Re: Current minimal base image for containers?

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Current minimal base image for containers?

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Remote wipe options for Fedora?

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Re: Aggressive updating (Python 3.9): Are we trying to hard?

lump. But on the 3.x series, the fragmentation over 3.x releases is a tractable problem, with a current and next stack. IMHO :) m On Thu, May 21, 2020, 9:18 AM Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > > On Thu, 21 May 2020 at 08:49, Martin Langhoff > wrote: > >> On Wed, Ma

Re: Aggressive updating (Python 3.9): Are we trying to hard?

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Re: armv7l status?

> > Lubomir Rintel has been working on OLPC XO-1.75 and XO-4 support for > Fedora rawhide. > > Alex Perez has mentioned that OLPC XO-1.75 can boot Fedora latest with > some care. > > On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 09:25:54AM -0400, Martin Langhoff wrote: > > Looping in Ja

Re: armv7l status?

Looping in James Cameron - as recently as Jan 2020 he's made a release for armv7l http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2020-January/039079.html hth ~ martin On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 9:21 AM Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 9:14 AM Michael Catanzaro > wrote: > >

Re: armv7l status?

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Re: Code of Conduct issue

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Re: CoC

-- there's endless mailing list threads and blogposts. take care, martin On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 11:29 PM Ty Young wrote: > > On 3/19/20 10:03 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > > Oh my - Daniel and his sock puppets come to bring mayhem to Fedora-devel? > > some background

Re: CoC

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Re: Changelog between OS states (ie: VMs)

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Re: Changelog between OS states (ie: VMs)

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Re: Changelog between OS states (ie: VMs)

On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 1:19 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia <nka...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 12:59 PM, Martin Langhoff > <martin.langh...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I have two VMs, or OS states I can `rpm -qa` on. Is there a script to >> diff the output of th

Changelog between OS states (ie: VMs)

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Re: Switch a package from noarch to arch - current guidelines?

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Switch a package from noarch to arch - current guidelines?

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Re: journal-triggerd, interest, alternatives?

le working for Fedora. cheers, m On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 1:52 PM, Rich Megginson <rmegg...@redhat.com> wrote: > On 02/15/2017 11:31 AM, Martin Langhoff wrote: >> >> On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 11:19 AM, Rich Megginson <rmegg...@redhat.com> >> wrote: >>> >&

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dnf system upgrade has zero progress on text boot (`quiet no rhgb`)

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Re: Debugging NetworkManager-openvpn -- procedure?

On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Thomas Haller wrote: > https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/NetworkManager/Debugging#Debugging_NetworkManager-openvpn > > still works for me on F23 (nm-1-0). good to hear! I'm on F23 right now. The top of that page says it's all stale due to

Re: Debugging NetworkManager-openvpn -- procedure?

On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 12:16 PM, Martin Langhoff <martin.langh...@gmail.com> wrote: > Having a hard time with an OpenVPN network, where logs in journald > don't show anything of interest yet nm-openvpn quits. To answer my own question: - Create /usr/libexec/nm-openvpn-service-de

Debugging NetworkManager-openvpn -- procedure?

Having a hard time with an OpenVPN network, where logs in journald don't show anything of interest yet nm-openvpn quits. What is the right procedure to pass the --debug flag to nm-openvpn these days (i.e.: F23/F24)? Everything I find is seriously outdated. Recent bz entries I reviewed didn't

Re: librsvg2 breakage in rawhide

On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > We are working on a fix for pkgdb now. Thank you! m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first ~

librsvg2 breakage in rawhide

Hoping to raise the profile of BZ#1311814 ; seems to break anything that requires graphviz. That's a good chunk of the distro. It initially broke Elixir builds, I just got notification about ejabberd. cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com - ask interesting questions - don't get

Re: Erlang busted on i386 on rawhide... workaround for erlang-based packages?

Hi Peter(s), On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 5:37 AM, Peter Lemenkov wrote: > Yes, that's a known issue I'm trying to address now. I've got a > possible fix from upstream developers, so things are getting better. That's great to hear. Am I tracking the right BZ# with BZ#1240487?

Re: Erlang busted on i386 on rawhide... workaround for erlang-based packages?

, Feb 9, 2016 at 7:10 PM, Martin Langhoff <martin.langh...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi folks, > > trying to upload a new release of elixir, I am butting into something that > looks and smells a lot like BZ#1240487 -- the (noarch) rpm builds nicely on > x86_64 but the erlang runtime

Erlang busted on i386 on rawhide... workaround for erlang-based packages?

Hi folks, trying to upload a new release of elixir, I am butting into something that looks and smells a lot like BZ#1240487 -- the (noarch) rpm builds nicely on x86_64 but the erlang runtime segfaults every time on i386. This FTBS repros for me on koji and under mockbuild locally (x66_64 f23).

Re: We want to stop systemd from being added to docker images, because of rpm requiring systemctl.

On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.netwrote: don't get me wrong but you are talking bullshit Reindl, your SNR is way way high. Maybe try sending /less/ emails, concentrating in being clear and helpful? Don't worry, there is _always_ someone who's wrong on the

Re: We want to stop systemd from being added to docker images, because of rpm requiring systemctl.

On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.netwrote: defense in depth means limit the attack surface as much as you can As folks are trying to point out to you, these principles are well understood in this group. However, _any minimally usable environment will have a

Re: We want to stop systemd from being added to docker images, because of rpm requiring systemctl.

On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 5:28 PM, Chris Adams li...@cmadams.net wrote: Once upon a time, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net said: however, thank you to show me that any discussion with you is worthless Right back at you. The CoC does say a few things on this topic. I am finding Reindl's

Re: F21 Self Contained Change: Remote Journal Logging

On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 5:08 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek zbys...@in.waw.pl wrote: So I'll ask you about this other aspect -- what about stateless clients with very limited or no local storage? Not supported by this, unfortunately. There needs to be at least temporary storage in tmpfs for

Re: F21 Self Contained Change: Remote Journal Logging

On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com wrote: The communication between the two daemons is done over standard HTTPS, Interesting. One quirk of current syslog-style remote logging over UDP is that it is fairly tolerant to dataloss. With quite a bit of experience in

Re: F21 Self Contained Change: Remote Journal Logging

On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek zbys...@in.waw.pl wrote: the upload client is like any other journal client -- it is fully asynchronous wrt. to journald writing log entries. (It's something like 'journalctl -o export|curl -X POST https://some.where/upload'.)

Re: fedora-atomic discussion point: /usr/lib/passwd

On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 2:33 AM, Colin Walters walt...@verbum.org wrote: One way to fix this that goes with my general direction of moving things out of %post into systemd: a dynamic uid reservation system that saves state persistently. Crudely, this would be ExecStartPre=/usr/sbin/useradd -r

Re: fedora-atomic discussion point: /usr/lib/passwd

On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 12:49 PM, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote: On Fri, 11.04.14 16:09, Colin Walters (walt...@verbum.org) wrote: On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: If you move in this direction, you have to create files/dirs

Re: trimming down Fedora installed size

On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de wrote: So, I'd question the usefulness of not installing man-pages, because their sizes are comparatively small on today's disk-scales, e.g. on my primary system: # du -sh /usr/share/man 89M /usr/share/man That's almost

Re: trimming down Fedora installed size

On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com wrote: It's more about getting to the point of being able to remove them and or have the option not to install them. See my other email on this thread. Following on what I wrote there, instead of reworking all the

Re: systemd bugs in F20/F21 - bug against the distribution?

On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 03.04.2014 20:00, schrieb Adam Jackson: On Thu, 2014-04-03 at 19:31 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: and if someone asks why i called Lennart in #1072368 names We didn't, and no justification would matter. It's not

Re: systemd bugs in F20/F21 - bug against the distribution?

On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:41 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 03.04.2014 22:32, schrieb Adam Williamson: On Thu, 2014-04-03 at 19:31 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: will that below ever get fixed in F20? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1072368 The developer does not

Re: F20: what connects the lid switch to triggering suspend?

On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 8:45 PM, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.dewrote: Normally when you close the lid logind should log something about Lid closed or so... Look around the logs around this to figure out what mightbe going on. Thanks -- this has worked and led me to a local service

Re: Maybe it's time to get rid of tcpwrappers/tcpd?

On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Orion Poplawski or...@cora.nwra.com wrote: What gives you the impression that fail2ban is crusty? It's being actively developed upstream and integrates with firewalld now. Are those particularly onerous dependencies? and with journal integration,

Re: Maybe it's time to get rid of tcpwrappers/tcpd?

On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 6:16 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com wrote: In other words you are telling us that now to get something implemented or removed in Fedora we have to not only deal with our usual politics and bureaucracy but also all the downstream distribution to us as

Re: Maybe it's time to get rid of tcpwrappers/tcpd?

On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.dewrote: I wonder whether it wouldn't be time to say goodbye to tcpwrappers in Fedora. There has been a request in systemd upstream to disable support As Stephen points out, they are used. Does systemd+xinetd match their

Re: Maybe it's time to get rid of tcpwrappers/tcpd?

On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 8:00 PM, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.dewrote: A firewall has mechanisms to filter for all domains, however only covering a smaller number of generic, low-level matches and actions. From a usability PoV, /etc/hosts.{allow,deny} is good. I wonder if teaching

Re: Maybe it's time to get rid of tcpwrappers/tcpd?

On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 8:04 PM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 8:00 PM, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.dewrote: A firewall has mechanisms to filter for all domains, however only covering a smaller number of generic, low-level matches

Re: F20: what connects the lid switch to triggering suspend?

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F20: what connects the lid switch to triggering suspend?

My Lenovo X220, running up-to-date F20 occasionally gets into a state where closing the laptop lid does not trigger suspend. I want to narrow down on the problem, but I'm slightly lost on how the signal is routed through the stack. udev-?- systemd-suspend - kernel ? thank you! m --

Re: F20: what connects the lid switch to triggering suspend?

On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 6:38 PM, Andrew Lutomirski l...@mit.edu wrote: I wonder whether this is related to the fact that, on most Lenovos, if you press the suspect button twice without waiting long enough, the second press is ignored. Seems unlikelye. I am very careful with double-presses,

Re: ostree/fedora atomic and impact on the mirror network

On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 9:10 AM, Colin Walters walt...@verbum.org wrote: Remember OSTree is a content-addressed object store (like git), not a chain of deltas (like Subversion, and other systems out there such as Chromium Autoupdate, and Docker). Ouch -- so updates fetch EVERY file regardless

Re: Per-Product Config file divergence

On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 3:56 PM, Stephen Gallagher sgall...@redhat.com wrote: 2) If we allow switching between products, we probably have to treat the entire Product configuration of a package as a single unit. ok. Edits to somefile.conf would change whatever's on the other end of the link.

Re: Per-Product Config file divergence

On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 4:30 PM, Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com wrote: It may be that vanilla alternatives is unsuitable but we want something alternatives-like (an external tool that updates the config file) rather than something based on rpm metadata (Conflicts which causes you to have

Re: Per-Product Config file divergence

On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 11:27 PM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: What's wrong with just dropping the defaults in /etc in the Product's live kickstart? (Yes, that assumes the Product is delivered as a live image. We For server images, Live isn't so hot. Can anaconda be taught to

Re: ostree/fedora atomic and impact on the mirror network

On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Colin Walters walt...@verbum.org wrote: One model I'd like to aim for here is we say the repository will take up at most N GB (where e.g. N=100) and we keep an intelligently-scheduled series of snapshots, like backup systems do. What happens to a client that

Re: F21 System Wide Change: System-wide crypto policy

On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com wrote: Unify the crypto policies used by different applications and libraries. That is allow setting a consistent security level for crypto on all applications in a Fedora system. As others have noted, crypto tech

Re: F20: Puppet depchain pulls in Java

On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Vít Ondruch vondr...@redhat.com wrote: Seems to be bug. Haven't seen any bug report from you yet, so I did one for you: https://github.com/bkabrda/rubypick/issues/4 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/rubypick-1.1.1-1.fc20

F20: Puppet depchain pulls in Java

Puppet (the client side, at least) should be installable with relatively thin deps, so it can manage lightweight hosts... I am having trouble disentangling which deps to file a bug against; maybe virt-what ? [martin@tp-martin puppet-rlgold.git]$ sudo yum install puppet [sudo] password for

Re: F20: Puppet depchain pulls in Java

On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 5:07 PM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: Puppet (the client side, at least) should be installable with relatively thin deps, so it can manage lightweight hosts... I am having trouble disentangling which deps to file a bug against; maybe virt-what

Re: F20: Puppet depchain pulls in Java

On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote: You need to make sure your transaction is pulling in classic ruby rather than jruby. Well, ideally something in the dep data should indicate a preference, and the depsolver should handle that. What's happening however

Re: dnf versus yum

On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: This one is clearly one of those doomed to repeat history things in motion. It seems to me that dbf has to strike an impossible balance. Asking that dnf supports every yum behavior would negate the benefit of having

Re: dnf versus yum

On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 5:21 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: with my software-developer hat on the opposite is true I discussed yum internals quite a bit with Seth in past years. Every change I proposed met a wall of backwards compatibility. Turns out that there are many very

Re: mechanism to retain system library versions

On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote: 2) somehow build against f20 libs on an f19 system? this is trivially done using mock. Actually, what I do, even for non-public builds, is to have a spec file in a git repository and build/rebuild the rpm using fedpkg.

Re: mechanism to retain system library versions

Neal, look like you've found the one thing fedora devel has consensus on ;-) Here is a series of git repos that show how I was maintaining some rpms outside of the fedora infra, but using fedpkg (which I recommend) -- more specifically mockbuild. These repos are public, but you can do the same

Re: mechanism to retain system library versions

Ah! http://dev.laptop.org/git/packages/ cheers, m On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote: Hey thanks! But did you forget to include a link to the git repos? Martin Langhoff wrote: Neal, look like you've found the one thing fedora devel has consensus

Re: Multiple Loopback Interfaces

On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Juan Orti Alcaine juan.o...@miceliux.com wrote: In IPv4 you can get any IP in the 127.0.0.0/8 subnet for the lo interface. And in current fedora, they are already assigned to localhost. You can ping 127.0.0.22 if you want. AIUI, you can bind to it freely, too.

Re: Fedora as an crowd founded project an additional funding source to our sponsor

On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 9:50 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com wrote: I gave the quick answer through donations Reading through this thread, it seems to me that you are wanting to change something you don't understand. While I am not a RH employee, I have been deeply involved in

Re: Fedora as an crowd founded project an additional funding source to our sponsor

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com wrote: Agree that's one way of figuring out but ( share number of servers/cpu/storage ) honestly i would have thought the infrastructure team would already know this. Well, luckily you never have to know everything

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Sendmail

On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Billy Crook billycr...@gmail.com wrote: Sendmail or otherwise, an MTA BELONGS in Default. There is no consensus on that, at all. Very successful competitors to Fedora have removed it, and their users are happy. m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com - ask

Re: RFC: Proposal for a more agile Fedora.next (draft of my Flock talk)

On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: This proposal is for a solid core which can be targeted by software stacks, which can be targeted by developers. Oh, initially I understood you were aiming for a fast-moving, highly integrated core, following

Re: RFC: Proposal for a more agile Fedora.next (draft of my Flock talk)

On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Miloslav Trmač m...@volny.cz wrote: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: This is a draft of the proposal I'm presenting at Flock, An Architecture for a More Agile Fedora (http://sched.co/19ugKGM). (The more

Re: F20 System Wide Change: SSD cache

On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 7:47 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby miham...@rktmb.org wrote: One thing I would recommend would be to correctly detect SSD: ATM, I installed my Fedora over an SSD and it did not ajust the mount settings nor suggest an appropriate setting for the SSD. If we can at least

Re: F20 System Wide Change: SSD cache

On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 7:47 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby miham...@rktmb.org wrote: One thing I would recommend would be to correctly

Re: F20 System Wide Change: SSD cache

, 2013 at 12:21:57PM -0400, Martin Langhoff wrote: Would you run tuned on a server? It was written with that in mind. -- Matthew Garrett | mj...@srcf.ucam.org -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- martin.langh

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote: (Just to mention this: we are neither the pioneer on the no-default-syslog feature nor on no-default-sendmail... A lot of other As a cross-distro chap, I can attest to this. Specially with sendmail. Everytime I

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote: You'd usually mount your journal files dir, then direct journalctl -D /path/to/the/journal/files/dir to it. It will then collect all files in that dir, interleave them and present them to you. Thanks! And that -D

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Chris Adams li...@cmadams.net wrote: And, despite your statement to the contrary, journalctl (without -f) Hey Chris! You might be hitting a bug, have a surprising pager envvar or something. My general experience is that it does page things. I don't think there's

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Chris Adams li...@cmadams.net wrote: It's a feature you don't get traditionally because syslog drops the priority information from the on-disk format. I'd expect that if somebody thought that was an important default, the log format would have been updated

Installing a very old Fedora (FC6) in a chroot?

To test / bench / verify old behaviour of PHP4, I need to install FC6 in a chroot. Mock doesn't seem to work, given a reasoanble config file pointing to the archive repo. Are there any good / recommended alternatives? Or is mock expected to work? cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com -

Re: Installing a very old Fedora (FC6) in a chroot?

On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Remi Collet fed...@famillecollet.com wrote: Le 12/06/2013 14:44, Martin Langhoff a écrit : To test / bench / verify old behaviour of PHP4, I need to install FC6 in a chroot. Perhaps http://3v4l.org/ could help you ? It does for a quick check, thanks! I

Re: Installing a very old Fedora (FC6) in a chroot?

On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org wrote: I have working local mock configs for F-6 and a variety of other ancient releases. In what way does yours not work? Great to know it works! I was worried changes in yum/rpm meant it wouldn't. The main local changes I have

Re: Installing a very old Fedora (FC6) in a chroot?

On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Przemek Klosowski przemek.klosow...@nist.gov wrote: My approach for non-standard versions is to pull the relevant source RPM and just build it in the existing/convenient environment. That doesn't always work so well. Try building an old openldap src rpm (say,

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Dracut HostOnly

On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 6:22 PM, Dennis Gilmore den...@ausil.us wrote: that are built at kernel build time? the issue with building it at build time was making sure we knew exactly what sourcs we needed to ship to match all the binaries in the initramfs. the initramfs's we build and ship as

Re: Anaconda is totally trashing the F18 schedule (was Re: f18: how to install into a LVM partitions (or RAID))

On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote: It's important to recognise the negative effects of delays to the release. OLPC is downstream of F18, and planning to ship an OLPC OS version 13.1.0 first week of December 2012 (approx); which will be based on F18. We are not

Changing date and ntpdate utilities to accomodate systemd's change of rtc handling

Changes stemming from the switch to systemd mean that if you set the system clock with ntpdate or date and you are not running ntpd... your changes are not recorded in the RTC, ever. There are some good reasons for this change, but at this time only the systemd side is done, leaving date,

Re: Announcing OLPC OS 12.1.0 for XO-1, XO-1.5 and XO-1.75

On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: We're pleased to announce the release of OLPC OS 12.1.0 for XO-1, XO-1.5 and XO-1.75. Details of new features, known issues, and how to Congrats to all the team! Good press coverage at

A preupgrade adventure - F16 to F17

Just an informational anecdote. My main dev machine is a vanilla Lenovo X220 laptop, running an up-to-date F16. At OLPC, we are damned close to *shipping* a F17-based distro on our XO laptops, so I thought it'd be good to update. Worried about /usr move, I decided to DTRT: use preupgrade. First,

Re: A preupgrade adventure - F16 to F17

On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 6:55 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: Um. I think you might be working from a completely false premise. If you did a fresh install of Fedora 16 you should have grub2. Not grub. Hmmm. This laptop has had F14, but IIRC it got a wipe-and-reinstall treatment.

Re: A preupgrade adventure - F16 to F17

On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, 2012-07-20 at 19:26 +, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 6:55 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: Um. I think you might be working from a completely false premise. If you did

Re: Licensing change: Audacious - GPLv3 -- BSD

On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net wrote: Please consider that in the Oracle vs Google case, Oracle ended up with 9-line copying (plus a few test files), and the judge decided that *as* *a* *matter* *of* *law* copyright infringement had occurred for

Re: Licensing change: Audacious - GPLv3 -- BSD

On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com wrote: That someone's name wasn't listed in the right places may _explain_ their non-inclusion in a copyright change discussion That seems to be what is being stated. Perhaps his contributions were too insignificant to earn

Re: Licensing change: Audacious - GPLv3 -- BSD

On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 10:56 PM, Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote: If you're not able to keep track of all your copyright holders then changing the license is something you should only do with the aid of good lawyers. While the pendantics do have a pendantic point, in practice the

Python i686 vs x86_64 -- for testing a python library

I am diagnosing a bug/odditywith a python library that uses Pyrex and other oddities. In the course of that, I have installed python.i686 on my F16 x86_64 system, and I'm trying to run it and... no dice! According to rpm, python.x86_64 and python.i686 both own /usr/bin/python and

Re: Python i686 vs x86_64 -- for testing a python library

On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Adam Jackson a...@redhat.com wrote: Welcome to rpm.  ELF files have a wacky concept called color, which means Color me impressed. That's one thing I didn't know! Use a chroot or an i686 vm.  Or possibly just do rpmdev-extract on the i686 version and run it

Re: ARM as a primary architecture

On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Pete Zaitcev zait...@redhat.com wrote: Buy a trimslice and run it with iSCSI. This is not good enough for me to become involved with Fedora on ARM. Glad it works for you, but I need a real system, like a Netwinder. Whatever floats your boat! ARM SoCs are

Re: RFC: Primary architecture promotion requirements

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 6:07 AM, Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com wrote: Maybe a distribution of PandaBoards/R-Pi for every FAS account holder could help, any sponsor? :D OLPC is starting mass production of XO-1.75 units, based on an ARMv7 Marvell Armada 610. School kids in Uruguay and

Re: ARM as a primary architecture

On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 7:01 AM, Andrew Haley a...@redhat.com wrote: Where is the hardware? Do you see signs of ARM boards coming in the near future (next 1 year or so) on which users can install operating systems of their choice? I wonder where you've been.  See Raspberry Pi and Trimslice

Re: ARM as a primary architecture

On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 2:20 PM, drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote: Which is exactly what I am trying to say as soon as you want to create content you want a real device. (keyboard! interface) Folks! In this mailing list I'd expect people to know: an arch is an arch is an arch. Some ARM CPUs

Re: Debuginfo package for Python-2.7 on F14 mismatched or (l)user error?

2012 20:46:16 +0100, Martin Langhoff wrote: Argh, that could be. But our kernel is a custom built rpm, You have a bug for Fedora there, in the core file by readelf -l: Program Headers:  Type           Offset   VirtAddr   PhysAddr   FileSiz MemSiz  Flg Align [...]  LOAD          0x1933000

Re: Debuginfo package for Python-2.7 on F14 mismatched or (l)user error?

On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 1:57 AM, Jan Kratochvil jan.kratoch...@redhat.com wrote: And both machines pass rpm -Va just fine. So the binaries should, um, be the same. + It is a core from yesterday, There can be difference one of the machines has the files prelink-ed while the other one does

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