On 05/09/2010 06:09 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
I'm tempted to agree in practice with Matej that it is. I don't think we
can kid ourselves that we're doing a particularly good job of making a
desktop for end users; if we were, we wouldn't be being trashed by
Ubuntu in this area (let alone OS X
On 05/09/2010 01:45 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
lets go over a couple of things to help lower the grumpiness of others.
A good summary which shows care and thoughtfulness - please add also
the question:
4) For servers (distinct from the desktop use case) - which would be
the better
On 05/05/2010 09:35 AM, Miroslav Lichvar wrote:
With the latest improvements in the chrony package related to
NetworkManager and name resolving I think it is now good enough to
replace ntpd in the default configuration and the configurations
supported by system-config-date.
Strong NO vote.
On 04/27/2010 05:58 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
The OP had an issue w. thunderbird - which many find to be a pretty
decent mail client.
This thread has morphed ...
As for Firefox, I'd actually prefer to put fedora effort behind
chromium - google-chrome is an order of magnitude better than
On 04/25/2010 01:37 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote:
I think you are grossly misjudging the relative visibility and
importance of the Firefox and Fedora brands... nobody knows what Fedora
is, while most computer users will have at least heard about Firefox.
Agreed a fortiori - in fact
On 04/25/2010 06:21 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Can someone explain why the fedora version has a bug which upstream
version does not ? Or am I missing something ?
--
devel mailing list
devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
On 04/25/2010 07:17 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
The upstream version has that bug too, they just don't care about it enough
to release a fixed version in a timely manner.
OH - FYI, I am running upstream and I don't have that problem ... can
disconnect the network all i want .. no crash.
--
On 04/22/2010 08:30 PM, John Poelstra wrote:
An unofficial patched version would be better than the current situation.
John
FWIW - I use the nightly builds from mozilla.org .. no crashes at all
with 3.1 nightly - be aware if you use enigmail, that versions after the
4/05 build do not work
On 04/09/2010 09:42 AM, Adam Jackson wrote:
ignored from then on?
Depends on your laptop. There seem to be two major varieties.
One is where there's a BIOS option and you can pick. Your options will
typically be integrated (where we'll pick intel), discrete (where
we'll pick nouveau),
On 04/08/2010 08:56 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 08:27:12PM -0400, Mail Lists wrote:
On 04/07/2010 08:21 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
Well, I would think that if you boot with the Intel adapter active, it
wouldn't power up the NVIDIA one. But I'm just guessing :)
I
On 04/07/2010 01:47 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 13:12 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
Ah, wasn't aware of that. Thanks.
Also I think without the switcheroo the power consumption may be a lot
higher (rumor- is that true ?) - lowering power consumption on the
unused card may
On 04/07/2010 08:21 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 20:10 -0400, Mail Lists wrote:
On 04/07/2010 01:47 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 13:12 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
Ah, wasn't aware of that. Thanks.
Also I think without the switcheroo the power
I just got an Asus UL30vt which has dual graphics (onbaord intel and
nvidia) - I am aware of some work by Dave Airlie in this area -
Anyone share the status of whether this might be usable (via cli or
other) in f13 (or f12 for that matter!)
Thanks!
gene
--
devel mailing list
I like fedora beacause it is both up to date and stable.
I also am admin for a several non tech users - and frankly if there is
an Aunt Tilly out there using fedora she never installed it - one of us
did - and we maintain it - and we speak for Aunt Tilly.
And if you ask Aunt Tilly -
, in my view, a competent administrator as well.
I believe, as a competent admin, I am capable of choosing how to
manage my computers and which ones I need to be more cautious with etc.
That said, I believe I these 'fedora' tinkerers - thos who read the
mail lists etc are not only admin'ing
On 03/07/2010 12:43 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
No but I have been on that list for five years and follow a lot more
I've been with it since early redhat days ...
First, may I suggest we not confuse version N-1 and assumtion of
stability. That is way too simplistic. Sometimes the best path
On 03/07/2010 03:39 PM, Mike McGrath wrote:
Very well, I retract badly worded and insert not useful. But hey, it's
generated more email right?
-Mike
Newer and less stable - using your words - is way more leading (and
totally false) than what Adam did ...
polls can certainly be
On 03/07/2010 04:41 PM, Mike McGrath wrote:
This is my last email on this topic. Please hold me to that.
-Mike
Sorry - missed that - what did you say ? :-)
--
devel mailing list
devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
On 02/28/2010 06:25 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
drago01 wrote:
There has been a draft a while ago which did not result into much
discussion ..
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Desktop/Whiteboards/UpdateExperience
Which looks pretty sane to me.
It looks very insane to me:
* only critical
On 02/27/2010 03:13 AM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 12:52 AM, James Antill wrote:
On Sat, 2010-02-27 at 01:36 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
My point is that there are plenty of users who want the current updates or
even more updates.
Citation needed
Just a few out of so
On 02/27/2010 10:38 AM, Mike McGrath wrote:
in today. Next time a user tells you I want a newer X tell them
Upgrade to rawhide.
-Mike
In my opinion rawhide is NOT a rolling release at all. Please stop
telling people to use rawhide as a rolling release. it isnt.
--
devel mailing
On 02/27/2010 12:33 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 11:30:52 -0500,
Mail Lists li...@sapience.com wrote:
[speaking of which where on earth is 2.6.32.9 ]
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=158902
And if you want the latest 2.6.33 build:
http
On 02/27/2010 12:33 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 11:30:52 -0500,
Mail Lists li...@sapience.com wrote:
[speaking of which where on earth is 2.6.32.9 ]
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=158902
Thank you .. but I really meant where are as far
On 02/27/2010 01:23 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
Why wouldn't you want try the koji version if you were willing to try an
updates-testing version? If it doesn't work for you, you boot the previous
kernel, pretty much the same as when there is a bad test version.
Me ? I am running koji
On 02/15/2010 09:12 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 11:25:03 +0100,
Roberto Ragusa m...@robertoragusa.it wrote:
The obvious way to call something which is not 13, but is something
a little less than 13 is 12.9, but I agree with you that it would be better
to have 13 in
On 02/14/2010 11:24 AM, Jesse Keating wrote:
How do you easily answer the question What state is Fedora 13 in right
now?
We can say It's in rawhide still, we can say It's released, what we
don't have is what it is between those two. We could potentially use
It's in Alpha, it's in Beta,
On 02/13/2010 01:34 PM, Jesse Keating wrote:
On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 11:07 -0500, Mail Lists wrote:
Pre or Prerelease was the name we used to use for Beta, so that's
not saving any confusion there :/
Ok - how about 13-dev ... or 13-frontier .. or 13-alpha .. or even
13-not-yet-beta
On 02/10/2010 08:00 PM, Mat Booth wrote:
Meh.
If you insist on putting out major updates for released Fedoras it
will never a good time to do a re-spin. Oh well.
I find it simpler to build my own spin anyway using mock/pungi - its
very simple - simpler in my view than dealing with
On 01/30/2010 02:54 PM, Mat Booth wrote:
Well there's the Java and Totem plugins at least, but there's a whole
slew of apps in Fedora that build against xulrunner:
I think we need to use sun java as green tea is not yet on new api
anyway is it?
repoquery --whatrequires --alldeps
On 01/30/2010 05:37 PM, Mat Booth wrote:
Maybe but I agree with Braden: I don't think it's worth it. Seems like
a lot of extra work for not a lot of gain.
I much prefer chrome and use it preferentially now anyway ... I'd
prefer we put any broswer related energy into chromium - it is
On 01/17/2010 11:57 AM, Christoph Wickert wrote:
Am Sonntag, den 17.01.2010, 15:53 +0100 schrieb Jiri Moskovcak:
On 01/16/2010 04:01 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote:
I'm open to any ideas how to improve this.
Someone else asked this earlier - but why do users need the debug-info
packages -
On 01/17/2010 01:20 PM, Tony Nelson wrote:
Apparently Linux has no mini-dump facility, so the upload of the whole
core dump file would be onerous as well.
I'd still bet a core file is smaller than the 60 - 100 debug packages
(per crashing app) I need before I can send a trace back.
--
32 matches
Mail list logo
