> "Gone in 40" _does_ technically fit into the letter of "drop by 41"... but
> maybe not the spirit?
Dropping the NM ifcfg plugin is very different from dropping the actual
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uses %{?_smp_mflags}).
In the case of ceph, it's overriding _source_payload as well, which
seems unwanted (feels like somebody just grepped and copied).
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ewed it and caught an attack (after all, in this case, part of it
was committed to git and at least one other maintainer didn't notice
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with public git that also supports tarball generation would be to have
both sources and compare. Signed sources don't help with the signer is
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> what exploits will be mitigated, in the change proposal.
It's not just Rawhide, it was changed in F39 mid-stream with the 6.7
kernel (and no notice/announcement).
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> On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 3:30 PM Chris Adams wrote:
> > Once upon a time, Major Hayden said:
> > > Stephen Gallagher pointed out that ELN doesn't have busybox, but it does
> > > have dhcpcd, and that should work fin
cpcd support.
ISC dhcpd is also EOL upstream from October 5, 2022, so making a new
dependency on it is probably not a good idea.
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> On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 09:04:53AM -0600, Chris Adams wrote:
> > Once upon a time, Richard W.M. Jones said:
> > > The authentication issue being this one:
> > >
> > > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/11733
&g
Once upon a time, Steve Dickson said:
> I had to change my /etc/krb5.conf do to
> some realm changes... and now when I
> to a kinit to FEDORAPROJECT.ORG it
> hangs for a while then errors with
There is currently a FAS outage:
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> be used with a different CPU, the initial choice would be locked in.
It's not like we haven't had this before. Yes, it was annoying, but it
wasn't THAT big of an issue.
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the numeric node ID (needed for lots of config because the cluster
system used a "single root" filesystem, where all members had access to
the shared storage and mounted the same volume as /
ly set PATH to "known" values (for
good and bad reasons) to be able to depend on extending it. Heck, it
took a long time to get sudo just to include /usr/local/{bin,sbin}.
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> "ipv6.may-fail=no") in the connection profile. That is required when
> using "auto" methods, in order to avoid the situation where the
> connection succeeds after the "other"
riggered, right? Any services that try to bind to configured IPs or
the like need to still work.
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> the default value to 3000ms.
3 seconds seems kind of high (IIRC network-scripts used 1 second).
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> I would like to go even further and also separate distribution default code
> and locally installed code in the /usr tree. OpenSuse has developed a good
> proposal for this some time ago.
More separation than /usr vs. /usr/local?
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kernel-tools-libs changed libcpupower.so.0 to libcpupower.so.1 in
6.6.2-200.fc39, which breaks mate-applets and gnome-applets.
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g. /dev/rtc) _not_ existing. That's unfortunate, that
would make it easy.
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ice depend on /dev/rtc not
existing?), as other RPi-targeted distros do. This isn't RPi-specific,
a number of the small boards have no RTC. I do typically add an RTC to
my Pis, but not always (for various reasons).
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ing to client C with a man-in-the-middle attack and a different
self-signed cert pretending to be client A.
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whether
services or sockets) were paused for a time (configurable even) and then
returned to service. AFAIK this is a flaw in general in systemd's
limits; if something exceeds them, it takes manual intervention to reset
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h systemd socket
activation in Fedora? In fact, xinetd was orphaned and retired, so the
only way to have that kind of functionality in Fedora is through
systemd, so systemd needs to support the same functionality.
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> On 04. 08. 23 14:45, Chris Adams wrote:
> >Could the repo config be removed by having fedora-repos Obsolete:
> >fedora-repos-moduler <= 39?
>
> That has already been done. But when the upgrade happens, the repo
> config is
ar installed, they will hit fatal
> errors that will probably look like this:
Could the repo config be removed by having fedora-repos Obsolete:
fedora-repos-moduler <= 39?
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isn't a high priority though, because very few things
support inetd-type modes anymore.
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Edge updates into LVFS? :)
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less on desktops
> since no motherboard vendors support it.
It also works on Dell and I think HP desktops... which represent a
significant chunk of the desktop PC market.
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most 32-bit applications compiled with LFS? It looks like
anything with _GNU_SOURCE will get it, and IIRC that's not uncommon.
I'm curious how many 32-bit binaries are looking at inode numbers and
are NOT already LFS compatible.
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functionality planned, just bug/security fixes), CentOS Stream 9 will
stop altogether.
And Fedora ELN is aimed at CentOS Stream 10, which will eventually be
used to make RHEL 10.0, so is not useful for replicating RHEL 9.x
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> Shouldn't blue be the default for Fedora?
Blue is probably a bad idea in a prompt, as the human eye doesn't
perceive blue as strongly as green. The prompt isn't about art/style,
it's purely about functionality.
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or their office needs, enough that even where Windows is the
predominant desktop OS, they don't get MS Office licenses either. They
don't have to worry about local backups of important documents and
spreadsheets, they get sharing with minimal effort, they can access
th
completely remove tzdata. We
> appreciated this input and welcome additional feedback.
It would be nice to know the reasons behind the recommendation. It
seems trying to eliminate tzdata completely is going to require a
significant amount of work and package churn, so why is this the better
s user adoption process, we are targeting Fedora
> Workstation only.
One thing not mentioned: what does this do to the install image size,
especially for network booting?
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t if I want to
install it on a group of systems, managed with Ansible for example, no,
that's not really enough (unless I have my own repo infrastructure).
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> https://kojihub.stream.centos.org/koji/taginfo?tagID=2
That's not available as a repo though AFAIK.
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n a timely manner? With 7 there's the fasttrack repo,
but it doesn't actually seem to be used currently (and IIRC wasn't ever
a "testing" type channel).
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't get a corresponding update for quite a while. If
Stream doesn't get security updates in a timely fashion, it is not at
all suitable for production use.
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n that this makes a difference.
>
> And in particular in the initrd, they are just not neeed.
Just checking one thing, NFS uses getservbyname, so they are needed, and
needed in the initrd for NFS root.
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> On Thu, Jun 08, 2023 at 11:37:47AM -0500, Chris Adams wrote:
> > Where is the proper place to request something be added to the install
> > image? I was going to file a BZ but wasn't sure of the proper
> > component.
> >
&
Once upon a time, Adam Williamson said:
> On Thu, 2023-06-08 at 11:37 -0500, Chris Adams wrote:
> > Where is the proper place to request something be added to the install
> > image? I was going to file a BZ but wasn't sure of the proper
> > component.
> >
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it, so I needed to do that before installing Fedora (or have
to install, change, then reinstall). It would be much more convenient
to be able to boot into rescue mode to do this.
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> > It's layered, but from what I understand, an upper layer depends on a
> > specific build of a lower layer. So using the up-thread example, if
> > there's a security update to
the up-thread example, if
there's a security update to zlib, the lower layer can rebuild to pick
it up, but until the upper layer (like say LO) also rebuilds on top of
the new lower layer, they'll be running on the old version.
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shim-unsigned-aarch64 SRPMs along side the shim SRPM with the signed
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EPEL builds, but I personally feel it would be more acceptable to build
Fedora packages on Fedora.
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es "latest live EPEL" mean - how is 8 the latest?
I guess basically, can you further explain/clarify exactly which
versions of what OS which JDKs will be built on, and when those versions
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> * Chris Adams:
>
> > Once upon a time, Richard W.M. Jones said:
> >> It seems as if the ISC dhcp package has been EOL'd upstream:
> >>
> >> https://www.isc.org/dhcp/
> >
> > I'm a little surprised that
Once upon a time, Richard W.M. Jones said:
> It seems as if the ISC dhcp package has been EOL'd upstream:
>
> https://www.isc.org/dhcp/
I'm a little surprised that nobody has forked this to continue
maintaining it. dhcpd is widely used, and kea is far from a drop-in
replacement.
plicit Provides:), although
that restriction is a SHOULD, not MUST. So unless that's changing, dnf5
needs to still be able to download the filelists repodata.
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are wrapped in a test like:
if [ "$PS1" ]; then
fi
PS1 is not set on a non-interactive shell (no TTY assign), so don't do
anything to manipulate it if it isn't already set to something.
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on every prompt though; when a system is slow or having problems, those
can kill any chance at recovery or even troubleshooting.
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ot;echo $?" (which succeeded). Just reading the variable does not reset it.
$ false
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m support IMHO, not more.
No more complex filesystems; keep /boot something simple like ext2 that
GRUB2 can reasonably be expected to handle basically 100%, possibly
mounted read-only during normal operation, mount with "sync", and with
all updates as atomic as practica
Once upon a time, Daniel P. Berrangé said:
> If the idea to allow a UKI to contain multiple alternate, signed,
> cmdline line profiles gets accepted
Are those of us who need boot-time kernel options (e.g. for hardware
workarounds or such) just screwed in the signed command-line cases?
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Once upon a time, Kevin Kofler said:
> Chris Adams wrote:
> > I updated the source of a package of mine last night. The upstream is
> > on Github, and I use the %forgemeta macro for an easy spec file. When I
> > tried to run "fedpkg build" though, it failed
e date from the file... I'm wondering if something else is
actually setting the "date" macro first (the Lua support code only sets
it if is isn't already set), and using some different logic that may be
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but it accidentally is local time? That seems
rather unlikely, but wondered if somebody might could check.
For now, I just explicitly defined the date string to use, and that
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blog or such, and probably could use
some review once I do write something... is there a good Fedora-provided
place to do something like that?
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more "is MATE a viable desktop to use with Fedora?" question.
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embedded platform. If this is a good change with
no downsides, then how about going "upstream first" and getting the
change into the Linux kernel?
If this is just for Steam games, then how about seeing if the RPMFusion
Steam package can include this as a sysctl.d drop-i
Once upon a time, Matthew Miller said:
> On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 11:07:16AM -0500, Chris Adams wrote:
> > Once upon a time, Matthew Miller said:
> > > * also, to fix typos :)
> >
> > So, I will say this is kind of a peeve of mine about server-based
> > discu
on a server, the server owner has
an editorial control that can be problematic.
Fixing typos sounds nice, but... just don't make typos, or proofread. :)
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> > I have seen this
> > done multiple times over the years, tried to follow a few times, and
> > always dropped off fairly rapidly. I'm solidly in the "e
s and archive them. For example, I can in
seconds tell you when my first post here was (January 2010 in the
current incarnation, September 2003 on the @redhat.com version), or even
my first post to any @redhat.com list (wow, June 1996!).
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back, now I'm pretty much too far behind to ever catch up.
I guess you're hoping for enough overlap between email and web forum
users to keep an active developer community... I wish you luck with
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rry Pi). It's not a matter
of "afford" so much as there are hobbyist hardware projects and such
that fit the SBC form rather than desktop/server form, and x86 has
proved too expensive for that market (and failed just about every time
it is tried).
Once upon a time, Sérgio Basto said:
> On Tue, 2023-04-11 at 12:18 -0500, Chris Adams wrote:
> > This is already in the default /etc/bashrc, at least on Fedora 37 on
> > CentOS 7 (systems at hand I checked).
>
> yes and Centos 7 means all Fedora since a long time ...
Speci
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> wrote:
> >I wouldn't do that part; that's additional disk I/O for every prompt.
> >Especially when the system might be having issues, users (especially
> >root) don't ne
sta-hang at the slightest issue.
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not aware of any push to
deprecate SHA-256. Even the alternative to RSA certs, ECDSA, is still
signed with SHA-256.
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things like Flatpaks.
Before going too deep into multi-level architectures, that should be
taken into account.
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This list is for development of Fedora releases, not bug reporting. If
you don't want to follow the Fedora bug-reporting methods (such as
making a Bugzilla account), this list is not a replacement for them.
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e gone).
> Cons:
Wouldn't it also increase the repodata size significantly, which is
already a problem for dnf resource usage, especially on small devices
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e against a decision you don't agree with?
You're just "guessing" with zero evidence.
If you look at the bugs, they date back well before the mass rebuild, so
there's no justification to guess it's the frame pointer change.
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go making a package and submitting a new package ticket, any
suggestions about that?
https://github.com/cmadamsgit/nagios-plugins-cmadams
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nf say
"a-ha, I have this group installed, I need to add this package"?
If not... would that be desirable behavior?
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h firewalld or the newer nftables, but old
iptables could set rules based on user ID. I'd expect nftables also
implemented that, and firewalld could handle it in some fashion
(possibly a rich rule). With that, you could limit HTTP access to root
(I think cups runs as
cope
beyond "things that can't be in Fedora for legal/policy reasons".
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