Re: New maintainer for lirc/Jarod Wilson's packages

2013-10-08 Thread Liang Suilong
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On Oct 2, 2013 1:50 AM, Till Maas opensou...@till.name wrote:

 Hi,

 Jarod Wilson, the current lirc maintainer, announced that he wants
 someone else to maintain lirc due to lack of time/interest[0]. Probably
 his other four packages need a new maintainer as, well[1]:

 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/users/packages/jwilson?acls=owner

 cx18-firmware -- Firmware for Conexant cx23418-based video capture
 devices
 libcrystalhd -- Broadcom Crystal HD device interface library
 lirc -- The Linux Infrared Remote Control package
 rinputd -- A server for receiving input events over the network
 wacomexpresskeys -- Wacom ExpressKeys and Touch Strips configuration
 utility

 Please respond here, if you want to take a package over including your
 FAS name and I will transfer the package if Jarod agrees.

 Regards
 Till

 [0] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=881976#c14
 [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=881976#c15
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Re: Fedora 18 and new version of Gnome (3.7.x)

2013-03-05 Thread Liang Suilong
No.

Please upgrade to Fedora 19.

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On Mar 5, 2013 7:29 PM, Dario Lesca d.le...@solinos.it wrote:

 There is some way to test new version of gnome on Fedora 18?
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Re: Obsolete packages still included in Fedora 19 development

2013-02-23 Thread Liang Suilong
 I have retired fcitx-keyboard.

But Denis Arnaud cleaned up all code for fcitx(1). I think it should be
wrong. I have reverted the code back to git repo just now.  Fcitx is still
fine and is widely used in CJK community.

1.
http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/fcitx.git/commit/?id=c75a157fb353a2ace2ea7d9db13a2229fa1cd647

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On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Josh Boyer jwbo...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Apparently, there are obsolete packages still in Rawhide (and have even
  been rebuilt for the mass-rebuild, albeit not all of them). Obsolete
  here really means they are obsoleted (=replaced!) by some other package.
 
  Whoever may be responsible for this, please notice that there is a HOWTO
  about removing packages from the distribution properly:
  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life
 
  Obsolete ('module-init-tools', 'i686', '0', '3.16', '7.fc19')

 Hm.  I'll look at that one tomorrow.  Should probably be handled by
 kmod.

  Obsolete ('rt61pci-firmware', 'noarch', '0', '1.2', '10.fc18')
  Obsolete ('rt73usb-firmware', 'noarch', '0', '1.8', '10.fc18')

 Those two should be cleared up with tomorrow's rawhide.

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Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Replace MySQL with MariaDB

2013-02-11 Thread Liang Suilong
Thanks for all developers' great work. Here I have two questions about
cluster.

MariaDB stays in Fedora repository now, however, Galera Cluster does not
contain in MariaDB. MariaDB with Galera Cluster is marked as stable. Is
there any plan to enable Galera Cluster feature.

NDBCluster Engine was dropped in Fedora since MySQL 5.1.43. Now MariaDB has
replaced MySQL. Could we also change MySQL package too? Re-enable
NDBCluster? I know MySQL Cluster has different source tarball. There is a
lot of difficulties. Will official MySQL developers help communities? I
hope so.

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Remi Collet wrote:

 Le 09/02/2013 19:08, Alfredo Kojima a écrit :
 Whenever we need to use a 3rd party lib that no distribution ships,
 we're stuck thinking whether it's better to ship it ourselves or just
 leave out everything, forcing users and packagers to fetch them
 externally. Can you shed some light?

(quoting the quote there because the original message is not available in
Gmane)

Just require the external library and distros WILL ship it. :-)

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Needing a packager to review fcitx-related pacakges

2012-04-24 Thread Liang Suilong
Hi, all.

I am a Fedora paackger. I have submited a series of fcitx-related packages,
and I am waiting for review. I tried to ask Robin Lee for help, who is my
friend and another Fedora packager. He is too busy for his great job. I
need another packager to review these pacakges.

Here is list of fcitx-related pacakges.

fcitx-table-extra
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=800731

fcitx-chewing
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=801053

fcitx-cloudpinyin
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=801058

fcitx-fbterm
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=801059

kcm-fcitx
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=801073

fcitx-libpinyin
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=801077

fcitx-ui-light
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=801064

fcitx-keyboard
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=801062

Fcitx is an light-weight input method framework, and it is under rapid
development. I will upstream to the latest one. In updates-testing
repository, fcitx has updated to the latest 4.2.2.
I will package more components of fcitx.

Thank you for your help.


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Anaconda forced to create a BIOS boot partition, but not boot on Lenovo S205

2011-09-26 Thread Liang Suilong
I bought  a new notebook for my jobs, Lenovo IdeaPad S205 (AMD E-450 APU),
building in MeeGo modified by Linpus. There is no BIOS in it, just using
UEFI. And there is no BIOS compatibility mode. So I must use EFI GRUB. As we
knew, Fedora 15 LiveUSB can not be booted on S205. There is a bug on Lenovo
S205. http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=262907

I try to install Fedora 16 Beta RC2. I know there is many bugs before Final
GA. Luckily, the installation process runs smothly. After rebooting my
machine, UEFI can not load boot loader on HDD, skipping HDD to boot USB or
PXE. And then, I found Anaconda must create a BIOS boot partition that size
is about 1MB and an FAT partition for EFI system is following. Later, I try
to install Ubuntu 11.10 Beta 2. Their grub2 can support UEFI and GPT
partition table normally. However, BIOS boot partition does not appear in
Ubuntu installer. I make sure that Fedora 16 choose GPT for me. I am just
allowed to create primary partition on my HDD.

I could not assure whether this is a bug on Anaconda or GRUB 2. Maybe I
should file a bug report on Bugzilla. But I do not understand why Anaconda
need to create a BIOS boot partition on UEFI-only system. This is my most
important question. I do do not really get accustomed to using Ubuntu. I
love Fedora very much.

I just hope I can get replies soon.

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Re: Anaconda forced to create a BIOS boot partition, but not boot on Lenovo S205

2011-09-26 Thread Liang Suilong
OK. Thank you, David.

My Desktop is used for productive environment. I do not want to reinstall OS
now. And I do not restore the logs before. So I want to do it after Fedora 6
Beta releases.

Maybe we should look for another UEFI-only system to test it.

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On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 12:17 PM, David Lehman dleh...@redhat.com wrote:

 On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 10:30 +0800, Liang Suilong wrote:
  I bought  a new notebook for my jobs, Lenovo IdeaPad S205 (AMD E-450
  APU), building in MeeGo modified by Linpus. There is no BIOS in it,
  just using UEFI. And there is no BIOS compatibility mode. So I must
  use EFI GRUB. As we knew, Fedora 15 LiveUSB can not be booted on S205.
  There is a bug on Lenovo
  S205. http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=262907
 
 
  I try to install Fedora 16 Beta RC2. I know there is many bugs before
  Final GA. Luckily, the installation process runs smothly. After
  rebooting my machine, UEFI can not load boot loader on HDD, skipping
  HDD to boot USB or PXE. And then, I found Anaconda must create a BIOS
  boot partition that size is about 1MB and an FAT partition for EFI

 If anaconda says you need a BIOS boot partition then anaconda believes
 your system is a BIOS system -- not EFI. You should open a bug report
 and include the following log files from within the installer's runtime
 environment:

  /tmp/anaconda.log
  /tmp/syslog
  /tmp/program.log
  /tmp/storage.log

 Thanks.

   system is following. Later, I try to install Ubuntu 11.10 Beta 2.
   Their grub2 can support UEFI and GPT partition table normally.
  However, BIOS boot partition does not appear in Ubuntu installer. I
  make sure that Fedora 16 choose GPT for me. I am just allowed to
  create primary partition on my HDD.
 
 
  I could not assure whether this is a bug on Anaconda or GRUB 2. Maybe
  I should file a bug report on Bugzilla. But I do not understand why
  Anaconda need to create a BIOS boot partition on UEFI-only system.
  This is my most important question. I do do not really get accustomed
  to using Ubuntu. I love Fedora very much.
 
 
  I just hope I can get replies soon.
 
 
  Liang Suilong
 
 
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Re: Packages that will be orphaned

2011-06-27 Thread Liang Suilong
Toshio, I wan to take fcitx.

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On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 3:10 AM, Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 04:19:51PM +0800, Robin 'cheese' Lee wrote:
  I can take kbibtex.
 
 Done.

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File Gtk2-Unique-0.05.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by liangsuilong

2011-06-22 Thread Liang Suilong
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Gtk2-Unique:

0beb552933b765a017588563a71af123  Gtk2-Unique-0.05.tar.gz
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[perl-Gtk2-Unique/f14] Initial Upload

2011-06-22 Thread Liang Suilong
Summary of changes:

  554af88... Initial Upload (*)

(*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent
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Systemd Status

2011-03-24 Thread Liang Suilong
Fedora 15 switches to systemd as default init system. The developer still
works for coding and fixing the bugs. We should appreciate that developers
give us such a fast init system to improve boot time. However we do not know
what it changes from old version to new one. The changelog has just one
sentence. New upstream released. I think I need to know What a new feature
is in a new version. The homepage of systemd does not refer to changelogs.
Thank you!

Since Kernel 2.6.38 was released, autogroup schedule patch has been merged
into mainline kernel. I rememberd Lennert Poettering argued on autogroup
schedule with Linus Torvalds. The patch is just working with processes from
TTY console. Lennert seemed to tell us the best way was that init system
provided autogroup schedule. Now systemd is able to give every service,
every user and every user session own cgroup in the CPU hierarchy. How far
is autogroup schedule in systemd from us? I can not hear any news about it.
I know this is not easy job because every process has its own property. But
I hope it is coming soon and really makes our desktop more smooth.
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Re: Fedora 15, new and exciting plans

2010-11-14 Thread Liang Suilong
Return to GRUB2 topic, I wish that GRUB2 landed in Anaconda and become an
option for user. Some Linux fans install two Linux distros, one is rpm-based
distro, another is deb-based distro. Most of deb-based distros has moved to
GRUB2. however, rpm-based distros still stays at GRUB legacy. I can feel
there are some problems on compatibility.

Does anyone know something about GRUB2 on mapper devices? Half a year ago, I
tried to install Debian on my Intel RAID0 but failed. At that time, Debian
installer does not support that users directly install GRUB2. You need extra
steps to do it manually. I think  the maintainers should consider it and
find out the best solution for users.

The other topic is about Xen. As we know, Xen Dom0 pv_ops are merged into
the upstream kernel since 2.6.37. Fedora 15 will use kernel-2.6.38. Should
community bring Xen Dom0 to Fedora 15 since Fedora 8 though Red Hat does no
longer support Xen? Because Xen Dom0 pv_ops is a part of upstream kernel,
Debian has a plan to drop specified kernel for Xen and directly support it
in generic kernel. Does Fedora has some plans to do it? I know Xen is still
maintained by myong in Fedora.

On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn 
denni...@conversis.de wrote:

 On 11/14/2010 12:41 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
  On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 06:26:48PM +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
  *DE could consider switching the default to use EXT4 directly without
  LVM. [1]
  1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NoDefaultLVM
 
  The Detailed Description seems contradictory:
 
  | LVM provides very little benefit for most Fedora users, at the cost of
  | performance and complexity:
  |
  | * Certain filesystem features (ext3 barriers) are unavailable when run
  |   on top of LVM.
 
  Isn't this just a bug which should be fixed?  (I actually thought this
  had been fixed already)
 
  | * Software RAID performance is greatly reduced when layered on LVM.
 
  But the stated task is to get rid of LVM except for experts in
  storage administration (from the next section of the same document).
  Who will presumably be the only ones wanting Software RAID.  The
  non-experts won't know anything about Software RAID, so they won't be
  affected by this performance problem with LVM.

 Can someone point to specific details about this? I did some benchmarking a
 while ago of raid-1 vs. raid-5, raid-1 plain vs. raid-1 with lvm, etc. and
 LVM didn't really show up as a performance issue at all.

  | * LVM partitions are not automatically assembled by the desktop
 systems.
 
  I'm not sure what this one means.  assembled as in what happens when
  you spread a VG over multiple block devices?
 
  Anyway, I think LVM is jolly useful:

 I've used plain partitions for a long time because lvm always looked weird
 to me but then I looked into it and nowadays I don't want to live without
 it. The ability to have the logical partitioning indepedent of the physical
 storage is a must-have for me.

  - You can expand the root filesystem (eg. into spare space or
  across block devices).
 
  - You can live pvmove filesystems from one device to another.

 That one actually saved my ass once on a 48 disk 30TB storage system
 because the controller was acting up.

  It may be that the tooling is not there to make these features
  available for non-experts, but that's a problem with lack of tools,
  not with LVM.  Partition tables are horrible and inflexible in
  comparison to LVM.
 
  Can we at the very least have some numbers backing up the supposed
  performance problems?

 Yeah, in my benchmarking I couldn't really confirm this so if there is a
 problem I'd like to see some specifics too.

 Regards,
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Re: Ubuntu 10.10's installer looks rather nice

2010-10-11 Thread Liang Suilong
I think anaconda is better than ubuntu installer.

Ubuntu installer does not support LVM and RAID. I need these features.

Anaconda does not easily support upgrading from internet. It is quite
regretful.

On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 12:14 AM, John Reiser jrei...@bitwagon.com wrote:

 On 10/11/2010 03:41 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:

  Some of the things [Ubuntu 10.10 installer] does which are IMHO better:
 
   - starts disk formatting / copying / installing in parallel
 with asking user questions
 
   - downloads updates in parallel too

 What was the wall-clock duration from Go! to done?
 Should be about 140 seconds for a 32X CD-ROM: (700MB / 5MB/s).
 {Fetch_from_media_or_download, and uncompress_package_to_pieces_in_RAMfs}
 parallelizes almost perfectly with package install, even with only one CPU.

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Re: Fedora backports repo? (Was Re: PostgreSQL 9 for F14?)

2010-09-21 Thread Liang Suilong
If someone has enough interest in backporting something from a newer
release, we can set up a personal repo on the  repos.fedorapeople.org. Just
like firefox4 and yum-rawhide repo.

Maybe we wait for Copr. Seth Vidal is working on it. We can easily set up
and manage a backport or testing repo on Copr.

But I have another question. As we know, Fedora is a fast-upgrade Linux
distribution. Many new features will be added in every release. If we
backport the most desirable features, how should we attract users to upgrade
to the latest one? Do we hope that Fedora becomes a rolling upgrade
distribution?

On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 11:22 PM, Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote:

 On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 10:59:06 -0400,
   Brandon Lozza bran...@pwnage.ca wrote:
  However, if for example Microsoft had a similar system and did package
  software for it. Their users would be up in arms for the latest
  firefox too and Microsoft wouldn't keep them on an old firefox
  version. Where is the logic in NOT having the latest software as long
  as it doesn't break file format compatibility? On windows the user can

 Unexpectedly changing the UI is also bad.

  Look at openSUSE, GCC 4.5, came out before F13, no banning of LTO. If
  you want something better than stable for KDE you can one click
  install the factory KDE repo. You can one click install the trunk repo
  too. They even have two Chromium branches available for single click
  install (version 6 and 7). Perhaps a single click or easy method of
  installing a yum repo could be invented that is similar to the one in
  openSUSE. That would be a good start.

 Alternate repos are possible, but take work. Fedora doesn't have spare
 capacity to be doing this sort of thing right now. If you want to make it
 happen, you can by leading and working on a project to do that. As long
 as you are willing to work and can get a at least a few like minded
 volunteers also willing to work you should have at least some success.

 People here aren't against having a way to install alternate versions of
 packagers per se, but are noting that there is a significant amount of
 work needed. And many of us think there are better ways to be spending
 our limited time helping Fedora. But if it is a high priority for other
 people willing to do the work, it's something that could be done.
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Re: Some questions about on Fedora

2010-08-08 Thread Liang Suilong
Thank you, Chen Lei and Remi.

I found MySQL Workbench for Linux has an bug. The bug seems to come from
scintilla. I typed some CJK words in SQL Editor of MySQL Workbench. It would
show the garbled codes and incorrect words. The bug does not appears on
Fedora, but also on any other Linux distros, including Debian and Ubuntu.
However, Windows version has not this problem. Should we report this bug to
MySQL Workbench's and scintilla's developers?

I do not think MySQL Connector C++ is a problem. Before we need to upgrade
mysql-workbench, the packager can upgrade mysql-connector-c++. It needs more
time to do for it than other packages. But the problem should not stop our
steps.

About MySQL Cluster, I found another distributions like openSUSE and Ubuntu
would bundle NDB engine and normal mysql-server. If we install
mysql-cluster-server, then the system will replace mysql-server. I do not
think this is a good method. Mandriva provides an independent packages for
mysql-cluster. It just contains NDB engine and some init script. As I see,
MySQL Cluster is an independent component. It should separate from
mysql-server.

Should I invite mysql's packager tgl to get into this topic?

Liang Suilong

On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Chen Lei supercyp...@gmail.com wrote:

 2010/8/8 Remi Collet fed...@famillecollet.com:
  Le 07/08/2010 19:17, Liang Suilong a écrit :
 
  The first one, as we know, mysql-gui-tools has retired since Fedora 13
  because of many bugs. MySQL Workbench will take the place of
  mysql-gui-tools. Now MySQL Workbench 5.2.26 GA released. Could review
  request continue? The last comments said that mysql-workbench should
  remove two bulbed libraries. Is it OK? And Remi has packaged
  mysql-workbench on his personal repo. I hope this tool will get into
  Fedora repo soon.
 
  There is 2 packaging issues with the actual package on my repo.
 
  1/ bundle scintilla / silvercity.
 
  Scintilla upstream doesn't take care of ABI and only build a static
  library (no shared lib, no soname management).
 
  Silvercity use (and extends) a patched version of scintilla.
 
  So, I think for this 2 libraries, using the bundled version is the
  solution. There is already some app, in the fedora repo which use a
  static version of scintilla.
 
 
  2/ MySQL Connector C++
 
  I also have a RPM ready for this library, but Workbench doesn't use a
  stable version, but a bazaar snapshot
 
  818 for 5.2.22
  819 for 5.2.24
  888 for 5.2.26
 
  I think this is really difficult to maintain (specially if other apps
  also need this lib).
 
 
  The spec files are available on :
 
 http://github.com/remicollet/remirepo/tree/master/mysql-connector-c%2B%2B/
  http://github.com/remicollet/remirepo/tree/master/mysql-workbench/
 
  If someone want to care of this reviews, and if ausil agree, I will
  submit them.
 
 
  Regards.
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 I can help to review mysql-connector-c and Silvercity, howerver we may
 need a approve from FESCo for bundling scintilla in silvercity.

 Regards,
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Re: Firefox 4 for Fedora 14?

2010-07-29 Thread Liang Suilong
So will Chromium get into the third-party repos like RPM Fusion? RPM Fusion
has ffmpeg packages.

The problem is that RPM Fusion needs much more time and more resources  to
build such a big package.

On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 4:58 AM, Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.comwrote:

 On 07/28/2010 04:47 PM, Conan Kudo (ニール・ゴンパ) wrote:
  On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 2:16 PM, drago01 drag...@gmail.com
  mailto:drag...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
  No disagreement here ... in fact this is a not really a baby step
  but have something usable and start from there which makes a lot of
  sense.
 
 
  As much as I want Chromium to be in Fedora, I don't want it in the
  repository if it is going to have crippled HTML5 support.

 To be fair, Chromium uses ffmpeg for its HTML5. If you have ffmpeg
 installed (with my Chromium builds), then you get HTML5 support. If you
 don't, well, you don't. Chromium isn't crippled. Fedora just can't
 include ffmpeg for obvious reasons, and Chromium has chosen not to use
 the native libv8 code.

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Re: coprs and personal repos: [Was: Re: Firefox 4 for Fedora 14?]

2010-07-29 Thread Liang Suilong
It looks that copr will come soon. I have a question about it.

Could we add some dependencies from other copr repo? Fedora official repo
sometimes could not offer the latest one but some packages need them.

On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 4:14 AM, seth vidal skvi...@fedoraproject.orgwrote:

 On Wed, 2010-07-28 at 15:10 -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
   Item 4 is the main point that has been the big ticket item that things
   like Canonical's PPAs have hit.
 
  They also hit the Staples Easy Button about 1000 times.  If there's a
  case to be made that this should be easy to do, then we should add
  tolling to common/Makefile to:
 
  1) make an srpm
 check

  2) build it as a scratch build in koji
 check

  3) automatically download the built packages
 check

 3.5) Sign the pkgs with your (or someone's) gpg key
   not-so-check

  4) scp them to your fedorapeople account

unchecked

  5) run createrepo remotely on the fp account

createrepo is not fp, on purpose, this could be changed - but it's
 better to run it locally, if only b/c of whatever arbitrary arguments
 you may want to add to it - not to mention the memory constraints.

  6) generate a yum .repo file for the repo and print out a link to it or
  something

sure. - though we'd be better off generating an rpm which contains
 the .repo file - so people could 'install' the repositories in the
 strictest sense.

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Re: 4 Remaining OPEN F13Blocker bugs

2010-05-06 Thread Liang Suilong
James,

These day I find nouveau kms can work corectly. After booting kernel and
loading drm, then the monitor turns to sleep mode and leads to an all black.
But I look for bugzilla and do not find out the similar bug report.

Here is my HW:
http://www.smolts.org/client/show_all/pub_2cfd8066-d0ed-4131-bb9e-04bbdcc0c7bd

I have tested kernel-2.6.33.3-84.fc13.x86_64 and the latest nouveau dirver
on Koji. It fails to boot into gdm.

Liang Suilong

On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 11:20 PM, James Laska jla...@redhat.com wrote:

 Greetings folks,

 Just a quick update on the status of F13Blocker.  According to the
 schedule [1], Fedora 13 is scheduled to enter the release candidate
 phase *today*, May 6, 2010.  In order to enter this phase, all OPEN
 F13Blocker bugs must be in MODIFIED or ON_QA.

 The numbers are certainly moving in the right direction.  Thank you all
 for being on top of your bugs.  There are now only 4 OPEN (NEW +
 ASSIGNED) issues remaining (see list below).

 To get a bug off the list, you can ...
 1. Resolve the issue as desired (followed by a build and F13 bodhi
update)
 2. Prove there is minimal, or no, impact to the Fedora Release
Criteria [2]

 Use your last minute analogy of choice (end game, final lap, eleventh
 hour, don't cut the blue wire (just seeing if you're paying attention)).
 Today is the scheduled date for creating the Fedora 13 release
 candidate.  Any delays in creating the release candidate put Fedora 13
 at risk for a 1 week slip.

 Thanks,
 James

 [1]
 http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-13/f-13-quality-tasks.html
 [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_13_Final_Release_Criteria

 = anaconda =
  * 571900 (mgra...@redhat.com) NEW - Keyboard mapping not correct
(USA instead of Belgium) when first login after install Fedora
13 Alpha -
  * 588597 (anaconda-maint-l...@redhat.com) NEW - DeviceError:
('device has not been created'

 = kernel =
  * 587171 (a...@redhat.com) ASSIGNED - Intel kms leads to an all
black display

 = preupgrade =
  * 587627 (rich...@hughsie.com) ASSIGNED - Kickstart file is not
generated when no space for install.img

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Re: [Test-Announce] Preupgrade Test Day - Thursday 2010-04-29

2010-05-02 Thread Liang Suilong
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 29 April 2010 07:51, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote:
  Why does the too low /boot space to install testcase (which is actually
  the common case when upgrading from F12 or F11) still require manually
  removing excess kernels, 6 months after this issue became initially
 known?

 Because nobody has written a patch to do this yet.

  Preupgrade should do this automatically. After the upgrade, ALL the old
  kernels will be removed anyway, so I don't see how it hurts to remove all
  except the running one right away.

 Sure, as long as you're currently running the latest kernel then I
 guess this makes sense. Patches very welcome.

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Re: [Test-Announce] Preupgrade Test Day - Thursday 2010-04-29

2010-05-02 Thread Liang Suilong
Sorry, I sent a blank mail to list.

When user starts to use preupgrade, it downloads installer files into /boot.
Then reboot the computer and begin the upgrade process.

The method will cause a problem, if /boot does not have enough spaces,
preupgrade can not finish the upgrade.

Preupgrade is a tool to download netinstall files to local disk and
configure the grub and calculate how many packages your system should be
upgraded. So why not put the installer file to / or another bigger
directory. I think that preupgrade can create a directory in root partition
and put installer into it. The installer should run after reconfigure the
grub.conf or grub.cfg for grub 2. I believe that that is better than files
locating in /boot for the reason that root filesystem usually has more
spaces.

Liang Suilong

On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 8:45 PM, Liang Suilong liangsuil...@gmail.comwrote:



 On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 29 April 2010 07:51, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote:
  Why does the too low /boot space to install testcase (which is
 actually
  the common case when upgrading from F12 or F11) still require manually
  removing excess kernels, 6 months after this issue became initially
 known?

 Because nobody has written a patch to do this yet.

  Preupgrade should do this automatically. After the upgrade, ALL the old
  kernels will be removed anyway, so I don't see how it hurts to remove
 all
  except the running one right away.

 Sure, as long as you're currently running the latest kernel then I
 guess this makes sense. Patches very welcome.

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Some Ideas About Fedora 14 Media

2010-04-28 Thread Liang Suilong
Hi, all.

Fedora 13 Desktop Spin would target to 1GB LiveDVD. But at last desktop team
decided to return to 700MB CD size. It means that we should give up
OpenOffice.org and GIMP by default. It looks quite sad. Looking at
BrOffice.org, I seem to find out some ideas.

Broffice suite and GIMP are installed in BrOffice.org by default,
nevertheless, broffice spin gives up many locale files. Broffice just only
support English, Spanish and Portuguese. So does desktop spin follow this
method? Deskop spin contains OOo and GIMP, but it should remove most of
GNOME locale files and OOo langpack. Then desktop spin can keep 700MB CD
size.

How can we download langpack file? Yum-langpacks seems to be the best
solution. When we choose some language in system-config-lanage,
yum-langpacks can download langpack of GNOME, KDE and OOo and some fonts we
need and IME for that language. Anaconda also can run this plugin in
%post-install so that it can fetch language pack and IME from remote
repository.

But We can not ignore that separating langpack from GNOME is a great job.
Packaging langpack like kde-l10n-* and language-pack-* in Ubuntu needs a lot
of packager to do it.

Better experience: Live/Install Hybrid DVD
Looking at install DVD, it looks too old. To add a Livesystem on DVD media
can improve user experience. However, unlike Anaconda on install media,
Anaconda on live system can not load a repository on media or a remote
repository. That's a great problem.

Just hope these suggestions can help Fedora community, I wish that Fedora 14
would have a better installation experience.

Liang Suilong

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Re: Some Ideas About Fedora 14 Media

2010-04-28 Thread Liang Suilong
Tnank you for your reply.

As you say, kickstart command can filter installation language. But the
problem is lacking a easy way to switch to another language which is not
installed in the system.

Once I tried to install Fedora 13 Broffice.org Spin on my desktop. Switching
to English is an easy job, nevertheless, Switching to Simplified Chinese is
quite hard. Now I do not know how to make GNOME become Chinese interface.
Should I reinstall entire GNOME? I have installed Chinese-support group.

I know separating langpack from GNOME is a difficult and big project. But
why does not GNOME pack language files like kde-l10-* for KDE4? It is more
flexible. No matter what should be changed in LiveCD, I just hope Desktop
Spin LiveCD keeps 700MB CD Size. Maybe Hybrid DVD solution will be more
available and accepted by most user.

On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Nicolas Chauvet kwiz...@gmail.com wrote:

 2010/4/28 Liang Suilong liangsuil...@gmail.com:
  Hi, all.
  Fedora 13 Desktop Spin would target to 1GB LiveDVD. But at last desktop
 team
  decided to return to 700MB CD size. It means that we should give up
  OpenOffice.org and GIMP by default. It looks quite sad. Looking at
  BrOffice.org, I seem to find out some ideas.
  Broffice suite and GIMP are installed in BrOffice.org by default,
  nevertheless, broffice spin gives up many locale files. Broffice just
 only
  support English, Spanish and Portuguese. So does desktop spin follow this
  method? Deskop spin contains OOo and GIMP, but it should remove most of
  GNOME locale files and OOo langpack. Then desktop spin can keep 700MB CD
  size.
  How can we download langpack file? Yum-langpacks seems to be the best
  solution. When we choose some language in system-config-lanage,
  yum-langpacks can download langpack of GNOME, KDE and OOo and some fonts
 we
  need and IME for that language. Anaconda also can run this plugin in
  %post-install so that it can fetch language pack and IME from remote
  repository.
  But We can not ignore that separating langpack from GNOME is a great job.
  Packaging langpack like kde-l10n-* and language-pack-* in Ubuntu needs a
 lot
  of packager to do it.
  Better experience: Live/Install Hybrid DVD
  Looking at install DVD, it looks too old. To add a Livesystem on DVD
 media
  can improve user experience. However, unlike Anaconda on install media,
  Anaconda on live system can not load a repository on media or a remote
  repository. That's a great problem.
  Just hope these suggestions can help Fedora community, I wish that Fedora
 14
  would have a better installation experience.
  Liang Suilong

 The appropriate kickstart command to filter exept but french and english
 is:
 %packages --instLangs en:fr:fr_FR:fr-FR
 it doesn't  work on EL-5 IIRC and I don't know how it will work with
 lang-pack plugin.

 The problem was that once the live media is installed, then you don't
 have the full set of Fedora packages and you cannot restore the other
 locale at this time.

 I think an hybrid install/live media with locales stipped is a good
 idea that worth some experiments.

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Re: How to contact Matthias Saou?

2010-04-26 Thread Liang Suilong
Robin Lee

You can go to IRC channel #fedora-admin, and say that the packager of gentoo
disappears. You can not contract with him. Then admin follows your case.

Liang Suilong

On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:12 PM, Robin 'cheese' Lee chees...@hotmail.comwrote:

 According to
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Policy_for_nonresponsive_package_maintainers
 ,
 I now ask if anyone knows how to contact Matthias Saou.

 I would like to co-maintain the package 'gentoo'.
 I have provided enough information to update this package.
 Refer to: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=561303

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Talking about live upgrade

2010-04-07 Thread Liang Suilong
Hi, all

Several days ago, I wrote an article about upgrading. Many users meets the
same problem. Also Casey Dahlin gives me a lot of advices. Maybe devel list
is fit for a border discuss about upgrade experience. Will Live upgrade
replace preupgrade?

Now we can not get access to my blog because of censorship in China. I will
solve it in several days. Please wait for moments.

I paste my article at Fpaste:  http://fpaste.org/tTLC/

Thank you

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