Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (~400 during this week)

2019-09-09 Thread David Sommerseth
ect.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life [...snip...] > dsommers: python-which This surprises me quite a lot. I have never been a package maintainer for this package. -- kind regards, David Sommerseth ___ devel mailin

Re: RFC: Drop lz4-static

2019-08-15 Thread David Sommerseth
On 14/08/2019 23:08, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: >>>>>> "DS" == David Sommerseth writes: > > DS> As I can see it, there is little benefit of removing lz4-static. > > Isn't that entirely the decision of those maintaining the package? It's > stil

Re: RFC: Drop lz4-static

2019-08-14 Thread David Sommerseth
t this is the static library is built by default, it is a tiny library which is really fast to build and the built binaries are less than a few megabytes all together. As I can see it, there is little benefit of removing lz4-static. But I might overlook something. -- kin

Re: Why retire Python 2 packages and games that still work to end user ?

2019-08-14 Thread David Sommerseth
On 14/08/2019 15:01, Kevin Kofler wrote: > David Sommerseth wrote: >> Like it or not, Python 2 is going to die: >> <https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0373/> >> >> Python 2 will not be maintained by upstream after January 1, 2020. Python >> 2 will go EOL du

Re: Why retire Python 2 packages and games that still work to end user ?

2019-08-14 Thread David Sommerseth
o a move, it is possible to do such a change in 4 years. Time has run up. It is time to move on and accept the fate of Python 2 packages not being ready. Those caring so much for unported Python 2 packages now got a brilliant chance to help moving them forward to Python 3 too. -- k

OpenVPN 3 Linux client - v5 beta release

2019-04-08 Thread David Sommerseth
way by using all the various D-Bus interfaces being exposed by the OpenVPN 3 Linux services. Please get in touch if you want to get involved and I can ensure you get started in the right direction instantly. -- kind regards, David Sommerseth OpenVPN Inc __

Re: OpenVPN 3 Linux client - v3 beta release

2019-01-31 Thread David Sommerseth
On 01/02/2019 00:01, Tom Hughes wrote: > On 31/01/2019 22:44, David Sommerseth wrote: > >> This new client shares the same code base the OpenVPN Connect (proprietary) >> clients uses as well as the OpenVPN for Android when switching to use the >> OpenVPN 3 backend. 

OpenVPN 3 Linux client - v3 beta release

2019-01-31 Thread David Sommerseth
s details <https://github.com/OpenVPN/openvpn3-linux/tree/master/docs/dbus> * man pages: <https://github.com/OpenVPN/openvpn3-linux/tree/master/docs/man/> Feel free to reach out if you have some questions or good ideas. -- kind regards, David Sommerseth OpenVPN Inc ___

Re: IBM buying RedHat

2018-11-02 Thread David Sommerseth
he bigger ecosystem for RHEL and towards the hybrid cloud everyone works towards. Fedora plays a role providing a good experience and platform, all from the developers and the sys-admins perspective to the end users, leading the way towards the future enterprise solutions. Which is why IBM wanted Re

Re: IBM buying RedHat

2018-10-31 Thread David Sommerseth
H/IBM employees? Even though this is not an official source of any kind, I think the analysis done here pretty well covers these questions for now: <https://www.zdnet.com/article/red-hat-an-independent-barony-in-the-kingdom-of-ibm/> -- kind regar

Re: Set firefox default home page

2018-09-13 Thread David Sommerseth
he details, but I believe this is what /etc/firefox/pref is for. There is also /usr/lib64/firefox/defaults/preferences, but this is owned by the firefox package and can be overwritten. At least a few places to look further. -- kind regards, David Sommerseth

Re: Idea: let's use Pagure to track Changes

2018-08-24 Thread David Sommerseth
ess ("Is this the right template? In a wiki? Have I filled out all the proper fields correctly? How is this proposal picked up and distributed properly?" are some of the thousands questions which popped up). -- kind regards, David Somme

Re: Hiding the grub menu by default on single OS installs

2018-06-01 Thread David Sommerseth
Fedora Recovery options |`- Fedora (older kernel, 4.13.0-103) |`- Fedora (older kernel, 4.14.5-300) |`- Fedora (older kernel, 4.15.3-304) \-- System recover mode (expert) --

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

2018-04-04 Thread David Sommerseth
scription service. -- kind regards, David Sommerseth signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

2018-04-03 Thread David Sommerseth
F28 causes it to be unable to login: > > I think the old maintainer did a blog post about this some time ago, > can't seem to find it with a quick search, but I think it was on the > planet. Here's some traces ... <https://twitter.com/hogarthj/status/961300659931926528> Not sur

Re: Removal of BuildRoot

2018-02-16 Thread David Sommerseth
On 16/02/18 19:48, Tom Hughes wrote: > On 16/02/18 18:26, David Sommerseth wrote: > >> But my "worst" example was probably the openvpn package I'm now in charge for >> (and I am a core upstream developer for that project as well).  But it didn't >> take that much

Re: F29 System Wide Change: Remove GCC from BuildRoot

2018-02-16 Thread David Sommerseth
ery much thankful for all automation being done. -- kind regards, David Sommerseth signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Removal of BuildRoot

2018-02-16 Thread David Sommerseth
attention of the rpmlint maintainer, perhaps there would be a better chance to figure out how to report those issues in a better way - or remove what isn't truly an issue. -- kind regards, David Sommerseth signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___

Re: Removal of BuildRoot

2018-02-16 Thread David Sommerseth
Fedora > releases, that might still use any of htese for legacy environments? Perhaps a silly and ignorant question but is it still possible to send builds to EPEL 5 repositories? I thought that option got closed long ago, together with RHEL 5 reaching EOL. -- kind regards, David Sommer

Re: Escaping macros in %changelog

2018-02-10 Thread David Sommerseth
On 10/02/18 12:54, Kevin Kofler wrote: > David Sommerseth wrote: >> I doubt Koji was primarily built for "does this work?"-builds. It exists >> to build proper packages targeting Fedora repositories. > > But that is the point, to build a proper package: > >

Re: Escaping macros in %changelog

2018-02-09 Thread David Sommerseth
On 09/02/18 23:46, Kevin Kofler wrote: > David Sommerseth wrote: >> Doesn't 'fedpkg mockbuild' resolve those test builds? To my knowledge, >> this is fairly close to what koji does under the hood. Then you'll have >> everything tested locally, git tree can be cleaned up and

Re: Escaping macros in %changelog

2018-02-09 Thread David Sommerseth
use 'fedpkg build --scratch' and provide an SRPM (generated by 'fedpkg srpm'). This shouldn't need to be git pushed either to work. Just my 2 cents. -- kind regards, David Sommerseth signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ deve

Package review - test builds for OpenVPN 3 Client

2018-02-09 Thread David Sommerseth
stions or comments, feel free to reach out! -- kind regards, David Sommerseth OpenVPN Inc signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to de

Re: Remove old GPG keys?

2017-10-31 Thread David Sommerseth
on during install if the key is revoked. > My personal worry is that old keys may get compromised over time, so it > is a very good practice to regularly "disable" old keys. +1 -- kind regards, David Sommerseth signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: OpenVPN and its user/group

2017-10-03 Thread David Sommerseth
On 02/10/17 19:33, Colin Walters wrote: > On Mon, Oct 2, 2017, at 10:56 AM, David Sommerseth wrote: > >>"diag" : "Invocation of useradd without specifying a >> UID; this may be OK, because /usr/share/doc/setup/uidgid defines no UID for >> o

OpenVPN and its user/group

2017-10-02 Thread David Sommerseth
tarting with root privileges for tunnel setup. All the session management and user front-ends will run completely unprivileged. But if these scenarios are reasonable arguments for having a fixed uid/gid, I do not currently know. The OpenVPN source code itself is not tied to any specific uid/

Re: GnuPG 2.2.0 and replacement of GnuPG1

2017-09-10 Thread David Sommerseth
hat said, I don't know how broken my build is (all I know is that it works well enough for my printer, including network scan). But for all I know, it might be it is the GUI tools which depends on the gnupg stuff. -- kind regards, David Sommerseth signature.asc De

Re: BTRFS dropped by RedHat

2017-08-04 Thread David Sommerseth
w down by this, rather that the pace gets improved and it will come back again in stronger and more solid during a future RHEL 8 release. -- kind regards, David Sommerseth ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: RFD Unifying graphviz.spec with upstream

2017-07-20 Thread David Sommerseth
file is really not worth the efforts in the long run IMO. Once the RPM build tools and packaging guidelines is unified across all RPM based distributions you will find it reasonable to unify the .spec files. -- kind regards, David Sommerseth ___

Re: F27 Self Contained Change: New default cipher in OpenVPN

2017-07-20 Thread David Sommerseth
On 20/07/17 13:55, Alexander Ploumistos wrote: > On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 2:21 PM, David Sommerseth <d...@eurephia.org> wrote: >> I rather prefer to have this change in Fedora _now_ in a _planned_ >> release where this can be tested out before the final F27 is released. >

Re: F27 Self Contained Change: New default cipher in OpenVPN

2017-07-20 Thread David Sommerseth
On 20/07/17 09:46, Farkas Levente wrote: > On 07/20/2017 02:09 AM, David Sommerseth wrote: >> On 18/07/17 22:55, Farkas Levente wrote: >>> On 07/18/2017 10:03 PM, David Sommerseth wrote: >>>> On 18/07/17 17:50, Farkas Levente wrote: >>>>>

Re: F27 Self Contained Change: New default cipher in OpenVPN

2017-07-19 Thread David Sommerseth
On 18/07/17 22:55, Farkas Levente wrote: > On 07/18/2017 10:03 PM, David Sommerseth wrote: >> On 18/07/17 17:50, Farkas Levente wrote: >>> On 07/18/2017 03:55 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: >>>> This will result in the following: >>>> * OpenVPN 2.4 based cli

Re: F27 Self Contained Change: New default cipher in OpenVPN

2017-07-18 Thread David Sommerseth
28-GCM). So I would recommend to re-test your own setup with the latest v2.4.3 on the server side; which is what we ship in F25 and newer. -- kind regards, David Sommerseth ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: F27 System Wide Change: Rsyslog log format change proposal

2017-05-30 Thread David Sommerseth
t; system-wide. One such program which strikes my mind instantly is logwatch ... how will that cope this change?That said, this change does make a lot of sense; as long as log parses won't choke and die. And those tools should be fixed in these cases, don't revert this needed log format change

Re: Wild changes in nsswitch.conf

2017-05-16 Thread David Sommerseth
andled quite well regardless if you are online or not. From my perspective, SSSD solves more issues than what nscd is capable of, at least to how I've learnt to know nscd. And my experience with computers enrolled into a FreeIPA managed network have overall just been a wonderful and easy experience. -

Re: OpenVPN v2.4.2 with two important fixes

2017-05-16 Thread David Sommerseth
On 12/05/17 13:59, Jonathan Wakely wrote: > On 11/05/17 16:59 +0200, David Sommerseth wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Just making a little noise here, as the upstream OpenVPN community have >> released v2.4.2 which fixes to critical authenticated remote Do

Re: OpenVPN v2.4.2 with two important fixes

2017-05-12 Thread David Sommerseth
On 12/05/17 13:59, Jonathan Wakely wrote: > On 11/05/17 16:59 +0200, David Sommerseth wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Just making a little noise here, as the upstream OpenVPN community have >> released v2.4.2 which fixes to critical authenticated remote Do

OpenVPN v2.4.2 with two important fixes

2017-05-11 Thread David Sommerseth
d help with testing these releases. -- kind regards, David Sommerseth signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Split translations to noarch packages?

2017-05-02 Thread David Sommerseth
> On 2 May 2017 at 11:14, David Sommerseth <d...@eurephia.org> wrote: >> Show us a dist-git repos we can clone and run 'fedpkg mockbuild' and see >> how this works for _Fedora_. >> >> How things are done in various other distributions doesn't mean it can

Re: Split translations to noarch packages?

2017-05-02 Thread David Sommerseth
ent out-of-the-box you provide. -- kind regards, David Sommerseth signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Split translations to noarch packages?

2017-04-30 Thread David Sommerseth
s, *whatever* which uses your approach so we can see and get experience on how to resolve it. If you're not coming up with anything concrete by now, you'll just be ignored and mail threads of such types just gets silently ignored by the mailing list recipients. -- kind regards, David Sommerseth s

Re: OpenVPN, OpenSSL and Fedora 26+

2017-04-28 Thread David Sommerseth
On 27/04/17 23:15, Pete Travis wrote: > > > On Apr 27, 2017 3:13 PM, "David Sommerseth" <d...@eurephia.org > <mailto:d...@eurephia.org>> wrote: > > On 27/04/17 01:20, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > > Thanks a lot for the w

Re: OpenVPN, OpenSSL and Fedora 26+

2017-04-27 Thread David Sommerseth
On 27/04/17 01:20, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > On Wednesday, 26 April 2017 at 21:18, David Sommerseth wrote: >> On 26/04/17 17:08, Lee Howard wrote: >>> On 04/25/2017 01:39 PM, David Sommerseth wrote: >>>> This is actually just a very late heads-up

Re: OpenVPN, OpenSSL and Fedora 26+

2017-04-26 Thread David Sommerseth
On 26/04/17 17:08, Lee Howard wrote: > On 04/25/2017 01:39 PM, David Sommerseth wrote: >> This is actually just a very late heads-up about challenges with OpenVPN >> in Fedora 26. >> >> Fedora is moving towards OpenSSL v1.1, which is in my opinion a sane and >>

OpenVPN, OpenSSL and Fedora 26+

2017-04-26 Thread David Sommerseth
to be a bit too big. There are still a few things which needs to be ironed out. But once the mbed TLS/OpenSSL issue and a few other more minor issues gets resolved, I'd say we're pretty much in a reasonable shape. If you have questions, issues or comments ... feel free to reach out! -- kind regards

OpenVPN, OpenSSL and Fedora 26+

2017-04-26 Thread David Sommerseth
to be a bit too big. There are still a few things which needs to be ironed out. But once the mbed TLS/OpenSSL issue and a few other more minor issues gets resolved, I'd say we're pretty much in a reasonable shape. If you have questions, issues or comments ... feel free to reach out! -- kind regards

Re: /var/log/dnf.log

2015-09-10 Thread David Sommerseth
h such needless verbose logging Did you take a look at /var/log/dnf.rpm.log? -- kind regards, David Sommerseth -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: /var/log/dnf.log

2015-09-10 Thread David Sommerseth
On 10/09/15 17:46, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 10.09.2015 um 17:38 schrieb David Sommerseth: >> On 10/09/15 15:31, Reindl Harald wrote: >>> what in the world is that garbage instead a clear and simple log as >>> /var/log/yum.log just listing installed

Re: Secure boot and packaging third-party kernel modules

2015-05-29 Thread David Sommerseth
On 28/05/15 23:03, David Smith wrote: On 05/28/2015 10:26 AM, David Sommerseth wrote: ... stuff deleted ... Any thoughts or comments to this approach? Anyone got a better idea? Your process looks reasonable. Thanks! Yes, I do know it is not good to have the keying material

Re: Secure boot and packaging third-party kernel modules

2015-05-29 Thread David Sommerseth
On 28/05/15 17:45, Josh Boyer wrote: On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 11:26 AM, David Sommerseth dav...@redhat.com wrote: Hi, I've started poking into packaging the mhvtl project for Fedora and EPEL. This package also contains a kernel module, which normally works fine - until you hit Secure Boot

Re: Secure boot and packaging third-party kernel modules

2015-05-29 Thread David Sommerseth
On 29/05/15 14:54, Josh Boyer wrote: On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 8:40 AM, David Sommerseth dav...@redhat.com wrote: On 28/05/15 17:45, Josh Boyer wrote: On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 11:26 AM, David Sommerseth dav...@redhat.com wrote: Hi, I've started poking into packaging the mhvtl project

Re: Secure boot and packaging third-party kernel modules

2015-05-29 Thread David Sommerseth
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 29/05/15 17:04, Simon Farnsworth wrote: On Friday 29 May 2015 15:24:24 David Sommerseth wrote: On 28/05/15 23:03, David Smith wrote: snip But really the best solution here is to get the mhvtl kernel module upstream. Agreed, but I'm

Secure boot and packaging third-party kernel modules

2015-05-28 Thread David Sommerseth
to reinvent the wheel! -- kind regards, David Sommerseth -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: Including tlp in Fedora Workstation by default

2015-05-28 Thread David Sommerseth
a few years. +1 ... If the kernel isn't perfect, lets make the kernel perfect instead. Just my 2 cents. -- kind regards, David Sommerseth -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http

Re: Maybe it's time to get rid of tcpwrappers/tcpd?

2014-06-05 Thread David Sommerseth
age and wisdom. -- kind regards, David Sommerseth -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: RFC - Downgrade BlueZ to v4.101 in Fedora 20

2014-01-24 Thread David Sommerseth
On 23/01/14 21:19, Dan Williams wrote: On Thu, 2014-01-23 at 14:17 -0600, Dan Williams wrote: On Thu, 2014-01-23 at 20:04 +0100, David Sommerseth wrote: On 23/01/14 19:58, Frank Murphy wrote: On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 19:53:19 +0100 [...snip...] Might even be a worse conflict for other users

Re: RFC - Downgrade BlueZ to v4.101 in Fedora 20

2014-01-24 Thread David Sommerseth
On 23/01/14 23:59, Dan Williams wrote: On Thu, 2014-01-23 at 16:58 -0500, Brian J. Murrell wrote: On Thu, 2014-01-23 at 20:04 +0100, David Sommerseth wrote: Nope, several packages depends on the bluez-5.13-1 package. Indeed. However I could probably live without gnome-bluetooth if blueman

Re: RFC - Downgrade BlueZ to v4.101 in Fedora 20

2014-01-24 Thread David Sommerseth
On 23/01/14 23:16, Chris Murphy wrote: On Jan 23, 2014, at 2:56 PM, Brian J. Murrell br...@interlinx.bc.ca wrote: On Thu, 2014-01-23 at 19:53 +0100, David Sommerseth wrote: As a side note, it also needs to be discussed how such a key feature of the bluetooth stack could go unnoticed through

Re: RFC - Downgrade BlueZ to v4.101 in Fedora 20

2014-01-24 Thread David Sommerseth
profile working. Anyhow, I'm past this discussion and have started to figure out how to recompile the needed packages. So anything which can simplify this job is appreciated. -- kind regards, David Sommerseth -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org

Re: RFC - Downgrade BlueZ to v4.101 in Fedora 20

2014-01-24 Thread David Sommerseth
On 24/01/14 18:30, Dan Williams wrote: On Fri, 2014-01-24 at 12:21 +0100, David Sommerseth wrote: On 23/01/14 21:19, Dan Williams wrote: On Thu, 2014-01-23 at 14:17 -0600, Dan Williams wrote: On Thu, 2014-01-23 at 20:04 +0100, David Sommerseth wrote: On 23/01/14 19:58, Frank Murphy wrote

Re: RFC - Downgrade BlueZ to v4.101 in Fedora 20

2014-01-23 Thread David Sommerseth
On 23/01/14 19:58, Frank Murphy wrote: On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 19:53:19 +0100 David Sommerseth dav...@redhat.com wrote: Hi all, This might be a viewed as a fire torch, but there is, IMO, a major regression in BlueZ 5 which is shipped in Fedora 20. It doesn't support HSP/HFP headset profiles

Re: [HEADS-UP] Rawhide: /tmp is now on tmpfs

2012-07-12 Thread David Sommerseth
disks. I'm sorry to say, I still haven't really seen any good arguments why this move is a clever idea on *all* installations. Some installations, yes, but default for not all. kind regards, David Sommerseth -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG

Re: urandom vs haveged

2012-03-30 Thread David Sommerseth
with havege. It might not be as random as you'd expect. kind regards, David Sommerseth -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk915wcACgkQIIWEatLf4HerZQCglA4QOSgRoIR8FwSMBBfR52Su PNgAoKzFupvU2MwuFHty

Re: urandom vs haveged

2012-03-30 Thread David Sommerseth
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 30/03/12 21:01, Przemek Klosowski wrote: On 03/30/2012 01:02 PM, David Sommerseth wrote: That sounds reasonable. Unless I mix /dev/random and /dev/urandom, the latter blocks until it has filled up the entropy pool again. Eh, the FORMER

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-28 Thread David Sommerseth
discussion on the topic about ~/.local/bin, also bringing it outside of Fedora's core. Lets rather move forward with more caution. kind regards, David Sommerseth -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-28 Thread David Sommerseth
is most likely crazy, silly and stupid. Are you sure you really want to do this? You might regret bitterly if you proceed! Just like what Firefox has done with the about:config warning. kind regards, David Sommerseth -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-28 Thread David Sommerseth
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 27/07/11 17:40, Roman Rakus wrote: Hi all, from the discussion here, I'm tempted to revert the change. Any objections? +1 ... at least the there is some common consensus, also across distributions. kind regards, David Sommerseth -BEGIN

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-28 Thread David Sommerseth
the road to hell is paved with good intentions. To have ~{/.local,}/bin in default $PATH is indeed a good intention at first glance. However, it might not be the best solution for everybody. kind regards, David Sommerseth -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment