Branched compose, for

Re: Need help with disappeared update from repository

2022-12-01 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, Dec 01, 2022 at 04:51:18PM +, Sérgio Basto wrote: > On Thu, 2022-12-01 at 13:21 +0800, yanq...@fedoraproject.org wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > It seems update fcitx5-qt-5.0.16-2.fc37 from [1] somehow did not make > > it to stable repository while other package in same update did. This >

Planned Outage - Updates / Reboots - 2022-11-30 21:00 UTC

2022-11-28 Thread Kevin Fenzi
There will be an outage starting at 2022-11-30 21:00 UTC which will last approximately 5 hours. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2022-11-30 21:00UTC' Reason for outage: We will be applying updates and

Planned Outage - Updates / Reboots - 2022-11-30 21:00 UTC

2022-11-28 Thread Kevin Fenzi
There will be an outage starting at 2022-11-30 21:00 UTC which will last approximately 5 hours. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2022-11-30 21:00UTC' Reason for outage: We will be applying updates and

Re: Direct to stable updates

2022-11-27 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sat, Nov 26, 2022 at 05:27:30PM -, Mattia Verga via devel wrote: > @kevin I've announced on Bodhi matrix channel that I was planning to draft > the new release, but since I received no response I've pushed out Bodhi 7.0.0. > > I have followed the SOP at [1] and bodhi-* RPMs are now

Re: Should the policy documents better reflect real package maintenance practice?

2022-11-27 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, Nov 25, 2022 at 12:20:10AM +, Gary Buhrmaster wrote: > On Thu, Nov 24, 2022 at 1:40 PM Miroslav Suchý wrote: > > > I have to make confession. I am breaking this guidelines too. With > > releasing of new version of Mock and fedora-license-data. The problem for > > me is that the

Re: Should the policy documents better reflect real package maintenance practice?

2022-11-24 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, Nov 24, 2022 at 01:42:20PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Thinking it over some more - I think Gordon's right that I hadn't > considered all the language - I think my personal opinion would be that > the policy should be adjusted to be less opinionated on this idea of > "introducing

Re: spin-kickstarts package

2022-11-24 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, Nov 23, 2022 at 09:33:48PM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > > Is there a reason we couldn't just automatically update the package > once we're in freeze so that it has what we're shipping? By the time > we're down to the wire for final freeze, we're not changing the > kickstarts that often.

Re: Orphaned a lot of (mostly) Go packages owned by @fpokorny

2022-11-23 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, Nov 23, 2022 at 05:44:01PM +, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > The mitigation/successor strategy is to have comaintainers for every > package. > > Unfortunately our tools enforce the notion of a "main admin" and > if that person leaves that role has to be given to another > comaintainer

spin-kickstarts package

2022-11-23 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Greetings everyone. So, we used to have a release requirement that we package up and release along side the release a spin-kickstarts rpm package with the current kickstarts used for that release. This resulted in a bunch of last minute scrambling and blockers, and even then, we often pushed

Re: Direct to stable updates

2022-11-18 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, Nov 18, 2022 at 08:10:56AM +, Mattia Verga via devel wrote: > Il 17/11/22 18:10, Adam Williamson ha scritto: > > On Wed, 2022-11-16 at 17:37 +, Mattia Verga via devel wrote: > >> Kevin, the PR for Bodhi is nearly finished, it will add support for > >> using the 'frozen' release

Re: koji down?

2022-11-16 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, Nov 16, 2022 at 11:37:43AM -0600, Richard Shaw wrote: > On Wed, Nov 16, 2022 at 11:32 AM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > Everything should be back up now... > > > > I'm watching it for a bit before I declare things are back fully to > > normal though. ;) >

Re: Direct to stable updates

2022-11-16 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, Nov 16, 2022 at 02:09:47PM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > Kevin Fenzi is currently a member of FESCo (see > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/) and has been in that role for > years. So pushing the blame off to "someone else" is not going to

Re: Direct to stable updates

2022-11-16 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, Nov 16, 2022 at 05:37:07PM +, Mattia Verga via devel wrote: > > Kevin, the PR for Bodhi is nearly finished, it will add support for > using the 'frozen' release state to avoid pausing the push cron job and > avoid direct pending to stable push of updates when the release is frozen.

Re: koji down?

2022-11-16 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Everything should be back up now... I'm watching it for a bit before I declare things are back fully to normal though. ;) Do note that mailing list threads aren't a great place to report outages. Please report them to the infrastructure ticket tracker: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/

Re: Direct to stable updates

2022-11-15 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 11:54:32PM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: ...snip... I think we are going to just have to agree to disagree here. I think we have had this discussion a number of times now and aren't going to convince the other. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Pull-request related question.

2022-11-14 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sat, Nov 12, 2022 at 08:29:17PM -, Sergey Mende wrote: > Hi, > during development of my own project I hit the bug in `gdb` that is already > fixed upstream but not backported to rawhide yet. > I did a backport and ready to submit a PR. What is the right way to proceed: > > a) just file a

Re: Direct to stable updates

2022-11-14 Thread Kevin Fenzi
For a few years I was keeping track of updates that caused big problems: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Updates_Lessons The orig "very bad" update was a dbus update that broke everything. In any case I have seen our current updates system working and blocking tons of harmfull updates over the

Re: Direct to stable updates

2022-11-10 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, Nov 10, 2022 at 05:16:44PM +, Mattia Verga via devel wrote: > Il 10/11/22 01:58, Kevin Kofler via devel ha scritto: > > Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > > >> Mattia Verga via devel wrote: > >>> with the current workflow, Bodhi doesn't know when a release is freezed. > >>> There is

Re: F37 proposal: Add -fno-omit-frame-pointer to default compilation flags (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-11-10 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, Nov 09, 2022 at 04:26:23AM +, Naheem Zaffar wrote: > On Tue, 8 Nov 2022, 19:22 Vitaly Zaitsev via devel, < > devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > > > On 08/11/2022 19:53, Naheem Zaffar wrote: > > > Has there been any consideration to turn on frame pointers for atleast > > > dev

Re: Help understanding Fedora CI failure wrt RPM Sequoia

2022-11-10 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, Nov 10, 2022 at 11:39:27AM +0200, Panu Matilainen wrote: > > So, overnight somebody updated the koji package in > https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/repos/rawhide/ to the current unsigned > rawhide build, which makes the issue go away. Nothing should have updated the koji package. The

Re: F38 proposal: MobilityPhoshImage (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-11-10 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, Nov 10, 2022 at 01:35:36AM -, Scott Anecito via devel wrote: > What is the driver for choosing Phosh over GNOME Shell? There's no choosing something over something else. This isn't a Fedora Mobility Edition, but rather a first look at a Phosh based setup. Phosh has been around a

Re: F38 proposal: MobilityPhoshImage (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-11-08 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, Nov 08, 2022 at 03:09:46PM -0500, Ben Cotton wrote: > On Tue, Nov 8, 2022 at 1:34 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > > Yeah, was going to try and work it out with them (which I have not yet > > done). Where's the best place to engage with them these days? > > I'd sta

Re: F38 proposal: MobilityPhoshImage (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-11-08 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, Nov 08, 2022 at 10:21:43AM -0500, Ben Cotton wrote: > On Tue, Nov 8, 2022 at 10:10 AM Ben Cotton wrote: > > > > Initial images are produced for x86_64 and aarch64 mobile devices > > using the Phosh desktop. > > Is the plan to add these images to an existing website or a new one? The new

Re: Fedora SCM requests on the weekend

2022-11-07 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, Nov 07, 2022 at 10:21:43AM +0100, Mikel Olasagasti wrote: > Hi Kevin, > > Hau idatzi du Kevin Fenzi (ke...@scrye.com) erabiltzaileak (2022 uzt. > 9, lr. (20:11)): > > > > On Fri, Jul 08, 2022 at 01:02:15PM -, Mukundan Ragavan wrote: > > > > On S

Re: Karma for OpenSSL needed

2022-11-03 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, Nov 03, 2022 at 12:51:28PM +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > Now who will be motivated enough to at least open the Koji ticket as > suggested in the other place of this thread? :D > > Actually, for my purposes, it would be much better if there was something > like `koji download-url --signed

Re: Karma for OpenSSL needed

2022-11-02 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, Nov 02, 2022 at 08:15:00PM +0200, Otto Liljalaakso wrote: > Vít Ondruch kirjoitti 2.11.2022 klo 16.18: > > > > Dne 01. 11. 22 v 18:59 Fabio Valentini napsal(a): > > > On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 6:53 PM Demi Marie Obenour > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Please push them out to testing

Re: Fwd: Your message to devel@lists.fedoraproject.org awaits moderator approval

2022-11-02 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, Nov 02, 2022 at 08:02:07AM -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: > U... Isn't it considered a good practice to CC maintainers of affected > packages? Should I have done it as BCC instead? You could do BCC instead, but then if there's some feedback that someone wants to send to everyone, you

Re: systemd 252 feature: SUPPORT_END in /etc/os-release

2022-11-01 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, Nov 01, 2022 at 07:02:33PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > See: > https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2022-October/048519.html > >Systemd will set the taint flag 'support-ended' if it detects that >the OS image is past its end-of-support date. This date is

Re: Karma for OpenSSL needed

2022-11-01 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, Nov 01, 2022 at 02:55:34PM -0700, Josh Stone wrote: > On 11/1/22 11:16 AM, Neal Gompa wrote: > > That said, the packages *are* signed in Koji, because as soon as it's > > submitted to Bodhi, the packages are signed in-place in Koji. > > Is that really in-place? Bodhi says these are

Re: F40 proposal: Porting Fedora to Modern C (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-10-26 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 10:23:40AM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek: > > > On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 10:05:52AM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: ...snip... > >> == How To Test == > > > > As discussed by others, this needs to explain how to opt-in for early > > testing, and

Re: [side tags] Undesired automatic side-tag removal happened - how to deal with it in the future?

2022-10-26 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 12:55:44PM +0200, Zdenek Dohnal wrote: > Koji devs forwarded me to releng pagure, so there is a new issue for this > https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11093 . So, it turns out that koji upstream added a 'inactivity' check. ie, no builds tagged in or out in a timeperiod. We

Re: [side tags] Undesired automatic side-tag removal happened - how to deal with it in the future?

2022-10-12 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, Oct 11, 2022 at 08:08:32AM -, Michael J Gruber wrote: > > Oh, also I forgot to mention... > > > > If your sidetag is deleted, you can just request a new one, tag the old > > builds back into it and be back in business. I realize that that could > > be anoying if you told people a

Re: stuck s390x builds in koji

2022-10-11 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, Oct 11, 2022 at 11:35:45AM +0200, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > On Tuesday, 11 October 2022 at 11:27, Dan Horák wrote: > > On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 11:18:12 +0200 > > Luna Jernberg wrote: > > > On 10/11/22, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski > > > wrote: > > > > Hi! > > > > It seems

Re: [side tags] Undesired automatic side-tag removal happened - how to deal with it in the future?

2022-10-10 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Oh, also I forgot to mention... If your sidetag is deleted, you can just request a new one, tag the old builds back into it and be back in business. I realize that that could be anoying if you told people a specific one and then had to make a new one, but it's not like those builds are lost.

Re: [side tags] Undesired automatic side-tag removal happened - how to deal with it in the future?

2022-10-10 Thread Kevin Fenzi
So, just to add some data... sidetags are cleaned up via a cron job that calls: /usr/sbin/koji-sidetag-cleanup --empty-delay=14 --old-delay=30 So, it should have only deleted it if it was empty after 14 days, but it looks like it deleted it with things tagged into it. ;( Would you be willing

Re: SRPM macros, EPEL, and side tags

2022-10-05 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, Oct 05, 2022 at 08:40:12PM -, Artur Frenszek-Iwicki wrote: > Hi all, > > some time ago I've built the Free Pascal Compiler [0] for EPEL9, > and recently I got the idea it might be good to do the same with > the Lazarus IDE [1]. Testing things locally with mock, > I realized that

Re: Replacing GNOME Disks with Blivet GUI in comps' admin-tools?

2022-10-05 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, Oct 05, 2022 at 02:22:52PM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > In going through the bugs against comps, I came across > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1971338 > > The "admin-tools" group in comps includes GNOME Disks, which is a > surprise for KDE Plasma users. We can swap it out for

aarch64 builders upgrade

2022-09-30 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Greetings. I thought I would let everyone know that I have moved all the buildvm-a64 instances from some older hardware (lenovo emags) to newer hardware (altra Mt. Snow). This should result in a noticable speed increase along with allowing us to increase density of vm's per host. If you notice

aarch64 builders upgrade

2022-09-30 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Greetings. I thought I would let everyone know that I have moved all the buildvm-a64 instances from some older hardware (lenovo emags) to newer hardware (altra Mt. Snow). This should result in a noticable speed increase along with allowing us to increase density of vm's per host. If you notice

Re: How do I "unstick" koji?

2022-09-28 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 10:10:34AM -0400, Steven A. Falco wrote: > On 9/28/22 09:59 AM, Stephen Smoogen wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, 28 Sept 2022 at 09:53, Steven A. Falco > > wrote: > > > > Yesterday, I had a build that failed.  The task ID is 92381483. > > >

Re: F39 proposal: Replace DNF with DNF5 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-09-26 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Sorry for the delay in my reply here. ;( Some questions: > * Release engineering: [https://pagure.io/releng/issues #Releng issue number] no releng ticket? :( releng depends on dnf4 for a LOT of scripts. We will need a lot of help moving those to dnf5 I am sure. A porting guide for the

Planned Outage - networking work - 2022-09-26 21:00 UTC and 2022-09-27 21:00 UTC

2022-09-25 Thread Kevin Fenzi
There will be an outage starting at 2022-09-26/2022-09-27 21:00 UTC, which will last approximately 4 hours on 2022-09-26 and 5 hours on 2022-09-27. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2022-09-26 21:00UTC' date

Planned Outage - networking work - 2022-09-26 21:00 UTC and 2022-09-27 21:00 UTC

2022-09-25 Thread Kevin Fenzi
There will be an outage starting at 2022-09-26/2022-09-27 21:00 UTC, which will last approximately 4 hours on 2022-09-26 and 5 hours on 2022-09-27. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2022-09-26 21:00UTC' date

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2022-09-20)

2022-09-21 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 02:47:21AM +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Miro Hrončok wrote: > >* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/JdkInTreeLibsAndStdclibStatic > > was submitted as an Fedora 37 update after it was deferred to Fedora > > 38. We need to decide what to do.

Re: Proposal: disable comps component in Bugzilla

2022-09-20 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, Sep 20, 2022 at 10:01:36AM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > comps, the system of XML files used to put packages into functional > groups is hosted on a Pagure repo[1] but also has a Bugzilla > component. In the interests of simplicity, I propose to disable the > comps component and use the

[olsaj...@gmail.com: Re: unannounced soname bump in libbpf]

2022-09-19 Thread Kevin Fenzi
14:36:13 +0200 > From: Jiri Olsa > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org, Kevin Fenzi > Cc: jo...@fedoraproject.org > Subject: Re: unannounced soname bump in libbpf > > On Sat, Sep 03, 2022 at 05:01:47PM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > Greetings. > > > > Seems

Re: Inactive packagers to be removed after the F37 release

2022-09-19 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, Sep 19, 2022 at 05:58:36PM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > Dne 16. 09. 22 v 19:03 Kevin Fenzi napsal(a): > > On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 10:03:35AM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > > Isn't peer review much better and easier solution over all? We could also > > >

Re: Fedora rawhide compose report: 20220917.n.0 changes

2022-09-17 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 11:15:40AM +, Fedora Rawhide Report wrote: > OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20220916.n.0 > NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20220917.n.0 On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 12:51:42PM +, Fedora Rawhide Report wrote: > OLD: Fedora-37-20220916.n.0 > NEW: Fedora-37-20220917.n.0 I'd like to note that

Re: Inactive packagers to be removed after the F37 release

2022-09-16 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 10:03:35AM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > Isn't peer review much better and easier solution over all? We could also > require signed commits I guess. I think it would slow things down quite a lot to require peer review of every commit. I'd personally like to avoid anything

Re: Inactive packagers to be removed after the F37 release

2022-09-16 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 10:29:17AM +0300, Alexander Bokovoy wrote: > > One thing I want to get properly implemented in SSSD in upcoming FIDO2 > support is to allow admins to filter out certain types of public SSH > keys associated with the user account. E.g. get a way for administrator > to say

Re: Inactive packagers to be removed after the F37 release

2022-09-15 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 04:34:08PM -0400, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > On 9/15/22 13:55, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 09:26:36AM +0300, Alexander Bokovoy wrote: > >> > >> Proven packagers seem to be a fair category to address. Also packagers > >&

Re: Inactive packagers to be removed after the F37 release

2022-09-15 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 11:54:13AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2022-09-15 at 10:55 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 09:26:36AM +0300, Alexander Bokovoy wrote: > > > > > > Proven packagers seem to be a fair category to address. Also

Re: Inactive packagers to be removed after the F37 release

2022-09-15 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 09:26:36AM +0300, Alexander Bokovoy wrote: > > Proven packagers seem to be a fair category to address. Also packagers > responsible for security-related bits of the distribution. Compilers? Well, as others noted in this thread, any packager has a lot of power. They can

Re: Inactive packagers to be removed after the F37 release

2022-09-14 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, Sep 14, 2022 at 05:47:46PM +0300, Alexander Bokovoy wrote: > On ke, 14 syys 2022, Stephen Smoogen wrote: > > On Wed, 14 Sept 2022 at 05:28, Alexander Bokovoy > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Sadly, it cannot be just 'any' certificate, it has to be issued by a > > > certificate authority that

Re: F38 proposal: Strong crypto settings: phase 3, forewarning 2/2 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-09-14 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, Sep 14, 2022 at 11:45:16AM +0200, Alexander Sosedkin wrote: > On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 7:35 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > > How about this: > > > > Drop the term 'jump scare' entirely. IMHO it just sounds bad. > > I'm open for proposals on the wording. =) W

Re: nspawn for rawhide?

2022-09-13 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 05:01:57PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Kevin Fenzi: > > > I just edited the f38 tag at Mon Aug 22 08:29:51 PM UTC 2022 to switch > > to nspawn. > > > > If you have detected a issue that seems like it might be related to this > >

Re: F38 proposal: Strong crypto settings: phase 3, forewarning 2/2 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-09-13 Thread Kevin Fenzi
How about this: Drop the term 'jump scare' entirely. IMHO it just sounds bad. Rework the change so it's basically planning on making this change in f38. Before f38 beta freeze, change owners/fesco looks at the state of things and decides if it can remain on in f38 and if not, it gets reverted

Re: SSL CERTIFICATE_VERIFY_FAILED?

2022-09-11 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sun, Sep 11, 2022 at 12:31:34PM -0500, Ron Olson wrote: > Hey all- > > When trying to do a `fedpkg update`, I got this response: > > ``` > Could not execute update: Could not generate update request: {"status": > "error", "errors": [{"location": "body", "name": "builds", "description": >

Re: Inactive packagers to be removed after the F37 release

2022-09-06 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, Sep 06, 2022 at 07:37:19PM +0200, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > On 06/09/2022 18:36, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > For an OTP generating app? I don't see why it would... > > No, for FIDO2 authentication. https://github.com/ellerh/softfido But not sure how usable it is. ;)

Re: Inactive packagers to be removed after the F37 release

2022-09-06 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, Sep 06, 2022 at 06:18:17PM +0200, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > On 06/09/2022 17:00, Gary Buhrmaster wrote: > > mobile device > > Requires proprietary Google services. For an OTP generating app? I don't see why it would... https://search.f-droid.org/?q=otp=en are all open source,

Re: Users with commit rights in src.fp.o but no more in packager group

2022-09-05 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, Sep 05, 2022 at 12:13:26PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 05. 09. 22 11:07, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > > > Apart from that, I don't think that the pseudo-users or group ownership > > would work. I saw a good amount of people giving the packages to some > > groups or pseudo-users, but in

[EPEL-devel] Re: Adding Package to side-tag

2022-09-04 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sat, Sep 03, 2022 at 08:32:47PM +1000, Frank Crawford wrote: > > The document I used > was  > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/package-maintainers/Package_Update_Guide/#multiple_packages > > It was the only place I could find that really talked about side-tags, > and wait-repo looks only

Re: Inactive packagers to be removed after the F37 release

2022-09-03 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sat, Sep 03, 2022 at 05:40:28PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Gadzooks, foiled by the old loophole bypass loophole defense again?! No one expects the... :) > No, seriously, I'm kinda assuming 'positive intent' here. It's not > meant to catch someone trying to 'avoid' the check. More

unannounced soname bump in libbpf

2022-09-03 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Greetings. Seems the latest rawhide build of libbpf bumps soname, breaking a number of dependent packages. ;( https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=2057060 According to the rawhide updates policy: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Updates_Policy/#_rawhide "When a

Re: Users with commit rights in src.fp.o but no more in packager group

2022-09-03 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sat, Sep 03, 2022 at 02:01:59PM +, Mattia Verga via devel wrote: > Il 26/08/22 07:17, David Tardon ha scritto: > > Hi, > > > > On Thu, 2022-08-25 at 11:04 +0300, Alexander Bokovoy wrote: > >> On to, 25 elo 2022, Miro Hrončok wrote: > >>> We use the python-maint pseudo-account to be the

Re: Updating asio in rawhide (and possibly F37) to 1.24.0

2022-09-03 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sat, Sep 03, 2022 at 08:51:13AM +0200, Julian Sikorski wrote: > Given the lack of response, I tried to push the update anyway given the low > risk of breakage due to it being header-only. Unfortunately, it turns out > that my side-tag is gone. Documentation states: > > Side tags are cleaned up

Re: Inactive packagers to be removed after the F37 release

2022-09-03 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sat, Sep 03, 2022 at 12:24:11PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > So, I have a probably-controversial idea for a follow-up on this. > > Even after this sweep, we have 141 proven packagers. That's a lot of > people who can build almost anything in Fedora. > > It should be possible to check

Re: Fedora rawhide compose report: 20220902.n.0 changes

2022-09-02 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, Sep 02, 2022 at 11:22:13AM +, Fedora Rawhide Report wrote: > OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20220901.n.0 > NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20220902.n.0 > > = SUMMARY = > Added images:0 > Dropped images: 7 > Added packages: 6 > Dropped packages:6 > Upgraded packages: 64 >

[EPEL-devel] Re: EPEL2RHEL - New Wording? - New Workflow?

2022-09-02 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, Sep 01, 2022 at 12:12:07PM -0500, Maxwell G via epel-devel wrote: > On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 Troy Dawson wrote: > > EPEL2RHEL is part of the RHEL 8 and 9 new package workflow. When a RHEL > > maintainer wants to add a package to RHEL 8 or 9 they start a "new package > > workflow".

Re: fedpkg update - Could not execute update: Could not generate update request: Invalid request

2022-08-30 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, Aug 30, 2022 at 05:50:08PM -0400, Chris wrote: > Guys, > > I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong, but for some reason I can no longer call > "fedpkg -- update" on any of the repositories (el8, el7, fc36, etc). > > It prompts me for the password and then goes through the routine that it's >

Re: Thoughts welcome: interface between automated test gating and the "critical path"

2022-08-29 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, Aug 29, 2022 at 03:50:02PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: ...snip... > > I can think of I guess four options: > > 1. Broaden the definition of the "critical path" somehow. We could just > write in that it includes FreeIPA functionality, I guess, though that > seems special purpose. We

[EPEL-devel] Re: Adding Package to side-tag

2022-08-29 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sun, Aug 28, 2022 at 07:38:31PM +1000, Frank Crawford wrote: > On Sat, 2022-08-27 at 14:58 -0500, Maxwell G via epel-devel wrote: > > n 22/08/27 04:03PM, Frank Crawford wrote: > > > While building two related new packages for EPEL9 with a > > > chainbuild, > > > the second one failed, however,

Re: Users with commit rights in src.fp.o but no more in packager group

2022-08-26 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 05:30:35PM +, Mattia Verga via devel wrote: > Following my comment in > https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2856#comment-812870 I wrote a simple > script to check how many users have commit rights onto some project in > src.fp.o, but aren't (anymore) members of the `packager`

Re: Packages in repo not signed: fedora-cisco-openh264 repository

2022-08-25 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Everything should be back to working. Try a 'dnf --refresh...' or a 'dnf clean all'. It's not fully clear yet some of the events. ;( The person who used to update this has moved to another group. The SOP (standard operating procedure) for doing this update was incorrect/out of

Re: F37 side tag after branching point

2022-08-24 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Just to chime in from a releng perspective here... IMHO you should do builds for f38 now also (either by making a side tag and bootstrapping them just like was done for f37, or tagging f37 builds you need into the f38 sidetag). While it's technically possible to push the f37 builds into

Re: Fedora rawhide compose report: 20220823.n.0 changes

2022-08-23 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 11:07:26AM +, Fedora Rawhide Report wrote: > OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20220822.n.0 > NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20220823.n.0 ...snip... > = DROPPED IMAGES = > Image: Kinoite dvd-ostree aarch64 > Path: >

Re: gsl soversion bump

2022-08-22 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 09:23:51AM +0900, Mamoru TASAKA wrote: > Elliott Sales de Andrade wrote on 2022/08/23 5:54: > > On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 12:08 PM Susi Lehtola > > wrote: > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > gsl will be updated from version 2.6 to 2.7.1 which changes the > > > soversion

Re: nspawn for rawhide?

2022-08-22 Thread Kevin Fenzi
I just edited the f38 tag at Mon Aug 22 08:29:51 PM UTC 2022 to switch to nspawn. If you have detected a issue that seems like it might be related to this change, please file a releng ticket and we will dig into it. Thanks, kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: nspawn for rawhide?

2022-08-20 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sat, Aug 20, 2022 at 11:18:14PM -0400, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2022-08-19 at 09:46 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > > Since everyone seems postivie on this, I'll look at switching it on > > monday and see what breaks. > > Does this apply just to package bu

Re: nspawn for rawhide?

2022-08-19 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 04:50:07PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Stephen Smoogen: > > > On Fri, 19 Aug 2022 at 05:44, Florian Weimer wrote: > > > > * Kevin Fenzi: > > > > > Greetings everyone. > > > > > > Many years ago mock intr

nspawn for rawhide?

2022-08-18 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Greetings everyone. Many years ago mock introduced and then made default it's isolation to use systemd-nspawn instead of chroot. Shortly after the nspawn isolation was added, it was used in fedoraproject koji builds, but there were issues and since then the fedoraproject koji has defaulted to

Re: PSA: koji armv7hl builders locking up

2022-08-09 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, Aug 09, 2022 at 09:14:17AM -0400, Steve Dickson wrote: > > > On 8/7/22 3:49 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > Or just wait... I have been checking them a few times a day and > > rebooting any that are locked up. > How long do we have to wait? [1] has been stuck since >

Re: fedora-create-review error message

2022-08-08 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sun, Aug 07, 2022 at 08:27:19PM -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: > I'm working on a package review for libphidget22 (rename of libphidget), > but after typing in my bugzilla credentials I get the following: > > The method 'Bug.get' is not supported without using API keys and the the >

Re: PSA: koji armv7hl builders locking up

2022-08-07 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sun, Aug 07, 2022 at 12:10:44PM +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote: > Hi all, > > TL;DR: It seems like armv7hl koji builders are locking up, most often > when running dnf to install the buildroot or to install dependencies. Yeah. ;( > I've seen many people getting hit by this issue: >

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