Re: Mass closing EOL bugs should not close bugs with pending updates

2013-02-17 Thread Gerry Reno
On 02/17/2013 03:26 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote: Am Sonntag, den 17.02.2013, 14:46 +0100 schrieb Tadej Janež: On Sun, 2013-02-17 at 12:02 +0100, Christoph Wickert wrote: I found that a couple of F16 bugs were closed by endoflife@fp.o even though there were pending updates for F17 and F18 to

Re: Plans for anaconda LVM/RAID support

2012-10-25 Thread Gerry Reno
On 10/25/2012 03:04 PM, John Reiser wrote: On 10/25/2012 09:55 AM, Ken Dreyer wrote: On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Matthew Miller [snip] It is often useful in enterprise settings to do non-kickstart installs while prototyping. *And*, people running Fedora in those settings probably

Re: F17: Saitek Pro Flight controls refuse to operate with kernel 3.6.1 upgrade

2012-10-17 Thread Gerry Reno
On 10/16/2012 05:41 PM, Gerry Reno wrote: I just found another problem with the upgrade to kernel 3.6.1 My Saitek Pro Flight controls (yoke and pedals) refuse to operate now. I can see them in dmesg but they do nothing when running FlightGear now. Solved by updating kernel-modules-extra

Re: F17: Illuminated keyboard turns off with kernel 3.6.1 upgrade

2012-10-16 Thread Gerry Reno
Filed: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=867024 On 10/16/2012 03:40 AM, Vratislav Podzimek wrote: On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 19:48 -0400, Gerry Reno wrote: I just upgraded my F17 kernel to 3.6.1 and when I reboot then my Logitech illuminated keyboard is not lit until I touch a key

Re: F17: Illuminated keyboard turns off with kernel 3.6.1 upgrade

2012-10-16 Thread Gerry Reno
On 10/16/2012 12:59 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: On 15 October 2012 17:48, Gerry Reno gr...@verizon.net wrote: I just upgraded my F17 kernel to 3.6.1 and when I reboot then my Logitech illuminated keyboard is not lit until I touch a key and then it goes right back off. Kind of defeats

F17: Saitek Pro Flight controls refuse to operate with kernel 3.6.1 upgrade

2012-10-16 Thread Gerry Reno
I just found another problem with the upgrade to kernel 3.6.1 My Saitek Pro Flight controls (yoke and pedals) refuse to operate now. I can see them in dmesg but they do nothing when running FlightGear now. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

F17: FlightGear

2012-09-10 Thread Gerry Reno
FlightGear 2.8.0 has been released. And it supports a lot more controllers. Can we have FlightGear updated to 2.8.0 for F17? Thanks. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: F17: FlightGear

2012-09-10 Thread Gerry Reno
On 09/11/2012 12:03 AM, Tomas Dabašinskas wrote: FlightGear 2.8.0 Opened bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=856053 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: F17: DirectFB

2012-09-06 Thread Gerry Reno
Trying to run directfb on F17 I noticed 5 issues: 1) libdirectfb_vdpau.so: undefined symbol: XUnlockDisplay (Bug 852740: fixed) 2) Unable to run DirectFB as a normal user (Bug 852745: open) 3) permissions on /dev/tty* and /dev/fb* not set by udev (probably should be addressed

Re: F17: DirectFB

2012-08-30 Thread Gerry Reno
On 08/30/2012 09:00 AM, Tom Callaway wrote: On 08/29/2012 06:52 PM, Gerry Reno wrote: (!) DirectFB/core/vt: Error opening `/dev/tty1'! -- Permission denied (!) DirectFB/Core: Could not initialize 'system_core' core! -- A general initialization error occured

Re: F17: DirectFB

2012-08-30 Thread Gerry Reno
If I run the command under root I see a more extensive output but having same problems w/1024x768: # dfbinfo ~~| DirectFB 1.6.1 |~~ (c) 2001-2012 The world wide DirectFB Open Source Community (c) 2000-2004

Re: F17: DirectFB

2012-08-30 Thread Gerry Reno
After manually setting tty0 and tty1 using the previous chmod command now when I reboot I get a strange mix of tty settings. Originally they would all have permissions like this: crw--w. 1 root tty 4, 10 Aug 30 2012 /dev/tty10 But now they are a mix of settings: # ls -l

Re: F17: DirectFB

2012-08-30 Thread Gerry Reno
On 08/30/2012 09:40 AM, Tom Callaway wrote: On 08/30/2012 09:26 AM, Gerry Reno wrote: If I run the command under root I see a more extensive output but having same problems w/1024x768: (*) DirectFB/Core/WM: Default 0.3 (directfb.org) (!!!) *** ONCE [no mode found for 1024x768

Re: F17: DirectFB

2012-08-30 Thread Gerry Reno
On 08/30/2012 09:47 AM, Gerry Reno wrote: On 08/30/2012 09:40 AM, Tom Callaway wrote: On 08/30/2012 09:26 AM, Gerry Reno wrote: If I run the command under root I see a more extensive output but having same problems w/1024x768: (*) DirectFB/Core/WM: Default 0.3 (directfb.org

Re: F17: DirectFB

2012-08-30 Thread Gerry Reno
On 08/30/2012 11:16 AM, Adam Jackson wrote: On 8/30/12 9:26 AM, Gerry Reno wrote: (*) DirectFB/FBDev: Found 'inteldrmfb' (ID 0) with frame buffer at 0xc0064000, 8100k (MMIO 0x, 0k) So this says you're using the intel drm driver... (*) DirectFB/Core/WM: Default 0.3

Re: F17: DirectFB

2012-08-29 Thread Gerry Reno
On 08/28/2012 11:57 AM, Gerry Reno wrote: On 08/27/2012 10:59 PM, Ilyes Gouta wrote: Hi Gerry, Try contacting the main dev. mailing-list of DirectFB. I'm sure you'll get an answer there. Btw, DirectFB-1.5.3 is rather old, DirectFB-1.6.1 is rather the latest stable release. -Ilyes

Re: F17: DirectFB

2012-08-29 Thread Gerry Reno
On 08/29/2012 02:33 PM, Tom Callaway wrote: On 08/29/2012 09:25 AM, Gerry Reno wrote: DirectFB says that there are Fedora packaging errors which are causing the undefined symbol on XUnlockDisplay and inability to run as normal user. Upstream is wrong, btw. The dlopen problem is caused

Re: F17: DirectFB

2012-08-29 Thread Gerry Reno
Tom, Ok, I tried testing with the following settings: $ ls -l /dev/tty{,0,1} /dev/fb{,0} lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 3 Aug 21 21:52 /dev/fb - fb0 crw-rw-rw-. 1 root video 29, 0 Aug 21 21:52 /dev/fb0 crw-rw-rw-. 1 root tty5, 0 Aug 21 21:52 /dev/tty crw--w. 1 root

Re: F17: DirectFB

2012-08-29 Thread Gerry Reno
On 08/29/2012 06:43 PM, Ilyes Gouta wrote: Gerry, You could also use DirectFB's X11 system module, so that you can run DirectFB-based applications in a usual X11 window. You can tell DirectFB so by using the DFBARGS environment variable: $ export DFBARGS=system=x11,mode=1280x800 (probably

Re: F17: DirectFB

2012-08-28 Thread Gerry Reno
On 08/27/2012 10:59 PM, Ilyes Gouta wrote: Hi Gerry, Try contacting the main dev. mailing-list of DirectFB. I'm sure you'll get an answer there. Btw, DirectFB-1.5.3 is rather old, DirectFB-1.6.1 is rather the latest stable release. -Ilyes Thanks Ilyes. I'll try posting over on the

Re: F17: DirectFB

2012-08-27 Thread Gerry Reno
On 08/24/2012 06:56 PM, Gerry Reno wrote: I have had no success whatsoever getting DirectFB to run under F17 as a regular user on my HP laptop. # yum list DirectFB Installed Packages directfb.x86_64 1.5.3-7.fc17

F17: DirectFB

2012-08-24 Thread Gerry Reno
I have had no success whatsoever getting DirectFB to run under F17 as a regular user on my HP laptop. # yum list DirectFB Installed Packages directfb.x86_64 1.5.3-7.fc17 @updates I have discussed the

Re: Debugging Fedora UEFI boot problems on Intel DQ77MK

2012-07-30 Thread Gerry Reno
On 07/30/2012 10:58 AM, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 05:35:20PM -0400, Gerry Reno wrote: On 07/26/2012 05:12 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 08:59:20PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: When booting Fedora 17 x64 there's the GRUB bootloader with graphical

Re: Debugging Fedora UEFI boot problems on Intel DQ77MK

2012-07-30 Thread Gerry Reno
On 07/30/2012 11:28 AM, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:21:54AM -0400, Gerry Reno wrote: On 07/30/2012 10:58 AM, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 05:35:20PM -0400, Gerry Reno wrote: On 07/26/2012 05:12 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 08:59

Re: Debugging Fedora UEFI boot problems on Intel DQ77MK

2012-07-26 Thread Gerry Reno
I encountered a similar problem when using a new Intel Xeon (Ivy Bridge) CPU. The issue occurred with Ivy Bridge w/iGPU onboard. Ref: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=840180 . -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Debugging Fedora UEFI boot problems on Intel DQ77MK

2012-07-26 Thread Gerry Reno
There are missing Ivy Bridge definitions in the intel_chipset.h file in libdrm which causes machines with Ivy Bridge CPU's w/embedded iGPU to fail when starting X. As I said in the bug, installing libdrm 2.4.37 from bodhi fixed the issue on my F17 machine. On 07/26/2012 02:05 PM, Gerry Reno

Re: Debugging Fedora UEFI boot problems on Intel DQ77MK

2012-07-26 Thread Gerry Reno
On 07/26/2012 04:31 PM, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 02:44:24PM -0400, Gerry Reno wrote: There are missing Ivy Bridge definitions in the intel_chipset.h file in libdrm which causes machines with Ivy Bridge CPU's w/embedded iGPU to fail when starting X. As I said in the bug

Re: Debugging Fedora UEFI boot problems on Intel DQ77MK

2012-07-26 Thread Gerry Reno
On 07/26/2012 05:12 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 08:59:20PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: When booting Fedora 17 x64 there's the GRUB bootloader with graphical background image, I let it boot the default entry Fedora 17, I see it the allocating memory pages, loading

Re: kernel 3.4.4-5 refuses to boot

2012-07-20 Thread Gerry Reno
It worked. I grabbed the libdrm 2.4.37 rpm from bodhi and it fixed the problem on my Xeon(Ivy Bridge) machine. On 07/18/2012 05:32 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: On Wed, 2012-07-18 at 16:33 -0400, Gerry Reno wrote: On 07/18/2012 04:12 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 15:21:24

kernel 3.4.4-5 refuses to boot

2012-07-18 Thread Gerry Reno
Has there been any trouble booting the 3.4.4-5 kernel? I updated one of my F17 machines today and it brought in a new kernel, 3.4.4-5. When I rebooted the box after all the updates completed it refused to boot. It just hangs with a non-blinking cursor in the upper left hand corner of a totally

Re: kernel 3.4.4-5 refuses to boot

2012-07-18 Thread Gerry Reno
On 07/18/2012 04:12 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 15:21:24 -0400, Gerry Reno gr...@verizon.net wrote: Has there been any trouble booting the 3.4.4-5 kernel? I didn't have issues with it, but have now switched to 3.4.5-2 which is available from koji. It appears my

Re: Fedora ARM and SecureBoot

2012-06-08 Thread Gerry Reno
On 06/08/2012 08:07 AM, Mario Torre wrote: On Thu, 2012-06-07 at 14:34 -0500, Chris Adams wrote: that would not allow custom kernel and such. Don't support the locked down platform; the answer to Fedora on ARM is don't buy a Win8 ARM system and expect to run Fedora. One should be very, very

Re: Fedora ARM and SecureBoot

2012-06-08 Thread Gerry Reno
On 06/08/2012 09:00 AM, drago01 wrote: On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Gerry Reno gr...@verizon.net wrote: On 06/08/2012 08:07 AM, Mario Torre wrote: On Thu, 2012-06-07 at 14:34 -0500, Chris Adams wrote: that would not allow custom kernel and such. Don't support the locked down platform

Re: Fedora ARM and SecureBoot

2012-06-08 Thread Gerry Reno
On 06/08/2012 09:20 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Gerry Reno gr...@verizon.net wrote: On 06/08/2012 09:00 AM, drago01 wrote: On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Gerry Reno gr...@verizon.net wrote: On 06/08/2012 08:07 AM, Mario Torre wrote: On Thu, 2012-06-07 at 14:34

Re: Fedora ARM and SecureBoot

2012-06-08 Thread Gerry Reno
On 06/08/2012 10:11 AM, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Gerry Reno gr...@verizon.net said: And I expect this idea of preventing other OS's from being installed on Win8 ARM hardware will not fly in the EU. It's anti-competitive. You mean they don't have iPads and Android tablets

Re: Fedora ARM and SecureBoot

2012-06-08 Thread Gerry Reno
On 06/08/2012 11:55 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Jun 8, 2012, at 6:47 AM, Gerry Reno wrote: And I expect this idea of preventing other OS's from being installed on Win8 ARM hardware will not fly in the EU. It's anti-competitive. There's no such prevention. It's just that by voluntary

Re: Fedora ARM and SecureBoot

2012-06-08 Thread Gerry Reno
On 06/08/2012 01:04 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2012-06-08 at 14:07 +0200, Mario Torre wrote: On Thu, 2012-06-07 at 14:34 -0500, Chris Adams wrote: that would not allow custom kernel and such. Don't support the locked down platform; the answer to Fedora on ARM is don't buy a Win8 ARM

Re: System problems

2012-06-07 Thread Gerry Reno
On 06/07/2012 01:25 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: since the upgrade to 17, I've been experiencing system freezes on frequent occasions when getting up from the computer. The term frequent used in this context has a different meaning from constantly; there are many moments when I can get up to

F17: fatal errors on install

2012-06-04 Thread Gerry Reno
Today tried installing F17 x86_64 from DVD and get these errors: ERROR: could not insert 'floppy': No such device Loading Fedora 17 x86_64 installer... dracut Warning: Unable to process initqueue dracut Warning: /dev/disk/by-label/Fedorax2017x20x86_64 does not exist dracut

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-04 Thread Gerry Reno
On 06/04/2012 10:24 AM, Jon Ciesla wrote: On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Gerry Reno gr...@verizon.net wrote: On 06/01/2012 03:56 PM, Jon Ciesla wrote: On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Gerry Reno gr...@verizon.net wrote: Drive manufacturers need to do nothing. One drive probably SSD

Re: F17: fatal errors on install

2012-06-04 Thread Gerry Reno
On 06/04/2012 03:19 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 15:06:46 -0400 Gerry Reno gr...@verizon.net wrote: Today tried installing F17 x86_64 from DVD and get these errors: ERROR: could not insert 'floppy': No such device Loading Fedora 17 x86_64 installer... dracut

Re: F17: fatal errors on install

2012-06-04 Thread Gerry Reno
On 06/04/2012 06:23 PM, Gerry Reno wrote: On 06/04/2012 03:19 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 15:06:46 -0400 Gerry Reno gr...@verizon.net wrote: Today tried installing F17 x86_64 from DVD and get these errors: ERROR: could not insert 'floppy': No such device Loading

Re: F17: fatal errors on install

2012-06-04 Thread Gerry Reno
On 06/04/2012 07:37 PM, Gerry Reno wrote: On 06/04/2012 06:23 PM, Gerry Reno wrote: On 06/04/2012 03:19 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 15:06:46 -0400 Gerry Reno gr...@verizon.net wrote: Today tried installing F17 x86_64 from DVD and get these errors: ERROR: could not insert

Re: F17: fatal errors on install

2012-06-04 Thread Gerry Reno
On 06/04/2012 07:44 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 19:37:07 -0400 Gerry Reno gr...@verizon.net wrote: Burned another DVD and booting it got some other errors (rpcbind?) but it runs the installer at least. I'm doing custom partitioning and I selected to encrypt the LVM physical

Re: [HEADS-UP] Rawhide: /tmp is now on tmpfs

2012-06-01 Thread Gerry Reno
So everyone needs to go out and buy twice as much RAM so F18+ can run /tmp as tmpfs without causing memory shortfalls for everything else they do. That's crazy. . -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: [HEADS-UP] Rawhide: /tmp is now on tmpfs

2012-06-01 Thread Gerry Reno
On 06/01/2012 11:05 AM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Gerry Reno gr...@verizon.net wrote: So everyone needs to go out and buy twice as much RAM so F18+ can run /tmp as tmpfs without causing memory shortfalls for everything else they do. That's crazy. Thats not true

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-01 Thread Gerry Reno
On 06/01/2012 11:18 AM, Cosimo Cecchi wrote: On Fri, 2012-06-01 at 03:14 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: Chris Adams wrote: - Secure boot is required to be able to be disabled on x86 (the only platform Fedora will support it). And this is exactly why we should just require our users to disable it!

Re: Action required: Rawhide: /tmp is now on tmpfs

2012-06-01 Thread Gerry Reno
On 06/01/2012 11:52 AM, Alexey I. Froloff wrote: On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 11:31:21AM -0400, Brian Wheeler wrote: Well, since I'm probably going to turn it off, can someone give me a good reason why it should be turned _on_ by default? For me, the Benefit to Fedora bullets are not compelling.

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-01 Thread Gerry Reno
On 06/01/2012 12:07 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Peter Jones wrote: Next year if we don't implement some form of Secure Boot support, the majority of Fedora users will not be able to install Fedora on new machines. Nonsense. They will be able to install it very easily, they just need to set a

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-01 Thread Gerry Reno
On 06/01/2012 12:10 PM, Gerry Reno wrote: On 06/01/2012 12:07 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Peter Jones wrote: Next year if we don't implement some form of Secure Boot support, the majority of Fedora users will not be able to install Fedora on new machines. Nonsense. They will be able to install

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-01 Thread Gerry Reno
On 06/01/2012 12:30 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Debarshi Ray wrote: By the way, I am assuming that you know that one can't modify Firefox and redistribute it as Firefox without certification. I've been pointing out this issue in several threads. That's exactly why Fedora should finally follow

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-01 Thread Gerry Reno
On 06/01/2012 12:10 PM, Gerry Reno wrote: On 06/01/2012 12:07 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Peter Jones wrote: Next year if we don't implement some form of Secure Boot support, the majority of Fedora users will not be able to install Fedora on new machines. Nonsense. They will be able to install

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-01 Thread Gerry Reno
On 06/01/2012 12:45 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 06:16:37PM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: Adam Jackson wrote: False. Quoting from Matthew's original post: A system in custom mode should allow you to delete all existing keys and replace them with your own. After that it's

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-01 Thread Gerry Reno
On 06/01/2012 12:55 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Tom Callaway wrote: Do we want to support dual-booting with Windows 8? Microsoft describes SecureBoot enablement as Required for Windows 8 client [1]? What does that mean? We're not sure. At best, it means that BitLocker isn't going to work, at

Re: [HEADS-UP] Rawhide: /tmp is now on tmpfs

2012-06-01 Thread Gerry Reno
On 06/01/2012 12:27 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: The feature may be adopted/promoted on the basis of SSD writecycle preservation, I'm about to put in an SSD boot disk, so I care about this argument, but I'm still not using tmpfs, for my reasons stated previously. but tmpfs also offers considerable

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-01 Thread Gerry Reno
Windows-8 will install/boot on existing hardware w/o SecureBoot. Will Windows-8 install/boot on new hardware that contains SecureBoot without SecureBoot enabled? Can users flash BIOS to remove SecureBoot? . -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-01 Thread Gerry Reno
On 06/01/2012 02:19 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 14:16:45 -0400 Gerry Reno gr...@verizon.net wrote: Windows-8 will install/boot on existing hardware w/o SecureBoot. My understanding: no. There are multiple examples on the web of people installing Windows-8 on existing

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-01 Thread Gerry Reno
On 06/01/2012 02:24 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 02:16:45PM -0400, Gerry Reno wrote: Windows-8 will install/boot on existing hardware w/o SecureBoot. Yes. Will Windows-8 install/boot on new hardware that contains SecureBoot without SecureBoot enabled? Yes. Can users

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-01 Thread Gerry Reno
I just read through the MS docs on SecureBoot and this is the biggest Rube-Goldberg machine. I could not think of a nastier solution to a problem than what they've dreamt up here. The whole problem they are trying to solve is that of booting only known-good code. That would be much easier

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-01 Thread Gerry Reno
On 06/01/2012 03:22 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2012-06-01 at 15:14 -0400, Gerry Reno wrote: I just read through the MS docs on SecureBoot and this is the biggest Rube-Goldberg machine. I could not think of a nastier solution to a problem than what they've dreamt up here

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-01 Thread Gerry Reno
On 06/01/2012 03:32 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Jun 1, 2012, at 1:14 PM, Gerry Reno wrote: That would be much easier accomplished by having the OS reside on a read-only device that could only be written to by the user actively using hardware to enable the write during installation. Except

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-01 Thread Gerry Reno
On 06/01/2012 03:56 PM, Jon Ciesla wrote: On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Gerry Reno gr...@verizon.net wrote: Drive manufacturers need to do nothing. One drive probably SSD at this point, gets dedicated to OS. Other drive to everything else. The read-write controllable interfaces already

Re: [HEADS-UP] Rawhide: /tmp is now on tmpfs

2012-05-31 Thread Gerry Reno
On 05/31/2012 09:27 AM, Brian Wheeler wrote: On 05/31/2012 08:59 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: * We bring Fedora closer to commercial Unixes and other Linux distributions. Um, so? Any solaris admin worth their salt kills the ram-based /tmp as soon as the install is finished. Its been

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-05-31 Thread Gerry Reno
http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/secure-boot-vs-restricted-boot/statement SecureBoot is not about security. It is about restriction. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-05-31 Thread Gerry Reno
On 05/31/2012 12:06 PM, Peter Jones wrote: On 05/31/2012 12:04 PM, Gerry Reno wrote: SecureBoot is not about security. It is about restriction. If you're looking for a mantra to recite ad infinitum, that's a fine one, but right now we're looking for ideas that are helpful and productive

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-05-31 Thread Gerry Reno
On 05/31/2012 12:13 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Gerry Reno gr...@verizon.net wrote: http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/secure-boot-vs-restricted-boot/statement SecureBoot is not about security. It is about restriction. That is just untrue. SecureBoot can be used

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-05-31 Thread Gerry Reno
On 05/31/2012 12:22 PM, Peter Jones wrote: On 05/31/2012 12:11 PM, Gerry Reno wrote: This is a monopolistic attack disguised as a security effort. The argument that it's a security effort is bolstered in many vendors eyes by the existence of attacks in the wild which Secure Boot would

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-05-31 Thread Gerry Reno
On 05/31/2012 12:46 PM, Peter Jones wrote: On 05/31/2012 12:16 PM, Gerry Reno wrote: On 05/31/2012 12:13 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Gerry Renogr...@verizon.net wrote: http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/secure-boot-vs-restricted-boot/statement SecureBoot

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-05-31 Thread Gerry Reno
On 05/31/2012 12:57 PM, Basil Mohamed Gohar wrote: On 05/31/2012 12:53 PM, Gerry Reno wrote: On 05/31/2012 12:51 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 12:49:53PM -0400, Gerry Reno wrote: The issue could be solved by having the SecureBoot default setting depend on the OS being

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-05-31 Thread Gerry Reno
On 05/31/2012 01:03 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 12:53:30PM -0400, Gerry Reno wrote: On 05/31/2012 12:51 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 12:49:53PM -0400, Gerry Reno wrote: The issue could be solved by having the SecureBoot default setting depend

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-05-31 Thread Gerry Reno
On 05/31/2012 01:10 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Gerry Reno gr...@verizon.net wrote: Could be any of a thousand ways to implement this. Maybe it checks the BIOS to determine whether some SecureBoot flag is set. While it pains me to argue with someone on my side

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-05-31 Thread Gerry Reno
On 05/31/2012 01:19 PM, Jon Ciesla wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Gerry Reno gr...@verizon.net wrote: On 05/31/2012 01:10 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Gerry Reno gr...@verizon.net wrote: Could be any of a thousand ways to implement this. Maybe

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-05-31 Thread Gerry Reno
On 05/31/2012 01:34 PM, Jon Ciesla wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 12:22 PM, Gerry Reno gr...@verizon.net wrote: On 05/31/2012 01:19 PM, Jon Ciesla wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Gerry Reno gr...@verizon.net wrote: On 05/31/2012 01:10 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2012

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-05-31 Thread Gerry Reno
On 05/31/2012 01:47 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: Platforms implementing secure boot will require cryptographically signed firmware updates, so the only way an attacker will be able to modify your system is by having physical access to the flash. Well, at least that part is good. -- devel

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-05-31 Thread Gerry Reno
On 05/31/2012 01:48 PM, Jon Ciesla wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Gerry Reno gr...@verizon.net wrote: On 05/31/2012 01:34 PM, Jon Ciesla wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 12:22 PM, Gerry Reno gr...@verizon.net wrote: On 05/31/2012 01:19 PM, Jon Ciesla wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 12

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-05-31 Thread Gerry Reno
On 05/31/2012 01:57 PM, Jon Ciesla wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Gerry Reno gr...@verizon.net wrote: On 05/31/2012 01:48 PM, Jon Ciesla wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Gerry Reno gr...@verizon.net wrote: On 05/31/2012 01:34 PM, Jon Ciesla wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 12

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-05-31 Thread Gerry Reno
On 05/31/2012 02:17 PM, Jon Ciesla wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Gerry Reno gr...@verizon.net wrote: On 05/31/2012 01:57 PM, Jon Ciesla wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Gerry Reno gr...@verizon.net wrote: On 05/31/2012 01:48 PM, Jon Ciesla wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 12

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-05-31 Thread Gerry Reno
On 05/31/2012 02:52 PM, Jon Ciesla wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Gerry Reno gr...@verizon.net wrote: On 05/31/2012 02:17 PM, Jon Ciesla wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Gerry Reno gr...@verizon.net wrote: On 05/31/2012 01:57 PM, Jon Ciesla wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 12:52

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-05-31 Thread Gerry Reno
On 05/31/2012 04:04 PM, Jon Ciesla wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Jon Ciesla limburg...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Gerry Reno gr...@verizon.net wrote: On 05/31/2012 02:52 PM, Jon Ciesla wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Gerry Reno gr...@verizon.net wrote

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-05-31 Thread Gerry Reno
On 05/31/2012 04:26 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Gerry Reno gr...@verizon.net wrote: And I'd rather see a User-Controlled implementation rather than a Monopoly-Controlled implementation. SecureBoot is (currently, on x86 but not arm) _also_ user-controlled

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-05-31 Thread Gerry Reno
On 05/31/2012 05:47 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2012-05-31 at 16:31 -0400, Gerry Reno wrote: On 05/31/2012 04:26 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Gerry Reno gr...@verizon.net wrote: And I'd rather see a User-Controlled implementation rather than a Monopoly

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-05-31 Thread Gerry Reno
On 05/31/2012 09:14 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Chris Adams wrote: - Secure boot is required to be able to be disabled on x86 (the only platform Fedora will support it). And this is exactly why we should just require our users to disable it! I don't see any advantage at all from supporting this

Re: SSD drives

2012-05-25 Thread Gerry Reno
On 05/25/2012 04:40 AM, Roberto Ragusa wrote: On 05/24/2012 03:20 PM, Gerry Reno wrote: Since I'm putting an SSD in my laptop this is important because the laptop drive must be encrypted. I hope your CPU has AES-NI. A powerful i7 does AES at 50MiB/s (don't remember exactly, but below 100MiB

Re: SSD drives

2012-05-24 Thread Gerry Reno
On 05/24/2012 04:45 AM, drago01 wrote: On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Juan Orti Alcaine j.orti.alca...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/5/24 Gerry Reno gr...@verizon.net What does Fedora do currently, if anything, to optimize for solid-state drives (SSD). Things like swap and logging can generate

SSD drives

2012-05-23 Thread Gerry Reno
What does Fedora do currently, if anything, to optimize for solid-state drives (SSD). Things like swap and logging can generate a huge number of writes. So I suppose those should maybe be placed on a rotating drive if one is available but if not does Fedora do anything to reduce the amount of

RealHotspot availability

2012-05-18 Thread Gerry Reno
In looking back through some of the meeting minutes I saw that RealHotspot has been approved for Fedora 18. === #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2012-03-19) === Meeting started by limburgher at 18:00:23 UTC. The full logs

Re: RealHotspot availability

2012-05-18 Thread Gerry Reno
On 05/18/2012 09:42 PM, Dan Williams wrote: On Fri, 2012-05-18 at 18:21 -0400, Gerry Reno wrote: In looking back through some of the meeting minutes I saw that RealHotspot has been approved for Fedora 18. === #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2012-03-19

Re: default media size [Was: Proposed F18 feature: MiniDebugInfo]

2012-05-15 Thread Gerry Reno
On 05/14/2012 08:15 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Mon, 2012-05-14 at 11:49 -0700, John Reiser wrote: On 05/12/2012 09:51 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:00:48AM -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: So the set of people we'd be inconveniencing is exactly the set of people with no

Re: default media size [Was: Proposed F18 feature: MiniDebugInfo]

2012-05-15 Thread Gerry Reno
On 05/15/2012 12:21 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Tue, 2012-05-15 at 09:52 -0400, Gerry Reno wrote: The most important issue in this thread is ability to boot from USB2.0. No, it isn't. mjg59 wrote: the inability to boot from anything larger than a CD and no USB ports that can

Re: default media size [Was: Proposed F18 feature: MiniDebugInfo]

2012-05-09 Thread Gerry Reno
If you watch, you can get DVD burners for about $15 USD. eg: http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/62972/newegg-liteon-external-cddvd-burner-w-lightscribe-support Or used for about $5-$10 at any flea market. On 05/09/2012 04:33 PM, drago01 wrote: On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 10:07 PM, Jaroslav Reznik

Re: default media size [Was: Proposed F18 feature: MiniDebugInfo]

2012-05-09 Thread Gerry Reno
On 05/09/2012 05:34 PM, John Reiser wrote: On 05/09/2012 01:33 PM, drago01 wrote: On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 10:07 PM, Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com wrote: I'd like to break CD limit too but we should not forgot there are users for which CD is top technology from dreams and we have a lot of

F16: compile shotwell 0.12

2012-03-28 Thread Gerry Reno
Shotwell 0.10 has a nasty event name corruption bug so I thought I would try to compile 0.12 from source. I installed the dependencies: # yum install vala GConf2-devel libgee-devel libgexiv2-devel glib2-devel gstreamer-devel gstreamer-plugins-base-devel gtk3-devel libgudev1-devel libexif-devel

Re: Booting Fedora from LVM with grub2

2012-03-23 Thread Gerry Reno
On 03/23/2012 11:26 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 23.03.2012 16:19, schrieb Michael Cronenworth: David Lehman wrote: I was able to complete an install of F17-Alpha just now with all lvm. I had to force the use of MSDOS disklabel instead of GPT (used parted's mklabel command on tty2

Fedora 16 and Firefox 11 crashing hard

2012-03-22 Thread Gerry Reno
If I might interrupt this non-stop streaming ARM discussion for just a second, is anyone else having problems with Firefox 11 in Fedora 16? Firefox is crashing hard, as in shutting down the entire computer. And this is happening quite frequently. Firefox is stock. No addons, or changes.

Re: Fedora 16 and Firefox 11 crashing hard

2012-03-22 Thread Gerry Reno
On 03/22/2012 05:20 PM, Gerry Reno wrote: On 03/22/2012 05:13 PM, Heiko Adams wrote: Am 22.03.2012 22:04, schrieb Gerry Reno: If I might interrupt this non-stop streaming ARM discussion for just a second, is anyone else having problems with Firefox 11 in Fedora 16? Firefox

Re: Fedora 16 and Firefox 11 crashing hard

2012-03-22 Thread Gerry Reno
On 03/22/2012 07:44 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Mar 22, 2012, at 4:58 PM, Gerry Reno wrote: Just odd that Firefox is the only app causing the problem. I'll let memtest run a while. Yeah different apps have different memory requirements so it just may be doing something a little

Re: Fedora 16 and Firefox 11 crashing hard

2012-03-22 Thread Gerry Reno
On 03/22/2012 09:18 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Mar 22, 2012, at 6:58 PM, Gerry Reno wrote: So I played around with the encryption settings and when I disabled TLS the crashes stopped. At least so far. I haven't had a crash in a couple hours now. Change them back, reproduce

Re: Fedora 16 and Firefox 11 crashing hard

2012-03-22 Thread Gerry Reno
On 03/22/2012 10:00 PM, Gerry Reno wrote: On 03/22/2012 09:18 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Mar 22, 2012, at 6:58 PM, Gerry Reno wrote: So I played around with the encryption settings and when I disabled TLS the crashes stopped. At least so far. I haven't had a crash

Re: Fedora 16 and Firefox 11 crashing hard

2012-03-22 Thread Gerry Reno
On 03/23/2012 12:50 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Mar 22, 2012, at 8:00 PM, Gerry Reno wrote: On 03/22/2012 09:18 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Mar 22, 2012, at 6:58 PM, Gerry Reno wrote: So I played around with the encryption settings and when I disabled TLS the crashes

Fwd: Fedora 16 w/encrypted filesystem: unable to boot Xen kernels

2012-03-21 Thread Gerry Reno
kernels Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 14:03:25 -0400 From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk konrad.w...@oracle.com To: Gerry Reno gr...@verizon.net CC: xen-de...@lists.xensource.com On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 01:04:42PM -0400, Gerry Reno wrote: I installed Fedora 16 on my laptop and selected encrypted

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