Re: network service removed in Fedora 40 without a Change proposal(?)

2024-04-13 Thread Chris Adams
> "Gone in 40" _does_ technically fit into the letter of "drop by 41"... but > maybe not the spirit? Dropping the NM ifcfg plugin is very different from dropping the actual old network scripts. -- Chris Adams -- ___ devel ma

Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-04-12 Thread Chris Adams
de on the first device), so that's hardly a "ludicrous" method. -- Chris Adams -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs

Re: Switching XZ for ZSTD?

2024-04-04 Thread Chris Adams
(to go along with how make_build already uses %{?_smp_mflags}). In the case of ceph, it's overriding _source_payload as well, which seems unwanted (feels like somebody just grepped and copied). -- Chris Adams -- ___ devel mailing list --

Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-04-01 Thread Chris Adams
un or wholesale changes to configuration seem to not be all that useful. However, it's a good trigger to review Fedora's security approach in general (like 2FA use). -- Chris Adams -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscrib

Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-03-30 Thread Chris Adams
be run when available in the Fedora environment. -- Chris Adams -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/p

Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-03-30 Thread Chris Adams
should match. -- Chris Adams -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guid

Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-03-30 Thread Chris Adams
ewed it and caught an attack (after all, in this case, part of it was committed to git and at least one other maintainer didn't notice anything odd). -- Chris Adams -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an

Re: xz backdoor

2024-03-29 Thread Chris Adams
linked into a whole lot of key programs. -- Chris Adams -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/

Re: xz backdoor

2024-03-29 Thread Chris Adams
n using release tarballs for projects with public git that also supports tarball generation would be to have both sources and compare. Signed sources don't help with the signer is the problem. -- Chris Adams -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedorapr

Re: dmesg restricted to root in Rawhide

2024-02-27 Thread Chris Adams
curity can give us some more details of precisely > what exploits will be mitigated, in the change proposal. It's not just Rawhide, it was changed in F39 mid-stream with the 6.7 kernel (and no notice/announcement). -- Chris Adams -- ___ devel

Re: F40 Change Proposal: F40 Change Proposal: Unify /usr/bin and /usr/sbin (System-Wide)

2024-02-23 Thread Chris Adams
curity. sudo _can_ be configured insecurely, but that's a function of who configures it and how, not the tool itself. You could also make su insecure with bad configuration. -- Chris Adams -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsu

Re: cloud-init switching to udhcpc

2024-02-06 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Stephen Gallagher said: > On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 3:30 PM Chris Adams wrote: > > Once upon a time, Major Hayden said: > > > Stephen Gallagher pointed out that ELN doesn't have busybox, but it does > > > have dhcpcd, and that should work fin

Re: cloud-init switching to udhcpc

2024-02-06 Thread Chris Adams
cpcd support. ISC dhcpd is also EOL upstream from October 5, 2022, so making a new dependency on it is probably not a good idea. -- Chris Adams -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email

Re: FAS issue (was Re: Another mass rebuild blocker: glibc qsort regression)

2024-01-23 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, kevin said: > On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 09:04:53AM -0600, Chris Adams wrote: > > Once upon a time, Richard W.M. Jones said: > > > The authentication issue being this one: > > > > > > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/11733 &g

Re: Lost KDC for FEDORAPROJECT.ORG realm

2024-01-23 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Steve Dickson said: > I had to change my /etc/krb5.conf do to > some realm changes... and now when I > to a kinit to FEDORAPROJECT.ORG it > hangs for a while then errors with There is currently a FAS outage: https://status.fedoraproject.org/ --

FAS issue (was Re: Another mass rebuild blocker: glibc qsort regression)

2024-01-23 Thread Chris Adams
or later, we all do something that breaks in wildly unexpected ways), but so we can all learn from the mistake. -- Chris Adams -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.o

Re: F40 Change Proposal: Optimized Binaries for the AMD64 Architecture (System-Wide)

2023-12-29 Thread Chris Adams
ld never > be used with a different CPU, the initial choice would be locked in. It's not like we haven't had this before. Yes, it was annoying, but it wasn't THAT big of an issue. -- Chris Adams -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.or

Re: F40 Change Proposal: Optimized Binaries for the AMD64 Architecture (System-Wide)

2023-12-29 Thread Chris Adams
g '/{memb}/' were expanded to '/memberX/' where X was the numeric node ID (needed for lots of config because the cluster system used a "single root" filesystem, where all members had access to the shared storage and mounted the same volume as /

Re: F40 Change Proposal: Optimized Binaries for the AMD64 Architecture (System-Wide)

2023-12-28 Thread Chris Adams
ly set PATH to "known" values (for good and bad reasons) to be able to depend on extending it. Heck, it took a long time to get sudo just to include /usr/local/{bin,sbin}. -- Chris Adams -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.f

Re: F40 Change Proposal: Enable IPv4 Address Conflict Detection (Self-Contained)

2023-12-27 Thread Chris Adams
4.may-fail=no" (or for IPv6 addresses, > "ipv6.may-fail=no") in the connection profile. That is required when > using "auto" methods, in order to avoid the situation where the > connection succeeds after the "other"

Re: F40 Change Proposal: Enable IPv4 Address Conflict Detection (Self-Contained)

2023-12-21 Thread Chris Adams
riggered, right? Any services that try to bind to configured IPs or the like need to still work. -- Chris Adams -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedorapro

Re: F40 Change Proposal: Enable IPv4 Address Conflict Detection (Self-Contained)

2023-12-20 Thread Chris Adams
nge aims at enabling ACD by default in Fedora 40, by setting > the default value to 3000ms. 3 seconds seems kind of high (IIRC network-scripts used 1 second). -- Chris Adams -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscrib

Re: goal: booting with an empty /etc

2023-12-11 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Peter Boy said: > I would like to go even further and also separate distribution default code > and locally installed code in the /usr tree. OpenSuse has developed a good > proposal for this some time ago. More separation than /usr vs. /usr/local? -- Ch

Package some perl modules (to really get one)

2023-12-08 Thread Chris Adams
-Net-Async-SOCKS-0.003-1.fc39 perl-Net-Async-WebSocket-0.13-1.fc39 perl-Net-DNS-Paranoid-0.08-1.fc39 perl-Object-Import-1.005-1.fc39 perl-Protocol-SOCKS-0.003-1.fc39 perl-Test-HTTP-LocalServer-0.75-1.fc39 perl-WWW-Mechanize-Chrome-0.72-1.fc39 -- Chris Adams

Re: F40 Change Proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase Two (System-Wide)

2023-12-05 Thread Chris Adams
kernel command-line options? -- Chris Adams -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct

Unannounced soname bump in F39 updates-testing kernel-tools-libs

2023-11-26 Thread Chris Adams
kernel-tools-libs changed libcpupower.so.0 to libcpupower.so.1 in 6.6.2-200.fc39, which breaks mate-applets and gnome-applets. -- Chris Adams -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le

Re: Fedora Linux 39 Final blocker status summary #3

2023-10-21 Thread Chris Adams
g. /dev/rtc) _not_ existing. That's unfortunate, that would make it easy. -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fe

Re: Fedora Linux 39 Final blocker status summary #3

2023-10-20 Thread Chris Adams
ice depend on /dev/rtc not existing?), as other RPi-targeted distros do. This isn't RPi-specific, a number of the small boards have no RTC. I do typically add an RTC to my Pis, but not always (for various reasons). -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing l

Re: The new Change discussion process is painful

2023-09-13 Thread Chris Adams
to keep re-litigating decisions that some people don't agree with? -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.o

Re: Adding Passim as a Fedora 40 feature?

2023-08-30 Thread Chris Adams
ncrypt is not an option. -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guid

Re: Adding Passim as a Fedora 40 feature?

2023-08-28 Thread Chris Adams
ing to client C with a man-in-the-middle attack and a different self-signed cert pretending to be client A. -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of

Re: Dropping of sshd.socket unit

2023-08-17 Thread Chris Adams
whether services or sockets) were paused for a time (configurable even) and then returned to service. AFAIK this is a flaw in general in systemd's limits; if something exceeds them, it takes manual intervention to reset them. -- Chris Adams ___ devel maili

Re: Dropping of sshd.socket unit

2023-08-04 Thread Chris Adams
h systemd socket activation in Fedora? In fact, xinetd was orphaned and retired, so the only way to have that kind of functionality in Fedora is through systemd, so systemd needs to support the same functionality. -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list

Re: Removal of Modular repos broke upgrades to Fedora 39: What now?

2023-08-04 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Miro Hrončok said: > On 04. 08. 23 14:45, Chris Adams wrote: > >Could the repo config be removed by having fedora-repos Obsolete: > >fedora-repos-moduler <= 39? > > That has already been done. But when the upgrade happens, the repo > config is

Re: Removal of Modular repos broke upgrades to Fedora 39: What now?

2023-08-04 Thread Chris Adams
ar installed, they will hit fatal > errors that will probably look like this: Could the repo config be removed by having fedora-repos Obsolete: fedora-repos-moduler <= 39? -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubsc

Re: Dropping of sshd.socket unit

2023-08-04 Thread Chris Adams
isn't a high priority though, because very few things support inetd-type modes anymore. -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Co

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Enable fwupd-refresh.timer by default on IoT, CoreOS & Server Editions (Self-Contained)

2023-07-26 Thread Chris Adams
Edge updates into LVFS? :) -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Enable fwupd-refresh.timer by default on IoT, CoreOS & Server Editions (Self-Contained)

2023-07-26 Thread Chris Adams
less on desktops > since no motherboard vendors support it. It also works on Dell and I think HP desktops... which represent a significant chunk of the desktop PC market. -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscrib

Re: btrfs loses 32-bit application compatibility after a while

2023-07-14 Thread Chris Adams
most 32-bit applications compiled with LFS? It looks like anything with _GNU_SOURCE will get it, and IIRC that's not uncommon. I'm curious how many 32-bit binaries are looking at inode numbers and are NOT already LFS compatible. -- Chris Adams ___ devel

Re: RFC: Roadmap for DNF5 in Fedora 39 / invoking the Contingency Mechanism

2023-07-13 Thread Chris Adams
es of repos, so that missing is a problem for me. -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/p

Re: CentOS Stream, RHEL, and Fedora [was Re: What is Fedora?]

2023-07-11 Thread Chris Adams
functionality planned, just bug/security fixes), CentOS Stream 9 will stop altogether. And Fedora ELN is aimed at CentOS Stream 10, which will eventually be used to make RHEL 10.0, so is not useful for replicating RHEL 9.x updates. -- Chris Adams ___

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Color Bash Prompt (System Wide)

2023-07-07 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Vít Ondruch said: > Shouldn't blue be the default for Fedora? Blue is probably a bad idea in a prompt, as the human eye doesn't perceive blue as strongly as green. The prompt isn't about art/style, it's purely about functionality. -- Chris Ad

Re: Orphaning packages (was LibreOffice packages)

2023-07-01 Thread Chris Adams
or their office needs, enough that even where Windows is the predominant desktop OS, they don't get MS Office licenses either. They don't have to worry about local backups of important documents and spreadsheets, they get sharing with minimal effort, they can access th

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Allow Removal of tzdata (System-Wide)

2023-06-30 Thread Chris Adams
completely remove tzdata. We > appreciated this input and welcome additional feedback. It would be nice to know the reasons behind the recommendation. It seems trying to eliminate tzdata completely is going to require a significant amount of work and package churn, so why is this the better

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Anaconda WebUI for Fedora Workstation by default (System-Wide)

2023-06-26 Thread Chris Adams
s user adoption process, we are targeting Fedora > Workstation only. One thing not mentioned: what does this do to the install image size, especially for network booting? -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org T

Re: CentOS Stream, RHEL, and Fedora [was Re: What is Fedora?]

2023-06-24 Thread Chris Adams
t if I want to install it on a group of systems, managed with Ansible for example, no, that's not really enough (unless I have my own repo infrastructure). -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an

Re: CentOS Stream, RHEL, and Fedora [was Re: What is Fedora?]

2023-06-24 Thread Chris Adams
gt; > https://kojihub.stream.centos.org/koji/taginfo?tagID=2 That's not available as a repo though AFAIK. -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of

Re: CentOS Stream, RHEL, and Fedora [was Re: What is Fedora?]

2023-06-24 Thread Chris Adams
n a timely manner? With 7 there's the fasttrack repo, but it doesn't actually seem to be used currently (and IIRC wasn't ever a "testing" type channel). -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubsc

Re: CentOS Stream, RHEL, and Fedora [was Re: What is Fedora?]

2023-06-24 Thread Chris Adams
't get a corresponding update for quite a while. If Stream doesn't get security updates in a timely fashion, it is not at all suitable for production use. -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to de

Re: Towards enabling rpm sysusers integration

2023-06-23 Thread Chris Adams
n that this makes a difference. > > And in particular in the initrd, they are just not neeed. Just checking one thing, NFS uses getservbyname, so they are needed, and needed in the initrd for NFS root. -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.f

Re: Towards enabling rpm sysusers integration

2023-06-22 Thread Chris Adams
else providing that information. -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Gu

Re: Requesting an addition to the install image

2023-06-08 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Tomasz Torcz said: > On Thu, Jun 08, 2023 at 11:37:47AM -0500, Chris Adams wrote: > > Where is the proper place to request something be added to the install > > image? I was going to file a BZ but wasn't sure of the proper > > component. > > &

Re: Requesting an addition to the install image

2023-06-08 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Adam Williamson said: > On Thu, 2023-06-08 at 11:37 -0500, Chris Adams wrote: > > Where is the proper place to request something be added to the install > > image? I was going to file a BZ but wasn't sure of the proper > > component. > > &

Requesting an addition to the install image

2023-06-08 Thread Chris Adams
it, so I needed to do that before installing Fedora (or have to install, change, then reinstall). It would be much more convenient to be able to boot into rescue mode to do this. -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Issue with Rawhide docker image?

2023-06-06 Thread Chris Adams
kerhub? -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines:

Re: LibreOffice packages

2023-06-05 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Adam Williamson said: > On Mon, 2023-06-05 at 13:05 -0500, Chris Adams wrote: > > It's layered, but from what I understand, an upper layer depends on a > > specific build of a lower layer. So using the up-thread example, if > > there's a security update to

Re: LibreOffice packages

2023-06-05 Thread Chris Adams
the up-thread example, if there's a security update to zlib, the lower layer can rebuild to pick it up, but until the upper layer (like say LO) also rebuilds on top of the new lower layer, they'll be running on the old version. -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailin

Re: Are we ready for ipv6-mostly networks?

2023-06-05 Thread Chris Adams
ou shouldn't) like Google's 8.8.8.8, the shortest addresses on the Internet are 2a09:: and 2a11:: (shorter than any possible v4 address). -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.f

Re: Managing multiple cross-dependent patches

2023-06-02 Thread Chris Adams
xes. Has there been an attempt to upstream some of this? -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Build JDKs once, repack everywhere (System-Wide Change)

2023-05-31 Thread Chris Adams
th shim-unsigned-x64 and shim-unsigned-aarch64 SRPMs along side the shim SRPM with the signed binaries). -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproj

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Build JDKs once, repack everywhere (System-Wide Change)

2023-05-31 Thread Chris Adams
onment). That's okay for EPEL builds, but I personally feel it would be more acceptable to build Fedora packages on Fedora. -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedo

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Build JDKs once, repack everywhere (System-Wide Change)

2023-05-31 Thread Chris Adams
es "latest live EPEL" mean - how is 8 the latest? I guess basically, can you further explain/clarify exactly which versions of what OS which JDKs will be built on, and when those versions will change. -- Chris Adams ___ de

Re: Plans for dhclient / ISC dhcp?

2023-05-30 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Florian Weimer said: > * Chris Adams: > > > Once upon a time, Richard W.M. Jones said: > >> It seems as if the ISC dhcp package has been EOL'd upstream: > >> > >> https://www.isc.org/dhcp/ > > > > I'm a little surprised that

Re: Plans for dhclient / ISC dhcp?

2023-05-30 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Richard W.M. Jones said: > It seems as if the ISC dhcp package has been EOL'd upstream: > > https://www.isc.org/dhcp/ I'm a little surprised that nobody has forked this to continue maintaining it. dhcpd is widely used, and kea is far from a drop-in replacement.

Re: dnf5 and file level provides

2023-05-25 Thread Chris Adams
plicit Provides:), although that restriction is a SHOULD, not MUST. So unless that's changing, dnf5 needs to still be able to download the filelists repodata. -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an

Re: more distinct default bash prompt?

2023-05-23 Thread Chris Adams
are wrapped in a test like: if [ "$PS1" ]; then fi PS1 is not set on a non-interactive shell (no TTY assign), so don't do anything to manipulate it if it isn't already set to something. -- Chris Adams ___ devel

Re: more distinct default bash prompt?

2023-05-23 Thread Chris Adams
d set PROMPT_DIRTRIM=4. -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/

Re: more distinct default bash prompt?

2023-05-22 Thread Chris Adams
nal commands on every prompt though; when a system is slow or having problems, those can kill any chance at recovery or even troubleshooting. -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel

Re: more distinct default bash prompt?

2023-05-22 Thread Chris Adams
ot;echo $?" (which succeeded). Just reading the variable does not reset it. $ false $ echo $? $? 1 1 -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedorap

Re: more distinct default bash prompt?

2023-05-22 Thread Chris Adams
rompt basically ever IIRC (and I started with Red Hat with RHL 3.0.3, long before RHEL or Fedora). -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Co

Re: F39 proposal: BiggerESP (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2023-05-10 Thread Chris Adams
m support IMHO, not more. No more complex filesystems; keep /boot something simple like ext2 that GRUB2 can reasonably be expected to handle basically 100%, possibly mounted read-only during normal operation, mount with "sync", and with all updates as atomic as practica

Re: F39 proposal: BiggerESP (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2023-05-10 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Daniel P. Berrangé said: > If the idea to allow a UKI to contain multiple alternate, signed, > cmdline line profiles gets accepted Are those of us who need boot-time kernel options (e.g. for hardware workarounds or such) just screwed in the signed command-line cases? --

Re: F39 proposal: BiggerESP (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2023-05-09 Thread Chris Adams
l the GPU firmware from the image? -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-cond

Re: Build system clocks?

2023-05-07 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Kevin Kofler said: > Chris Adams wrote: > > I updated the source of a package of mine last night. The upstream is > > on Github, and I use the %forgemeta macro for an easy spec file. When I > > tried to run "fedpkg build" though, it failed

Re: Build system clocks?

2023-05-07 Thread Chris Adams
e date from the file... I'm wondering if something else is actually setting the "date" macro first (the Lua support code only sets it if is isn't already set), and using some different logic that may be missing UTC for example. -- Chris Adams _

Build system clocks?

2023-05-07 Thread Chris Adams
but it accidentally is local time? That seems rather unlikely, but wondered if somebody might could check. For now, I just explicitly defined the date string to use, and that worked, but it's still weird. -- Chris Adams ___ devel m

Place to write something up

2023-05-03 Thread Chris Adams
blog or such, and probably could use some review once I do write something... is there a good Fedora-provided place to do something like that? -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le

Re: MATE Desktop support?

2023-04-29 Thread Chris Adams
n just figure out my particular issues with MATE... :) -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org

MATE Desktop support?

2023-04-29 Thread Chris Adams
on, etc.); this is more "is MATE a viable desktop to use with Fedora?" question. -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Condu

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-26 Thread Chris Adams
way, and to something where you'll be making more individual decisions. -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: ht

Re: F39 proposal: Increase vm.max_map_count value (System-Wide Change proposal)

2023-04-24 Thread Chris Adams
embedded platform. If this is a good change with no downsides, then how about going "upstream first" and getting the change into the Linux kernel? If this is just for Steam games, then how about seeing if the RPMFusion Steam package can include this as a sysctl.d drop-i

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-21 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Matthew Miller said: > On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 11:07:16AM -0500, Chris Adams wrote: > > Once upon a time, Matthew Miller said: > > > * also, to fix typos :) > > > > So, I will say this is kind of a peeve of mine about server-based > > discu

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-21 Thread Chris Adams
on a server, the server owner has an editorial control that can be problematic. Fixing typos sounds nice, but... just don't make typos, or proofread. :) -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsu

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-21 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Matthew Miller said: > On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 08:24:48PM -0500, Chris Adams wrote: > > I have seen this > > done multiple times over the years, tried to follow a few times, and > > always dropped off fairly rapidly. I'm solidly in the "e

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-21 Thread Chris Adams
s and archive them. For example, I can in seconds tell you when my first post here was (January 2010 in the current incarnation, September 2003 on the @redhat.com version), or even my first post to any @redhat.com list (wow, June 1996!). -- Chris Adams

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-20 Thread Chris Adams
come back, now I'm pretty much too far behind to ever catch up. I guess you're hoping for enough overlap between email and web forum users to keep an active developer community... I wish you luck with that. -- Chris Adams ___ devel ma

Re: subarchitectures and RISC-V, was Re: F39 proposal: RPM 4.19 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2023-04-15 Thread Chris Adams
rry Pi). It's not a matter of "afford" so much as there are hobbyist hardware projects and such that fit the SBC form rather than desktop/server form, and x86 has proved too expensive for that market (and failed just about every time it is tried).

Re: default bash history (non)preservation

2023-04-12 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Sérgio Basto said: > On Tue, 2023-04-11 at 12:18 -0500, Chris Adams wrote: > > This is already in the default /etc/bashrc, at least on Fedora 37 on > > CentOS 7 (systems at hand I checked). > > yes and Centos 7 means all Fedora since a long time ... Speci

Re: default bash history (non)preservation

2023-04-11 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Michael Catanzaro said: > On Tue, Apr 11 2023 at 12:18:58 PM -0500, Chris Adams > wrote: > >I wouldn't do that part; that's additional disk I/O for every prompt. > >Especially when the system might be having issues, users (especially > >root) don't ne

Re: default bash history (non)preservation

2023-04-11 Thread Chris Adams
sta-hang at the slightest issue. -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of

Re: F38 DNF/RPM install errors due to header signatures

2023-04-10 Thread Chris Adams
not aware of any push to deprecate SHA-256. Even the alternative to RSA certs, ECDSA, is still signed with SHA-256. -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.o

Re: F39 proposal: RPM 4.19 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2023-04-04 Thread Chris Adams
things like Flatpaks. Before going too deep into multi-level architectures, that should be taken into account. -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: CentOS8/RHEL8/Fedora: dependency control: make gcc-c++ provide g++,required for pulseaudio.

2023-03-26 Thread Chris Adams
g/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines This list is for development of Fedora releases, not bug reporting. If you don't want to follow the Fedora bug-reporting methods (such as making a Bugzilla account), this list is not a replacement for them. -- Chris Adams ___

Re: Proposal: drop delta rpms (for real this time)

2023-02-24 Thread Chris Adams
they're just different polices. -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/

Re: Proposal: drop delta rpms (for real this time)

2023-02-22 Thread Chris Adams
e gone). > Cons: Wouldn't it also increase the repodata size significantly, which is already a problem for dnf resource usage, especially on small devices like Raspberry Pi? -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubsc

Re: Fedora Linux 38 blocker status summary

2023-02-11 Thread Chris Adams
e against a decision you don't agree with? You're just "guessing" with zero evidence. If you look at the bugs, they date back well before the mass rebuild, so there's no justification to guess it's the frame pointer change. -- Chris Adams _

Package naming suggestion?

2023-02-07 Thread Chris Adams
go making a package and submitting a new package ticket, any suggestions about that? https://github.com/cmadamsgit/nagios-plugins-cmadams -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email t

Re: What should we do about "shopping list" groups in comps?

2023-02-01 Thread Chris Adams
nf say "a-ha, I have this group installed, I need to add this package"? If not... would that be desirable behavior? -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedo

Re: F38 proposal: IPP-USB as a weak dependency of CUPS and sane-airscan (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2023-01-13 Thread Chris Adams
h firewalld or the newer nftables, but old iptables could set rules based on user ID. I'd expect nftables also implemented that, and firewalld could handle it in some fashion (possibly a rich rule). With that, you could limit HTTP access to root (I think cups runs as

Re: F38 proposal: Unfiltered Flathub (System-Wide Change proposal)

2023-01-11 Thread Chris Adams
cope beyond "things that can't be in Fedora for legal/policy reasons". -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fe

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