Re: The Future of the Java Stack (also regarding ELN and RHEL)

2020-09-11 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 11:54 AM Tomasz Torcz wrote: > On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 10:16:02AM +0200, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: > > You get a side tag in Koji where you can have private build-only > > dependencies that are discarded (filtered) once they are no longer > > needed, after module build is

Re: The Future of the Java Stack (also regarding ELN and RHEL)

2020-09-10 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 5:54 PM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > On 10.09.2020 16:10, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote: > > Flatpak is way better suited for our use case and in addition gives us > > access to a way bigger install base. > &g

Re: The Future of the Java Stack (also regarding ELN and RHEL)

2020-09-10 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 4:46 PM Alexander Scheel wrote: > Hi Joe, > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 8:52 AM Joe Orton wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > I'm writing as the Red Hat engineering manager responsible for Maven and > > Ant in RHEL, and on behalf of Mikolaj Izdebski and Marian Koncek from my >

Re: The Future of the Java Stack (also regarding ELN and RHEL)

2020-09-09 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 5:33 PM Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > > On Wed, 9 Sep 2020 at 09:37, Björn Persson wrote: > >> Guido Aulisi wrote: >> > IMHO we could package only the JDK and let the user use Java software >> directly from upstream. >> > Usually upstream means Apache, which is a

Re: [fedora-java] Re: java stack is dead, long live the javastack (was "500 packages FTBFS in rawhide with java-11-openjdk as system JDK")

2020-07-01 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
; > Subject: Re: [fedora-java] Re: java stack is dead, long live the > javastack (was "500 packages FTBFS in rawhide with > > java-11-openjdk as system JDK") > > > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 3:09 PM Aleksandar Kurtakov > > wrote: > > > > > &

Re: [fedora-java] Re: java stack is dead, long live the javastack (was "500 packages FTBFS in rawhide with java-11-openjdk as system JDK")

2020-07-01 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
Fabio, does it mean that the Java SIG agrees with progressing with the Change to Java 11 as a default? On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 4:02 PM Fabio Valentini wrote: > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 9:52 AM Jiri Vanek wrote: > > > > On 6/29/20 1:59 PM, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote: > > >

Re: [fedora-java] java stack is dead, long live the javastack (was "500 packages FTBFS in rawhide with java-11-openjdk as system JDK")

2020-06-30 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 2:39 PM Jiri Vanek wrote: > Current stats from my testing samples: > 408 failing > 263 passing > > That is huge improvement. Thank you all. > I'm now running last rebuild n copr, and in week or two an mass rebuild > will be taken in koji. > > There was an discussion what

Re: [fedora-java] java stack is dead, long live the javastack (was "500 packages FTBFS in rawhide with java-11-openjdk as system JDK")

2020-06-29 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 2:39 PM Jiri Vanek wrote: > Current stats from my testing samples: > 408 failing > 263 passing > > Are these numbers reversed ^^^ ? Looking at https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/g/java-maint-sig/java-11-default/monitor/ I see a bit more than 200 ftbfs. > That is

Re: [fedora-java] 500 packages FTBFS in rawhide with java-11-openjdk as system JDK

2020-06-09 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
Hey Jiri, Please guide me how to find the actual build failure log. I tried finding the ant one but didn't succeed yet https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/jvanek/java11/package/ant/ On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 5:05 PM Jiri Vanek wrote: > > > Please see > >

Re: Re-Launching the Java SIG

2020-05-14 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 12:55 PM Michal Srb wrote: > Hello, > > On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 12:57 PM Felix Schwarz > wrote: > >> >> Am 12.05.20 um 12:32 schrieb Ty Young: >> > Right, I figured it was some Fedora policy and not up to you. I suppose >> I >> > should have been more clear there. Sorry

Re: [fedora-java] Re-Launching the Java SIG

2020-05-12 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 10:46 PM Fabio Valentini wrote: > This past weekend I finally decided to jump off the cliff and attempt > to re-launch the Java SIG. It seems there's some interest in keeping > the Java stack maintained, it's just not focused or organized right > now. > > What we did when

Re: Orphaning a few Java packages

2020-02-26 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 5:10 PM Fabio Valentini wrote: > Hi all, > > I've just orphaned a few Java packages on behalf of the Stewardship > SIG since we no longer have any use for them. > > - aalto-xml > - compress-lzf > - icu4j > ^^ Mat, should we take it or keep a huge patch removing the need

Orphaned jacoco (java code coverage library)

2020-02-20 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
I've just orphaned jacoco as I had interest in it only for eclipse-eclemma package which has been retired already. Dependencies are missing and it FTBFS in the last mass rebuild https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1799528 -- Alexander Kurtakov Red Hat Eclipse Team

Orphaned rome

2020-02-16 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
I've just orphaned rome (Java rss library). Couple of its dependencies have been removed and I don't have neither the time nor the need to maintain it anymore. -- Alexander Kurtakov Red Hat Eclipse Team ___ devel mailing list --

Re: Any plans on maintaining Apache NetBeans

2020-02-05 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
on. Also if you use other flatpaks you'll be surprised how much smaller the actual download size will be. > Also, for one, Flatpak version of Eclipse does not support built-in > support. > I'm not exactly sure what does "built-in" means here. > > On Wed, Feb 5, 2

Re: Any plans on maintaining Apache NetBeans

2020-02-05 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 6:07 AM Code Zombie wrote: > Currently at its version 11.2, Apache NetBeans is a great piece of > development software. Is Fedora considering to add it to its packages? Does > anyone already plan to maintain it or can I take it over? > We (Eclipse maintainers in Fedora)

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2019-12-12 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 7:27 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 12. 12. 19 18:03, Ben Cotton wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 9:50 AM Miro Hrončok > wrote: > >> > >> maven-verifier-plugin orphan 0 > weeks ago > > > > I adopted this package to unbreak my deps. If

Re: pdfbox and batik (was: Re: [fedora-java] What's the State of the Java SIG?)

2019-11-25 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 12:31 PM Kevin Kofler wrote: > As an example of the sorry state of the Java SIG, pdfbox and batik were > orphaned 2 weeks ago, but those are dependencies of fop, which is a > dependency of publican, which is used by appstream to build documentation, > and half of the

Re: [fedora-java] What's the State of the Java SIG?

2019-11-19 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 4:54 PM Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On Tue, 19 Nov 2019 at 09:17, Gerald Henriksen wrote: > > > > On Mon, 18 Nov 2019 21:08:02 -0800, you wrote: > > > > >On 11/18/19 7:29 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: > > >> I can't speak for everyone, but at least my experience was that it

Re: Eclipse and Fedora 31

2019-11-18 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 10:14 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 18. 11. 19 19:55, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote: > > Dear Eclipse users, > > Whoever faces issues installing Eclipse RPMs on Fedora 31 - this is > beyond us > > (Eclipse packagers) and depends on a number of bigger

Eclipse and Fedora 31

2019-11-18 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
Dear Eclipse users, Whoever faces issues installing Eclipse RPMs on Fedora 31 - this is beyond us (Eclipse packagers) and depends on a number of bigger issues in Fedora land both technical and political. Until this is fixed, you're strongly recommended to try using Eclipse from Flathub [1]. It

Re: Modularity: The Official Complaint Thread

2019-11-12 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 3:17 AM Kevin Kofler wrote: > Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote: > > So people would prefer no packages at all over packages in modules? > > I see 2 reasons so far why some packages are module-only: > 1. because a dependency of the package is module-only. Th

Re: Modularity: The Official Complaint Thread

2019-11-12 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:02 AM John M. Harris Jr wrote: > On Tuesday, November 12, 2019 9:02:07 AM MST Aleksandra Fedorova wrote: > > Again, no one forces you or any other packager to use modularity > > tooling right now. > > This is not actually the case. We have several major packages which

Re: Modularity: The Official Complaint Thread

2019-11-12 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 7:55 PM Aleksandra Fedorova wrote: > Hi, Aleksandar, > > On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 6:40 PM Aleksandar Kurtakov > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 7:31 PM Aleksandra Fedorova > wrote: > >> > >&

Re: Modularity: The Official Complaint Thread

2019-11-12 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 7:31 PM Aleksandra Fedorova wrote: > On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 5:10 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: > > > > On 12. 11. 19 17:02, Aleksandra Fedorova wrote: > > > Again, no one forces you or any other packager to use modularity > > > tooling right now. > > > > > > As Fedora

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Modules in Non-Modular Buildroot

2019-10-14 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 12:06 PM Fabio Valentini wrote: > On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 10:43 AM Aleksandar Kurtakov > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 10:13 AM John M. Harris Jr > wrote: > >> > >> On Sunday, October 13, 2019 11:42

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Modules in Non-Modular Buildroot

2019-10-14 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 10:13 AM John M. Harris Jr wrote: > On Sunday, October 13, 2019 11:42:41 PM MST Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 9:00 AM John M. Harris Jr > > > > wrote: > > > On Wednesday, October 9, 2019 1:46:52 PM MST Ben

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Modules in Non-Modular Buildroot

2019-10-14 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 9:00 AM John M. Harris Jr wrote: > On Wednesday, October 9, 2019 1:46:52 PM MST Ben Cotton wrote: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Modules_In_Non-Modular_Buildroot > > > > Enable module default streams in the buildroot repository for modular > > and non-modular

Re: Orphaned a number of Eclipse pacakges

2019-09-23 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 4:53 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 23. 09. 19 15:34, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote: > > As eclipse module is the supported way to get eclipse now... > > So why do we keep everything around in Fedora and crate this duality?oo > Good question. There

Orphaned a number of Eclipse pacakges

2019-09-23 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
As eclipse module is the supported way to get eclipse now and there are a number of FTBFS for me as a package I've just orphaned the following: * eclipse-tm-terminal * eclipse-swtbot * cbi-plugins * eclipse-dtp * eclipse-ecf * eclipse-eclemma * eclipse-egit-github * eclipse-linuxtools *

Re: Some Java packages in need of new permanent maintainer(s)

2019-09-10 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 12:23 PM Dridi Boukelmoune < dridi.boukelmo...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sun, Sep 8, 2019 at 6:51 PM Fabio Valentini > wrote: > > > > Hello packagers, > > > > The Stewardship SIG is currently providing only bare-minimum > > maintenance for some Java packages, and none of our

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change: glusterfs dropping 32-bit arches

2019-08-14 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 3:31 PM Kevin Kofler wrote: > Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote: > > The real question which every packager should ask himself is: Do I have > > the capacity (time, knowledge, hardware, etc.) to solve problems on > > non-supported architecture by upstream?

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change: glusterfs dropping 32-bit arches

2019-08-14 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 11:29 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 14. 08. 19 8:55, Frantisek Zatloukal wrote: > > It depends on package maintainer. If upstream dropped 32-bit support, > I'd stop > > building it for that arch in Fedora. > > > > Why would package maintainer have to bear the burden of

Re: Over 500 orphaned packages seeking new maintainers

2019-07-30 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 5:48 PM Alexander Scheel wrote: > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Christopher" > > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" < > devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> > > Cc: "Fabio Valentini" > > Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 6:14:57 PM > > Subject: Re: Over

Orphaning h2

2019-04-30 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
I don't need h2 package for anything and it fails to build on F30. It has 2 co-maintainers so maybe someone will pick it up. -- Alexander Kurtakov Red Hat Eclipse Team ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email

Re: [Fwd: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 2 weeks)]

2019-04-15 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 9:06 PM Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > > On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 at 13:22, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > >> On 3/19/19 11:01 AM, Stelian Iancu wrote: >> > On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 7:35 AM Emmanuel Seyman >> wrote: >> >> >> >> * Sérgio Basto [19/03/2019 00:03] : >> >>> >> >>> I

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

2019-03-12 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 1:36 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 7:29 AM Aleksandar Kurtakov > wrote: > > > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 1:17 PM Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski < > domi...@greysector.net> wrote: > >> > >> On Tuesday, 1

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

2019-03-12 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 1:17 PM Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski < domi...@greysector.net> wrote: > On Tuesday, 12 March 2019 at 12:02, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 11:49 AM Jakub Jelen wrote: > > > > > > Is there already a way to package the java application as a module or

Re: Orphaned packages that will be retired (and everything will most likely burn)

2019-02-11 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 9:51 AM Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 2/12/19 8:22 AM, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 11:19 PM Fabio Valentini > wrote: > >> I'm curious: What happens to modules when a package's master branch > >> gets retired? > > > > Nothing. Modules will continue to

Re: [fedora-java] [HEADS UP] Eclipse dropping 32-bit arches

2018-12-05 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 5:32 PM Mat Booth wrote: > The message about Ceph [1] reminded me that we should probably make the > same notification for Eclipse Platform. > > The Eclipse Platform upstream is in the process of dropping all support > for 32bit arches. > > The current state is that

Orphaning eclipse-xtext and dependencies

2018-07-10 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
eclipse-xtext and its dependencies eclipse-xpand and eclipse-emf-mwe have just been orphaned. Eclipse SIG has no use of these packages anymore (despite them being really active upstream), the build system is quite complicated and they haven't been properly kept upto date lately. -- Alexander

Orphaning not-yet-commons-ssl

2018-07-09 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
I've just orphaned not-yet-commons-ssl [1]. It is a dependency of eclipse-fedorapackager but I'm not sure how useful this dependency still is I haven't used it lately. The library has a dependency on jakarta-commons-httpclient which has been EOLed in 2011 [2] . [1]

Eclipse fedorapackager plugin and it's future

2015-10-08 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
Hi everyone, Fedorapackager eclipse plugin has been neglected for quite some time and updates are broken after the Bodhi2 update. So are there any users left? Is anyone interested in maintaining it? Enhancing it? Any feedback is more than welcome as it might be time to let it rest in peace if

Re: Removing packages that have broken dependencies in F23 tree

2015-09-26 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
e broken dependencies in F23 tree > > On 09/24/2015 07:29 PM, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote: > > IIRC, sqljet needs netbeans-platform (swing-smth to be precious from > > netbeans) for its db browser UI which is a subpackage so disabling this > > part to build (and killing t

Re: Removing packages that have broken dependencies in F23 tree

2015-09-24 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
IIRC, sqljet needs netbeans-platform (swing-smth to be precious from netbeans) for its db browser UI which is a subpackage so disabling this part to build (and killing the browser subpackage) should remove the need for netbeans platform Alexander Kurtakov Red Hat Eclipse team - Original

Re: Sponsors - who does (not) work on FE-NEEDSPONSOR tickets

2015-08-21 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
- Original Message - From: Orion Poplawski or...@cora.nwra.com To: Development discussions related to Fedora devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Friday, 21 August, 2015 1:58:35 AM Subject: Re: Sponsors - who does (not) work on FE-NEEDSPONSOR tickets On 08/20/2015 02:50 AM,

Heads up: Lucene 5.1 to land in Rawhide

2015-05-29 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
Hi everyone, I will push Lucene 5.1.0 to rawhide next week. Followed immediately by Eclipse rebuild to make it work with it. This is early enough in the F23 cycle to give time for people to port to 5.x. If someone is not able to migrate to Lucene 5 - he/she would have to submit a Lucene 4.x

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Legacy implementations of the Java platform in Fedora

2015-02-27 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
- Original Message - From: Jiri Vanek jva...@redhat.com To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 11:43:53 AM Subject: Re: F22 System Wide Change: Legacy implementations of the Java platform in Fedora On 02/26/2015 02:51 PM, Jiri Vanek wrote: On

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Legacy implementations of the Java platform in Fedora

2015-02-27 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
/27/2015 11:47 AM, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote: - Original Message - From: Jiri Vanek jva...@redhat.com To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 11:43:53 AM Subject: Re: F22 System Wide Change: Legacy implementations of the Java platform in Fedora

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Legacy implementations of the Java platform in Fedora

2015-02-27 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
- Original Message - From: Aleksandar Kurtakov akurt...@redhat.com To: Development discussions related to Fedora devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 12:58:05 PM Subject: Re: F22 System Wide Change: Legacy implementations of the Java platform

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Legacy implementations of the Java platform in Fedora

2015-02-27 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
System Wide Change: Legacy implementations of the Java platform in Fedora On 02/27/2015 12:04 PM, Andrew Haley wrote: On 02/27/2015 10:47 AM, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote: If we want to be sure that this legacy jdk will not interfere with the system JDK let it not provide anything

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Legacy implementations of the Java platform in Fedora

2015-02-26 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
- Original Message - From: Mario Torre neug...@redhat.com To: Development discussions related to Fedora devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 4:59:35 PM Subject: Re: F22 System Wide Change: Legacy implementations of the Java platform in Fedora On

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Legacy implementations of the Java platform in Fedora

2015-02-26 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
- Original Message - From: Robert Marcano rob...@marcanoonline.com To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 5:20:04 PM Subject: Re: F22 System Wide Change: Legacy implementations of the Java platform in Fedora On 02/24/2015 05:04 AM, Jaroslav

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Legacy implementations of the Java platform in Fedora

2015-02-26 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
- Original Message - From: Mikolaj Izdebski mizde...@redhat.com To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 10:16:26 AM Subject: Re: F22 System Wide Change: Legacy implementations of the Java platform in Fedora On 02/25/2015 06:58 PM, Miloslav Trmač

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Legacy implementations of the Java platform in Fedora

2015-02-26 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
- Original Message - From: Jiri Vanek jva...@redhat.com To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 10:39:35 AM Subject: Re: F22 System Wide Change: Legacy implementations of the Java platform in Fedora On 02/26/2015 09:31 AM, Aleksandar Kurtakov

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Legacy implementations of the Java platform in Fedora

2015-02-26 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
/24/2015 05:21 PM, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: On 02/24/2015 04:59 PM, Pete Travis wrote: On Feb 24, 2015 8:32 AM, Mikolaj Izdebski mizde...@redhat.com wrote: On 02/24/2015 02:17 PM, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote: I would much rather live without any legacy jdk, and if so then without any

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Legacy implementations of the Java platform in Fedora

2015-02-25 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
- Original Message - From: Mikolaj Izdebski mizde...@redhat.com To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 11:14:35 AM Subject: Re: F22 System Wide Change: Legacy implementations of the Java platform in Fedora On 02/24/2015 04:06 PM, Jiri Vanek

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Legacy implementations of the Java platform in Fedora

2015-02-24 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
- Original Message - From: Jiri Vanek jva...@redhat.com To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 3:02:38 PM Subject: Re: F22 System Wide Change: Legacy implementations of the Java platform in Fedora On 02/24/2015 01:50 PM, Dominik 'Rathann'

Re: Remove gcc, gcc-c++ and make from minimal build root

2015-01-13 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
- Original Message - From: Marian Csontos mcson...@redhat.com To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 7:52:07 PM Subject: Re: Remove gcc, gcc-c++ and make from minimal build root On 01/13/2015 06:46 PM, Vít Ondruch wrote: Dne 13.1.2015 v 18:20 Vít

Re: Ramblings and questions regarding Fedora, but stemming from gnome-software and desktop environments

2015-01-04 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
- Original Message - From: Alec Leamas leamas.a...@gmail.com To: Development discussions related to Fedora devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Saturday, January 3, 2015 10:19:30 PM Subject: Re: Ramblings and questions regarding Fedora,but stemming from gnome-software and

Re: Ramblings and questions regarding Fedora, but stemming from gnome-software and desktop environments

2015-01-03 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
- Original Message - From: Hedayat Vatankhah hedayat@gmail.com To: Development discussions related to Fedora devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Friday, January 2, 2015 11:15:58 PM Subject: Re: Ramblings and questions regarding Fedora,but stemming from gnome-software

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Elasticsearch

2014-12-17 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
Not a bundling but creating a compat packages for older version where needed. Nothing stops people from creating them now. Alexander Kurtakov Red Hat Eclipse team - Original Message - From: Josh Boyer jwbo...@fedoraproject.org To: Development discussions related to Fedora

Re: Workstation Product defaults to wide-open firewall

2014-12-08 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
- Original Message - From: Bastien Nocera bnoc...@redhat.com To: Development discussions related to Fedora devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Monday, December 8, 2014 1:22:04 PM Subject: Re: Workstation Product defaults to wide-open firewall - Original Message -

Re: Workstation Product defaults to wide-open firewall

2014-12-08 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
- Original Message - From: Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Monday, December 8, 2014 1:26:29 PM Subject: Re: Workstation Product defaults to wide-open firewall Am 08.12.2014 um 12:22 schrieb Bastien Nocera: Am 08.12.2014 um 11:45

Re: Comps change for OpenJDK 8

2014-06-24 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
In the commit I see java-1.5.0-gcj, you might want to drop it now that gcc-java is no longer built. Alexander Kurtakov Red Hat Eclipse team - Original Message - From: Omair Majid oma...@redhat.com To: fedora-devel devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 8:58:46 PM

Re: Slipping F21 (was: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2014-06-11))

2014-06-11 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
- Original Message - From: Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.com To: Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop desk...@lists.fedoraproject.org Cc: Development discussions related to Fedora devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 6:28:06 PM Subject:

Re: Slipping F21

2014-06-11 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
- Original Message - From: Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 6:44:09 PM Subject: Re: Slipping F21 Am 11.06.2014 17:41, schrieb Jiri Eischmann: +1, we've already skipped one release and we just can't delay

Orphaning piccolo2d

2014-06-09 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
I don't have the time and energy to maintain piccolo2d and it's no longer needed by my packages - thus orphaned now. Feel free to pick it up if you want to keep it in. Alexander Kurtakov Red Hat Eclipse team -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Fedora 21 Mass rebuild update

2014-06-09 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
- Original Message - From: Adam Jackson a...@redhat.com To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Monday, June 9, 2014 6:02:08 PM Subject: Re: Fedora 21 Mass rebuild update On Sat, 2014-06-07 at 08:51 -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: Hi all, We merged in the side tags on May 27,

Re: Orphaning eclipse-birt

2014-05-22 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
Deprecated now. Alexander Kurtakov Red Hat Eclipse team - Original Message - From: Aleksandar Kurtakov akurt...@redhat.com To: Development discussions related to Fedora devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 6:32:49 PM Subject: Orphaning eclipse-birt I don't

Re: Hadoop + log4j2 = fullstop

2014-05-21 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
Alexander Kurtakov Red Hat Eclipse team - Original Message - From: Robert Rati rr...@redhat.com To: Fedora Big Data SIG bigd...@lists.fedoraproject.org, Development discussions related to Fedora devel@lists.fedoraproject.org, Fedora Java Development List

Re: [fedora-java] Hadoop + log4j2 = fullstop

2014-05-21 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
- Original Message - From: Robert Rati rr...@redhat.com To: Aleksandar Kurtakov akurt...@redhat.com, Development discussions related to Fedora devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Cc: Fedora Big Data SIG bigd...@lists.fedoraproject.org, Fedora Java Development List java-de

Orphaning eclipse-birt

2014-05-15 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
I don't have the time nor to will to deal with it anymore. Master is orphan now, feel free to pick it up. If noone does it in a week I'll deprecate the package. Alexander Kurtakov Red Hat Eclipse team -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Java 8

2014-05-06 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
- Original Message - From: Aleksandar Kurtakov akurt...@redhat.com To: Deepak Bhole dbh...@redhat.com, Development discussions related to Fedora devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 3:41:30 PM Subject: Re: F21 System Wide Change: Java 8 I'm not proposing having

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Java 8

2014-05-06 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
for rhel-6 and rhel-7? As you probably have guessed I can not answer such questions. You can either speak to your TAM or wait for public announcements. Alexander Kurtakov Red Hat Eclipse team On 05/06/2014 09:50 AM, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote: One of the biggest offenders (Eclipse) is now

Re: [fedora-java] Mass-bug filing for removed OpenJDK 9 internal APIs

2014-05-06 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
- Original Message - From: Florian Weimer fwei...@redhat.com To: Development discussions related to Fedora devel@lists.fedoraproject.org, Fedora Java Development List java-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Tuesday, May 6, 2014 3:00:54 PM Subject: [fedora-java] Mass-bug filing for

Re: Self Introduction: Oden Eriksson

2014-04-07 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
Even smaller than one would think. /me joins the party :) Alexander Kurtakov Red Hat Eclipse team - Original Message - From: Oden Eriksson o...@nux.se To: Development discussions related to Fedora devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Monday, April 7, 2014 9:49:22 AM Subject: Re:

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Java 8

2014-03-26 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
would like to be able to switch over to OpenJDK8 asap for F21. 1: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/eol-135779.html Deepak -- Christopher L Tubbs II http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Aleksandar Kurtakov akurt...@redhat.com wrote: Please

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Java 8

2014-03-26 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
from the variety of build systems it becomes a huge investment of time to have Java 8 as default and keep compat with Java 7. Alexander Kurtakov Red Hat Eclipse team Deepak -- Christopher L Tubbs II http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Aleksandar

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Java 8

2014-03-25 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
Please keep java 1.7.0 around for some time. It would make moving easier if we have to jump back for a build or two. Alexander Kurtakov Red Hat Eclipse team - Original Message - From: Omair Majid oma...@redhat.com To: Development discussions related to Fedora

Re: Java headless bugs

2014-02-26 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
I'm all with you Ville. But this requires someone jumping in to do work and there is noone. We have to live in reality - noone is showing any interest into working on this :(. Alexander Kurtakov Red Hat Eclipse team - Original Message - From: Ville Skyttä ville.sky...@iki.fi To:

Re: [Fedora-packaging] May I file 1000 bugs aka upstream test suite tracking

2014-02-21 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
- Original Message - From: Alexander Todorov atodo...@redhat.com To: Discussion of RPM packaging standards and practices for Fedora packag...@lists.fedoraproject.org, Development discussions related to Fedora devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Cc: For testing and quality assurance of

Re: May I file 1000 bugs aka upstream test suite tracking

2014-02-21 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
- Original Message - From: Josh Boyer jwbo...@fedoraproject.org To: Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com, Development discussions related to Fedora devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 4:53:03 PM Subject: Re: May I file 1000 bugs aka upstream test suite

Re: Java headless bugs

2014-02-21 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
Hi Jerry, Closing as notabug is perfectly valid solution in your case. I also have a bunch of such packages myself. The thing is that there is no way for this to have been known by the automated tool thus we end up with such false positives. I have to also add that the percentage of false

Re: Auto-expiring bugs are getting absurd

2014-02-07 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
- Original Message - From: Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2014 2:21:53 PM Subject: Re: Auto-expiring bugs are getting absurd On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 14:50:59 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2014-02-05 at 22:48

Re: Another questionable dependency chain -- libreoffice-writer installs log4j-chainsaw

2014-01-30 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
- Original Message - From: Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.com To: Development discussions related to Fedora devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 12:32:57 PM Subject: Another questionable dependency chain -- libreoffice-writer installs log4j-chainsaw If

Re: Another questionable dependency chain -- libreoffice-writer installs log4j-chainsaw

2014-01-30 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
-chainsaw On 30 January 2014 11:17, Aleksandar Kurtakov akurt...@redhat.com wrote: Clarification the actual chain is java-headless-rhino-jline-jansi-hawtjni-xbean-avalon-framework-log4j Ahh, thanks for working that one out. Java isn't my area of expertise. It's time to prune such things

Re: Another questionable dependency chain -- libreoffice-writer installs log4j-chainsaw

2014-01-30 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
-chainsaw On 30 January 2014 11:17, Aleksandar Kurtakov akurt...@redhat.com wrote: Clarification the actual chain is java-headless-rhino-jline-jansi-hawtjni-xbean-avalon-framework-log4j Ahh, thanks for working that one out. Java isn't my area of expertise. It's time to prune such things

Re: Fedora.next in 2014 -- Big Picture and Themes

2014-01-26 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
- Original Message - From: Alec Leamas leamas.a...@gmail.com To: Development discussions related to Fedora devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 11:22:36 AM Subject: Re: Fedora.next in 2014 -- Big Picture and Themes On 1/25/14, Adam Williamson

Orphaning few java packages

2014-01-10 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
I'm just about to orphan few packages due to not using them and not having time to properly maintain them: * eclipse-subclipse - pretty active upstream but as I don't use it updates are delayed and I haven't tried it in months * sqljet - dependency of svnkit which was dependency(disabled now due

Re: Orphaning few java packages

2014-01-10 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
And I forgot one: * eclipse-cmakeed - haven't seen upstream release in quite sometime, seems the project is not really active anymore Alexander Kurtakov Red Hat Eclipse team - Original Message - From: Aleksandar Kurtakov akurt...@redhat.com To: Development discussions related

Re: Orphaning few java packages

2014-01-10 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
- Original Message - From: Ismael Olea ism...@olea.org To: Development discussions related to Fedora devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 11:17:17 AM Subject: Re: Orphaning few java packages On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 9:29 AM, Aleksandar Kurtakov akurt

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Headless Java

2013-11-21 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
- Original Message - From: Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 11:34:08 AM Subject: Re: F21 System Wide Change: Headless Java Am 20.11.2013 20:56, schrieb Aleksandar Kurtakov: - Original Message

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Headless Java

2013-11-20 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
I start to think this conversation goes nowhere. The whole split is superficial and most java developers are used to get full jvm if they require java. This would probably change with Java 8 introducing Profiles [1]. And any proper packaging should be modeled after this one. Inventing even more

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Headless Java

2013-11-20 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote: I start to think this conversation goes nowhere. The whole split is superficial and most java developers are used to get full jvm if they require java. This would probably change with Java 8 introducing Profiles [1]. And any proper packaging should be modeled after

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Headless Java

2013-11-20 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
- Original Message - From: Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com To: Development discussions related to Fedora devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 9:23:29 PM Subject: Re: F21 System Wide Change: Headless Java On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 08:13:02PM +0100,

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Headless Java

2013-11-20 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote: The thing is this is pointless. If the people that would do most of this auditing (Java SIG) do not agree with such scenario the result would be that old Require:java will be kept whenever full java jvm is used as this keeps compatibility, ease of cooperation

Re: OSGi 5 Implementation

2013-11-17 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
- Original Message - From: Manuel Faux manuel.f...@conf.at To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 10:50:33 AM Subject: Re: OSGi 5 Implementation On Sat, 16 Nov 2013 02:46:51 -0500 Aleksandar Kurtakov akurt...@redhat.com wrote: I didn't see

Re: OSGi 5 Implementation

2013-11-17 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
- Original Message - From: Manuel Faux manuel.f...@conf.at To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 2:40:25 PM Subject: Re: OSGi 5 Implementation On Sun, 17 Nov 2013 04:39:06 -0500 Aleksandar Kurtakov akurt...@redhat.com wrote: - Original Message

Re: OSGi 5 Implementation

2013-11-17 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
- Original Message - From: Manuel Faux manuel.f...@conf.at To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 3:33:40 PM Subject: Re: OSGi 5 Implementation On Sun, 17 Nov 2013 07:58:48 -0500 Aleksandar Kurtakov akurt...@redhat.com wrote: - Original Message

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