Re: F15 / VirtualBox

2011-06-10 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 11:37 PM, Dave Jones da...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 09, 2011 at 02:00:57PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:   On Thu, Jun 09, 2011 at 08:01:06PM +1000, Chris Jones wrote:     I agree. As virtualization technology becomes more and more involved   and frequent on

Re: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-11 Thread Peter Robinson
On 11 Jun 2011 03:35, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/11/2011 05:20 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: Lets be blunt here - he pushed very very very hard on these very lists to get systemd in - now its in F15 and there are problems - so no punting please. Upstream and fedora are

Re: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-11 Thread Peter Robinson
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 9:17 AM, drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Denys Vlasenko dvlas...@redhat.com wrote: Hi Lennart, systemd is eating a lot more memory than any other init process I ever played with. Granted, systemd does a bit more that typical

Re: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-11 Thread Peter Robinson
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 12:50 AM, Genes MailLists li...@sapience.comwrote: On 06/10/2011 03:13 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: what would be really nice is to redirect systemd discussions to its upstream mailing list. Fedora devel is hardly the best place for it. Rahul Beg to differ -

Re: SUMMARY - [Fwd: Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 15 ARM hardfp Virtual FAD (Fedora Activity Day) - TODAY]

2011-06-13 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.comwrote: Now you need to persuade Red Hat to fund a bigger ARM build server than the one Canonical are building :-) http://thetanktheory.squarespace.com/this-8-bit-life/2011/6/10/ubuntu-linux-pandabuilder.html

Re: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-13 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.orgwrote: On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 06:01:22PM +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote: On Mon, 2011-06-13 at 17:29 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: We load a couple of kernel modules which systemd needs, and are sometimes compiled as

slightly late heads up: soname bump for gssdp/gupnp

2011-06-17 Thread Peter Robinson
Hey All, Sorry for the late notice but there was a soname bump in gssdp/gupnp that I missed. Most of the broken packages have now been rebuilt and it should be cleaned up for the next rawhide run. Cheers, Peter -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: systemctl F16\Rawhide RFE\Bug\My Ignorance?

2011-06-18 Thread Peter Robinson
On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote: In terminal systemctl status plymouth* returns no units. systemctl list-units returns too much What woul I use to list just a subsection, like plymouth* or any other similar services. How about systemctl

Re: Proposed package drops due to FTBFS

2011-06-23 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Pavel Alexeev (aka Pahan-Hubbitus) fo...@hubbitus.com.ru wrote: ** 23.06.2011 19:09, Matt Domsch wrote: Below are the of packages which have outstanding FTBFS bugs from earlier Fedora releases. I've split them up by their 'dist' tag which shows when they

Re: Packages that will be orphaned

2011-06-24 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:12 AM, Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com wrote: rstrode took over gdm and gnome-screensaver this morning. On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 03:39:28PM -0600, Andrew McNabb wrote: On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 10:24:08AM -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: Excellent. Let me know.

Re: Security updates for Firefox 4 in F-15

2011-06-25 Thread Peter Robinson
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Jochen Schmitt joc...@herr-schmitt.dewrote: Hallo, I have a spcial question about secirity update of Firefox 4 on F-15. On http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Diskussionen-um-Versionspolitik-von-Firefox-1268009.html you could read, that upstream

Re: biosdevname in fedora 15 - why is this inconsistency?

2011-07-08 Thread Peter Robinson
On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Kevin Wilson wkev...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I have biosdevname-0.3.8-1.fc15.x86_64 on fedora 15 machine. I see from man biosdevname , that the name of the devices should be: .. emport for embedded NICs pcislot#port_virtual

Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 15 ARM hardfp Virtual FAD (Fedora Activity Day) - FRIDAY

2011-07-10 Thread Peter Robinson
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 10:44 PM, Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.orgwrote: On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 05:31:09PM -0400, Jon Masters wrote: It doesn't just benefit bootstrap either. Take (random example) the recent CFLAGS change in redhat-rpm-config. What should happen at that point is that

Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 15 ARM hardfp Virtual FAD (Fedora Activity Day) - FRIDAY

2011-07-10 Thread Peter Robinson
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 11:49 PM, Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.orgwrote: On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 11:11:52PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 10:44 PM, Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote: It's certainly true that we could do more to identify ftbfs situations

Re: boost 1.47.0

2011-07-19 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 9:35 PM, Petr Machata pmach...@redhat.com wrote: Hi there, in accordance with the announced Fedora feature[1][2], we (the Boost maintainers) plan to rebase Boost to 1.47.0 really soon now. Boost 1.47.0 has been released recently and Denis Arnaud kindly did the

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages in F-16 (final warning)

2011-07-25 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote: Each release, before branching, we block currently orphaned packages. It's that time again for Fedora 16. New this go-round is that we are also blocking packages that have failed to build since before Fedora 14. The

Re: Java 7 for Fedora 16

2011-07-26 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 4:30 PM, Deepak Bhole dbh...@redhat.com wrote: * Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com [2011-07-23 20:03]: On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 02:00:24PM -0700, Douglas Myers–Turnbull wrote: Hi, Just something I wanted to bring to attention: Java 7 is slated for release

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages in F-16 (final warning)

2011-07-27 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Fabian Deutsch fabian.deut...@gmx.dewrote: Am Dienstag, den 26.07.2011, 11:28 -0400 schrieb Bill Nottingham: Fabian Deutsch (fabian.deut...@gmx.de) said: It seems as if my first mail (from 12 days ago) got lost: I can take Orphan link-grammar

Re: Fedora 18 Release name voting and Poll for whether to continue naming releases

2012-04-25 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Miroslav Suchy msu...@redhat.com wrote: On 25.4.2012 15:05, Peter Jones wrote: On 04/24/2012 05:14 AM, Miroslav Suchý wrote: I can keep only 3-5last releases in my poor head. Then just *don't*. F14 is the past. Let it go. Tell it to Mythdora which is

Re: Fedora 17 Change Freeze

2012-05-03 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org wrote: On 05/01/2012 07:30 PM, Dennis Gilmore wrote: the fedora 17 schedule http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/17/Schedule lists the final change freeze as 2012-05-07 this means that you need to make sure that any changes you

Re: Fedora 17 Change Freeze

2012-05-03 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org wrote: On 05/03/2012 08:50 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Paul Howarthp...@city-fan.org  wrote: On 05/01/2012 07:30 PM, Dennis Gilmore wrote: the fedora 17 schedule http://fedoraproject.org/wiki

Re: Fedora 17 Change Freeze

2012-05-03 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org wrote: On 05/03/2012 09:22 AM, Paul Howarth wrote: On 05/03/2012 09:17 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Paul Howarthp...@city-fan.org wrote: On 05/03/2012 08:50 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: On Thu, May

Re: Proposed F18 feature: MiniDebugInfo

2012-05-07 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Alexander Larsson al...@redhat.com wrote: I just wrote a new Feature proposal for shipping minimal debug info by default: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/MiniDebugInfo The feature page lists some of the background and statistics. It also lists some

Re: Like C++? Not afraid of quirky build systems? Seeking LLVM co-maintainers

2012-05-10 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 4:17 AM, DJ Delorie d...@redhat.com wrote: Is LLVMpipe needed on, say, ARM? (Does anyone have a screenshot of GNOME Shell running on such a system?). Is this close enough? http://www.delorie.com/arm/f15-gnome-on-olpc.jpg And currently OLPC uses gnome-panel although

12.1.0 devel build 10 released, for the XO-1, XO-1.5 and XO-1.75

2012-05-12 Thread Peter Robinson
The Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water... release. This is the end of the development cycle. We're now headed into the stabilisation and bug fixing phase. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/12.1.0/Release_plan Fixed bugs: #11796 XO-1 os8 (12.1.0) - 'rpm' fails to run #11766

Re: x32 abi support?

2012-05-17 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 5:19 AM, Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote: On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 12:28:29AM +0200, Xose Vazquez Perez wrote: Matthew Garrett wrote: [...] So, overall, x32 is only really beneficial for embedded platforms rather than general purpose ones. As Josh says, if

12.1.0 devel build 10 released, for the XO-1, XO-1.5 and XO-1.75

2012-05-20 Thread Peter Robinson
The They're Having So Much Fun It's Illegal. release. This is the end of the development cycle. We're now headed into the stabilisation and bug fixing phase. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/12.1.0/Release_plan Fixed bugs: #11850 12.1.0 os10 image too large to fit on a XO-1 #11828 olpc UID has

Re: The package erlang-erlzmq2 can't be built for F-17 and F-18 (blocked)

2012-05-26 Thread Peter Robinson
On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Peter Lemenkov lemen...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. This package was retired for some time and now it was re-enabled (see review request in https://bugzilla.redhat.com/810205 ). Unfortunately it still can't be built for F-17 anf F-18. Koji fails and returns quite

Re: glusterfs rename

2012-05-30 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Kaleb S. KEITHLEY kkeit...@redhat.com wrote: On 05/30/2012 12:44 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: To be honest it's a pain in the neck to deal with such packages, and unless there's an overwhelming need, I can't recommend it.  Does any user really need to

Re: glusterfs rename

2012-05-30 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 7:11 PM, Kaleb S. KEITHLEY kkeit...@redhat.com wrote: On 05/30/2012 01:34 PM, Kaleb S. KEITHLEY wrote: On 05/30/2012 01:25 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: And FWIW, doing nothing doesn't resolve the glusterfs in EPEL versus glusterfs in the RHS Channel issue. That's

Re: glusterfs rename

2012-05-30 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 8:03 PM, Kaleb S. KEITHLEY kkeit...@redhat.com wrote: On 05/30/2012 02:23 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: Yes, for the Fedora side of things I think gluster 3.2 is the best strategy with a fedorapeople repo of 3.3 if it's considered worthwhile for those that wish to play

Re: Fedora ARM and SecureBoot

2012-06-07 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Przemek Klosowski przemek.klosow...@nist.gov wrote: What is Fedora ARM planning to do about the upcoming Microsoft hardware certification spec requiring Secure Boot? By the spec, there must be a way to disable it on x86, but on ARM they expressly prohibit turning

Re: Fedora ARM and SecureBoot

2012-06-07 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 9:30 PM, drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 10:02 PM, Adam Jackson a...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, 2012-06-07 at 21:12 +0200, drago01 wrote: On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 7:14 PM, Przemek Klosowski przemek.klosow...@nist.gov wrote: What is Fedora ARM

Re: Deleting a package from f18/rawhide builds?

2012-06-07 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 10:37 PM, Kaleb Keithley kkeit...@redhat.com wrote: How do I do this? (The package is hekafs.) I have retired the package in f18. I have removed the f18 tag from all the fc18 builds. Bit the rawhide build is still pulling the fc17 version of the package. There are

Re: Fedora ARM and SecureBoot

2012-06-08 Thread Peter Robinson
On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Gerry Reno gr...@verizon.net wrote: On 06/08/2012 09:00 AM, drago01 wrote: On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Gerry Reno gr...@verizon.net wrote: On 06/08/2012 08:07 AM, Mario Torre wrote: On Thu, 2012-06-07 at 14:34 -0500, Chris Adams wrote: that would not allow

Re: Fedora ARM and SecureBoot

2012-06-08 Thread Peter Robinson
On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 6:07 PM, Gerry Reno gr...@verizon.net wrote: On 06/08/2012 01:04 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2012-06-08 at 14:07 +0200, Mario Torre wrote: On Thu, 2012-06-07 at 14:34 -0500, Chris Adams wrote: that would not allow custom kernel and such.  Don't support the locked

Re: Fedora ARM and SecureBoot

2012-06-08 Thread Peter Robinson
On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 10:47 PM, Richard Vickery richard.vicker...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Oron Peled o...@actcom.co.il wrote: On Friday, 8 בJune 2012 20:07:20 Gerry Reno wrote: On 06/08/2012 01:04 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: That is only assuming that Windows on

Re: ARM is a dead end

2012-06-15 Thread Peter Robinson
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 12:57 AM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: Hi, I've been pointed to a news item about a (apparently the first) x86 (Atom) based smartphone: http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/14/orange-san-diego-review/ So even smartphones are going x86 now. It looks like x86

Re: ARM is a dead end

2012-06-15 Thread Peter Robinson
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 1:08 AM, Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote: On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 01:57:18AM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: So I would urge Fedora not to waste our time on a low-end architecture filling a temporary niche which will become obsolete as demand for performance

Re: Rawhide updated breaks yum

2012-06-30 Thread Peter Robinson
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote: Somehow it's possible to update rpm but not yum and break Rawhide, using just 'yum' commands, not rpm directly and no forced installs. Anyway my machine now says: $ sudo yum install yum error: db5 error(-30969)

Re: UFS / AFFS filesystems

2012-07-10 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Ian Chapman packa...@amiga-hardware.com wrote: Hi, Have the ufs / affs and other file systems been intentionally dropped from the F17 kernel, or is that just an oversight? They're still there but they've been moved to the kernel-modules-extra sub package.

Re: Mass rebuild for Fedora 18 Complete

2012-07-22 Thread Peter Robinson
On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 07:39:31 -0500 Dennis Gilmore den...@ausil.us wrote: it was requested in https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5222 that we do a mass rebuild for Fedora 18 for

Re: Mass rebuild for Fedora 18 Complete

2012-07-23 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Christophe Fergeau cferg...@redhat.com wrote: Hey, On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 02:21:10PM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: The mass rebuild has completed and been tagged back into rawhide, they should appear in tomorrow's rawhide compose. 11057 packages were

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED v3] Retiring packages for F-18

2012-07-25 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 9:04 PM, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote: Tom Lane (t...@redhat.com) said: Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com writes: Before we branch for Fedora 18, as is custom, we will block currently orphaned packages and packages that have failed to build since Fedora

Re: Mass rebuild for Fedora 18 Complete

2012-07-25 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Adam Jackson a...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, 2012-07-24 at 18:11 -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: http://ausil.fedorapeople.org/f18-needsbuilt.html How is this list generated? It claims vbetool needs rebuilding, but vbetool has been deadpackaged. It's not been

retiring Pimlico suite of apps (contacts / dates / tasks)

2012-07-26 Thread Peter Robinson
Hi All, The pimlico suite of apps originally designed for phones but useful standalone have been dead upstream for quite some time and with the restructuring of evolution are often breaking. Upstream gnome now has standalone Contacts and Calendar apps with a Tasks app planned and there's others

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED v4] Retiring packages for F-18

2012-07-27 Thread Peter Robinson
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 3:26 AM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 15:45 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 13:15 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: Package qtparted (fails to build) H... http://bugz.fedoraproject.org/qtparted 750566

Re: OBS Fedora

2012-07-28 Thread Peter Robinson
On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Damian Ivanov damianator...@gmail.com wrote: First Thanks for the link and the answer. The guy ported it ten days later and it seems to work perfect now: http://www.martin-juhl.dk/2012/04/cbs-ready/ Second the problem with koji is that I have no web interface.

Re: Suggestion: Continuous mass rebuild

2012-07-30 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 9:46 PM, Dan Horák d...@danny.cz wrote: Richard W.M. Jones píše v Ne 29. 07. 2012 v 18:38 +0100: Currently we're doing a mass rebuild about every couple of releases, ie. once a year. Since Dennis Gilmore has written this rebuild script already, why don't we run the

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] [FINAL NOTICE] Retiring packages for F-18

2012-07-31 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 9:42 PM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: I'm looking into these: Bill Nottingham wrote: Package komparator (fails to build) Package krecipes (fails to build) Package qalculate-kde (fails to build) Package tesseract (fails to build) but since the

Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora ARM weekly status meeting 2012-08-01

2012-08-01 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 6:19 PM, Paul Whalen pwha...@redhat.com wrote: Good day all, This weeks Fedora ARM status meeting will take place today (Wednesday Aug 1st) in #fedora-meeting-1 on Freenode. Times in various time zones (please let us know if these do not work): PDT: 1pm MDT: 2pm

Re: Orphaning trac plugins

2012-08-08 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: On Wed, 08 Aug 2012 09:53:37 -0700 Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com wrote: I'm no longer responsible for trac administration and I cannot give these packages the attention they need. trac-git-plugin trac-iniadmin-plugin

Re: rawhide report: 20120824 changes

2012-08-25 Thread Peter Robinson
On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Dodji Seketeli do...@seketeli.org wrote: Hello, Fedora Rawhide Report rawh...@fedoraproject.org a écrit: firefox-14.0.1-3.fc19 - * Wed Aug 22 2012 Dan Horák dan[at]danny.cz - 14.0.1-3 - add fix for secondary arches from xulrunner With

Re: Fedora Infrastructure announces status.fedoraproject.org

2012-08-31 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: Greetings. I'm happy to announce the general availability of our status.fedoraproject.org site. This site provides an easy way for Fedora contributors and users to check on the status of services provided by Fedora

Re: Announcing OLPC OS 12.1.0 for XO-1, XO-1.5 and XO-1.75

2012-09-16 Thread Peter Robinson
On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 3:45 AM, Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 10:12:22 -0600, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: Hi, We're pleased to announce the release of OLPC OS 12.1.0 for XO-1, XO-1.5 and XO-1.75. Details of new features, known issues, and how to

Re: Orphaning: mtpfs (FUSE filesystem for MTP devices like Android tablets)

2012-09-17 Thread Peter Robinson
On 17 Sep 2012 16:15, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote: I've orphaned this package. There are various reasons for this: (1) It's buggy: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/bugs/mtpfs (2) Upstream is not responsive. The weight of developer effort seems to have moved to

Re: Mono stack issues in Fedora 18 (Was Re: F-18 Branched report: 20120920 changes)

2012-09-20 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 7:30 PM, Tom Callaway tcall...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/20/2012 08:05 AM, Fedora Branched Report wrote: [clutter-gtk010] clutter-gtk010-0.11.4-6.fc17.i686 requires libcogl.so.9 clutter-gtk010-0.11.4-6.fc17.x86_64 requires libcogl.so.9()(64bit) [ease]

Re: Mono stack issues in Fedora 18 (Was Re: F-18 Branched report: 20120920 changes)

2012-09-20 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 9:30 PM, Tom Callaway tcall...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/20/2012 03:33 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: When there's a new release someone generally comes in and throws it together and over the fence but doesn't actually support it. To be fair, those people are usually me

Re: Mono stack issues in Fedora 18 (Was Re: F-18 Branched report: 20120920 changes)

2012-09-24 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 5:38 PM, Tom Callaway tcall...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/20/2012 05:10 PM, Kalev Lember wrote: On 09/20/2012 08:30 PM, Tom Callaway wrote: ease requires clutter-gtk010 (okay, so we drop ease, but...) clutter-sharp requires clutter-gtk010 All of the following packages

Re: Fedora ARM weekly status meeting 2012-09-26

2012-09-27 Thread Peter Robinson
Morning all, Sorry for missing last nights meeting. In the short term I don't think I'll be able to make one until at least November as I'll be in Helsinki until at least Nov 2nd and that would make the meeting 11pm for me. I'll move to the format of updating by replying to this mail each week

Re: rawhide report: 20111207 changes

2011-12-08 Thread Peter Robinson
David, polkit-0.103-1.fc17 --- * Tue Dec 06 2011 David Zeuthen dav...@redhat.com 0.103-1.fc17 - Update to upstream release 0.103 - Drop upstreamed patch - Drop Fedora-specific policy, it is now upstream (fdo #41008) There's some issues with the obsoletes on this, its

Re: Canonical Will Remove Java From Ubuntu

2011-12-18 Thread Peter Robinson
On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote: http://lxer.com/module/newswire/ext_link.php?rid=159737 Actually that's not entirely correct. They're removing the Sun Java closed source variant due to changes in licensing from Oracle preventing them from shipping

Re: rawhide report: 20111221 changes

2011-12-21 Thread Peter Robinson
2011/12/21 Sérgio Basto ser...@serjux.com: On Wed, 2011-12-21 at 11:37 +, Rawhide Report wrote:         pida-0.6.2-2.fc17.x86_64 requires gnome-python2-gtkhtml2 I also have this problem on F16 . gtkhtml2 is long dead. The pida upstream needs to migrate it to something else, likely webkit.

Re: Results of a test mass rebuild of rawhide/x86_64 with gcc-4.7.0-0.1.fc17

2012-01-03 Thread Peter Robinson
2012/1/3 Pádraig Brady p...@draigbrady.com: On 01/02/2012 06:03 PM, Jim Meyering wrote: Nils Philippsen wrote: ... I've attached a list of packages and (co)maintainers, to easily find if one of your packages is affected or not. ... iwhd: meyering - clalance,zaitcev Thank you for the list.

Re: mysql is now a critpath package? WTF?

2012-01-05 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 5:36 PM, Tom Lane t...@redhat.com wrote: Dennis Gilmore den...@ausil.us writes: El Thu, 05 Jan 2012 12:16:34 -0500 Tom Lane t...@redhat.com escribió: So I submitted a routine bodhi request for updating mysql, and was astonished to find that it's marked as critpath.  It

Re: mysql is now a critpath package? WTF?

2012-01-05 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 5:51 PM, Tom Lane t...@redhat.com wrote: Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com writes: On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 5:36 PM, Tom Lane t...@redhat.com wrote: That answer doesn't make me any happier.  I've got a problem with being saddled with an extra layer of bureaucracy without

Re: Packaging guidelines for packaging vala bindings

2012-01-17 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 04:55:10PM +0100, Marc-André Lureau wrote: On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote: I agree with Ralf.  Vala files are meaningless except for people who

Re: Packaging guidelines for packaging vala bindings

2012-01-17 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 6:21 PM, Emmanuel Seyman emmanuel.sey...@club-internet.fr wrote: * Christophe Fergeau [17/01/2012 19:16] : By that reasoning, shouldn't we also fold python bindings in the -devel package? They are small, python is already implicitly installed, so this should be fine

Re: Package categorization and distribution construction

2012-01-19 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote: Following up with notes from FUDCon. Bill Nottingham (nott...@redhat.com) said: == Distribution construction == For this, we will continue to use groups in comps. PRO: - Don't have to change any distribution tools

Re: Package categorization and distribution construction

2012-01-19 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote: Peter Robinson (pbrobin...@gmail.com) said: Great idea, I would also love to see a clear out of the packages that aren't core/part of particular categories. MTAs in minimal would be one that comes to mind but there's

Re: BTRFS as default in F17?

2012-01-23 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 10:56 PM, Greg aptge...@gmail.com wrote: will BTRFS be default in F17? going by a story posted on Phoronix there's likely to be a fsck next month? http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=MTA0Njk I've heard that for months now. It's also post alpha and feature

Re: BTRFS as default in F17?

2012-01-24 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 7:22 AM, drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:04 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 10:56 PM, Greg aptge...@gmail.com wrote: will BTRFS be default in F17? going by a story posted on Phoronix there's likely

UsrMove feature breaking yum upgrade upgrades from older releases to F17?

2012-01-25 Thread Peter Robinson
Hi All, So I saw a rpm update and a number of other builds today when dealing with various packaging bits. Checking the update [1] and reading the attached bug [2] I was a little shocked to find that yum upgrade between releases would be explicitly broken due to this feature. Yes, I know that

Re: UsrMove feature breaking yum upgrade upgrades from older releases to F17?

2012-01-26 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 1:34 AM, Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 10:48:27PM +, Peter Robinson wrote: Hi All, So I saw a rpm update and a number of other builds today when dealing with various packaging bits. Checking the update [1] and reading

Re: UsrMove feature breaking yum upgrade upgrades from older releases to F17?

2012-01-26 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 8:24 AM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: Reindl Harald wrote: i made several HUNDRET of dist-upgrades with yum since FC3 and upgrade via DVD/Preupgrade is simply UNACEPPTABLE +1 IMHO this is a showstopper and approval for UsrMove should be withdrawn and

Re: UsrMove feature breaking yum upgrade upgrades from older releases to F17?

2012-01-26 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Harald Hoyer har...@redhat.com wrote: Am 25.01.2012 23:48, schrieb Peter Robinson: Hi All, So I saw a rpm update and a number of other builds today when dealing with various packaging bits. Checking the update [1] and reading the attached bug [2] I

Re: UsrMove feature breaking yum upgrade upgrades from older releases to F17?

2012-01-26 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 09:25:31AM +, Peter Robinson wrote: On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 1:34 AM, Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com wrote: IIRC from the discussion in FPC meetings, there should be a way to make yum

Re: filesystem

2012-02-04 Thread Peter Robinson
On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 2:50 AM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, 2012-02-03 at 18:10 -0800, darrell pfeifer wrote: If you want to respect people who are testing, then maybe there is something better than we don't have to exercise any care and we don't care, wink, wink, grin.

Re: Please create Fedora 17 in Bugzilla

2012-02-17 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, 2012-02-16 at 22:47 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: Bill Nottingham wrote: Ian Pilcher (arequip...@gmail.com) said: Anaconda in Fedora 17 Alpha RC2 cannot upload tracebacks to Bugzilla, because Bugzilla doesn't

Re: libglfw orphaned, but it has dependancies still in fedora ? (fwd)

2012-02-27 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:34 AM, Paul Wouters p...@cypherpunks.ca wrote: I was asked to look into this. libglfw is retired, but has dependancies that need it. It was added to Fedora on Nov 16, and retured by notting on July 25th, but it does not say why. Can this package be revived? If

Re: [ACTION NO LONGER REQUIRED] Retired packages for F-17

2012-03-04 Thread Peter Robinson
Hi Bill, It was my understanding that packages that are FTBFS prior to F-15 (ie not had a successful build in F-15 or later) were suppose to be retired/blocked as well. The following list are FTBFS from at least the F-15 mass rebuild and in some cases even the F-12 one but haven't been blocked

Re: [ACTION NO LONGER REQUIRED] Retired packages for F-17

2012-03-05 Thread Peter Robinson
Hi Rich, On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 04, 2012 at 05:26:02PM -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Sun, Mar 04, 2012 at 17:46:45 +,   Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: freetennis-0.4.8-18.fc12 Note that freetennis

Re: [ACTION NO LONGER REQUIRED] Retired packages for F-17

2012-03-07 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Till Maas opensou...@till.name wrote: On Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 06:36:23PM +, Peter Robinson wrote: On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote: Peter Robinson (pbrobin...@gmail.com) said: It was my understanding that packages

Re: [ACTION NO LONGER REQUIRED] Retired packages for F-17

2012-03-07 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 7:06 PM, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote: Peter Robinson (pbrobin...@gmail.com) said: At least for aircrack-ng from your list no FTBFS bug has been filed, therefore I do not see any reason to remove it from Fedora. And in case it really does not build, I

Re: FAT and HFS/HFS+ file system resizing restored in parted-3.1

2012-03-14 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:24 AM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: I wrote: Brian C. Lane wrote: I am going to be leaving parted at 3.0 for F17, I don't want to introduce a large change at this stage. This is really unhelpful, it's going to leave frontends with no way to readd

Re: webkitgtk3 and webkitgtk both installed

2012-03-17 Thread Peter Robinson
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:41 PM, Muayyad AlSadi als...@gmail.com wrote: hi, I made a spin with gimp pre-installed and found that webkitgtk and webkitgtk3 both installed the old webkitgtk is installed only because of gimp is there any plan to port gimp to webkitgtk3 It would require the

Re: Boost-1.50 in Fedora 18, Boost.Filesystem v2 to be dropped

2012-03-19 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mar 19, 2012 4:19 PM, Petr Machata pmach...@redhat.com wrote: Hi there, we (the Boost maintainers) intend to bump boost to a more recent version in course of Fedora 18 development. The Fedora 18 feature process is already open so I suggest you submit all these details to there so Fresco

Re: ARM as a primary architecture

2012-03-21 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: Peter Jones wrote: In yesterday's FESCo meeting I told you I'd make a list of specific issues I have with the current proposal for ARM as a primary archictecture. There are some places where I think the current

Re: RFC: Primary architecture promotion requirements

2012-03-21 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 11:46 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 12:08 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: 2) Updates.  Submitting updates requires the entire build to be complete which means you have to wait for the slowest thing to finish.  Having to wait for 12 hours

Re: RFC: Primary architecture promotion requirements

2012-03-21 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote: On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 10:41:33AM +0100, Miloslav Trmač wrote: On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:58 PM, Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote: I think you're looking at this in slightly the wrong way. Being a

Re: RFC: Primary architecture promotion requirements

2012-03-21 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com wrote: - Original Message - Maybe it's worth to ask them (or look at for example Mer builds) what's the difference in build times. A few statistics from build.meego.com - using the OBS and building in qemu. These

Re: RFC: Primary architecture promotion requirements

2012-03-21 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 7:13 AM, David Tardon dtar...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 12:52:58PM -0700, Brendan Conoboy wrote: On 03/20/2012 12:44 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: Now the ultra ridiculous: How about secondary architecture requirements demoted as-is to tertiary. And create

Re: ARM as a primary architecture

2012-03-21 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Josh Boyer jwbo...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 8:12 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: 1) mechanisms need to be in place to get package maintainers access to fix     arm-specific bugs in their packages So we have a tracker bug

Re: RFC: Primary architecture promotion requirements

2012-03-21 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Peter Jones pjo...@redhat.com wrote: On 03/21/2012 09:21 AM, Josh Boyer wrote: Except when people are forced to look at it, their solution was often ExcludeArch for PPC.  As I said in the other thread, you cannot force people to care about an architecture they

Re: SPDY in F18 (was Re: F17 httpd 2.4?)

2012-03-21 Thread Peter Robinson
2012/3/13 Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com: 2012/2/21 Jon Ciesla limburg...@gmail.com: 2012/2/21 Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com: Hi, Is there a chance to get httpd 2.4 in Fedora 17 http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/Announcement2.4.html ? This is the first major release from a few

Re: ARM as a primary architecture

2012-03-21 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Adam Jackson a...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, 2012-03-21 at 12:26 +, Peter Robinson wrote: No, we've never said that ever! But then there are a lot of desktops that run just fine without OpenGL. 3D really wasn't in a great state even in x86 until Fedora 15

Re: ARM as a primary architecture

2012-03-21 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Adam Jackson a...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, 2012-03-21 at 13:32 +0100, drago01 wrote: Even though I disagree with Kevin that we should block on does not have 3D drivers .. OpenGL is imo even more important on ARM (non server systems) then on x86. A tablet or

Re: ARM as a primary architecture

2012-03-21 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote: On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 02:28:10PM +, Peter Robinson wrote: What about all the other xorg-x11-drv* video cards, admittedly they're generally considered legacy but there are a lot that don't do 3D at all

Re: RFC: Primary architecture promotion requirements

2012-03-21 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 2:58 PM, Dave Jones da...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 01:27:04PM +, Peter Robinson wrote:   All sorts of things can speed it up, most of the Fedora builders are   currently loopback ext4 over NFS over 100Mb ethernet over USB. Not   optimal. Just

Re: ARM as a primary architecture

2012-03-21 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Adam Jackson a...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, 2012-03-21 at 14:31 +, Matthew Garrett wrote: On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 02:28:10PM +, Peter Robinson wrote: What about all the other xorg-x11-drv* video cards, admittedly they're generally considered legacy

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