Re: drop obsolete static uid/gid allocations

2017-01-17 Thread Michael Scherer
any RH acquired a long time ago and whose product served as the basis to Satellite/spacewalk. On RHEL, it is dynamically created, (cf https://access.redhat.com/solutions/222323 ), and I think spacewalk is not packaged in Fedora. -- Michael Scherer ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Improvements of Fedora Sponsorship process

2016-08-06 Thread Michael Scherer
they get reassigned to a new sponsor ?) -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: [OT] Tim, Gil, et. al. (e-mail address settings)

2016-07-01 Thread Michael Scherer
ay to do so in explicit and standard respecting way. So either libero.it change the SPF record, or Gil start to to use libero.it SMTP, or use a different email in the 'from' header. We can't really ask to all providers (ie, more than gmail) who use SPF to not listen to libero.it constraints,

Re: Improving the offline updates user experience

2014-10-26 Thread Michael Scherer
crashed and I do not know why from our users, then having regular random crashes after a random delay after upgrade is the way to go. If we still aim for the software is solid and stable, then we should try to reduce the random crash. -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

2014-06-14 Thread Michael Scherer
Le samedi 14 juin 2014 à 04:00 +0200, Reindl Harald a écrit : Am 14.06.2014 03:42, schrieb Michael Scherer: Le samedi 14 juin 2014 à 03:33 +0200, Reindl Harald a écrit : So maybe you should propose to have dnf named yum 4.0, and then since that's a major version, we would be ok to change

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

2014-06-14 Thread Michael Scherer
Le samedi 14 juin 2014 à 03:55 +0200, Reindl Harald a écrit : Am 14.06.2014 03:36, schrieb Michael Scherer: Everybody I know who looked at the yum python api told me it was a bit horrible. So a cleanup was needed for that. There was demand from packagekit developers to have a cleaner API

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

2014-06-14 Thread Michael Scherer
to the software that do the automation, since you can only transmit string without any formatting or translation. You are also mixing something mean for a user and something meant for a software. -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

2014-06-14 Thread Michael Scherer
Le samedi 14 juin 2014 à 12:55 +0200, Reindl Harald a écrit : Am 14.06.2014 12:26, schrieb Michael Scherer: Le samedi 14 juin 2014 à 04:00 +0200, Reindl Harald a écrit : Am 14.06.2014 03:42, schrieb Michael Scherer: Le samedi 14 juin 2014 à 03:33 +0200, Reindl Harald a écrit : So maybe

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

2014-06-14 Thread Michael Scherer
Le samedi 14 juin 2014 à 15:08 +0200, Reindl Harald a écrit : Am 14.06.2014 14:56, schrieb Michael Scherer: Le samedi 14 juin 2014 à 13:45 +0100, Jon Kent a écrit : Concerns me greatly when someone thinks cli is the wrong way to automate things. Agree Reindl comment 're this statement

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

2014-06-14 Thread Michael Scherer
Le samedi 14 juin 2014 à 15:15 +0200, Reindl Harald a écrit : Am 14.06.2014 15:04, schrieb Michael Scherer: Le samedi 14 juin 2014 à 12:55 +0200, Reindl Harald a écrit : That's why the developers do ask what is missing. That's also why I ask for you what compatibility you exactly want

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

2014-06-13 Thread Michael Scherer
to maintain yum in the long term, just people asking to others to do it. But having someone volunteering to maintain it would be the solution. People who want to keep yum forever, just maintain it. -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

2014-06-13 Thread Michael Scherer
they complained when up2date was replaced by yum ? when zipper replaced whatever they used to have on *suse before ? When pkgin replaced pkg_add on some of the BSD ? It happened in the past, and I do not remember seeing so much complains.. -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

2014-06-13 Thread Michael Scherer
Le samedi 14 juin 2014 à 03:03 +0200, Reindl Harald a écrit : Am 14.06.2014 02:59, schrieb Michael Scherer: Le vendredi 13 juin 2014 à 10:39 -0400, Steve Clark a écrit : On 06/13/2014 09:03 AM, drago01 wrote: On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

2014-06-13 Thread Michael Scherer
Le samedi 14 juin 2014 à 03:10 +0200, Reindl Harald a écrit : Am 14.06.2014 03:04, schrieb Michael Scherer: Le vendredi 13 juin 2014 à 15:07 +0200, Petr Spacek a écrit : On 13.6.2014 14:58, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 13.06.2014 14:53, schrieb Jan Zelený: That being said, the reason

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

2014-06-13 Thread Michael Scherer
Le samedi 14 juin 2014 à 03:20 +0200, Reindl Harald a écrit : Am 14.06.2014 03:10, schrieb Michael Scherer: Le samedi 14 juin 2014 à 03:03 +0200, Reindl Harald a écrit : Am 14.06.2014 02:59, schrieb Michael Scherer: Le vendredi 13 juin 2014 à 10:39 -0400, Steve Clark a écrit : On 06/13

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

2014-06-13 Thread Michael Scherer
Le samedi 14 juin 2014 à 03:33 +0200, Reindl Harald a écrit : Am 14.06.2014 03:24, schrieb Michael Scherer: Le samedi 14 juin 2014 à 03:10 +0200, Reindl Harald a écrit : and that changes where much bigger than a fork of YUM renamed for no good reason especially in context of replace

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

2014-06-11 Thread Michael Scherer
the command name the same with no nag message? I would expect puppet/chef to start using the library rather than direct access to the binary. And for ansible, I think the patch is quite simple, just add 2 lines. I guess we can start right now to get stuff merged. -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing

Re: [RFC] plans for initscripts in F22

2014-04-26 Thread Michael Scherer
really test. -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: The Forgotten F: A Tale of Fedora's Foundations

2014-04-21 Thread Michael Scherer
and Eve Online do not run on Linux. When I tell that Office and Photoshop do not run on Linux. When I tell that their Iphone is not gonna work and I cannot be sure that the printer they just bought from Samsung is maybe not supported. -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel

Re: The Forgotten F: A Tale of Fedora's Foundations

2014-04-21 Thread Michael Scherer
restrictions on their behavior[1]. [1] Hmm... that sounds an awful lot like the way Apple behaves... except they can afford marketing. And lawyers, lots of them :) And they really limit people, which is not something we do, so the analogy is a bit disturbing. -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing

Re: The Forgotten F: A Tale of Fedora's Foundations

2014-04-21 Thread Michael Scherer
and much closer to the way people convert users. -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: advertisement in packaged software

2014-02-12 Thread Michael Scherer
patchs to enable or disable it in our packages and on Debian side. -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins

2014-01-30 Thread Michael Scherer
, fesco, all people in the packager group, all people with a FAS, anybody that come ? And for philosophical reasons like the simple fact that voting is divisive and that's going against the idea of building a consensus. -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https

Re: Heads up; F22 will require applications to ship appdata to be listed in software center

2014-01-27 Thread Michael Scherer
Le lundi 27 janvier 2014 à 17:11 +0100, Andreas Tunek a écrit : 2014-01-26 Michael Scherer m...@zarb.org: Le dimanche 26 janvier 2014 à 18:14 +0100, Heiko Adams a écrit : Am Sonntag, den 26.01.2014, 12:01 -0500 schrieb Rahul Sundaram: Hi On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 11:57 AM, drago01

Re: Heads up; F22 will require applications to ship appdata to be listed in software center

2014-01-26 Thread Michael Scherer
to a different tool ( ie, a software installer ) to install something that is not a software ? -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: acceptability of updates-testing breakage vs. rawhide breakage

2014-01-11 Thread Michael Scherer
to make sure this doesn't happen, they will always accept any kind of help. But in the mean time, as this is IMHO the most beging type of breakage, I think we can tolerate them from time to time until we can properly automate the checking. -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel

Re: Unresponsive maintainer: Mark Chappell

2014-01-10 Thread Michael Scherer
a comprehensible error message! Anyway, does anybody have an alternate means of contacting Mark? Yep, I forward him the email -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code

Re: dnf versus yum

2014-01-03 Thread Michael Scherer
Le jeudi 02 janvier 2014 à 16:45 -0500, Rahul Sundaram a écrit : Hi On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 4:36 PM, Michael Scherer wrote: It could be implemented as a plugin and still installed by default. It could be but I doubt that is the proposed change here. They just don't

Re: dnf versus yum

2014-01-02 Thread Michael Scherer
it was before deciding to change it. It could be implemented as a plugin and still installed by default. -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: Sshd getting 'dyntransition' AVC's in SElinux enforcing mode

2013-12-27 Thread Michael Scherer
=sshd scontext=system_u:system_r:init_t:s0 tcontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0 tclass=process Is this a known issue? I’m running: Can you make sure the label is correct on the fs ( ie, relabel the whole / ), as this seems to be a wrongly labeled sshd. -- Michael Scherer

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-12-18)

2013-12-20 Thread Michael Scherer
by restricting yourself to Fedora QA while ignoring the free software community at large for no good reasons. -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: FTBFS if -Werror=format-security flag is used

2013-12-06 Thread Michael scherer
On Thu, Dec 05, 2013 at 07:40:36PM -0600, mrnuke wrote: On 12/05/2013 11:38 AM, Michael scherer wrote: On Wed, Dec 04, 2013 at 08:25:54PM -0600, mrnuke wrote: This change is Sofa King stupid. Why couldn't we have just enabled the warning without turning it into an error, THEN let

Re: FTBFS if -Werror=format-security flag is used

2013-12-05 Thread Michael scherer
upstream are receptive, so i really fail to see why there is people complaining. -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: Draft Product Description for Fedora Workstation

2013-11-08 Thread Michael scherer
more gain. -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: Draft Product Description for Fedora Workstation

2013-11-08 Thread Michael scherer
/board-meeting-topic-for-the-day-user-base-aka-target-audience/ -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: Draft Product Description for Fedora Workstation

2013-11-08 Thread Michael Scherer
Le vendredi 08 novembre 2013 à 21:24 +0100, Miloslav Trmač a écrit : On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Michael scherer m...@zarb.org wrote: On Thu, Nov 07, 2013 at 09:55:12PM +0100, Miloslav Trmač wrote: On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 9:48 PM, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote: On Thu

Re: Workstation PRD summary and next steps

2013-11-08 Thread Michael Scherer
on devel-announce : https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel-announce/2013-October/001258.html -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: Draft Product Description for Fedora Workstation

2013-11-06 Thread Michael scherer
On Tue, Nov 05, 2013 at 01:23:01PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: On Mon, 2013-11-04 at 23:50 +0100, Michael Scherer wrote: Le lundi 04 novembre 2013 à 21:02 +0100, Reindl Harald a écrit : Am 04.11.2013 20:56, schrieb drago01: On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 8:49 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei

Re: gnome software shell search provider? [Re: Is Gnome Software ready for primetime?]

2013-11-04 Thread Michael Scherer
, the old way still exist. People spoke of yumex among others, and the various scripts that were posted would still work, yum would still be here (or dnf). -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code

Re: Draft Product Description for Fedora Workstation

2013-11-04 Thread Michael Scherer
if the bug is fixed, or tell me what you think of the UI, this benefit free software as a whole. -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: Draft Product Description for Fedora Workstation

2013-11-04 Thread Michael Scherer
alternatives. -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: Draft Product Description for Fedora Workstation

2013-11-04 Thread Michael Scherer
software. maybe you think they do not matters and we shouldn't care and only focus on your usecase, but I would disrespectfully disagree, despites the energy you spent on this thread trying to restlessly convince people. -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Draft Product Description for Fedora Workstation

2013-11-04 Thread Michael Scherer
will stop here and now. -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: gnome software shell search provider? [Re: Is Gnome Software ready for primetime?]

2013-11-03 Thread Michael Scherer
Le dimanche 03 novembre 2013 à 14:23 +0100, Kevin Kofler a écrit : Michael Scherer wrote: When statistics cost you money, yeah, I think that's important to take them in account. Maybe your employer do not care about this, but I strongly suspect mine does, and I strongly suspect that most

Re: Packages have proxy word.

2013-11-02 Thread Michael Scherer
report, and so far, I do not see you doing that. Is Fedora working for Freedom or not ?? Working for freedom yes, but that doesn't mean working to fight all kind of freedom restriction irrespective of any others factors. -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: gnome software shell search provider? [Re: Is Gnome Software ready for primetime?]

2013-11-02 Thread Michael Scherer
of laptop, and count how much this is costing in time to a company. Time lost by users, time lost by having someone looking at it instead of focusing on others issues. -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: gnome software shell search provider? [Re: Is Gnome Software ready for primetime?]

2013-11-02 Thread Michael Scherer
Le samedi 02 novembre 2013 à 22:35 +0100, Reindl Harald a écrit : Am 02.11.2013 22:29, schrieb Michael Scherer: Ars technica summarize quite clearly the situation on this problem : http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/11/its-the-little-things-how-small-conundrums-make-many

Re: abrt Bugzilla summary

2013-09-20 Thread Michael Scherer
and rewrite the Subject. If spamassassin can do it, why not do the same :) ( I use that to remove the [ml name] of some list, to reorder the subject for easier visual matching, etc, etc ) -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org

Re: COPR

2013-09-04 Thread Michael Scherer
Le mardi 03 septembre 2013 à 15:37 -0400, Jay Greguske a écrit : On 09/03/2013 12:29 PM, Michael scherer wrote: On Tue, Sep 03, 2013 at 09:48:52AM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Tue, 03 Sep 2013 10:10:32 -0400 Jay Greguske jgreg...@redhat.com wrote: If we had SELinux policy enabled

Re: COPR

2013-09-03 Thread Michael scherer
is buggy ) and I didn't look at it since a few weeks. I can send it if someone want to take a look. -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: COPR

2013-09-03 Thread Michael Scherer
Le mardi 03 septembre 2013 à 15:37 -0400, Jay Greguske a écrit : On 09/03/2013 01:54 PM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/03/2013 12:29 PM, Michael scherer wrote: On Tue, Sep 03, 2013 at 09:48:52AM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Tue, 03 Sep 2013

Unexpanded %post in updated rpm on F19

2013-08-24 Thread Michael Scherer
intervention. Could something be done with it so that doesn't spread to others packages, and those be fixed before too much people install them ? -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct

Re: Unexpanded %post in updated rpm on F19

2013-08-24 Thread Michael Scherer
Le samedi 24 août 2013 à 15:57 +0200, Michael Scherer a écrit : Hi, I found 2 rpms ( nscd, acpid ) that were sent in updates with a bug that didn't expand the systemd macro : https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1000713 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1000712 This make

Re: Bundled Flash

2013-08-23 Thread Michael Scherer
there is some better syntax for that. -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: RFC: Old packages remain on the mirrors for one week

2013-08-15 Thread Michael Scherer
/snapshot.debian.org.git;a=tree ( and it was based on pdumpfs before ) -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: UML (user mode linux) for Fedora

2013-08-08 Thread Michael Scherer
spec/srpm from the kernel spec ? -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: ExecStart line in systemd service files.

2013-08-08 Thread Michael Scherer
the correct path after ./configure make. For the exact way of doing that, you have to see autoconf manual, and I do not have a example ready to give. -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code

Re: RFC: Proposal for a more agile Fedora.next (draft of my Flock talk)

2013-07-27 Thread Michael Scherer
do work. -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: Summary of accepted Fedora 20 Changes - week 30

2013-07-27 Thread Michael Scherer
of log on a different way, just because this was done like this before. 2 systems, twice the risk of failing, twice the work to setup, and of course, they do not match on feature. Anyway, I think I contributed enough to this thread, so I will stop here. -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel

Re: Summary of accepted Fedora 20 Changes - week 30

2013-07-26 Thread Michael Scherer
. It hardly needs 'working on'. Technically, fixing all packages with the assumption there is a MTA already installed and file for log will be there are also part of the feature that would have needed work. -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https

Re: Fedora as an crowd founded project an additional funding source to our sponsor

2013-07-26 Thread Michael Scherer
the right folks to get the number to start with. RH is not yet a bureaucratic behemoth where everything is precisely counted. However, a rough estimate would be easy to get, just ask for the number of servers, and multiply that by a estimated cost based on industry average. -- Michael Scherer -- devel

Re: Fedora as an crowd founded project an additional funding source to our sponsor

2013-07-26 Thread Michael Scherer
Le vendredi 26 juillet 2013 à 13:32 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson a écrit : On 07/26/2013 01:07 PM, Michael Scherer wrote: Working in IT @Red Hat, I concur, and I am pretty sure that no one has all the information to make that estimation. Network, hosting and storage are all under

Re: Fedora as an crowd founded project an additional funding source to our sponsor

2013-07-24 Thread Michael Scherer
suboptimal situation. -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Fedora as an crowd founded project an additional funding source to our sponsor

2013-07-24 Thread Michael Scherer
treasurer, motivated, etc. On the other hand, there is lots of group doing it around you. Having someone paid for that would be kinda self defeating, and having a world wide group is the real issue, knowing the various law around the world is nightmarish. -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing

Re: Fedora as an crowd founded project an additional funding source to our sponsor

2013-07-24 Thread Michael Scherer
project or anything. And that's what was done for Mageia before the association got a legal entity, using another partner association in France as a proxy for money. I think Debian also do something similar for debconf, with SPI. -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel

Re: Proposal: ReadOnlyDirectories /etc and /usr for network-services

2013-07-22 Thread Michael Scherer
refuses for whatever reason to start with read-only /etc ReadOnlyDirectories=/usr is fine Same as above. -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: RFC: Proposal for a more agile Fedora.next (draft of my Flock talk)

2013-07-22 Thread Michael Scherer
? -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: F20 Self Contained Change: Ruby on Rails 4.0

2013-07-17 Thread Michael Scherer
-*-rails packages in Fedora. We will try to ensure, that all these works. There is currently no Rails application in Fedora to my knowledge. There is openshift-broker and console. And I think there is a gsoc to package gitlab. -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Tools to mount and promote Fedora on cybers.

2013-07-14 Thread Michael Scherer
this. And usually, in a cyber cafe, you also want to be able to limit the time spent on the session by disconnecting after a time, and display that time to the customers. You also want to let people connect only if they paid :) -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https

Re: More unhelpful update descriptions

2013-07-03 Thread Michael Scherer
, but won't be fixed. That's not what the guidelines say : https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Update_feedback_guidelines#Update_does_not_fix_a_bug_it_claims_to -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: More unhelpful update descriptions

2013-07-03 Thread Michael Scherer
Le mercredi 03 juillet 2013 à 09:54 +0200, Johannes Lips a écrit : On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Michael Scherer m...@zarb.org wrote: Le mercredi 03 juillet 2013 à 09:44 +0200, Johannes Lips a écrit : On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 9:32 AM

Re: bugzilla.redhat.com vs upstream bug trackers

2013-06-17 Thread Michael Scherer
is there any reason to not offer it, or I can start filling bug to request it ? -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: F19 locale issue?

2013-06-16 Thread Michael Scherer
In short, fix /usr/libexec/gnome-settings-daemon-localeexec to remove ', not ','. -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Daily package ownership changes?

2013-05-29 Thread Michael Scherer
. -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Software Management call for RFEs

2013-05-25 Thread Michael Scherer
not always convenient if you need to remove dependent packages for yum remove ? I guess yum-shell may help in that case ? -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Software Management call for RFEs

2013-05-22 Thread Michael Scherer
rather than cut and paste the same stuff. And if we do have less %post script, we increase compatibility with other distributions if they do the same. -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Software Management call for RFEs

2013-05-22 Thread Michael Scherer
, and then have a package have a requires on it. So it cannot be installed if the hardware is not here. -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Software Management call for RFEs

2013-05-22 Thread Michael Scherer
, or they will not get enough. And if you had suggest/recommend by default, you bloat the system, and if you don't, then that's useless. I am not against the idea, but that's not a technical issue. Technically, Suggest can be added to rpm quite fast, there is patch floating around. -- Michael Scherer -- devel

Re: Default-installed MTA (was Re: MTA virtual provides craziness)

2013-05-20 Thread Michael Scherer
will fill your hard drive. -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Question about what to do if mantainer is absent

2013-05-17 Thread Michael Scherer
, and since no one did the governance part, patches for build system didn't appear ( hard to code when there is no specification ) -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: when startup delays become bugs

2013-05-17 Thread Michael Scherer
/system/foo.service'. I'd actually suggest doing: rpm -qif /lib/systemd/system/foo.service ... and noting the source rpm. For the sake of over optimisation : $ rpm --queryformat '%{SOURCERPM}\n' -qf /lib/systemd/system/foo.service foo-1.2-7.fc19.src.rpm -- Michael Scherer -- devel

Re: MTA virtual provides craziness

2013-05-15 Thread Michael Scherer
this dependency ). -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Reviewer needed for some packages?

2013-05-09 Thread Michael Scherer
. Umh, I mean review swaps. Well, we could just decide to do 2 reviews for each review we receive and this would solve the issue nicely. ( and in fact, I only do reviews without putting more packages ) -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https

Re: Build control-center in mock fail

2013-05-08 Thread Michael Scherer
. -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Do you think this is a security risk and if not is it a bad UI decision?

2013-05-05 Thread Michael Scherer
://uxdesign.smashingmagazine.com/2012/10/26/password-masking-hurt-signup-form/ ) -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Do you think this is a security risk and if not is it a bad UI decision?

2013-05-04 Thread Michael Scherer
read the developer list? That's terrible! That's the whole point of having a separate list in the first place, so people are not forced to read a high volume list like fedora-devel. -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman

Re: Do you think this is a security risk and if not is it a bad UI decision?

2013-05-04 Thread Michael Scherer
a explicit checkbox ) -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Do you think this is a security risk and if not is it a bad UI decision?

2013-05-04 Thread Michael Scherer
Le samedi 04 mai 2013 à 05:51 -0400, Rahul Sundaram a écrit : Hi On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 5:37 AM, Michael Scherer wrote: and I think that even Bruce Schneier have gave his opinion in favor of the proposal : http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives

Re: Do you think this is a security risk and if not is it a bad UI decision?

2013-05-04 Thread Michael Scherer
Le samedi 04 mai 2013 à 15:22 -0700, Dan Mashal a écrit : On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 2:37 AM, Michael Scherer m...@zarb.org wrote: and I think that even Bruce Schneier have gave his opinion in favor of the proposal : http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/06/the_problem_wit_2.html http

Re: Do you think this is a security risk and if not is it a bad UI decision?

2013-05-04 Thread Michael Scherer
Le samedi 04 mai 2013 à 17:06 -0600, Chris Murphy a écrit : On May 4, 2013, at 3:37 AM, Michael Scherer m...@zarb.org wrote: Or I could also speak of the small non standard keyboard such as macbook one where ~ or | are not printed and where using the wrong keyboard could result

Re: Idea: {Gnome,KDE,Xfce,...} Minimal Desktop groups

2013-04-29 Thread Michael Scherer
think that would fit the definition of minimal. -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: audacity

2013-04-28 Thread Michael Scherer
-archive.com/plf-discuss@zarb.org/msg01913.html -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Expanding the list of Hardened Packages

2013-04-14 Thread Michael Scherer
to fix security issues. -- Michael Scherer !DSPAM:516a7a988771503385058! -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: rawhide report: 20130413 changes

2013-04-13 Thread Michael Scherer
-- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Each Fedora release I do series of blog on New Security Feature coming in the next Fedora.

2013-04-10 Thread Michael Scherer
in addition to SELinux advances, systemd improvements, journald, kerberos moving the cache, FreeIPA integration with ActiveDirectory, audit improvement, libvirt/containers ... Privacy in gnome 3.8 ? -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https

Re: Expanding the list of Hardened Packages

2013-04-01 Thread Michael Scherer
on http://people.redhat.com/sgrubb/security/ , there is a script rpm-chksec to verify that. -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Is there a reason we do not turn on the file system hardlink/symlink protection in Rawhide?

2013-03-24 Thread Michael Scherer
it for the next stable release : http://womble.decadent.org.uk/blog/whats-in-the-linux-kernel-for-debian-70-wheezy-part-1.html ( along other interesting things, like disable autoloading for seldomly used network protocols ) -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https

Re: dnf installs cron.hourly

2013-03-18 Thread Michael Scherer
of the connection. But the logic of deciding which is which is likely in pk, not in nm. So implementing it everywhere will requires to duplicate the code and logic. -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Should MariaDB touch my.cnf in %post?

2013-03-15 Thread Michael Scherer
Le mardi 12 mars 2013 à 12:27 +0100, Bjorn Munch a écrit : On 08/03 12.56, Michael Scherer wrote: Le mardi 05 mars 2013 à 11:34 +0100, Bjorn Munch a écrit : The package we have ready as an upgrade of the existing one removes some no longer needed patches, adds a few new patches

Re: RFC: Fedora revamp proposal

2013-03-11 Thread Michael Scherer
Le lundi 11 mars 2013 à 03:44 +0100, Kevin Kofler a écrit : Michael Scherer wrote: A few wasted mega of disk space do not seems to be big problem if that permit to have more people on rawhide, faster tests and faster feedback. Old libraries accumulate over the lifetime of an installation

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