Re: Heads up; F22 will require applications to ship appdata to be listed in software center

2014-01-26 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
On 01/26/2014 12:18 PM, Heiko Adams wrote: Am Sonntag, den 26.01.2014, 12:14 +0100 schrieb Lars E. Pettersson: ... Would it not be better to have a 'software center' that includes ALL software available, be they GUI related or not? Probably based on rpm-packages, as that is what

Re: Heads up; F22 will require applications to ship appdata to be listed in software center

2014-01-26 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
plication' correlates to a rpm-package? Application means GUI application that has a .desktop file. That makes the 'software center' of lesser use, as the user will be confused when he/she does not find the program/rpm-package/application he/she wants to install. Lars -- Lars

Re: Heads up; F22 will require applications to ship appdata to be listed in software center

2014-01-26 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
ng something obvious here? How does 'application' correlates to a rpm-package? Lars -- Lars E. Pettersson http://www.sm6rpz.se/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: dnf versus yum

2014-01-06 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
umentation, and everyone knows about it. Regarding 'real world'. Correct, that's why I wrote "...if they are not documented, then it is a documentation bug.", and that's how it should be treated. Lars -- Lars E. Pettersson http://www.sm6rpz.se/ -- devel mailing list d

Re: dnf versus yum

2014-01-06 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
cumentation. He/she should not need to try things, they should be documented, if they are not documented, then it is a documentation bug. Lars -- Lars E. Pettersson http://www.sm6rpz.se/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/deve

Re: dnf versus yum

2014-01-06 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
On 01/06/2014 02:06 PM, Vít Ondruch wrote: Dne 6.1.2014 13:31, Lars E. Pettersson napsal(a): ... What would be the point in removing the running kernel? Is there actually such a use case? Lars Why are you asking? May be you should let your imagination run riot. Why? Isn't that obviou

Re: dnf versus yum

2014-01-06 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
On 01/06/2014 12:43 PM, Vít Ondruch wrote: Otherwise, I totally agree with Chris and with DNF upstream. "dnf remove kernel" should remove every kernel and should not behave magically. What would be the point in removing the running kernel? Is there actually such a use case? Lars

Re: dnf versus yum

2014-01-06 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
On 01/05/2014 07:24 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: Three documentation "bugs" out of a side track of a thread is not a terrible thread, in my opinion... Yum auto completion missing erase: <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1048714> dnf man page missing to mentio

Re: dnf versus yum

2014-01-06 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
On 01/06/2014 08:13 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Mon, 2014-01-06 at 08:01 +0100, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: On 01/06/2014 12:46 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: ... If it exists for backward compatibility, it doesn't necessarily need to be documented. Ehh? Why? Could you elaborate? I don&

Re: dnf versus yum

2014-01-05 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
On 01/06/2014 12:46 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Sun, 2014-01-05 at 19:24 +0100, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: ... As I mentioned before I only auto completed yum, remove is not party of the auto completed commands. If remove should be there, then this is a bug. I will file one. dnf has no auto

Re: dnf versus yum

2014-01-05 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
e rpm installed you can download the yum rpm, and re-install yum, so why protects it? Could it be because yum has a user perspective, making it a tad harder for the non technically oriented user to do bad things to the system? Leaving the bad things to the more technically oriented user? Lars -

Re: dnf versus yum

2014-01-05 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
On 01/05/2014 07:24 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: As I mentioned before I only auto completed yum, remove is not party of the auto completed commands. If remove should be there, then this is a bug. I will file one. Pressed send a bit too early. Should of course be 'erase' here, no

Re: dnf versus yum

2014-01-05 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
On 01/05/2014 07:07 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Sun, 2014-01-05 at 10:04 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: On Sun, 2014-01-05 at 10:27 +0100, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: ... The running kernel should not be removed with a simple 'dnf erase kernel' (why did they change remove into erase

Re: dnf versus yum

2014-01-05 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
On 01/05/2014 12:02 PM, Dridi Boukelmoune wrote: On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: On 01/05/2014 09:23 AM, Mattia Verga wrote: why did they change remove into erase? Yum actually offers both erase and remove for the same purpose. I don't know which is an ali

Re: dnf versus yum

2014-01-05 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
x86_64 GNU/Linux $ dnf erase kernel-3.12.6-300.fc20.x86_64 The same thing could be said about other packages now protected in yum. Please protect them in the same way in dnf. Lars -- Lars E. Pettersson http://www.sm6rpz.se/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject

Re: dnf versus yum

2014-01-04 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
be spared, in my opinion. <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=976704> Lars -- Lars E. Pettersson http://www.sm6rpz.se/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Sendmail

2013-07-25 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
Transaction Summary Upgrade 19 Packages The updates were successfully applied -- Lars E. Pettersson http://www.sm6rpz.se/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Sendmail

2013-07-20 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
o the person in charge on that computer. Perhaps this should be mentioned in the installation guide or something, or even done in anaconda? Lars -- Lars E. Pettersson http://www.sm6rpz.se/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Sendmail

2013-07-20 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
haps a bad thing to clog up the logs with that? Lars -- Lars E. Pettersson http://www.sm6rpz.se/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel