Re: Fedora 35 - gedit

2021-11-10 Thread Michael J. Baars
On Tue, 2021-11-09 at 12:49 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Tue, 2021-11-09 at 18:59 +0100, Michael J. Baars wrote:
> > Hi Adam,
> > 
> > I didn't install any update, apparently the update is already included with
> > the release version of Fedora 35, because it won't install from the command
> > line and the versions from the build match the versions from the release.
> > This is a fresh installation of Fedora 35 Workstation, done the day before
> > yesterday.
> > 
> > So, with the updates INCLUDED instead of installed, the mouse pointer and
> > the cursor (still) act strange when running gedit. When I try to move the
> > mouse into position and click to move the cursor into position, for example
> > to cut and past text, both OFTEN (say 50% of these attempts) end up on a
> > completely different line number, sometimes even selecting some text in the
> > process.
> > 
> > The updates as provided by the build and as included in the release version
> > of Fedora 35, do therefore not function as intended.
> > 
> > Precise sequence of steps:
> > 1) turn on computer
> > 2) open text files from file manager
> > 3) start editing
> > 
> > Nothing more, nothing less, nothing out of the ordinary either. The problem
> > had never reveiled itself on another one of my computers, which is still
> > running Fedora 32 Workstation. It's definitely new, impossible to overlook,
> > and impossible to ignore when your used to working with gedit as your
> > default editor as I am.
> 
> Thanks. So:
> 
> 1. That update was not included in the release. The update was created
> on 2021-11-04, which is *after* the release happened (on 2021-11-02),
> let alone when the release was signed off (2021-10-28) or actually
> built (I think that was 2021-10-25). The release has gnome-shell-41.0-
> 4.fc35 and mutter-41.0-4.fc35 . You can see this for yourself at 
> https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/35/Everything/x86_64/os/Packages/g/
> and
> https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/35/Everything/x86_64/os/Packages/m/
> . This is just a note, as long as you have the updated versions and
> have rebooted since installing them, it doesn't really matter where you
> got them.
> 
> 2. The problem you are having is not the problem the update was
> intended to fix. I know this because I was the person who noticed the
> problem and backported the fix. That problem did not occur simply by
> opening a file and editing it, it always involved switching focus
> between the text editor and other windows. There are more details on
> the bug the update actually fixes at
> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/-/issues/4647 . The update
> definitely did fix that problem, because I had it before and I don't
> have it now.
> 
> 3. The problem you're hitting now is not likely a general one, or else
> a lot more people would likely be complaining about it, given how
> "impossible to overlook" (your words) it is. It's not happening to me,
> for instance. gedit behaves just fine for me. Unless anyone else can
> reproduce it by just running gedit, we still need to figure out what
> exactly in your configuration is triggering the problem. Maybe you
> could record a video of it? That might show something that helps.
> 
> Thanks!

Hi Adam,

1) Ok, glad you noticed. The updates possibly differ in version, while the 
version numbers of mutter and gnome-shell remain the same.
3) Mikel Olasagasti immediately let me know that he experienced the same 
problem on Fedora 34, uncommon as the problem might seem.

2) I think it is the same problem, although I didn't have the chance yesterday 
to test the scroll-wheel. It's even getting stranger, because today the problem
refuses to manifest itself. I don't really like the idea of people taking over 
my back-end, but this is probably one of those cases where someone wants you to
know that he's in control of the back-end. That makes working with computers 
very hard and often very unpleasant. On the one hand, some engineer is doing his
very best to come up with error correcting codes for memory modules, and than 
on the other hand, some hacker is doing his very best to bend pointers to his 
will
unasked for.

Regards,
Mischa.
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Re: Fedora 35 - gedit

2021-11-09 Thread Michael J. Baars
Hi Adam,

I didn't install any update, apparently the update is already included with
the release version of Fedora 35, because it won't install from the command
line and the versions from the build match the versions from the release.
This is a fresh installation of Fedora 35 Workstation, done the day before
yesterday.

So, with the updates INCLUDED instead of installed, the mouse pointer and
the cursor (still) act strange when running gedit. When I try to move the
mouse into position and click to move the cursor into position, for example
to cut and past text, both OFTEN (say 50% of these attempts) end up on a
completely different line number, sometimes even selecting some text in the
process.

The updates as provided by the build and as included in the release version
of Fedora 35, do therefore not function as intended.

Precise sequence of steps:
1) turn on computer
2) open text files from file manager
3) start editing

Nothing more, nothing less, nothing out of the ordinary either. The problem
had never reveiled itself on another one of my computers, which is still
running Fedora 32 Workstation. It's definitely new, impossible to overlook,
and impossible to ignore when your used to working with gedit as your
default editor as I am.

Best regards,
Mischa Baars.


On Tue, 9 Nov 2021, 17:50 Adam Williamson, 
wrote:

> On Tue, 2021-11-09 at 16:56 +0100, Michael J. Baars wrote:
> > On Tue, 2021-11-09 at 15:31 +0100, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote:
> > > On 09/11/2021 14:18, Michael J. Baars wrote:
> > > > Nothing with 'sudo dnf upgrade --advisory=FEDORA-2021-4ce970eca6'
> either. It keeps saying: "Nothing to do"???
> > >
> > > sudo dnf upgrade --refresh --advisory=FEDORA-2021-4ce970eca6
> > > --enablerepo=updates-testing
> > >
> >
> > Does that work on you machine??? Still nothing on mine.
>
> To pick up from the update thread, it seems you found you already have
> these updates installed. To check one more thing, though, have you
> logged out since installing them? The bug will persist until you do.
>
> If you have them installed and you've logged out or rebooted since
> installing them, then there's clearly still an issue, but we'll likely
> need more information to fix it. It would help if you can identify a
> precise sequence of steps - starting from a clean desktop - that
> reliably reproduces the problem for you. Thanks!
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Re: Fedora 35 - gedit

2021-11-09 Thread Michael J. Baars
On Tue, 2021-11-09 at 18:03 +0200, Otto Urpelainen wrote:
> Michael J. Baars kirjoitti 9.11.2021 klo 17.56:
> > On Tue, 2021-11-09 at 15:31 +0100, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote:
> > > On 09/11/2021 14:18, Michael J. Baars wrote:
> > > > Nothing with 'sudo dnf upgrade --advisory=FEDORA-2021-4ce970eca6' 
> > > > either. It keeps saying: "Nothing to do"???
> > > 
> > > sudo dnf upgrade --refresh --advisory=FEDORA-2021-4ce970eca6
> > > --enablerepo=updates-testing
> > > 
> > 
> > Does that work on you machine??? Still nothing on mine.
> 
> Please check the package versions you have installed against the 
> versions in the update. Instructions:
> 
> First, check what the update installs. In the linked Bodhi page, open 
> tab Builds and check what is in there. In this case, you will see these:
> 
>  gnome-shell-41.1-1.fc35
>  mutter-41.1-1.fc35
> 
> Then check your local versions:
> 
>  $ dnf -C info --installed gnome-shell mutter
> 
> If you see "Version: 41.1" and "Release: 1.fc35" for both of these, then 
> you have the update already. That would explain why dnf says nothing to do.

Exactly! Then it has nothing to do. Yet, I still observe the dancing mouse 
pointer and cursor. It's quite annoying indeed... I can't possibly do any 
programming
like this either :)

> 
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Re: Fedora 35 - gedit

2021-11-09 Thread Michael J. Baars
Hi,

This update can't be installed because the update is already in the Fedora 35 
release version, according to 
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2021-4ce970eca6.

I still have the dancing mouse pointer and cursor though :(

I'll place a notice of this on 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2017192 first thing tomorrow.

Best regards,
Mischa.

On Tue, 2021-11-09 at 15:31 +0100, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote:
> On 09/11/2021 14:18, Michael J. Baars wrote:
> > Nothing with 'sudo dnf upgrade --advisory=FEDORA-2021-4ce970eca6' either. 
> > It keeps saying: "Nothing to do"???
> 
> sudo dnf upgrade --refresh --advisory=FEDORA-2021-4ce970eca6 
> --enablerepo=updates-testing
> 
> -- 
> Sincerely,
>Vitaly Zaitsev (vit...@easycoding.org)
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Re: Fedora 35 - gedit

2021-11-09 Thread Michael J. Baars
On Tue, 2021-11-09 at 15:31 +0100, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote:
> On 09/11/2021 14:18, Michael J. Baars wrote:
> > Nothing with 'sudo dnf upgrade --advisory=FEDORA-2021-4ce970eca6' either. 
> > It keeps saying: "Nothing to do"???
> 
> sudo dnf upgrade --refresh --advisory=FEDORA-2021-4ce970eca6 
> --enablerepo=updates-testing
> 

Does that work on you machine??? Still nothing on mine.

Best regards,
Mischa.

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> Sincerely,
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[root@tp10 ~]# dnf upgrade --advisory=FEDORA-2021-4ce970eca6 
--enablerepo=updates-testing --refresh
Fedora 35
-x86_64 



 226 kB/s |  17 kB 00:00
Fedora 35 openh264 (From Cisco) - x86_64


  1.8
kB/s | 990  B 00:00
Fedora Modular 35 - x86_64  


   
   180 kB/s |  17 kB 00:00
Fedora 35 - x86_64 - Updates


   
26 kB/s |  18 kB 00:00
Fedora Modular 35 - x86_64 - Updates


   
48 kB/s |  18 kB 00:00
Fedora 35 - x86_64 - Test Updates   
   

   
 25 kB/s |  17 kB 00:00  
Dependencies resolved.
Nothing to do.
Complete!
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Re: Fedora 35 - gedit

2021-11-09 Thread Michael J. Baars
On Tue, 2021-11-09 at 13:00 +0100, Fabio Valentini wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 10:13 AM Michael J. Baars
>  wrote:
> > Hi All,
> > 
> > I've been working with Fedora for years now, and I just installed the 
> > newest Fedora Workstation 35 on one of my computers.
> > 
> > Since I use gedit a lot for editing source codes, gedit was one of the 
> > first programs I tried to launch. Now, there I get into trouble. After 
> > opening a few
> > source files and trying to start off where I left, I noticed that the mouse 
> > pointer (and the line number) often does not end up where I clicked the 
> > mouse
> > when
> > trying to position the cursor (for cutting and pasting for example). This 
> > is the very first time that I experience this problem.
> > 
> > Help would be appreciated,
> 
> Have you tried just updating your Fedora 35 system with the most recent 
> updates?
> Because I noticed a recent gnome-shell and mutter update that claims
> to fix jumping cursor positions in text editors:
> https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2021-4ce970eca6

Nothing with 'sudo dnf upgrade --advisory=FEDORA-2021-4ce970eca6' either. It 
keeps saying: "Nothing to do"???

> Fabio
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Re: Fedora 35 - gedit

2021-11-09 Thread Michael J. Baars
On Tue, 2021-11-09 at 13:00 +0100, Fabio Valentini wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 10:13 AM Michael J. Baars
>  wrote:
> > Hi All,
> > 
> > I've been working with Fedora for years now, and I just installed the 
> > newest Fedora Workstation 35 on one of my computers.
> > 
> > Since I use gedit a lot for editing source codes, gedit was one of the 
> > first programs I tried to launch. Now, there I get into trouble. After 
> > opening a few
> > source files and trying to start off where I left, I noticed that the mouse 
> > pointer (and the line number) often does not end up where I clicked the 
> > mouse
> > when
> > trying to position the cursor (for cutting and pasting for example). This 
> > is the very first time that I experience this problem.
> > 
> > Help would be appreciated,
> 
> Have you tried just updating your Fedora 35 system with the most recent 
> updates?
> Because I noticed a recent gnome-shell and mutter update that claims
> to fix jumping cursor positions in text editors:
> https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2021-4ce970eca6
> 

Ok, well, I don't know exactly when Fedora 35 was released, but neither 'dnf 
distro-sync' not 'dnf check-update' wants to install the desired update or 
anything
at all for that matter. November 2 :)

> Fabio
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Re: Fedora 35 - gedit

2021-11-09 Thread Michael J. Baars
On Tue, 2021-11-09 at 13:00 +0100, Fabio Valentini wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 10:13 AM Michael J. Baars
>  wrote:
> > Hi All,
> > 
> > I've been working with Fedora for years now, and I just installed the 
> > newest Fedora Workstation 35 on one of my computers.
> > 
> > Since I use gedit a lot for editing source codes, gedit was one of the 
> > first programs I tried to launch. Now, there I get into trouble. After 
> > opening a few
> > source files and trying to start off where I left, I noticed that the mouse 
> > pointer (and the line number) often does not end up where I clicked the 
> > mouse
> > when
> > trying to position the cursor (for cutting and pasting for example). This 
> > is the very first time that I experience this problem.
> > 
> > Help would be appreciated,
> 
> Have you tried just updating your Fedora 35 system with the most recent 
> updates?
> Because I noticed a recent gnome-shell and mutter update that claims
> to fix jumping cursor positions in text editors:
> https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2021-4ce970eca6
> 
> Fabio

Hi,

No, not yet. I will in just a minute if you say that should help. Let me get 
back on this. By the way, it's not like the window is scrolling into position, 
it's
the cursor and the mouse pointer that end up on the wrong line number. Let me 
try to update ...

I did write an email to the gnome applications (discourse) mailing list. Hope 
that will help too.

Mischa.

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Re: Fedora 35 - gedit

2021-11-09 Thread Michael J. Baars
Hi Mikel,

Good to know! I would otherwise have downgraded to Fedora 34. Now I don't
have to find out for myself the hard way that that wouldn't have been very
much of a solution.

I will try one of the Gnome mailing lists as well, see if we can find some
people that are able to fix this.

Best regards,
Mischa.

On Tue, 9 Nov 2021, 12:08 Mikel Olasagasti,  wrote:

> Hi Mischa,
>
> Hau idatzi du Michael J. Baars (mjbaars1977.fedora.de...@gmail.com)
> erabiltzaileak (2021 aza. 9, ar. (10:14)):
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I've been working with Fedora for years now, and I just installed the
> newest Fedora Workstation 35 on one of my computers.
> >
> > Since I use gedit a lot for editing source codes, gedit was one of the
> first programs I tried to launch. Now, there I get into trouble. After
> opening a few
> > source files and trying to start off where I left, I noticed that the
> mouse pointer (and the line number) often does not end up where I clicked
> the mouse when
> > trying to position the cursor (for cutting and pasting for example).
> This is the very first time that I experience this problem.
>
> This happened to me also with Fedora 34. I switched to
> gnome-text-editor's flatpak as gedit replacement and, although is not
> a complete replacement, it has some nice features.
>
> Kind regards,
> Mikel
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Fedora 35 - gedit

2021-11-09 Thread Michael J. Baars
Hi All,

I've been working with Fedora for years now, and I just installed the newest 
Fedora Workstation 35 on one of my computers.

Since I use gedit a lot for editing source codes, gedit was one of the first 
programs I tried to launch. Now, there I get into trouble. After opening a few
source files and trying to start off where I left, I noticed that the mouse 
pointer (and the line number) often does not end up where I clicked the mouse 
when
trying to position the cursor (for cutting and pasting for example). This is 
the very first time that I experience this problem.

Help would be appreciated,

Best regards,
Mischa Baars.

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Re: systemctl status distccd

2020-06-17 Thread Michael J. Baars
On Tue, 2020-06-16 at 15:09 +0200, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 01:59:48PM +0200, Michael J. Baars wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Since it's awfully quiet on the initscripts-devel mailing list.
> 
>   But why this email?  The log you presented shows:
> 
> a) distccd not starting because of configuration error (configured to
> listen on non-existing 192.168.0.2 address)
> 
> b) distccd service running (listening on different address)
> 
>   Do you mean that you configured distccd to start after
> network-online.target and it did not start after .2 is available?
> Well, first you need also Wants=network-online.target, second you
> need
> something providing this target (like NetworkManager-wait-
> online.service).
> 
>   Anyway, this isall guesswork, why have you posted to -devel list?

Sorry about the ip confusion, the log files were generated on two
different machines.

The drop-in in the attachment works fine for me. I know nothing about a
Wants=network-online.target, only that the configuration files that
come with Fedora do not always work.

I posted it to the devel mailing list because nobody is there at the
initscripts-devel mailing list. I've already tried that for the
postgresql server that didn't want start either.

Best regards,
Mischa.

> 
> 
> > [root@tp02 ~]# systemctl status distccd
> > ● distccd.service - Distccd A Distributed Compilation Server
> > Jun 16 09:35:00 tp02.localdomain distccd[741]: (dcc_listen_by_addr)
> > ERROR: bind of 192.168.0.2:3632 failed: Cannot assign requested
> > address
> > 
> > [root@tp02 mjbaars1977]# systemctl status distccd
> > ● distccd.service - Distccd A Distributed Compilation Server
> >  ├─ 945 /usr/bin/distccd --no-detach --daemon --
> > whitelist=/etc/distcc/clients.allow --jobs 4 --listen 192.168.0.3
> > --allow 192.168.0.0/4
> 
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systemctl status distccd

2020-06-16 Thread Michael J. Baars
Hi,

Since it's awfully quiet on the initscripts-devel mailing list.

Best regards,
Mischa.




distccd.service.d.tar.xz
Description: application/xz-compressed-tar
[root@tp02 ~]# systemctl status distccd
● distccd.service - Distccd A Distributed Compilation Server
 Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/distccd.service; enabled; vendor 
preset: disabled)
 Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Tue 2020-06-16 09:35:00 CEST; 
21min ago
Process: 741 ExecStart=/usr/bin/distccd --no-detach --daemon 
--whitelist=/etc/distcc/clients.allow $OPTIONS (code=exited, status=102)
   Main PID: 741 (code=exited, status=102)
CPU: 16ms

Jun 16 09:35:00 tp02.localdomain systemd[1]: Started Distccd A Distributed 
Compilation Server.
Jun 16 09:35:00 tp02.localdomain distccd[741]: (dcc_listen_by_addr) ERROR: bind 
of 192.168.0.2:3632 failed: Cannot assign requested address
Jun 16 09:35:00 tp02.localdomain systemd[1]: distccd.service: Main process 
exited, code=exited, status=102/n/a
Jun 16 09:35:00 tp02.localdomain systemd[1]: distccd.service: Failed with 
result 'exit-code'.

[root@tp02 mjbaars1977]# systemctl status distccd
● distccd.service - Distccd A Distributed Compilation Server
 Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/distccd.service; enabled; vendor 
preset: disabled)
Drop-In: /etc/systemd/system/distccd.service.d
 └─distccd.service.conf
 Active: active (running) since Tue 2020-06-16 12:47:54 CEST; 46s ago
   Main PID: 945 (distccd)
  Tasks: 5 (limit: 4488)
 Memory: 1.7M
CPU: 20ms
 CGroup: /system.slice/distccd.service
 ├─ 945 /usr/bin/distccd --no-detach --daemon 
--whitelist=/etc/distcc/clients.allow --jobs 4 --listen 192.168.0.3 --allow 
192.168.0.0/4
 ├─ 952 /usr/bin/distccd --no-detach --daemon 
--whitelist=/etc/distcc/clients.allow --jobs 4 --listen 192.168.0.3 --allow 
192.168.0.0/4
 ├─ 994 /usr/bin/distccd --no-detach --daemon 
--whitelist=/etc/distcc/clients.allow --jobs 4 --listen 192.168.0.3 --allow 
192.168.0.0/4
 ├─1038 /usr/bin/distccd --no-detach --daemon 
--whitelist=/etc/distcc/clients.allow --jobs 4 --listen 192.168.0.3 --allow 
192.168.0.0/4
 └─1056 /usr/bin/distccd --no-detach --daemon 
--whitelist=/etc/distcc/clients.allow --jobs 4 --listen 192.168.0.3 --allow 
192.168.0.0/4

Jun 16 12:47:54 tp03.localdomain systemd[1]: Started Distccd A Distributed 
Compilation Server.

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