Re: Whole system analysis with frame pointers

2023-10-23 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 3:06 PM Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > I was asked about the topic in the subject, and I think it's not very > well known. The news is that since Fedora 38, whole system > performance analysis is now easy to do. This can be used to identify > hot spots in single

Unretire rshim

2023-01-16 Thread Michal Schmidt
Hello, I intend to unretire the 'rshim' package: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/rshim The package is needed in RHEL. Upstream is active. The latest tagged release was just 2 months ago. Michal ___ devel mailing list --

Re: Dynamic preemption support in Linux 5.12 kernel

2021-04-26 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 3:31 AM Chris Murphy wrote: > On Sun, Apr 25, 2021 at 12:39 PM Artem Tim wrote: > > Upcoming 5.12 allow building with dynamic preemption support which > allows changing mode at boot/run-time so finally no need to rebuild or make > alternative kernel build anymore[1].

Re: System freezes randomly - need to reboot

2019-01-14 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 1/14/19 1:31 PM, arnaud gaboury wrote: > Hello everyone, > > ## > $ cat /etc/os-release > NAME=Fedora > VERSION="29.20181230.0 (Workstation Edition)" > ID=fedora > VERSION_ID=29 > VERSION_CODENAME="" > PLATFORM_ID="platform:f29" > PRETTY_NAME="Fedora 29.20181230.0 (Workstation

orphaned ath_info

2018-02-21 Thread Michal Schmidt
Hello, I orphaned ath_info, a tool to read and write EEPROM on Atheros wireless cards. It only worked with ath5k cards, which I no longer have. Michal ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Re: remote X connections

2017-12-01 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 12/01/2017 04:44 PM, Christian Groessler wrote: > On 11/30/17 13:57, Michal Schmidt wrote: > >> Looks like gdm is missing BuildRequires: pkgconfig(xorg-server) >> Please report a bug for gdm in Bugzilla. > > > Can I cite your email on this bug report. What exactly

Re: remote X connections

2017-11-30 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 11/30/2017 01:39 PM, Christian Groessler wrote: > This is handled by conditional compilation in gdm (depending on a > HAVE_XSERVER_THAT_DEFAULTS_TO_LOCAL_ONLY define). > > The setting for this define is determined in configure.ac, lines[...] > if $PKG_CONFIG --atleast-version=1.17

Re: f26->f27 server upgrade, starting system activity accounting tool every 10 minutes

2017-11-15 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 11/13/2017 12:09 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: > There's still the issue of creating/removing slice User Slice of pcp, > and the Starting/Stopping User Manager fo UID 989 that keeps > happening. Those are triggered by cron jobs in the "pcp" package: /etc/cron.d/pcp-pmie /etc/cron.d/pcp-pmlogger

Re: RFC: static builds for user emulators in Fedora QEMU RPMs

2016-06-30 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 06/29/2016 12:03 PM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > The change to introduce a qemu-binfmt package has small upgrade > implications since anyone with qemu-user installed today, will loose > the binary format rules unless they manually install qemu-binfmt. Not if you add "Obsoletes: qemu-user <

Re: systemd 230 change - KillUserProcesses defaults to yes

2016-05-27 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 05/27/2016 11:51 AM, Dominique Martinet wrote: > Just noticed this change on rawhide... > https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/master/NEWS#L29 > * systemd-logind will now by default terminate user processes that are > part of the user session scope unit (session-XX.scope) when the user

Re: is there a reason for starting zookeeper.service in background?

2016-01-11 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 01/11/2016 03:48 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 11.01.2016 um 15:37 schrieb Michal Schmidt: >> On 01/11/2016 02:58 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >>> *nothing* needs a PID file path because systemd knows the main-PID >>> since it's a supervisor >> >> systemd ca

Re: is there a reason for starting zookeeper.service in background?

2016-01-11 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 01/11/2016 02:58 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 11.01.2016 um 14:32 schrieb Muayyad AlSadi: >>> "Type=forking" implies that depending services are started >>> *after* the forking and the service is *really* read (it needs >>> depending on the signatures a longer time for initalization) >> >>

Re: dnf replacing yum and dnf-yum

2015-04-08 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 04/08/2015 08:41 AM, Jan Zelený wrote: On 7. 4. 2015 at 17:53:42, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 04/07/2015 05:07 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: dnf's default behavior is like yum with --skip-broken already. WHAT? --skip-broken is a band-aid to work around packaging mistakes and bugs and NOT be the

Re: Issue with yum/systemd?

2015-03-10 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 03/10/2015 03:13 AM, Dave Johansen wrote: #0 0xb76debac in __kernel_vsyscall () #1 0xb7510d03 in __waitpid_nocancel () from /lib/libpthread.so.0 #2 0xb6fa4842 in rpmScriptRun () from /lib/librpm.so.3 #3 0xb6f83c53 in runScript () from /lib/librpm.so.3 #4 0xb6f8434f in runInstScript ()

Re: Why sysrq is limited to only sync command on official fedora kernel?

2015-02-25 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 02/25/2015 03:04 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 8:54 AM, Ali AlipourR alipoo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Why sysrq is limited to only sync command on official fedora kernel? The kernel itself isn't limited. It's just set that way in /usr/lib/sysctl.d/50-default.conf which is

Re: Why sysrq is limited to only sync command on official fedora kernel?

2015-02-25 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 02/25/2015 03:43 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Ali AlipourR alipoo...@gmail.com wrote: Why sysrq is limited to only sync command on official fedora kernel? The kernel itself isn't limited. It's just set that way in /usr/lib/sysctl.d/50-default.conf which is

Re: %{_unitdir} no longer defined in Rawhide

2015-02-05 Thread Michal Schmidt
Dne 5.2.2015 v 14:05 Richard W.M. Jones napsal: Somehow: RPM build errors: File must begin with /: %{_unitdir}/guestfsd.service It seems like _unitdir is no longer defined. Is this a bug? And in what package - my package or systemd? I checked the systemd commit log in Fedora and

Re: possibly problem with rawhide (systemd-217?): Found ordering cycle on basic.target/start

2014-10-31 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 10/31/2014 02:47 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: Oct 30 21:39:47 ubik.home.mkmiller.org systemd[1]: Found ordering cycle on basic.target/start Oct 30 21:39:47 ubik.home.mkmiller.org systemd[1]: Breaking ordering cycle by deleting job sysinit.target/start Matthew, are you showing only messages

Re: possibly problem with rawhide (systemd-217?): Found ordering cycle on basic.target/start

2014-10-31 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 10/31/2014 12:57 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: Oct 31 07:42:29 ubik systemd[1]: Found ordering cycle on basic.target/start Oct 31 07:42:29 ubik systemd[1]: Found dependency on sysinit.target/start Oct 31 07:42:29 ubik systemd[1]: Found dependency on systemd-update-utmp.service/verify-active

Re: possibly problem with rawhide (systemd-217?): Found ordering cycle on basic.target/start

2014-10-31 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 10/31/2014 02:03 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 01:44:27PM +0100, Michal Schmidt wrote: This ordering cycle was introduced recently by changes in nfs-utils's unit files when nfs-client.target got an After dependency on gssproxy. Are you sure? Looks like I last updated

Re: possibly problem with rawhide (systemd-217?): Found ordering cycle on basic.target/start

2014-10-31 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 10/31/2014 02:30 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: Oct 31 09:19:46 ubik systemd[1]: dev-mqueue.mount: Directory /dev/mqueue to mount over is not empty, mounting anyway. Oct 31 09:19:46 ubik mount[4484]: mount: mount point /dev/mqueue does not exist Oct 31 09:19:46 ubik systemd[1]:

Re: possibly problem with rawhide (systemd-217?): Found ordering cycle on basic.target/start

2014-10-31 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 10/31/2014 03:42 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Fri, 31 Oct 2014 14:01:12 +0100 Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote: So the problem appears to be that gssproxy.service been ordered before remote-fs-pre.target. That target is ordered before basic.target. However gssproxy.service also

Re: possibly problem with rawhide (systemd-217?): Found ordering cycle on basic.target/start

2014-10-31 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 10/31/2014 04:57 PM, Igor Gnatenko wrote: systemd-logind: failed to get session: PID 879 doesnt belong to any known session That's not necessarily related to the problem. I have this message in the log even when gdm works fine. Michal -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Anyone know how to get rsyslog to not use journald but to listen on /dev/log again.

2014-09-10 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 09/10/2014 02:10 PM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: We need this for running rsyslog within a docker container where systemd/journald might not be running. In /etc/rsyslog.conf remove $ModLoad imjournal, set $OmitLocalLogging to off and make sure $ModLoad imuxsock is present. Michal -- devel

Re: New Group Calls For Boycotting Systemd

2014-09-04 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 09/04/2014 05:11 PM, Sérgio Basto wrote: OTOH , the support of systemd is not good, we got bug opened and they are ignored as nothing happens, as for example bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1088619 The bug is unresolved so far, but it is not ignored. At least there is a

Re: /media - /run/media???

2014-08-14 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 08/14/2014 12:17 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 10:06:11AM +0200, Ondrej Vasik wrote: Actually I'm going to revert the /media - /run/media change. The above sentence is unfortunately ambiguous. It is really not solving the issue it was trying to help with and in

Re: fedora-release-$PRODUCT, /etc/issue, /etc/os-release, Per-Product Configs and more!

2014-07-10 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 07/10/2014 04:34 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: Basically, in order to swap out the productized and non-productized release packages, it's not actually as simple as 'yum swap fedora-release-standard fedora-release-server'. The way the dependency processing works in yum and dnf will generally

Re: dnf-0.5.3 and dnf-core-plugins-0.1.1 released

2014-07-03 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 07/03/2014 12:04 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: dnf remove python ends in remove dnf and yum too as weel as dnf remove kernel still offers to remove both protected_packages.py is missing from the package. Looks like an upstream bug - it's not referenced in plugins/CMakeLists.txt Michal -- devel

Re: dnf-0.5.3 and dnf-core-plugins-0.1.1 released

2014-07-03 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 07/03/2014 01:45 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: BTW: how do we handle the protection for systemd which is in case of YUM provided by the systemd package but DNF is not mandatory in F21 - so /etc/dnf/protected.d/ is only conditional available The dnf plugins looks at /etc/yum/protected.d/ too,

Re: trimming down Fedora installed size

2014-04-09 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 04/09/2014 09:33 AM, Marius A wrote: 3. cleanup /var/log/journal, which seems it's not automatically rotated It's supposed to be automatic. How big did it become on your system? If the default size limits do not suit you, you can change them in /etc/systemd/journald.conf. Michal -- devel

Re: F21 System Wide Change: lbzip2 as default bzip2 implementation

2014-04-04 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 04/04/2014 04:15 PM, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: Compression of payload.tar -- command| real | user | sys | memory | compr. size ---+++--++ lbzip2 | 3.36 | 170.07 | 6.38 | 380448 | 424676188 lbzip2 -u |

Re: Considering GNOME 3.12 as an F20 update

2014-04-04 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 04/04/2014 05:40 PM, Jiri Eischmann wrote: First after the upgrade I didn't even boot to GDM. Too bad I didn't debug it because I had already been considering a clean install, so I did it right away. My setup was not typical, I had been upgrading since F15. But apparently I was not the only

Re: DSO API stability guidelines

2014-03-21 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 03/21/2014 01:18 PM, Neil Horman wrote: Can anyone point me to fedora packaging documentation that discusses the need for API stability in packaged shared libraries? I'm sure we have some requirement that APIs in a DSO need to be versioned and maintained through a release, but for the life

Re: SystemD service stop behavior

2013-10-23 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 10/23/2013 04:09 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Should systemctl stop foo.service stop all parent and child service processes? systemd allows this to be configured in the service's unit file. See man systemd.kill. glusterd.service uses KillMode=process. Michal -- devel mailing list

Re: systemd journal interaction with btrfs, unfixable corruption

2013-09-25 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 09/25/2013 06:35 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: There are some reports of VM images on btrfs being corrupted somehow (although I don't think it's related to balance, I could be wrong), and the solution is to set VM images to nodatacow. So I wonder if there's some behavior of systemd journaling

Re: Why is AHCI built-in?

2013-08-28 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 08/28/2013 12:46 AM, poma wrote: On 19.08.2013 20:46, Kyle McMartin wrote: On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 01:35:16PM -0500, Ian Pilcher wrote: - What are the advantages of having the driver built-in, as compared to simply ensuring that it's always included in the initramfs? performance,

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring long-term FTBFS packages for Fedora 20 v2

2013-08-26 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 08/24/2013 11:21 AM, Till Maas wrote: The following packages did not build for two releases and will be retired around 2013-08-26 unless someone rebuilds them or announces to actively working on fixing them. icecream michich Oops, I should have noticed

Re: Mean machinery...

2013-07-22 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 07/20/2013 06:36 AM, Doug Ledford wrote: When a shutdown task isn't proceeding as planned on Fedora 19/rawhide, am I the only one that feels like I'm staring down the monocle of a Cylon and should be preparing to die? That or it's the hood from Kit off of Knight Rider... Hi Doug, The

Re: what is the F19 way to disable ipv6?

2013-07-15 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 07/13/2013 01:44 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: please take a look at this https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=982740#c12 what do we do in the future to disable ipv6 entirely and why is ipv6.disable=1 as kernel param at least with 3.10.0-1.fc20.x86_64 on F19? Back in 2011 the preferred

Re: How to remove auto generated python dependency?

2013-07-09 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 07/09/2013 05:26 PM, Denys Vlasenko wrote: Since they have #!/usr/bin/python header, build machinery automatically adds python dependency. But I don't want this to happen - the program is very much usable without python too. Requiring python pulls in a top of other stuff which isn't needed.

Re: vote for systemd: Nay.

2013-07-02 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 07/02/2013 04:08 PM, Jean-Marc Pigeon wrote: I was not expecting to have it fully working at the first attempt in my own container design, Would you be willing to provide some details about your container design? Ideally including the code to allow others to reproduce the problems you

Re: About volatile udev directory

2013-05-24 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 05/23/2013 11:46 AM, Sergio Belkin wrote: I've found the following in Fedora 18 [root@mpinode02 sergio]# LANG=C ls /run/udev/rules.d ls: cannot access /run/udev/rules.d: No such file or directory I haven't found anything in the changelog about a change about it, is there no more that

Re: Software Management call for RFEs

2013-05-23 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 05/23/2013 01:33 PM, Simone Caronni wrote: On 22 May 2013 23:18, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: (10) Get rid of multilib, /usr/lib64 etc and copy what Debian/Ubuntu are doing. might I ask the reasoning behind this? I found the current RHEL/Fedora approach much better. For example; at

Re: Software Management call for RFEs

2013-05-23 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 05/23/2013 01:44 PM, Jan Zelený wrote: +1 for this, the dependency hell for 32 bit applications is really a major pain in the new versions of Ubuntu. I have dealt with that multiple times and I wasn't able to resolve all the problems (e.g. Google Earth still doesn't work on Ubuntu for me)

Re: Software Management call for RFEs

2013-05-23 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 05/23/2013 03:10 PM, Jan Zelený wrote: On 23. 5. 2013 at 14:23:30, Michal Schmidt wrote: On 05/23/2013 01:44 PM, Jan Zelený wrote: +1 for this, the dependency hell for 32 bit applications is really a major pain in the new versions of Ubuntu. I have dealt with that multiple times and I

Re: F18 systemd update broke varnish service?

2013-05-17 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 05/16/2013 11:23 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: I noticed that varnish service doesn't work after systemd update to version 201-2 Please file a bug. Michal -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: when startup delays become bugs

2013-05-15 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 05/15/2013 12:56 AM, Jeffrey Bastian wrote: The slowest component on F19 is this new wait service: 10.102s NetworkManager-wait-online.service This service doesn't seem to do anything other than wait until the network is fully up. This really skews unfavorably the boot time

Re: when startup delays become bugs

2013-05-15 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 05/15/2013 02:25 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Wed, 15.05.13 12:55, Richard W.M. Jones (rjo...@redhat.com) wrote: Is there a constructive summary anywhere of what LVM needs to do / change? This problem affects libguestfs too. It should subscribe to block devices coming and going and

Re: when startup delays become bugs

2013-05-15 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 05/15/2013 02:58 PM, Farkas Levente wrote: On 05/15/2013 02:48 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: We nowadays require syslog implementations to be socket activatable, and that socket is around before normal services start, and that's guaranteed, hence nobody has to depend on syslog explicitly

Re: Packages requires /sbin/service.

2013-03-15 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 03/15/2013 06:53 PM, Dan Mashal wrote: On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de wrote: I am very much opposed to this change. You need to keep files which are expected to be in /bin or /sbin under these paths. /sbin is a symlink to /usr/sbin, so calling

Re: Packages requires /sbin/service.

2013-03-15 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 03/15/2013 07:00 PM, Dan Mashal wrote: Looks like you guys added provides(service) and fixed the problem. Yes, Lukáš added it. He even mentioned it in the email that started this thread. Still it would be nice to drop legacy provide name after packages stop Requiring it. Michal --

Re: Packages requires /sbin/service.

2013-03-15 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 03/15/2013 07:07 PM, Dan Mashal wrote: Well I was reading an IRC discussion on devel. I'm like a horse with blinders. This used to work and doesn't anymore. I cannot be sure, but I think you're referring here to the breakage caused by initscripts-9.45-1 due to the missing Provides:

Re: Making hplip use systemd

2013-03-11 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 03/10/2013 10:17 PM, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Is it possible to allow hplip use sytemd instead of cron? We're not quite ready for a migration to timer units. Feel free to use them on your system, but before we can do it in Fedora, we need at least to: - add anacron-like mode to systemd -

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd/udev Predictable Network Interface Names

2013-03-05 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 03/04/2013 04:01 PM, Matt Domsch wrote: drivers/net/ethernet/sfc/siena.c: efx-net_dev-dev_id = EFX_OWORD_FIELD(reg, FRF_CZ_CS_PORT_NUM) - 1; I think sfc does not really *need* to set dev_id. Yes, these are multi-port cards, but the ports are on distinct PCI functions. Michal --

Re: Non responsive state for systemd

2013-03-05 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 03/05/2013 04:02 AM, David Highley wrote: Unlike the bug report which indicates you can to a sync reboot, nothting but the power switch gets this system out of the issue. Did you use the -f switch? sync reboot -f Michal -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

retiring epdfview

2013-02-14 Thread Michal Schmidt
Hello, epdfview, a light-weight PDF viewer, is not maintained upstream anymore. The upstream developer recommends to switch to evince-gtk (a build of evince with minimal dependencies, requested in BZ#906121) or zathura. I am going to retire epdfview from Fedora. epdfview is used in Xfce and

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd/udev Predictable Network Interface Names

2013-02-06 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 02/05/2013 02:53 AM, Scott Schmit wrote: Is there a program/script we can run that would tell us what the interface names would be without biosdevname (without running the new version of systemd on the box)? If you have Fedora 18 with updates applied your systemd is new enough to allow

Re: Start of systemd timers after install/update of a package

2013-01-24 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 01/24/2013 04:03 PM, Jochen Schmitt wrote: The service was not started after the configure period was expired. Was the timer unit active? What does systemctl status yourunit.timer show? Michal -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd/udev Predictable Network Interface Names

2013-01-24 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 01/24/2013 04:17 PM, John Reiser wrote: Another cause for concern by users is the maintenance record of systemd: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=841822 pungi can't create installable media with F17 + updates For about five months from July through December 2012 The Bodhi

Re: comps' standard group spring cleaning?

2013-01-11 Thread Michal Schmidt
Dne 10.1.2013 21:28, Kevin Fenzi napsal(a): ok, I guess I could try again. Can we remove prelink? What does it get us these days? Has anything changed about prelink since the last time it was discussed here? prelink should not mess with running executables:

Re: Can systemd/PrivateTmp bug 851970 be fixed for F17?

2012-12-14 Thread Michal Schmidt
Dne 13.12.2012 22:52, Eric Sandeen napsal(a): I just spent too many hours re-triaging and re-discovering bug 851970, in which systemd + PrivateTmp does weird things with namespaces, thereby making it impossible to unmount filesystems under certain circumstances. 851970 was closed NEXTRELEASE,

Re: [Feature Suggestion] UsrMove continued

2012-10-10 Thread Michal Schmidt
Dne 10.10.2012 14:25, David Howells napsal(a): Actually, the UsrMove has mucked up at least one way of doing things: we have/had RHEL customer(s) who kept /usr on AFS and were able to boot just using the stuff in /bin and /sbin. This is no longer a viable option with Fedora, and presumably

Re: replacing rsyslogd in minimal with journald [was Re: systemd requires HTTP server and serves QR codes]

2012-10-09 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 10/09/2012 04:45 PM, Tom Hughes wrote: On 09/10/12 15:35, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: journalctl | fgrep? This one is pretty fine by me tbh. Sure, though having just tried that is took 33s to search about a months worth of logs instead of the 0.05s that greping the last months messages took ;-)

Re: replacing rsyslogd in minimal with journald [was Re: systemd requires HTTP server and serves QR codes]

2012-10-09 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 10/09/2012 05:30 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: Yes. Again, you're not the first person I've heard this from. Likewise, needing to fill out the .service extension. In current versions .service is implied if no extension is provided: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39386 Michal --

Re: prelink should not mess with running executables

2012-07-19 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 07/19/2012 01:17 PM, Jakub Jelinek wrote: These days I think init reexecs itself during shutdown sequence anyway, Yes, there's a reexec or two during shutdown. After stopping the units the usual way, systemd re-execs into a helper program (/usr/lib/systemd/systemd-shutdown), which does

Re: prelink should not mess with running executables

2012-07-18 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 07/18/2012 12:35 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Really? An example of a symbolic link pointing to a non-existent pathname? lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 15 Jul 17 18:02 /dev/stderr → /proc/self/fd/2 lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 15 Jul 17 18:02 /dev/stdin → /proc/self/fd/0 lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 15 Jul 17

Re: F18 DNF and history

2012-06-21 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 06/21/2012 02:23 PM, Matej Cepl wrote: we don't have quality uninstall á la aptitude (remove this package and all packages which were installed just to satisfy its requirements recursively) We do now. You can set clean_requirements_on_remove=1 in yum.conf Michal -- devel mailing list

Re: F18 DNF and history

2012-06-21 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 06/21/2012 04:27 PM, Nikola Pajkovsky wrote: Michal Schmidt mschm...@redhat.com writes: We do now. You can set clean_requirements_on_remove=1 in yum.conf in which version that is supported? Since 3.2.28-13 http://skvidal.wordpress.com/2010/11/09/orphaned-dep-cleanup-in-yum/ -- devel

Re: Schedule for Monday's FESCo Meeting (2012-06-18)

2012-06-19 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 06/18/2012 10:53 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: Well, even if Mozilla fixed that, such a solution wouldn't work for OS updates, already due to privilege reasons. i.e. pre-staging changes as root which are applied when a user does something simply cannot work if you care about security or

Re: Accidentally enabled service after update from F16 to F17 - solutions?

2012-06-14 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 06/14/2012 02:59 PM, Stanislav Ochotnicky wrote: +%triggerun -- jetty 8.1.2-9 You already have one triggerun for jetty in the spec: %triggerun -- jetty 8.1.0-3 You're likely to hit this RPM bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=702378 +/bin/systemctl --no-reload disable

Re: Accidentally enabled service after update from F16 to F17 - solutions?

2012-06-14 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 06/14/2012 04:19 PM, Stanislav Ochotnicky wrote: Quoting Michal Schmidt (2012-06-14 15:10:56) Is a running jetty really _that_ dangerous? Why do we ship it at all then? ;-) Why do we ship Apache, tomcat and tens (hundrets?) of other useful packages? Jetty unlike most packages _is_ remotely

Re: rawhide: libudev version bump, merged into systemd, libudev user need rebuild

2012-06-07 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 06/06/2012 04:25 PM, Michal Schmidt wrote: We will split out a systemd-libs subpackage to be more multilib-friendly. Done in systemd-185-4.gita2368a3.fc18. Michal -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: another upgrade, another disaster

2012-06-07 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 06/07/2012 10:33 AM, Benny Amorsen wrote: Yes, the invokation is specified in detail. There just isn't any documentation of what it actually does, I thought what convertfs does was quite clear. If you need to know the details how it does that, take a look at

Re: rawhide: libudev version bump, merged into systemd, libudev user need rebuild

2012-06-06 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 06/06/2012 03:26 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: But if there's not going to be a systemd-libs subpackage, any issues you do have with this scenario are systemd bugs. We discussed it recently with Kay. We will split out a systemd-libs subpackage to be more multilib-friendly. That said, we are not

Re: another upgrade, another disaster

2012-06-06 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 06/06/2012 12:15 PM, Benny Amorsen wrote: 3. yum *if you follow the instructions carefully* Those instructions include dracut doing unspecified magic. For other releases I'd agree with you and do a yum upgrade, but I must admit I don't dare try this time. Upgrading with Anaconda causes

Re: rawhide: libudev version bump, merged into systemd, libudev user need rebuild

2012-06-06 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 06/06/2012 05:39 PM, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote: Come to think of it... shouldn't the rules that come with a package be in /lib/udev/rules.d? Yes, but add the /usr prefix: %{_prefix}/lib/udev/rules.d/ Michal -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: rawhide: libudev version bump, merged into systemd, libudev user need rebuild

2012-06-06 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 06/06/2012 05:52 PM, Garrett Holmstrom wrote: Does rpm handle binaries' colors everywhere, or just in selected locations? I'm especially curious about /usr/lib. I don't know the answer in the general case, but it definitely works for binaries in /usr/lib/systemd/. No conflicts are reported

Re: rawhide: libudev version bump, merged into systemd, libudev user need rebuild

2012-06-05 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 06/05/2012 03:52 AM, Kay Sievers wrote: Systemd includes libudev.so.1, while the old libudev.rpm provided libudev.so.0. Therefore, all packages using udev need to be rebuilt. Here's a list of owners with packages that currently require libudev.so.0 in Rawhide. # repoquery --whatrequires

Re: another upgrade, another disaster

2012-06-01 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 06/01/2012 10:37 AM, Caterpillar wrote: Please apologize me, but if #820340 was not a showstopper, so which bug should be a showstopper? The bug * does not cause data loss * is easy to recover from * seems to be fixable with an update = Not what I'd call a showstopper. Michal -- devel

Re: SSD drives

2012-05-24 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 05/24/2012 10:45 AM, drago01 wrote: On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Juan Orti Alcaine - Disable the readahead service: systemctl disable systemd-readahead-collect.service systemctl disable systemd-readahead-replay.service systemd should just do that by default (it disables it

Re: SystemD: When to start service for file system kernel module

2012-05-24 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 05/23/2012 09:23 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: Here's my current service file for SPL: Lennart already pointed out a major problem, but here are some remarks about the unit file itself: [Unit] Description=Builds and installs new kmods for SPL Before=local-fs-pre.target When you are writing

Re: SSD drives

2012-05-24 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 05/24/2012 03:20 PM, Gerry Reno wrote: I also read here: http://ask.fedoraproject.org/question/909/enabling-trimdiscard-on-f16-using-lvm-on-luks about using TRIM with LUKS. Since I'm putting an SSD in my laptop this is important because the laptop drive must be encrypted. So is F17 going to

Re: nginx custom script location

2012-05-15 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 05/16/2012 12:21 AM, Jamie Nguyen wrote: /etc/init.d/nginx upgrade This has disappeared following migration to systemd, so my intention is to include an nginx-upgrade shell script to replace this functionality. My question is, where should this shell script go? In

Re: Please add GNU id-utils to Fedora

2012-05-14 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 05/14/2012 10:11 AM, Jim Meyering wrote: Miloslav Trmač wrote: I'm pretty sure that naming conflicts in /usr/bin have happened before in Fedora, I'm not sure how they were resolved. Even in a relatively minimal system, I see many programs installed in both /sbin and /bin, though none seem

Re: rawhide ext4/virtio FS performance hit (10x slower) ?

2012-05-14 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 05/13/2012 12:00 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: how can someone find out if it is a debug-kernel? even the satble ones seems to have a ton of debug options enabled especially CONFIG_DEBUG_KERNEL=y See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/KernelDebugStrategy to find what kernel config options to look

Re: Please add GNU id-utils to Fedora

2012-05-11 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 05/11/2012 10:14 AM, Jim Meyering wrote: Technically there is no need to change a name. In Debian, one can have two lid programs installed, one in /usr/bin and the other in /usr/sbin[*], so why not in Fedora? Technically there is no problem (at least until we decide remove the distinction

updates for bugs affecting multiple releases

2012-05-04 Thread Michal Schmidt
Reindl Harald wrote: dear maintainers: please take a tighter look for which release bugs are reported and consider that the reporter has exactly this and only this version installed and is not very happy about a has been submitted as an update for Fedora 17 notify without finding any build

Re: Logwatch - looking for testers

2012-05-04 Thread Michal Schmidt
Reindl Harald wrote: i do not speak about pushig them to updates-testing or even stable i speak about give me a koji-build which i can test Making the fix apply to the stable release often requires additional backporting effort. Michal -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: usrmove breaks on directory name conflict

2012-04-23 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 04/23/2012 05:45 PM, Daniel Drake wrote: cp: cannot overwrite directory /mnt/sysimage/usr/bin.usrmove-new/mkdir with non-directory Something failed. Move back to the original state. Rebooted back into F16. It looks like the issue was that I had a directory at /usr/bin/mkdir/. No idea how,

Re: /tmp on tmpfs

2012-04-03 Thread Michal Schmidt
Dne 3.4.2012 16:31, Chris Murphy napsal(a): My only concern about it being on tmpfs instead of on disk, is how big it could get, how much memory could be held hostage, until there's a reboot. I'd rather see it be both size and age limited (each item has a decay rate or something), so that it's

Re: Question mainline kernel on Fedora

2012-03-23 Thread Michal Schmidt
Dne 23.3.2012 16:24, Sergio Belkin napsal(a): I've found that Fedora provides mainline kernel to download. Is mainline a release candidate? I wonder if use that version is somewhat risky... What exactly are you talking about? Could you provide the URL you found? Michal -- devel mailing list

Re: Question mainline kernel on Fedora

2012-03-23 Thread Michal Schmidt
Dne 23.3.2012 17:23, Sergio Belkin napsal(a): Sorry I explained it bad, I'm talking about that latest release available of kernel for f16 is kernel-3.3.0-4.fc16.x86_64 and stable is 3.2.12 That does not mean that 3.3 is somehow unstable. It is supposed to be generally usable and not

Re: F17 latest yum update hoses grub.cfg, grubby?

2012-03-21 Thread Michal Schmidt
Dne 21.3.2012 03:56, Adam Williamson napsal: Properly, it ought to be versioned grub2-2.00-0.1.beta2.fc17. (Or possibly grub2-2.00-0.1.~beta2.fc17, I really dunno what that tilde is for). The tilde is a debianism to mark a pre-release. dpkg understands version 42~foo as lower than 42. Michal

Re: Slow shutdown with big file in /dev/shm

2012-03-20 Thread Michal Schmidt
Adam Jackson wrote: Now as to why we disable swap on shutdown, I'm not really sure. It certainly seems like useless work to me. We want to be sure we'll be able to stop/disassemble any block devices that are underneath it (RAID arrays etc.). Sure, if it's a simple partition, the work is

Re: does /etc/sysctl.d/ really obeyed and does really override /etc/sysctl.conf

2012-03-16 Thread Michal Schmidt
Dne 16.3.2012 14:40, Michal Hlavinka napsal: As I understand it, Muayyad has different problem. Right now, the /etc/sysctl.conf we ship is not empty. It has several values set, one of them is sysrq=0 he used in his example. No one set this is value, it's just default value and yet, no package

Re: Making PGP distribution key well-known

2012-03-01 Thread Michal Schmidt
Dne 1.3.2012 17:52, Petr Pisar napsal(a): where to get public key for verifying RPM signatures. The keys are at: https://fedoraproject.org/keys Michal -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: F17, Apple, EFI boot, livecd-tools

2012-02-29 Thread Michal Schmidt
Dne 29.2.2012 08:36, Adam Williamson napsal(a): I think there is a parameter you can pass to entirely disable plymouth, but I forget what it is. rd.plymouth=0 plymouth.enable=0 The first is for dracut. The second disables starting of plymouth from the systemd units. Michal -- devel

Re: Need help with systemd service files

2012-02-28 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 02/26/2012 07:37 AM, Garrett Holmstrom wrote: On 2012-02-24 4:22, Juerg Haefliger wrote: So I installed the official Fedora version of cloud-init but the service startup ordering is broken there too: [root@342 ~]# dmesg | grep cloud | grep About [ 91.668396] systemd[1]: About to execute:

Re: Need help with systemd service files

2012-02-28 Thread Michal Schmidt
Dne 28.2.2012 17:23, Garrett Holmstrom napsal(a): Of interest here is the fact that the script that cloud-init-local.service runs currently has a bug that causes it to return the wrong return code. Since cloud-init.target Requires that service (cloud-config.service does not function correctly

Re: Need help with systemd service files

2012-02-24 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 02/24/2012 01:22 PM, Juerg Haefliger wrote: Hmm... So I fail to see the difference between After and Wants then. What's the difference between ordering and requirement dependencies? See this explanation of the orthogonality of ordering and requirement dependencies by Lennart:

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