Re: F25 System Wide Change: KillUserProcesses=yes by default

On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 7:48 PM, Stephen John Smoogen <smo...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 9 July 2016 at 19:40, Nico Kadel-Garcia <nka...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 4:46 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek >> <zbys...@in.waw.pl> wrote: > s. >> >&

Re: F25 System Wide Change: KillUserProcesses=yes by default

On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 4:46 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek <zbys...@in.waw.pl> wrote: > On Sat, Jul 09, 2016 at 07:32:01AM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 8:13 AM, Jan Kurik <jku...@redhat.com> wrote: >> > = Proposed System Wide Change: Ki

Re: F25 System Wide Change: KillUserProcesses=yes by default

On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 5:09 PM, Ben Rosser wrote: > On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 4:56 PM, Chris Murphy > wrote: >> >> I think this needs to be rethought. The options right now are, modify >> an as yet unknown quantity of background programs so they

Re: F25 System Wide Change: KillUserProcesses=yes by default

On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 8:13 AM, Jan Kurik wrote: > = Proposed System Wide Change: KillUserProcesses=yes by default = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/KillUserProcesses_by_default > > Change owner(s): > * Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > > Set the

Re: i686 as secondary arch?

On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 6:02 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Tue, Jul 05, 2016 at 11:09:46AM +0200, Adrian Reber wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 05, 2016 at 10:04:03AM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: >> > On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 9:57 AM, Richard W.M. Jones >> > wrote:

Re: [OT] Tim, Gil, et. al. (e-mail address settings)

On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 7:54 PM, Joel Rees wrote: > To keep this off-list as much as possible, the rant is here: > > http://reiisi.blogspot.com/2016/07/to-gil-tim-fedora-et-al.html > > (The blame lies elsewhere. I wish I had the network and social cred to > get a real

Re: systemd 230 change - KillUserProcesses defaults to yes

On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 2:20 PM, Paul Wouters wrote: > On Fri, 3 Jun 2016, Lennart Poettering wrote: > >>> You are redefining the meaning of (a graphical) logout. It simply >>> means another user can use the mouse, keyboard and screen of this >>> device. It makes no statement on

Re: systemd 230 change - KillUserProcesses defaults to yes

On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Wed, 01.06.16 12:19, Howard Chu (h...@symas.com) wrote: > >> This is still looking at the problem back-asswards. The problem isn't that >> screen and tmux are special cases. The problem is that some handful of >>

Re: systemd 230 change - KillUserProcesses defaults to yes

On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 7:43 AM, Howard Chu wrote: > Tom Hughes wrote: >> >> On 01/06/16 12:19, Howard Chu wrote: >> >>> This is still looking at the problem back-asswards. The problem isn't >>> that screen and tmux are special cases. The problem is that some handful >>> of

Re: systemd 230 change - KillUserProcesses defaults to yes

On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 7:53 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Chris Murphy writes: > >> On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 9:37 PM, Chris Murphy >> wrote: >> >> > 4. >> > [chris@f24m ~]$ sudo btrfs scrub status / >> > [sudo] password for chris: >> > scrub status

Re: jwm

On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 5:41 PM, Przemek Klosowski wrote: > On 06/01/2016 05:34 PM, Bernardo Sulzbach wrote: > > On 06/01/2016 06:21 PM, Przemek Klosowski wrote: > > So the answer to your question is that the papers say they work 40 hours > per week, but in reality they

Re: systemd 230 change - KillUserProcesses defaults to yes

On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 7:04 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > In all of these cases you really want to make sure that whatever the > user did ends – really ends – by the time he logs out. So that the > employee can't do stuff there except when logged in, and that he can't >

Re: systemd 230 change - KillUserProcesses defaults to yes

On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Dan Book wrote: > > > On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 6:20 PM, Richard W.M. Jones > wrote: >> >> On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 06:51:20PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: >> > So there's tmux, screen, curl, wget, and probably quite a few others

Re: systemd 230 change - KillUserProcesses defaults to yes

On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 9:41 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 07:03:23PM -0400, Paul Wouters wrote: >> On Fri, 27 May 2016, Chris Murphy wrote: >> >> >It seems to me systemd should be able to know the difference between >> >a program that's

Re: systemd 230 change - KillUserProcesses defaults to yes

On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 9:13 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek <zbys...@in.waw.pl> wrote: > On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 08:51:23AM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: >> This breaks the storage of ssh-agent credentials for te one-time >> enabling of SSH credentials for access on runnin

Re: systemd 230 change - KillUserProcesses defaults to yes

On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 5:51 AM, Dominique Martinet wrote: > Hi, > > Just noticed this change on rawhide... > https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/master/NEWS#L29 > * systemd-logind will now by default terminate user processes that are > part of the user

Re: DNF Issue, packages being incorrectly removed - was: Re: corebird

On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 1:03 PM, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > > On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 3:02 AM, Michal Luscon wrote: >> >> This might have been caused by >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1259865 >> >> . >> >> Michal > > > Yes, Kevin mentioned that and

Re: Reserved GID for MongoDB

On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 3:54 PM, Przemek Klosowski wrote: > No I'm linking the policy as it has all the relevant guidelines for this > situation along with specific example script samples and the process that > needs to be followed with FPC if not using dynamic

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir

On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 7:00 AM, Remi Collet wrote: > Le 12/05/2016 à 09:36, Jan Kurik a écrit : >> = Proposed System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir = >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ReposInEtcDistroReposD > > > Perhaps the 1st goal

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 4:27 AM, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > Peter Robinson wrote on 12.05.2016 10:11: = Proposed System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ReposInEtcDistroReposD Change

Re: TPMs, measured boot and remote attestation in Fedora

On Sat, Apr 23, 2016 at 8:57 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Matthew Garrett wrote: >> Measured boot is a process whereby each component in the boot chain >> "measures" the next component. In the TPM 1.x world (which is where most >> of us still are), that measurement is in the

Re: introducing curl-minimal and libcurl-minimal RPM packages

On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 4:29 AM, Petr Pisar wrote: > I think the solution is have more packages delivering the same-named > shared library file with the same soname. Each of the packages > conflicting each other. Then the non-minimal package would provide RPM > symbols

Re: COPR repo in mock?

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 4:48 AM, Miroslav Suchy wrote: > Dne 19.1.2016 v 06:51 Dmitrij S. Kryzhevich napsal(a): >> Like any others. Provide information about repo to /etc/mock/YOURCONFIG.cfg >> In most cases in would be: /etc/mock/default.cfg >> >> You could find details for

Re: Unresponsive maintainer procedure for tuxbrewr

On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 9:31 AM, Sven Lankes wrote: > On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 01:30:27PM +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: > >> Isn't that tedious, inefficient and a waste of time? > > As all of the unresponsive maintainer procedure. > > Could we adjust the tooling so that a request

Re: Announce of package to mark as Orphan – repoview – rpmdepsize – snake - revisor

On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 10:37 AM, Sérgio Basto wrote: > On Sex, 2016-01-08 at 08:54 -0500, Jaroslav Mracek wrote: >> Hi everybody, >> >> I would like to set following packages as Orphan due to that upstream >> is dead or maintainers do not respond: >> >> repoview > > have we a

Re: Easier %config management?

On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 3:55 AM, Harald Hoyer wrote: > On 16.12.2015 03:32, Colin Walters wrote: >> On Tue, Dec 15, 2015, at 06:43 PM, Japheth Cleaver wrote: >>> >>> Perhaps RPM (or yum/dnf, via plugin) could write a duplicate copy of all >>> config files into a tree somewhere?

Re: rpmbuild Perl dependency finder broken since F23?

The "perl -w" option is also deprecated, and usually quite inappropriate to put in the #! line. It's aimed at producing warnings about *potential* problems, and can generate spew that is difficult to parse in normal operation. See http://www.perl.com/pub/2004/08/09/commandline.html for details on

Re: Dealing with the "my packages" problem

On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 4:49 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > Just as a general note on this thread: if you're a packager and you > have a genuine reason why people should be careful about touching your > package, or follow some specific process when doing so, or there's

Re: To distro-sync or not distro-sync?

On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 5:56 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 29.10.2015 um 10:09 schrieb Christopher Meng: >> >> You have a chance to get your rpmfusion softwares wiped after the sync. >> >> [1]---https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1263677 > > > unacceptable > >

Re: kcm_systemd license change: GPLv3+ → GPLv2+

On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Hi, > > sorry for this completely useless junk mail, it is required by policy: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing:Main#License_Changes Please, it's not "useless". Software licenses have been a source of

Re: dnf is completly broken

On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 1:15 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 27.09.2015 um 19:08 schrieb Josef Bacik: >> >> This is unnecessarily combative and derogatory to a fellow >> distribution, why are you going out of your way to be mean spirited? > > > because i am tired of

Re: noarch vs. all, x86_64 vs. amd64, kernel vs. linux and PAE

On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 7:53 PM, Josh Boyer jwbo...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 7:41 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia nka...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Josh Boyer jwbo...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com

Re: noarch vs. all, x86_64 vs. amd64, kernel vs. linux and PAE

On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Josh Boyer jwbo...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com wrote: On 2015-08-15, Neal Gompa ngomp...@gmail.com wrote: Out of all of those suggestions, the only one that might have any = real value would be renaming

Re: Same comand names in /usr/bin and /usr/sbin

On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 8:03 AM, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote: On Fri, 14.08.15 17:58, Matthew Miller (mat...@fedoraproject.org) wrote: On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 07:24:16PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: Given that sbin is in $PATH for unprivileged users too the seperation

Re: systemd bugs again and again

Yes, Lennart is a dick. Everyone who has to work with sytemd has seen this. But please, Don't give him excuses to pretend justification for ignoring your complaints by coming off growsy in the mailing list. On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 8:50 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: is systemd

Re: Same comand names in /usr/bin and /usr/sbin

On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 16.08.2015 um 18:57 schrieb Nico Kadel-Garcia: It's a basic violation of the ordinary segregation between /bin as ordinary user tools and /sbin as sysadmin tools to start mixing them, and much more confusing

Re: systemd bugs again and again

On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 1:09 PM, Josh Boyer jwbo...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Aug 16, 2015 1:01 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia nka...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, Lennart is a [rude word removed] Personal attacks are not acceptable on this list. Don't do it again. Sorry, that was meant to be a personal

Re: Same comand names in /usr/bin and /usr/sbin

On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 6:24 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia nka...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 16.08.2015 um 18:57 schrieb Nico Kadel-Garcia: It's a basic violation of the ordinary segregation between /bin as ordinary user tools

Re: Metadata signing for rawhide

On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 11:30 AM, Dennis Gilmore den...@ausil.us wrote: On Thursday, August 06, 2015 08:29:50 AM Rex Dieter wrote: Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: What makes you think a site that is poisoning or abusing the metadata would not simply run createrepo and generate entirely new metadat

Re: Same comand names in /usr/bin and /usr/sbin

On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 12:12:17 -0600 Orion Poplawski or...@cora.nwra.com wrote: iproute has /usr/sbin/ss stripesnoop has /usr/bin/ss This causes problems: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1249328 It seems like

Re: Metadata signing for rawhide

On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Dennis Gilmore den...@ausil.us wrote: On Thursday, August 06, 2015 08:27:44 AM Neal Gompa wrote: In the rpm-ecosystem mailing list, Michael Schroeder from SUSE brought up that we don't sign the metadata for the rawhide repository

Re: gross DNF bandwidth inefficiency if filesystem space limited

On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 3:14 PM, Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.com wrote: On 31 July 2015 at 17:27, Radek Holy rh...@redhat.com wrote: One can say that the mirrors should keep the older versions I would completely agree. As we can't rely that packages referenced in metadata just one day old

Re: About making noarch package arch specific, when contents differ.

On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 10:52 AM, Paulo César Pereira de Andrade paulo.cesar.pereira.de.andr...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-07-28 5:58 GMT-03:00 Florian Weimer fwei...@redhat.com: On 07/26/2015 04:05 PM, Paulo César Pereira de Andrade wrote: Should I make the doc packages arch specific? No, this

Re: tomcat-native orphaned

On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 2:50 AM, Peter Boy p...@barkhof.uni-bremen.de wrote: I appreciate very much we’ll keep tomcat-native in the Fedora repositories, thanks to Lorenzo. Although, I don’t grasp how Java Keystores could be a replacement. I thought the biggest use of tomcat-native was to

Re: Systemd Preset Policy

On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 8:28 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek zbys...@in.waw.pl wrote: On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 06:06:42PM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 23:56:07 + Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek zbys...@in.waw.pl wrote: On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 10:41:55PM +0100, Sérgio Basto

Re: tomcat-native orphaned

On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 11:30 AM, Lorenzo Dalrio lorenzo.dal...@gmail.com wrote: Taken. :) Is there really a need for it? Given that tomcat has good support for java keystore, even keystores with poorly passphrased keys, is there really a need for this package? 2015-07-14 23:11 GMT+02:00

Re: Puppet 4

On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 10:22 PM, Michael Stahnke stah...@puppetlabs.com wrote: As a point of moderation, we could probably break out the FHS/stateless discussion into its own thread, as at this point this has nearly nothing to do with Puppet. Good point. Let me circle it back around: It

Re: Puppet 4

On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek zbys...@in.waw.pl wrote: On Sat, Jun 06, 2015 at 06:52:35PM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: Given the profound discrepancies between the FHS 3 and everything that systemd touches, I'm afraid it's become a confusing guideline

Re: dnf install just stops - no explanation

On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 9:41 AM, Richard Fearn richardfe...@gmail.com wrote: I've experienced the same problem with a F22 VM running in VirtualBox. (Is yours a VM?) Disabling IPv6 seemed to help a bit, but the problem never went away completely. There a few bugs that talk about similar issues,

Re: Puppet 4

On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 11:31 AM, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Fri, Jun 05, 2015 at 01:31:10PM +, John Florian wrote: Personally I do so using a scheme like /opt/$VENDOR/$PRODUCT/$RELEASE, but to my knowledge the FHS has never ratified anything like that. The FHS seems

Re: Puppet 4

On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 2:21 PM, John Florian john.flor...@dart.biz wrote: I’ve been curious how Fedora plans to tackle inclusion of Puppet 4, but haven’t heard even a peep on the subject. As described[1], they’ve moved to an all-in-one packaging process that “includes Puppet 4, both Facter 2.4

Re: Differences between Koji and mock buildroots

On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 11:58 AM, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 04:08:03PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: I thought, Recommends: is still banned from Fedora packages. Why would you say that? because there are still no clear guidelines how to deal?

Re: UTF-8 locale in rpm build

On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com wrote: On 2015-05-10, Nico Kadel-Garcia nka...@gmail.com wrote: If a build system needs a particular language, it should be in the build scripts themselves. People do local, personal compilation in environments that use other

Re: UTF-8 locale in rpm build

On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 11:00 PM, Orion Poplawski or...@cora.nwra.com wrote: More and more tests/builds appear to require a UTF-8 locale. Perhaps it's time to have rpm set LANG=C.UTF-8? If a build system needs a particular language, it should be in the build scripts themselves. People do local,

Re: f22 rsync missing systemd unit files

On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: That depends on how you use rsync, if it's over ssh you don't need a daemon on the other end. Got it. So it works because I haven't been using

Re: Annonce: qt-virt-manager

On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 9:11 AM, Marcin Juszkiewicz mjuszkiew...@redhat.com wrote: W dniu 22.04.2015 o 19:36, Fl@sh pisze: Hi, all! I'm developing qt-virt-manager. I have to say: this is not a Qt-clone of the virt-manager. The application is able to perform a lot, so I suggest you to use, and

Re: plowshare is not shipped with modules anymore

On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 8:11 AM, Richard Z r...@linux-m68k.org wrote: On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 01:14:03PM +0300, Pavel Alexeev wrote: 17.04.2015 07:41, Ralf Corsepius пишет: On 04/17/2015 01:10 AM, Pavel Alexeev wrote: Hi 14.04.2015 05:20, Ralf Corsepius пишет: On 04/14/2015 03:01 AM,

Re: plowshare is not shipped with modules anymore

On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 2:15 AM, Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de wrote: On 04/12/2015 09:01 PM, Elder Marco wrote: Hello, Since version 2.x.x. plowshare is not shipped with modules anymore. There are two repositories. The main repository [1], with the core package, and a new repository,

Re: Heads up - openssh 6.8 coming to F22

On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 10:54 PM, Chris Adams li...@cmadams.net wrote: Once upon a time, Nico Kadel-Garcia nka...@gmail.com said: Also, heads up on OpenSSH releases: they're planning to disable ssh-1 compilation by default in a near future release, so the maintainer at Fedora will need

Re: dnf replacing yum and dnf-yum

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 3:40 PM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: There's some confusion around this, so I thought I would post to try and clear up things. In the event I am wrong on any of the below, please do feel free to correct me. ;) In the past the proposal was to have a yum-dnf

Re: Why does disk I/O slow down a CPU bound task?

On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 3:58 PM, Dave Johansen davejohan...@gmail.com wrote: I noticed on RHEL 6 that when a large amount of disk I/O is happening that CPU bound tasks slow down. I have been able to reproduce it in Fedora 21 as well and here are the instructions of how I can reproduce it with a

Re: Heads up - openssh 6.8 coming to F22

On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 10:21 AM, Jakub Jelen jje...@redhat.com wrote: Hi all, I know that it is quite late in F22 schedule and freeze is coming, but we decided to push recent upstream version into F22 before beta freeze to keep up with upstream. I spent some time with testing various use

Re: FESCO request to revert password confirmation change in F22

On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 6:53 PM, Björn Persson Bjorn@rombobjörn.se wrote: Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: I'm the guy that brought up the XKCD comic. I did it first. ;-) The classic storage is the Post-it note on the secretary's desk, but I see a lot of people who should know better writing them

Re: FESCO request to revert password confirmation change in F22

On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 8:44 AM, Björn Persson Bjorn@rombobjörn.se wrote: Mike Pinkerton wrote: I was responding to Björn Persson's suggestion that, in discussions of password quality, correcthorsebatterystaple would be an example of a safe password. Safe_r_. Security in passphrases isn't a

Re: FESCO request to revert password confirmation change in F22

On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: On Fri, 6 Mar 2015 10:52:34 -0500 David Cantrell dcantr...@redhat.com wrote: From what I'm reading in the meeting logs and the ticket comments, it appears the revert decision is basically a temporary solution and a more

Re: Why sysrq is limited to only sync command on official fedora kernel?

On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Michal Schmidt mschm...@redhat.com wrote: On 02/25/2015 03:04 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 8:54 AM, Ali AlipourR alipoo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Why sysrq is limited to only sync command on official fedora kernel? The kernel itself isn't

Re: systemd-219 issues with 22 and Rawhide composes

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 8:18 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia nka...@gmail.com wrote: Look, deciding to ignore the File System Hierarchy for installing config files and creating new locations to store system configuration is part of what killed the old daemontools init system replacement. tool. You

Re: systemd-219 issues with 22 and Rawhide composes

On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote: On Mon, 23.02.15 08:45, Nico Kadel-Garcia (nka...@gmail.com) wrote: [ notes snipped, ] You know, that systemd creates a symlink if the file is missing is not going to change behaviour of anything, since

Re: systemd-219 issues with 22 and Rawhide composes

On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 11:36 AM, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote: On Fri, 20.02.15 16:24, Peter Robinson (pbrobin...@gmail.com) wrote: Sorry for the inconvenience and feel free to add bugs to the tracker, which are caused by systemd changes and have to be fixed in other

Re: Regarding google summer of code 2015

On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 5:49 AM, Abhilash Mhaisne abhilashmhai...@gmail.com wrote: Sir / Madam, I am an engineering student, and gsoc aspirant. I want to develop a easy-to-use voice recognition system, which would be capable of judging even minor changes in accents, for

Re: initscripts

On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 7:13 AM, Björn Persson Bjorn@rombobjörn.se wrote: Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 12:19 AM, Björn Persson Bjorn@rombobjörn.se wrote: What's the recommended way for a user to find out which of the three GUIs it is that pops up when one clicks on a menu

Re: initscripts

On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 12:19 AM, Björn Persson Bjorn@rombobjörn.se wrote: What's the recommended way for a user to find out which of the three GUIs it is that pops up when one clicks on a menu entry, when the window title is something generic like network configuration and there is no about

Re: initscripts

On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 12:40 PM, Adam Williamson adamw...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Sun, 2015-01-25 at 08:49 -0500, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: * KVM bridge configuration Works fine in F21+, I'm using NM on both my main desktop/test box and my server VM host. Testing now on a VM

Re: initscripts

On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 10:20 PM, Scott Schmit i.g...@comcast.net wrote: On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 02:18:31PM -0600, Dan Williams wrote: NetworkManager is not intended only for mobile devices or notebooks, because that's a small part of the networking story. Plus, more than just notebooks have

Re: initscripts

On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 11:10 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 23.01.2015 um 19:26 schrieb Dan Winship: On 01/23/2015 10:53 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: on servers and static machines you don't need any dynamic network configuration which is why NM in F22 will have a

Re: another dnf problem

On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 7:24 AM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote: Radek Holy wrote: [...] What actually do you want? I'm really interested in what users expect when they use installonly packages in any command except install and remove. I strongly believe that there is a group of

Re: DNF as default package manager

On Jan 21, 2015, at 8:00, Jan Zelený jzel...@redhat.com wrote: Also I'd like to point out that if two packages offer the same provide, by definition it means they are 100% exchangeable from the perspective of that functionality. This is very, very wrong. Even minor differences in

Re: Removing (or trying to) BerkeleyDB from Fedora

On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 3:10 AM, Jan Synacek jsyna...@redhat.com wrote: Jan Staněk jsta...@redhat.com writes: Hi guys, as the new BerkeleyDB 6.x has a more restrictive license than the previous versions (AGPLv3 vs. LGPLv2), and due to that many projects cannot use it, perhaps it is time to get

Re: File location

On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 3:01 AM, Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de wrote: On 01/04/2015 07:41 AM, Anshu Prateek wrote: hi, I am working on packaging an upstream (aerospike) which presently puts some of its file in /opt/aerospike. The two main folders in use (by upstream) are

Re: Yet another frustration with Fedora package management

On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 5:58 PM, Rex Dieter rdie...@math.unl.edu wrote: Hedayat Vatankhah wrote: Hi! Summary: Try to prevent a package from being updated/installed from repositories regardless of the package management tool you use. As it seems, then only way you can do this is to exclude it

Re: Ramblings and questions regarding Fedora, but stemming from gnome-software and desktop environments

On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 10:47 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 02.01.2015 um 21:05 schrieb Miloslav Trmač: Here, GUIs _as a category_ (not necessarily the GUIs we are currently providing) should always be better than CLIs _as a category_ simply because the GUI can in the

Re: Ramblings and questions regarding Fedora, but stemming from gnome-software and desktop environments

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 8:26 PM, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Ian Malone wrote: Minor correction, CentOS is unbranded RHEL and Fedora is not RHEL upstream (so far as I am aware anyway). That is incorrect. Fedora is upstream for RHEL and

Re: Surprise in texlive-base %preinstall script

On Dec 27, 2014, at 13:03, Sam Varshavchik mr...@courier-mta.com wrote: Who else thinks that this part of texlive-base's %preinstall is not really such a hot idea: for i in `find /home/*/.texlive* -type d -prune`; do find $i -name *.fmt -type f | xargs rm -f /dev/null 21 done

Re: Sponsorship request

On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 2:38 AM, Vladimir Stackov amigo.el...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings, Fedora developers, I'm coming to you with one small request: I'm asking you for a sponsorship for this review request: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1172525 I understand that I'm somewhat

Re: F21 downloads repository metadata in 3 places!

On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 4:17 AM, Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.com wrote: On 16 December 2014 at 23:40, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: feels like new faster and larger hardware is for 90% used that developers don't need to consider ressource constraints because i don#t see that

Re: is it possible to skip a noarch subpackage on certains archs (arm)

On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 4:32 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek zbys...@in.waw.pl wrote: On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 10:00:00AM -0500, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: Would it be saner to make a separate SRPM that builds just the documentation, even if it uses the same source tarball? That way, minor

Re: is it possible to skip a noarch subpackage on certains archs (arm)

On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 1:09 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek zbys...@in.waw.pl wrote: Hi, I have a package (a C++ library), which generated doxygen documentation during build. The documentation lands in a noarch -doc subpackage, the rest in the main package or in subpackages, all arch-ed.

Re: Abotu setting 'PermitRootLogin=no' in sshd_config

On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 8:06 AM, P J P pj.pan...@yahoo.co.in wrote: On Thursday, 27 November 2014 4:49 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: so why not consider disable sshd at all and make a checkbox in Anaconda ssh support yes/no because after somebody says yes it's his clearly decision and he is

Re: Abotu setting 'PermitRootLogin=no' in sshd_config

On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Scott Schmit i.g...@comcast.net wrote: On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 09:56:59AM -0500, Simo Sorce wrote: On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 08:24:32 + (UTC) P J P wrote: On Saturday, 22 November 2014 1:39 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 09:11:51AM

Re: Abotu setting 'PermitRootLogin=no' in sshd_config

On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 09:56:59 -0500 Simo Sorce s...@redhat.com wrote: We can install machine w/o user accounts, removing the ability to log in as root via ssh means those machines will not be accessible. This has been the

Re: Abotu setting 'PermitRootLogin=no' in sshd_config

On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 7:44 PM, Dennis Gilmore den...@ausil.us wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 21 Nov 2014 07:11:27 + (UTC) P J P pj.pan...@yahoo.co.in wrote: Hello, Sshd(8) daemon by default allows remote users to login as root. 1. Is that really

Re: Mozilla enabled ads in Firefox and they're active in Fedora

On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 4:17 AM, Nikos Roussos comzer...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On 11/18/2014 08:24 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Nikos Roussos comzer...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On 11/16/2014 08:24 PM, Christopher wrote: On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 6:46 AM

Re: Mozilla enabled ads in Firefox and they're active in Fedora

On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Nikos Roussos comzer...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On 11/16/2014 08:24 PM, Christopher wrote: On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 6:46 AM, Mustafa Muhammad mustafaa.alhamda...@gmail.com mailto:mustafaa.alhamda...@gmail.com wrote: This doesn't seem relevant to this

Re: No more deltarpms by default

On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 08.11.2014 um 20:21 schrieb Nico Kadel-Garcia: [root@rawhide ~]# rm -rf /var/cache/dnf/* I do think you also flushed all the historical data on what packages were installed from what repositories

Re: No more deltarpms by default

On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: the meta-data are fat look below The metadata are bulky, fairly monolithic databases. They cannot easily support incremental updates of the metadata because they are compressed, singular files storing data for all

Re: Remove Perl from minimal build root

On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.com wrote: On 30 October 2014 14:02, Vít Ondruch vondr...@redhat.com wrote: If you have any comments, please speak up now. No comment, just lots of thanks! Richard I tried this, *twice*. Once way, way back when with Red Hat 6.x

Re: No more deltarpms by default

On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 11:07 PM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: On Sun, 19 Oct 2014 21:52:00 -0400 Nico Kadel-Garcia nka...@gmail.com wrote: It's a rough figure, from http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/releases/20/Everything/x86_64/os/repodata/ (a useful local mirror). Since the number

Re: No more deltarpms by default

On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 4:22 AM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 20.10.2014 um 04:02 schrieb Nico Kadel-Garcia: On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 5:26 AM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 19.10.2014 um 06:37 schrieb Nico Kadel-Garcia: On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 8:28 PM

Re: No more deltarpms by default

On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 6:40 AM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 20.10.2014 um 12:31 schrieb Gerd Hoffmann: On Fr, 2014-10-17 at 11:49 +, Andre Robatino wrote: Roberto Ragusa mail at robertoragusa.it writes: Are compressed rpms completely impossible to diff efficiently

Re: No more deltarpms by default

On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 1:04 AM, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 12:37 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: . And the bandwidth saving is still badly overshadowed by the necessary repodata bandwith from almost every run of reposync in the model you've just

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