Re: libtiff - update

2011-03-23 Thread Tom Lane
> libtiff also had the same issue and it has been updated today). This has > already been reported in > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=678635 > How can I find out when this new libtiff update will be added to Fedora > 14. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libtif

Re: libmysqlclient soname version bumped by upstream

2011-03-23 Thread Tom Lane
s like somebody acted on the testing request without knowing about the bundled-update plans :-(. I think I can revoke the update request but I'm not sure whether that will make the mess even worse. Comments? regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedora

Re: libmysqlclient soname version bumped by upstream

2011-03-22 Thread Tom Lane
the ticket for updates. (Rawhide builds work for me, though.) regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: libmysqlclient soname version bumped by upstream

2011-03-22 Thread Tom Lane
"Nathanael D. Noblet" writes: > On 03/22/2011 09:24 AM, Tom Lane wrote: >> OK, I built mysql 5.5.10 in F-15, but I'm not too clear on the process >> for getting dependent packages rebuilt in that branch. Any advice what >> to do next? > So I just got a b

Re: libmysqlclient soname version bumped by upstream

2011-03-22 Thread Tom Lane
kages rebuilt in that branch. Any advice what to do next? regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: libmysqlclient soname version bumped by upstream

2011-03-21 Thread Tom Lane
Adam Williamson writes: > On Mon, 2011-03-21 at 12:30 -0500, Chris Adams wrote: >> Once upon a time, Tom Lane said: >>> Now I have no problem with pushing such a change into rawhide, but what >>> shall I do about Fedora 15? It doesn't seem very nice to force a

Re: libmysqlclient soname version bumped by upstream

2011-03-21 Thread Tom Lane
Chris Adams writes: > Once upon a time, Tom Lane said: >> Now I have no problem with pushing such a change into rawhide, but what >> shall I do about Fedora 15? It doesn't seem very nice to force a soname >> bump after alpha. On the other hand, the alternatives se

Re: libmysqlclient soname version bumped by upstream

2011-03-21 Thread Tom Lane
=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Micha=B3_Piotrowski?= writes: > 2011/3/21 Tom Lane : >> Now I have no problem with pushing such a change into rawhide, but what >> shall I do about Fedora 15? It doesn't seem very nice to force a soname >> bump after alpha. On the other hand, t

libmysqlclient soname version bumped by upstream

2011-03-21 Thread Tom Lane
patch the releases to continue using the .16 version number * revert F15 to 5.1.x release series I don't much like any of these choices, but I don't have a time machine. Any opinions about what to do? regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fed

Re: Does License tag include manuals?

2011-03-12 Thread Tom Lane
ure the answer you'll get is "yes". You could possibly split the manual into a documentation subpackage with its own License: tag if you wanted to keep the license tags clear. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://ad

Re: GitHub Hosted upstream 'Source0'

2011-02-15 Thread Tom Lane
he way they are doing it, AFAICS, and it's not obvious what file format you will get from their URLs. ("zipball" seems a particularly poor choice here --- personally I'd have thought it meant a .zip archive ...) regards, tom lane -- devel mailing

Re: Mass Rebuild and Mass branching status update

2011-02-11 Thread Tom Lane
Jesse Keating writes: > On 2/10/11 7:42 PM, Tom Lane wrote: >> ... so, given that I've used "fedpkg co -B" to create a working tree >> with a subdirectory per branch, what's the incantation to get an f15/ >> subdirectory added to that tree? I hope there

Re: Mass Rebuild and Mass branching status update

2011-02-10 Thread Tom Lane
er than "rm -rf and re-clone". regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: __perl_requires misbehaving in rawhide (rpm or grep broken??)

2011-02-03 Thread Tom Lane
Paul Howarth writes: > Tom Lane wrote: >> For the last week or so I've been getting broken-dependencies nagmail >> about >> mysql-test-5.5.8-6.fc15.x86_64 requires perl(mtr_misc.pl) > RPM 4.9 has made changes in the provides/requires extraction code that > are n

__perl_requires misbehaving in rawhide (rpm or grep broken??)

2011-02-02 Thread Tom Lane
though. Should I file this as an rpm bug, or is there some other likely explanation? regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Problems with Rawhide Buildroot?

2011-01-27 Thread Tom Lane
on today. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Removing -fexceptions from $RPM_OPT_FLAGS

2011-01-19 Thread Tom Lane
f...@redhat.com (Frank Ch. Eigler) writes: > Tom Lane writes: >> Hmm ... so what should I do with mysql? Since approximately forever, >> upstream has recommended using -fno-exceptions (and also >> -felide-constructors -fno-rtti) in CXXFLAGS. [...] >> ... >> Se

Re: heads-up: systemtap-sdt-devel rebase in rawhide

2011-01-19 Thread Tom Lane
that don't play nice with , such a complaint is unlikely to impress authors of plain C apps. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: heads-up: systemtap-sdt-devel rebase in rawhide

2011-01-19 Thread Tom Lane
e chary of what they expose into application namespace, or this same scenario is going to be played out again and again. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Removing -fexceptions from $RPM_OPT_FLAGS

2011-01-19 Thread Tom Lane
to remove -fexceptions. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: initscript: Do I have to wait for a service to stop?

2011-01-17 Thread Tom Lane
d its pidfile, which it ought to do only as the last externally visible step in its shutdown. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: [HEADS-UP] MySQL 5.5 coming soon to rawhide

2011-01-10 Thread Tom Lane
homebrew implementation; so I don't think this is violating any packaging guidelines. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: [HEADS-UP] MySQL 5.5 coming soon to rawhide

2011-01-05 Thread Tom Lane
Jon Ciesla writes: > So should simply patching to call mysql_thread_end instead should do the > trick? Right. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: [HEADS-UP] MySQL 5.5 coming soon to rawhide

2011-01-03 Thread Tom Lane
Orcan Ogetbil writes: > On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Tom Lane wrote: >> For now I'll include a symlink libmysqlclient_r.so -> libmysqlclient.so, >> so that a simple rebuild with no source-code changes should be >> sufficient.  Eventually we'll probably wan

Re: [HEADS-UP] MySQL 5.5 coming soon to rawhide

2011-01-03 Thread Tom Lane
Jon Ciesla writes: > Tom Lane wrote: >> I got tired of the amount of visible churn in exported-symbols-you're- >> not-supposed-to-use. The new release will use a linker --version-script >> to hide everything except the documented API functions. This might >> br

Re: [HEADS-UP] PostgreSQL 9.0.2 now in rawhide

2010-12-29 Thread Tom Lane
ade scripts off to somewhere else. But I don't currently know enough about systemd to tackle that. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: [HEADS-UP] PostgreSQL 9.0.2 now in rawhide

2010-12-28 Thread Tom Lane
Bruno Wolff III writes: > On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 19:36:35 -0500, > Tom Lane wrote: >> I have pushed PostgreSQL 9.0.2 into rawhide, replacing the 8.4.x release >> series. >> >> Please let me know of either successful or unsuccessful upgrades. > I tried i

[HEADS-UP] PostgreSQL 9.0.2 now in rawhide

2010-12-28 Thread Tom Lane
itional-form backup would be a good thing to make first. Please let me know of either successful or unsuccessful upgrades. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: [HEADS-UP] MySQL 5.5 coming soon to rawhide

2010-12-28 Thread Tom Lane
Remi Collet writes: > Le 22/12/2010 23:28, Tom Lane a écrit : >> mysql++ > I've just committed some minor changes to this one (not related to the > MySQL 5.5 update, but on my TODO for a while) > Just need to launch the build (I could do it as soon as -2 will hit rawhide

Re: [HEADS-UP] MySQL 5.5 coming soon to rawhide

2010-12-27 Thread Tom Lane
=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Micha=B3_Piotrowski?= writes: > 2010/12/22 Tom Lane : >> 1. libmysqlclient.so, which is linked into all manner of stuff, is >> supposed to be ABI-compatible with the previous releases.  However, >> I got tired of the amount of visible churn in exported-s

Re: hmm, repoquery lied to me

2010-12-25 Thread Tom Lane
to get repoquery to not filter by arch? regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: hmm, repoquery lied to me

2010-12-25 Thread Tom Lane
> nuauth-log-mysql-0:2.4.3-1.fc15.i686 That seems to more nearly match the rawhide report, but I'm still baffled as to why I don't get that from repoquery here. Also, unless you truncated that output before reaching qt-mysql, yours is incomplete also. rega

hmm, repoquery lied to me

2010-12-25 Thread Tom Lane
here are a couple of dozen dependencies instead of four, maybe it was a bad idea. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

[HEADS-UP] MySQL 5.5 coming soon to rawhide

2010-12-22 Thread Tom Lane
from-previous-series.html I'm not sure to what extent these may affect Fedora applications, but it seems like the easiest way to find out is to try them. Any objections? Anything people think should be tested before pushing? regards, tom lane -- devel maili

Re: What drives RPM Provides for shared libraries?

2010-12-22 Thread Tom Lane
ovm qt-mysql regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: What drives RPM Provides for shared libraries?

2010-12-22 Thread Tom Lane
ovides items? I hope there's a better way than #ifarch'ing for all the known 64-bit arches ... regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

What drives RPM Provides for shared libraries?

2010-12-21 Thread Tom Lane
= 5.5.8-1.fc13 I thought for a bit that RPM was ignoring symlinks for this purpose, but even copying instead of symlinking the library didn't get me a second set of provides items. What drives those decisions? If there isn't any good hack to fix this, how bad would it be to just drop libmys

Re: Any plans for PostgreSQL 9, MySQL 5.5 in F15?

2010-12-20 Thread Tom Lane
Devrim =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=DCND=DCZ?= writes: > On Sun, 2010-12-19 at 17:30 -0500, Tom Lane wrote: >> Yes. > What about multiple version support in PG? I'm hoping to support in-place upgrade from 8.4. I'm not planning to open the concurrently-installed-versions can of wor

Re: Any plans for PostgreSQL 9, MySQL 5.5 in F15?

2010-12-19 Thread Tom Lane
Yes. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Firewall

2010-12-06 Thread Tom Lane
ewall by default is an incredibly stupid idea. What we need to do is fix the UI problems, not bypass them by dramatically reducing security. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: [HEADS-UP] Moving /var/run and /var/lock to tmpfs in Rawhide

2010-11-30 Thread Tom Lane
t getting dropped on the initscripts at all. It works perfectly well to set up these dirs once via RPM --- why shouldn't we make the tmpfs creation process responsible for cloning the directory structure from disk? regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Updates Criteria Summary/Brainstorming

2010-11-22 Thread Tom Lane
7;d be great if that actually did happen. But it's just not going to happen, most of the time for most packages. (And yeah, if we allow +1 autopush, we should definitely expect -1 is sufficient to unpush. Maybe bodhi should restrict the combination of those two settings, rather than either o

Re: Rawhide kernel image no longer readable

2010-11-20 Thread Tom Lane
ale. Absolutism is not a useful approach to security. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: The new Update Acceptance Criteria are broken

2010-11-20 Thread Tom Lane
dividual ad-hoc test managers is an incredibly inefficient use of their time. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-11-17)

2010-11-20 Thread Tom Lane
oes not result in more manpower becoming available ... more likely the opposite. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: The new Update Acceptance Criteria are broken

2010-11-12 Thread Tom Lane
"Clyde E. Kunkel" writes: > On 11/12/2010 02:32 PM, Tom Lane wrote: >> It's absolutely crystal clear to me that we don't have enough tester >> manpower to make the current policy workable; it's past time to stop >> denying that. I'd suggest na

Re: The new Update Acceptance Criteria are broken

2010-11-12 Thread Tom Lane
critical packages, for which there might be some hope of it actually working as designed. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Package rebuilds for gcc bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=634757

2010-10-05 Thread Tom Lane
rovide a list of the packages you are intending to rebuild? Or at least the exact dates where the bad gcc was in use? regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Arithmetic coding in Fedora libjpeg (bug #639531)

2010-10-02 Thread Tom Lane
ce because of patents. Resurrecting it from the dead now is just an exercise in misplaced priorities. But having said that, it's not my decision to make; it's the libjpeg-turbo authors' decision whether to expend effort in that direction.

Re: PostgreSQL 9 for F14?

2010-09-20 Thread Tom Lane
s soon as F-14 is stable --- see http://www.postgresql.org/download/linux regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: -static packages

2010-09-15 Thread Tom Lane
nst the policy isn't a helpful way to proceed. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: newer NVRs in older releases.

2010-09-07 Thread Tom Lane
off that future day is atm. There was some discussion last week about teaching the broken-dependencies nagbot to also nag about NVR sequence discrepancies. Is that feasible or a reasonable response? Or is that subsumed under your mention of autoqa? regards, tom lane -- devel

http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb is not tracking updates?

2010-09-05 Thread Tom Lane
, and even the "N days ago" annotations in the shortlog view seem wonky, as if the server clock were stuck in early August. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Inspecting/debugging a mock build

2010-09-05 Thread Tom Lane
en I forget a package I'm going to need. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Please remember to update rawhide

2010-09-02 Thread Tom Lane
Rex Dieter writes: > Tom Lane wrote: >> Toshio Kuratomi writes: >>> When you do an update in F-14 and rely on inheritance to get the package >>> into rawhide, there is a problem. That package will not go to rawhide >>> until it hits stable in F-14. >>

Re: Please remember to update rawhide

2010-09-02 Thread Tom Lane
awhide should inherit the latest completed build. It's rawhide, after all. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Please remember to update rawhide

2010-09-02 Thread Tom Lane
allel, and one of the back branches happens to execute first? What I think would be useful would be to extend the broken-dependency nagbot so that it also nags if you have a back-branch that's NVR-newer than any later branch. IOW: nag good, preventing people from doing their work bad.

Re: fedpkg prep

2010-09-01 Thread Tom Lane
t I like that idea a lot better than "branch" files, and especially better than some complicated rule with multiple places to look for the information. > Magic inspection of the branch relationships is not a substitute for > real configuration. Amen to that.

Re: fedpkg prep

2010-09-01 Thread Tom Lane
not doing the right thing. As Matt said, this sort of difference shouldn't hurt the ability to merge or cherrypick diffs from one branch to another. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

fedoraproject.org certificate has expired

2010-07-31 Thread Tom Lane
Just in case you thought we weren't having enough infrastructure fun already ... My web browser is complaining that admin.fedoraproject.org is presenting an invalid SSL certificate: it expired July 31, 2010 8:17:52 AM ET, ie about three hours ago. regards, tom

Re: HEADS UP - packages requiring openldap or openldap-clients

2010-07-07 Thread Tom Lane
es. I'm sending a > list of possibly affected ones. Were there any ABI breaks? ie should we just be forcing rebuilds? regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: concept of package "ownership"

2010-07-01 Thread Tom Lane
than anybody else in Fedora. I think it's counterproductive to downgrade that responsibility, or even worse pretend that it doesn't matter --- and Kevin's lead statement in this thread is damn close to pretending that. Sorry Kevin, we are not interchangeable parts.

Re: Bodhi 0.7.5 release

2010-06-30 Thread Tom Lane
Jesse Keating writes: > On 6/30/10 12:29 PM, Tom Lane wrote: >> I mentioned libtiff in my first comment in this thread. The other one >> is libpng. But in any case, are maintainers supposed to have to scare >> up testers on their own? Especially for packages that are

Re: Bodhi 0.7.5 release

2010-06-30 Thread Tom Lane
Will Woods writes: > On Wed, 2010-06-30 at 15:04 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: >> Yes I can. I have two critpath packages that are in testing with >> security bugs, both pretty small and easy to test, and both still have >> karma zero. That seems to me to be adequate proof

Re: Bodhi 0.7.5 release

2010-06-30 Thread Tom Lane
tional system is hard to imagine. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Bodhi 0.7.5 release

2010-06-30 Thread Tom Lane
to have two maintainers who each sign up as proventesters and then bump the karma on their own packages? Surely that's not the way to get more eyeballs on the problem. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/

Re: Bodhi 0.7.5 release

2010-06-30 Thread Tom Lane
Adam Williamson writes: > On Wed, 2010-06-30 at 11:35 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: >> The proposed policy might be workable if we had a surplus of >> proventester manpower available, but we obviously have not got that. > See above, you cannot judge this on current experience. Yes

Re: Bodhi 0.7.5 release

2010-06-30 Thread Tom Lane
regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: -upstart subpackage vs tranditional initscripts

2010-06-02 Thread Tom Lane
something else next year init scripts. I'll just stick with the tested sysv ones, thanks. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: libjpeg for F14

2010-05-31 Thread Tom Lane
er under the bridge now. If the libjpeg-turbo group is doing active development and is taking care not to break things unnecessarily, I'm happy to see them become the forefront of libjpeg development. Especially if it means I don't have to do the work ;-) regards

Re: base kernel to build fedora

2010-05-23 Thread Tom Lane
first, you'd need a separate build farm for every branch, and second, fedora N-1 is still a moving target for much of the life of fedora N. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: libjpeg for F14

2010-05-22 Thread Tom Lane
e a recompile of everything that depends on it ... regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: s/redhat/system in package names

2010-05-10 Thread Tom Lane
age names at all? The rpm-config package is certainly pretty specific to RHEL/Fedora. Can't speak to the other two of my own knowledge ... but if they weren't renamed the first time around, it's probably because people thought they were distro-specific. s/redhat/fedora/ seems

Re: chrony as default NTP client?

2010-05-05 Thread Tom Lane
ing roadblocks in the way of people who prefer ntpd is nonexistent. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: bodhi broken?

2010-05-04 Thread Tom Lane
Jesse Keating writes: > On Tue, 2010-05-04 at 12:49 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: >> Anybody else getting server error 500 when attempting to submit new >> updates in bodhi? > If the update had bugs listed in it, it could be failing due to the > bugzilla outage. Now that the outag

bodhi broken?

2010-05-04 Thread Tom Lane
Anybody else getting server error 500 when attempting to submit new updates in bodhi? regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: F-13 libtool broken by gcc update

2010-05-03 Thread Tom Lane
Jakub Jelinek writes: > On Mon, May 03, 2010 at 03:35:44PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: >> BTW, it's now two hours later and gcc 4.4.4 is still in the buildroot. >> There is no newrepo task running for F-13, and no evidence that one has >> been launched recently. Perhaps an

Re: F-13 libtool broken by gcc update

2010-05-03 Thread Tom Lane
ldroot. There is no newrepo task running for F-13, and no evidence that one has been launched recently. Perhaps an untag event fails to force a repo rebuild? If so seems like a bug. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fe

Re: F-13 libtool broken by gcc update

2010-05-03 Thread Tom Lane
ed builds see the override, or just prevent unrelated builds from happening during the window? This is surely not going to be the last undesired failure if things stay like this. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedorapr

F-13 libtool broken by gcc update

2010-05-03 Thread Tom Lane
why weren't there loud bleats from broken-dependencies checking? regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Postgresql namespace

2010-04-26 Thread Tom Lane
esn't apply so much to Fedora, where I usually push the "official" update about as quickly, but for sure it's an issue on RHEL and CentOS. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Thunderbird bz 579023 still not fixed even though there is an upstream fix available

2010-04-25 Thread Tom Lane
Bruno Wolff III writes: > On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 12:03:28 -0400, > Tom Lane wrote: >> Wouldn't it be sensible to approach the Mozilla folk about getting them >> to relax their requirements so that sane packaging is possible? ISTM >> that this must be a proble

Re: Thunderbird bz 579023 still not fixed even though there is an upstream fix available

2010-04-25 Thread Tom Lane
;t it be sensible to approach the Mozilla folk about getting them to relax their requirements so that sane packaging is possible? ISTM that this must be a problem for other distros too. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.

Bodhi update tool broken?

2010-04-25 Thread Tom Lane
I'm getting 500 Internal error The server encountered an unexpected condition which prevented it from fulfilling the request. Powered by CherryPy 2.3.0 while trying to submit new package updates in bodhi. regards, tom lane -- devel ma

Re: Postgresql namespace

2010-04-23 Thread Tom Lane
or packages that are purely internal to the database, but I'm not finding that to be a compelling idea. I think "name it after the upstream project" is a good enough rule. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Postgresql namespace

2010-04-23 Thread Tom Lane
ed postgresql-tcl and postgresql-python to better match their upstream project names, so I guess that's precedent for Devrim's position. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Update testing policy: how to use Bodhi

2010-03-27 Thread Tom Lane
developer, I can hardly think of a quicker way to piss me off than if every distro were to start sending me such nagmail. I would not want such a thing turned on on *any* of my packages. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.

Re: To semi-rolling or not to semi-rolling, that is the question...

2010-03-04 Thread Tom Lane
xact route to get to the end goal. You also need the resources to make it happen. A mandate from FESCO is not worth diddly-squat unless FESCO is prepared to do the work. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: FESCo wants to ban direct stable pushes in Bodhi (urgent call for feedback)

2010-02-26 Thread Tom Lane
Kevin Kofler writes: > Some situations where I and others have used direct stable pushes in the > past and where I think they're really warranted and should be used: You forgot security fixes. The proposed policy is insane. regards, tom lane -- devel m

Re: Read this if your package BuildRequires qt(4)-devel!!!

2010-02-23 Thread Tom Lane
et out), > so this particular version bump should no longer be a source of trouble. I guess I am wondering why such a change is being made in a "stable" branch in the first place. Why isn't this sort of thing strictly rawhide material? regards, tom lane --

Re: Heads up! Broken deps in Upgrade from 12 to 13

2010-02-20 Thread Tom Lane
regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Bodhi hash collision?

2010-02-19 Thread Tom Lane
Luke Macken writes: > A large number of updates currently suffer from duplicate IDs, and I > need to figure out a clever way to fix it. Would it be prudent to not push new updates until you've fixed it? regards, tom lane -- devel mailing

Broken deps reports broken?

2010-02-17 Thread Tom Lane
I just got about half a dozen "broken dependencies in devel" emails that seem to be completely wacko, as neither the dependent nor the dependee have changed lately. Something messed up in the repo maybe? regards, tom lane -- devel mailing

Re: FC12: Hidden files in /usr/bin/*

2010-01-22 Thread Tom Lane
Martin Langhoff writes: > On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Tom Lane wrote: >> The separate /lib directory tree seems the way to go, to me.  That way > /usr/share instead of /lib seems more appropriate - Hardly. Checksums on executables are going to be platform-specific. Puttin

Re: FC12: Hidden files in /usr/bin/*

2010-01-22 Thread Tom Lane
ctive, since someone who could modify the file could change the checksum too. (I'm assuming it's just a checksum and not any sort of digital signature.) The separate /lib directory tree seems the way to go, to me. That way the checksum files could be named the same as what they check,

Re: ABRT frustrating for users and developers

2010-01-17 Thread Tom Lane
ther monstrous attachment load that dumps would put on bugzilla, I think we can safely dismiss the idea. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: ABRT frustrating for users and developers

2010-01-17 Thread Tom Lane
y I think: if you get multiple reports of the same backtrace then you start to think that it's a real bug rather than bad RAM. This still does nothing for the basic problem, though, which is that a backtrace alone isn't very useful for fixing the bug. regards, tom

Re: ABRT frustrating for users and developers

2010-01-16 Thread Tom Lane
e thing just stays in NEEDINFO state. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Heads-Up: Beware of xmlCleanupParser() when your package links against libxml2

2010-01-13 Thread Tom Lane
to use xmlMemSetup() ... basically, you can't replace libxml's memory management, you just have to live with whatever it chooses to leak. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Heads-Up: Beware of xmlCleanupParser() when your package links against libxml2

2010-01-12 Thread Tom Lane
fix? There's certainly nothing in their documentation suggesting that there's such a requirement. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

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