Re: fedora net install iso the possibilitie to add espeakup for people like me whome are blind?

2020-10-08 Thread Robbie Harwood
"Brian C. Lane" writes: > I don't think it is currently possible to make the iso accessible, That's unfortunate, and will hurt adoption with users who need it. Are there things that could be done to make it easier to add? By way of comparison, Debian's installer accessibility is documented

Non-responsive maintainer: noodles

2020-10-07 Thread Robbie Harwood
Hi, in accordance with https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Policy_for_nonresponsive_package_maintainers/ this is a non-responsive maintainer check for Nick Le Mouton. Non-responsive bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1886164 Unactioned bugs (CVEs from January; earliest from

Non-responsive maintainer: jhogarth

2020-09-30 Thread Robbie Harwood
Hi, in accordance with https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Policy_for_nonresponsive_package_maintainers/ this is a Non-responsive maintainer check for James Hogarth. Non-responsive bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1883892 Unactioned bugs (CVEs from 2019, oldest from 2017):

Re: This is bad, was Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: systemd-resolved

2020-09-28 Thread Robbie Harwood
Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek writes: > On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 01:14:14PM -0400, Robbie Harwood wrote: >> Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek writes: >> >> > Pfff, now I'm confused. Here is a case where systemd-resolved >> > implements the standard, and some people we

Re: This is bad, was Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: systemd-resolved

2020-09-28 Thread Robbie Harwood
Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek writes: > Pfff, now I'm confused. Here is a case where systemd-resolved > implements the standard, and some people were unhappy because they > were relying on sloppy implementations which don't follow the RFC. Yes, welcome to software development! Sometimes people

Re: F34 Change proposal: Debug Info Standardization (from DWZ to -fdebug-types-section) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2020-09-25 Thread Robbie Harwood
Jan Kratochvil writes: > So why is Google using it for everything? If I could eliminate one bad thought pattern in software design it would probably be this one. In brief: you are not Google, nor are you Facebook, nor Amazon. Your problems are not their problems. Your use case is not their

Re: Proposing an EPEL packaging SIG

2020-09-11 Thread Robbie Harwood
Neal Gompa writes: > On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 3:10 PM Robbie Harwood wrote: >> >> Michel Alexandre Salim writes: >> >> > * Have an expedited flow where this SIG can request EPEL branches and >> > admin access to packages if there are no response from packa

Re: Proposing an EPEL packaging SIG

2020-09-11 Thread Robbie Harwood
Michel Alexandre Salim writes: > * Have an expedited flow where this SIG can request EPEL branches and > admin access to packages if there are no response from package > maintainers for a set period (3 days? 1 week?) > * whether it should be full admin access or whether such access > should be

Re: The Future of the Java Stack (also regarding ELN and RHEL)

2020-09-10 Thread Robbie Harwood
Mikolaj Izdebski writes: > On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 3:46 PM Alexander Scheel wrote: >> >> Hi Joe, >> >> On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 8:52 AM Joe Orton wrote: >> > >> > Hi all, >> > >> > I'm writing as the Red Hat engineering manager responsible for Maven and >> > Ant in RHEL, and on behalf of

Re: F34 Change proposal: Remove support for SELinux runtime disable (System-Wide Change)

2020-09-10 Thread Robbie Harwood
Ondrej Mosnacek writes: > James Cassell wrote: >> Ben Cotton wrote: >> >>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Remove_Support_For_SELinux_Runtime_Disable >>> >>> == Summary == >>> Remove support for SELinux runtime disable so that the LSM hooks can >>> be hardened via

Re: Non-responsive maintainer: tmoertel

2020-09-04 Thread Robbie Harwood
Thomas Moertel writes: > Hi Robbie, > > I'm sorry to say that I can no longer maintain emacs-magit. Please > remove me as a maintainer. Appreciate the response, and your past work! Thanks, --Robbie signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ devel

Re: Non-responsive maintainer: domcleal

2020-09-02 Thread Robbie Harwood
Vít Ondruch writes: > Hi Robbie, > > I wonder if you had some intentions with the packages, If you're asking if I plan to take them, I do not. They have been orphaned, so anyone interested can pick them up. (They should refer to

Re: Non-responsive maintainer: domcleal

2020-09-01 Thread Robbie Harwood
"Dominic Cleal" writes: > Hi Robbie, > > On Tue, 1 Sep 2020, at 4:54 PM, Robbie Harwood wrote: >> Hi, in accordance with [1] this is a non-responsive maintainer check for >> Dominic Cleal. >> [..] >> So, does anyone know how to contact Dominic? > >

Non-responsive maintainer: domcleal

2020-09-01 Thread Robbie Harwood
Hi, in accordance with [1] this is a non-responsive maintainer check for Dominic Cleal. Non-responsive bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1874569 Unactioned bugs (earliest is January 2018): https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1538845

Non-responsive maintainer: tmoertel

2020-08-28 Thread Robbie Harwood
Hi, in accordance with [1] this is a non-responsive maintainer check for Tom Moertel. Non-responsive bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1873573 Unactioned bugs (earliest is February 2017): https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1221305

Re: Test machines for s390x?

2020-08-06 Thread Robbie Harwood
Adam Williamson writes: > Neal Gompa wrote: >> Adam Williamson wrote: >>> Robbie Harwood wrote: >>>> Elliott Sales de Andrade writes: >>>> >>>>> Now that ppc64 is gone, s390x is the only big-endian architecture >>>>> lef

Re: Test machines for s390x?

2020-08-06 Thread Robbie Harwood
Elliott Sales de Andrade writes: > Hi, > > Now that ppc64 is gone, s390x is the only big-endian architecture > left. Bugs around endianness are not usually difficult to fix, _if_ I > can debug it and see where exactly the problem is. However, this > requires a tedious guess-a-patch, try a

Re: Automatic logout due to quota

2020-08-03 Thread Robbie Harwood
Steve Grubb writes: > Hello, > > On Saturday, August 1, 2020 1:27:07 PM EDT Steven Grubb wrote: >> I was using my desktop system when I got logged out. After logging back in, >> I found this message in my logs: >> >> Aug 1 13:08:22 x2 journal[1751]: UID 1000 exceeded its 'bytes' quota on >> UID

[retitled] Fedora wiki and code tags

2020-08-03 Thread Robbie Harwood
Richard Shaw writes: > So I wanted to document a ham radio related howto, so I decided that I > would make it an extension of the Amateur Radio SIG wiki, and I've got an > incomplete version created: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/AmateurRadio/Howto/Pat > > How can a wiki not have some kind

Re: Can we use emulation of other architectures to run integration tests?

2020-07-30 Thread Robbie Harwood
"Richard W.M. Jones" writes: > On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 11:46:08AM -0400, Robbie Harwood wrote: >> Aleksandra Fedorova writes: >> >>> As COPR has recently got support for s390 builds, the question is: >>> if emulation is good enough for building pa

Re: Can we use emulation of other architectures to run integration tests?

2020-07-30 Thread Robbie Harwood
Aleksandra Fedorova writes: > As COPR has recently got support for s390 builds, the question is: if > emulation is good enough for building packages, can we use it for > testing? What are the limitations there? Is it worth it? Cross-architecture emulation is unbelievably slow in the general

Re: Remove all non UK/USA English spell checker variants from default Fedora installation

2020-07-20 Thread Robbie Harwood
Germano Massullo writes: > All desktop oriented Fedora installers install on the system packages: > hunspell > hunspell-en > hunspell-en-GB > hunspell-en-US > > When a user opens the language list of the spell checker, is has ~24 > different English options, like English (Antigua and Barbuda),

Re: Anyone using Tiled windows on Plasma out there ?

2020-07-14 Thread Robbie Harwood
Sergio Belkin writes: > What is the better option to to get tiled windows in Plasma? > > I've tried a few kwin scripts with no luck, for example: > > - Grid-Tiling > - Krohnkite > - Tiling Extension > > The best I've tried so far is the last one, but can be too unstable... > > What is your

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-06-30 Thread Robbie Harwood
Jóhann B. Guðmundsson writes: > On 30.6.2020 17:49, John M. Harris Jr wrote: >> On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 6:34:27 AM MST Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: >>> Given Hans proposal [1] introduced systemd/grub2/Gnome upstream changes >>> it beg the question if now would not be the time to stop

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-06-30 Thread Robbie Harwood
Jóhann B. Guðmundsson writes: > On 30.6.2020 13:56, Igor Raits wrote: >> On Tue, 2020-06-30 at 13:34 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: >>> >>> Given Hans proposal [1] introduced systemd/grub2/Gnome upstream >>> changes it beg the question if now would not be the time to stop >>> supporting

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-06-30 Thread Robbie Harwood
Igor Raits writes: > On Tue, 2020-06-30 at 13:34 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: > >> Given Hans proposal [1] introduced systemd/grub2/Gnome upstream >> changes it beg the question if now would not be the time to stop >> supporting booting in legacy bios mode and move to uefi only >>

Re: Please BuildRequire python3-setuptools explicitly

2020-06-25 Thread Robbie Harwood
Tomas Hrnciar writes: > We would like to kindly ask you to add explicit BuildRequires for > python3-setuptools to packages where setuptools is used. It will help > us with testing new versions of setuptools in the future or with > decoupling Python and setuptools. Today, if we want to know if a

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Fedora-Retired-Packages

2020-06-16 Thread Robbie Harwood
Miroslav Suchý writes: > Will be my mom able to write something like: > dnf remove $(dnf list extras | awk '{print $1} | grep -v > "package-I-still-want") > ? Quite possibly. It is safe to say most of us do not know your mother; while your mother may be not versed in scripting, plenty of

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: CompilerPolicy Change

2020-06-08 Thread Robbie Harwood
Igor Raits writes: > On Fri, 2020-06-05 at 23:11 -0600, Jeff Law wrote: >> On Fri, 2020-06-05 at 10:14 +0100, Jonathan Wakely wrote: >>> On 04/06/20 16:30 -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: >>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/CompilerPolicy In some ways this means there is no

Re: Speed up bash starting time (slow scripts in profile.d, /etc/bash_completion.d)

2020-05-18 Thread Robbie Harwood
Petr Pisar writes: > On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 12:56:06PM +0200, Dominique Martinet wrote: > >> How should I go about with that? Open bz bugs to all the packages I >> listed? strongly suggesting to get things to move to /usr/share (17) >> and flatpak (suggest some kind of cache? not sure they'll

Re: i3 new SIG

2020-05-14 Thread Robbie Harwood
Dan Čermák writes: > Eduard Lucena writes: > >> My name is Eduard Lucena, some of you maybe know me, tons of you >> don't. I'm part of the marketing team and host of the Fedora Podcast. >> >> I'm starting a SIG about i3 tiling window manager [1], with the final >> objective of create a remix

Re: Re-Launching the Java SIG

2020-05-13 Thread Robbie Harwood
Ty Young writes: > On 5/12/20 5:55 AM, Felix Schwarz wrote: >> Am 12.05.20 um 12:32 schrieb Ty Young: >> >>> Right, I figured it was some Fedora policy and not up to you. I >>> suppose I should have been more clear there. Sorry for any >>> confusion, it was aimed at the Fedora project as a whole

Re: Is dist-git a good place for work?

2020-05-07 Thread Robbie Harwood
Vít Ondruch writes: > Dne 06. 05. 20 v 20:39 clime napsal(a): >> On Wed, 6 May 2020 at 13:21, Fabio Valentini wrote: >>> On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 10:37 AM Vít Ondruch wrote: Dne 05. 05. 20 v 18:37 Fabio Valentini napsal(a): > On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 5:06 PM Tomas Tomecek wrote:

Re: Is dist-git a good place for work?

2020-05-06 Thread Robbie Harwood
Vít Ondruch writes: > Dne 05. 05. 20 v 21:26 Robbie Harwood napsal(a): >> Tomas Tomecek writes: >> >>> Thank you all for raising all the questions and concerns. >>> >>> Before I reply, I'd like to stress that we are still in a prototype >

Re: Is dist-git a good place for work?

2020-05-05 Thread Robbie Harwood
Tomas Tomecek writes: > Thank you all for raising all the questions and concerns. > > Before I reply, I'd like to stress that we are still in a prototype > phase - not everything is solved (clearly) and at this point, we > experiment with the workflow mostly. > > Luckily, force-pushes are not

Re: Non-responsive maintainer: mruprich (Michal Ruprich)

2020-04-23 Thread Robbie Harwood
Kamil Dudka writes: > On Thursday, April 23, 2020 4:08:24 PM CEST Robbie Harwood wrote: >> That's not how this works. > > Yes and I am trying to suggest you how to make it work. > >> Even if your assertion were true (which it isn't), we have a closure >> status for

Re: Non-responsive maintainer: mruprich (Michal Ruprich)

2020-04-23 Thread Robbie Harwood
Kamil Dudka writes: > On Wednesday, April 22, 2020 7:28:36 PM CEST Robbie Harwood wrote: >> To make this as clear as I can, let's look at >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1815163 > > The above mentioned ticket is not a bug report in the first place. That

Re: Non-responsive maintainer: mruprich (Michal Ruprich)

2020-04-22 Thread Robbie Harwood
Martin Sehnoutka writes: > Hi Robbie, > > I'm pretty sure Michal would respond if you contacted him via email. Hi Martin, you've dropped Michal from CC in your reply, but I did include Michal on my original email. In other words: this *is* contacting by email :) > Also Michal is far from

Non-responsive maintainer: mruprich (Michal Ruprich)

2020-04-21 Thread Robbie Harwood
Hi, in accordance with non-responsive maintainer policy [1], does anyone know how to contact Michal Ruprich (mruprich)? Michal, if you're still interested in maintaining your packages, please respond here and also in: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1815163

Re: The Chromium Dilemma

2020-04-14 Thread Robbie Harwood
Tom Callaway writes: > Recently, someone filed a bug against chromium, noting that it was > benchmarking notably slower than Google Chrome or chromium-freeworld > (from rpmfusion). I tested locally and confirmed it. They suspected > that Fedora's optflags were to blame, but since chromium

Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04

2020-04-06 Thread Robbie Harwood
Aoife Moloney writes: > * We found a password, we do not know whose it is, but we have turned > it into the lost and found. I'm sorry, what? Can you explain what this is and what it means? Thanks, --Robbie signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-02 Thread Robbie Harwood
Paul Frields writes: > Neal Gompa wrote: >> Nicolas Mailhot wrote: >>> Leigh Griffin a écrit : >>> To distill it down: - Gitlab has more features that are needed right now for our stakeholder group - Gitlab has an entire company dedicated to roadmap features, we do

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-31 Thread Robbie Harwood
Clement Verna writes: > Neal Gompa wrote: >> Clement Verna wrote: >> >> As for Pagure itself, I think this is where we fundamentally >> disagree. I think it behooves us to own and provide an experience >> tailored for our community from beginning to end. That's why we have >> Koji, Bodhi,

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V2

2020-03-30 Thread Robbie Harwood
Petr Pisar writes: > On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 12:56:42AM +0100, clime wrote: > >> You can make a separate namespace for this in dist-git. It doesn't >> need to be a separate branch. That way, you won't be disturbing >> anyone elses space. > > A different name space means a different repository.

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V2

2020-03-27 Thread Robbie Harwood
Stephen Gallagher writes: > Please see the newly-updated > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ELN_Buildroot_and_Compose > for more details[1]. This page states: > The fix will be done via a pull request that states a time limit. We > want the regular maintainers to see / comment / commit,

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose

2020-03-25 Thread Robbie Harwood
Neal Gompa writes: > Miro Hrončok wrote: >> Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> >>> In general, very few packages should even need conditionalizing at >>> all; that's why I've been saying that this discussion is premature. >> >> Most of the Python packages we maintain in RHEL would need

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose

2020-03-25 Thread Robbie Harwood
Nicolas Mailhot via devel writes: > Le mercredi 25 mars 2020 à 13:09 +0100, Aleksandra Fedorova a écrit : >> Miro Hrončok wrote: >> >> As I mentioned in the previous mail, branching goes against the >> purpose of the effort. >> >> What we like to achieve is to create a continuous flow from

Re: Should logrotate timer be enabled by default on all installations?

2020-03-18 Thread Robbie Harwood
Björn Persson writes: > Kamil Dudka wrote: > >> The timer is currently not enabled on fresh installs to avoid >> surprises (such as data lost) > > That's a surprise only if somebody expected that logs would be retained > forever. Do people expect that? Yes. > Random programs failing because

Re: RFC: entering luks password on grub level for devices without keyboards

2020-03-16 Thread Robbie Harwood
Tomasz Torcz writes: > On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 11:12:43PM +0100, Marius Schwarz wrote: >> Am 15.03.20 um 13:32 schrieb Vitaly Zaitsev via devel: >> > On 14.03.2020 13:05, Marius Schwarz wrote: >> >> If you encrypt  the fedora ( or any ) installation with luks, as >> >> security of a mobile

Re: Kerberos authentication fails: unable to obtain a session

2020-03-13 Thread Robbie Harwood
Ken Dreyer writes: > On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 11:55 AM Kevin Fenzi wrote: >> >> when you see a proxy name there it usually means you have rdns true in >> /etc/krb5.conf (it should be false), or krb_rdns or krb_canon_host true >> in /etc/koji.conf or ~/.koji.conf (should be false). > > I think

Re: Announcing start of DNF 5 development

2020-03-13 Thread Robbie Harwood
Daniel Mach writes: > Dne 12. 03. 20 v 19:26 Pat Riehecky napsal(a): > >> I realize I'm thinking about the Pie in the Sky, but: >> >> Would it be possible for 'microdnf' to become the base for 'dnf' so >> that extra 'dnf' functionality is added via some kind of >> modules/plugins/etc behaviour?

Re: __pycache__ in /usr/share

2020-03-03 Thread Robbie Harwood
Steve Grubb writes: > Hello, > > We are working on Application Whitelisting. For this to work, we need > to have a list of things that we trust. At the moment, that list is > well over 400k on a desktop install. But we really need to get that > smaller. Not that I disagree, but... to what end?

Re: State of FMN (FedMSG Notifications) and Replacement

2020-02-26 Thread Robbie Harwood
Clement Verna writes: > Fabio Valentini wrote: >> Clement Verna wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> FMN (https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications) is currently one >>> of the main blocking point for dropping fedmsg in favour of >>> fedora-messaging. FMN is quite important to the community and

Re: swap-on-ZRAM by default

2020-02-10 Thread Robbie Harwood
"John M. Harris Jr" writes: > On Saturday, January 25, 2020 2:52:05 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote: > >> Question and (pre)proposal: >> >> Can Fedora converge on a single swap-on-ZRAM implementation, and if >> so, which one? Fedora Workstation WG wants to move to swap-on-ZRAM by >> default in Fedora

Re: Fedora pagure confusion wrt EPEL

2020-01-31 Thread Robbie Harwood
Michael Schwendt writes: > On Fri, 31 Jan 2020 at 18:11, Robbie Harwood wrote: >> >> I could have also needinfo(Michael) (and in hindsight I probably >> should have), but based on their reaction, I don't think they would >> have been any happier with that. > &g

Re: Git Forge Requirements: Please see the Community Blog

2020-01-31 Thread Robbie Harwood
Neal Gompa writes: > Michal Konecny wrote: >> Vít Ondruch wrote: >>> Neal Gompa napsal(a): Randy Barlow wrote: > Vít Ondruch wrote: > >> cough cough errata cough cough >> >> Honestly, sometimes the disconnect between what is going on in >> Fedora and internally in

Re: Fedora pagure confusion wrt EPEL

2020-01-31 Thread Robbie Harwood
Fabio Valentini writes: > Michael Schwendt wrote: >> On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 14:44:50 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: >>> Fabio Valentini wrote: >> >> All this would not even interest me at all, but almost a week ago >> someone from Red Hat Security decided it would be a good idea to >> assign to me

Re: RFC: Security policy adjustments to make it easier to implement and more friendly to maintainers

2020-01-30 Thread Robbie Harwood
Richard Shaw writes: > Not replying to anyone in particular but to the thead as a whole... > > 1. Nothing in the packager introduction process prepares a packager > for what to do when they get a CVE filed against one of their > packages. I found the whole ordeal rather stressful. Agreed, this

Re: Git Forge Requirements: Please see the Community Blog

2020-01-29 Thread Robbie Harwood
Julen Landa Alustiza writes: > (snip) > > 20/1/29 14:49(e)an, Clement Verna igorleak idatzi zuen: >> To me that's the all point of this >> process, let's put down what we *really* *really* need and  then look at >> the different options. >> > > Do we *really* *really* need to compete with

Re: Ideas for better development processes when maintaining hundreds of packages

2020-01-28 Thread Robbie Harwood
Stephen John Smoogen writes: > On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 at 13:01, Robbie Harwood wrote: >> >> "Richard W.M. Jones" writes: >> >> > I always think that Fedora works fine if you maintain 1-5 packages. >> > It's possible to maintain 20 with a lot of wor

Re: Ideas for better development processes when maintaining hundreds of packages

2020-01-28 Thread Robbie Harwood
"Richard W.M. Jones" writes: > I always think that Fedora works fine if you maintain 1-5 packages. > It's possible to maintain 20 with a lot of work. And if you want to > maintain 100+ (things like the ocaml-* set that I help to maintain) > then you have to write your own automation. Could we

Re: Java Dev Group and Fedora Quality

2020-01-27 Thread Robbie Harwood
tMario Torre writes: > On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 5:28 PM Robbie Harwood wrote: > >>> You would not expect a GCC devroom to be concerned about the >>> problems of all packages written in C and C++, so why would Java be >>> any different? >> >> Hone

Re: Java Dev Group and Fedora Quality

2020-01-27 Thread Robbie Harwood
Andrew Haley writes: > On 1/26/20 11:52 AM, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: >> Le dimanche 26 janvier 2020 à 10:10 +, Andrew Haley a écrit : >>> On 1/26/20 8:43 AM, Nicolas Mailhot via devel wrote: >>> Java has been in a terminal course in Fedora for a year at least. You can see how much

Re: Git Forge Requirements: Please see the Community Blog

2020-01-22 Thread Robbie Harwood
Alexander Bokovoy writes: > On ti, 21 tammi 2020, Alex Scheel wrote: > >> For a period of time, IDM tried using Pagure for FreeIPA development. >> They filed a huge number of issues. Now we host issues on Pagure, and >> have moved development to GitHub. [*] I think we've mostly quit >> filing

Re: Update: AAA replacement login Initiative

2020-01-17 Thread Robbie Harwood
Andrew Lutomirski writes: >> On Jan 16, 2020, at 3:48 AM, Sarah Finn wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I hope you are all well. >> >> I would like to invite you to contribute to our new initiative: AAA >> replacement login. > > I’ll offer a couple of suggestions: > > Right now, I enter my Fedora

Re: Let's talk about Fedora in the '20s!

2020-01-08 Thread Robbie Harwood
"Colin Walters" writes: > On Tue, Jan 7, 2020, at 6:41 AM, Tom Hughes wrote: > >> I'd love to find a way to directly integrate the likes of gem, npm >> etc directly into our packaging rather than us having to repackage >> everything by hand but I just don't see any way of doing it without >>

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal (late): Enable EarlyOOM

2020-01-06 Thread Robbie Harwood
Chris Murphy writes: > Robbie Harwood wrote: >> "John M. Harris Jr" writes: >>> On Friday, January 3, 2020 1:51:00 PM MST Robbie Harwood wrote: >>>> Robbie Harwood writes: >>>>> Ben Cotton writes: >>>>> >>>>

Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

2020-01-06 Thread Robbie Harwood
Miro Hrončok writes: > On 06. 01. 20 12:44, Peter Robinson wrote: > >>> As said in the e-mail, if you think the policy needs to be adapted, >>> please discuss - I have made sure the recent changes in the policy >>> are discussed with the community, especially since you were so angry >>> when I

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal (late): Enable EarlyOOM

2020-01-06 Thread Robbie Harwood
"John M. Harris Jr" writes: > On Friday, January 3, 2020 1:51:00 PM MST Robbie Harwood wrote: >> Robbie Harwood writes: >>> Ben Cotton writes: >>> >>>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/EnableEarlyoom >>>> >>>&

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal (late): Enable EarlyOOM

2020-01-03 Thread Robbie Harwood
Robbie Harwood writes: > Ben Cotton writes: > >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/EnableEarlyoom >> >> == Summary == >> Install earlyoom package, and enable it by default. This will cause >> the kernel oomkiller to trigger sooner, but will not affect

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal (late): Enable EarlyOOM

2020-01-03 Thread Robbie Harwood
Ben Cotton writes: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/EnableEarlyoom > > == Summary == > Install earlyoom package, and enable it by default. This will cause > the kernel oomkiller to trigger sooner, but will not affect which > process it chooses to kill off. The idea is to recover from out

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers (incl. wine, dosbox, nextcloud, owncloud)

2020-01-03 Thread Robbie Harwood
Robbie Harwood writes: > Miro Hrončok writes: > >> The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they >> are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure >> that the package should be retired, please do so now with a

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Enable fstrim.timer by default

2020-01-03 Thread Robbie Harwood
Chris Murphy writes: > On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 9:06 AM Robbie Harwood wrote: >> Nico Kadel-Garcia writes: >>> On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 2:48 PM Robbie Harwood wrote: >>>> "John M. Harris Jr" writes: >>>>> On Friday, December 20, 2019 1

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Enable fstrim.timer by default

2020-01-03 Thread Robbie Harwood
Nico Kadel-Garcia writes: > On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 2:48 PM Robbie Harwood wrote: >> "John M. Harris Jr" writes: >>> On Friday, December 20, 2019 10:59:52 AM MST Chris Murphy wrote: >>> >>>> Issuing the command once per week harms no one >

Re: Minimize systemd for kdump's initramfs

2020-01-02 Thread Robbie Harwood
Kairui Song writes: > What I'm trying to do is reduce the initramfs size used for kdump. > Kdump loads a crash kernel and kdump initramfs image in a prereseved > memory region, which get booted when current kernel crashed and > perform crash dump. The prereserved memory is limited, so initramfs

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Enable fstrim.timer by default

2020-01-02 Thread Robbie Harwood
"John M. Harris Jr" writes: > On Friday, December 20, 2019 10:59:52 AM MST Chris Murphy wrote: >> Issuing the command once per week harms no one > > Based on what's actual in the Change proposal, this is not the case. > > Even if this goes through, in my opinion, it should only affect the GNOME

Re: devel Digest, Vol 190, Issue 186

2019-12-20 Thread Robbie Harwood
Hi, When replying to digests, I'd appreciate if you could please make an effort to have the posts thread properly for the rest of us. Fedora mailing list guidance on this: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines#Replying_to_Digests Thanks, --Robbie signature.asc Description:

Re: Non-responsive maintainer: bashton

2019-12-18 Thread Robbie Harwood
James Paul Turner writes: > Bugzilla: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1785011 > > This bug is part of the non-responsive maintainer procedure for > btashton, following > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Policy_for_nonresponsive_package_maintainers/ > . > > Both of your

Re: Bug filing/triage/ownership policy for modules

2019-12-18 Thread Robbie Harwood
David Cantrell writes: > On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 11:21:45PM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: >> On 17. 12. 19 21:57, David Cantrell wrote: >>> 1) Are modules allowed to bundle packages that are provided by and >>> currently maintained in the base system? Are there are restrictions >>> to what a

Re: Non-responsive maintainer tchaikov

2019-12-17 Thread Robbie Harwood
Ken Dreyer writes: > I work on a team at Red Hat with Kefu. He is very active with upstream > Ceph, though I have not watched his Fedora activity or lack thereof. > > Is there a particular Fedora bug that you need Kefu to address? This is probably about

Re: Allow comments and discussion even though an update was pushed to stable

2019-12-10 Thread Robbie Harwood
Fabio Valentini writes: > On Sat, Dec 7, 2019, 17:30 Mattia Verga via devel < > devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > >> Il 06/12/19 21:51, Johannes Lips ha scritto: >> >> "Johannes Lips" > >> >> >> >> >> We already have a tool for reporting issues and problems, and it's not >> >> bodhi. If

Re: Allow comments and discussion even though an update was pushed to stable

2019-12-06 Thread Robbie Harwood
"Johannes Lips" writes: > What I found weird is that you can't comment on an update, which is > already pushed to stable. A lot of users are only hit by a bug, once > it reaches stable and then you don't have any possibility to highlight > a bug report or an issue with this update. I would like

Re: Minimization Objective report

2019-11-15 Thread Robbie Harwood
Adam Samalik writes: > This is the Minimization Objective [0] update. > > Status: Discovery phase > > == Next phase approval == > > Next phase proposal [1] is being voted on by the Council — only positive > votes so far! > > == Feedback Pipeline == > > A few new features developed! > > 1/ A

Re: Modularity: The Official Complaint Thread

2019-11-11 Thread Robbie Harwood
Robbie Harwood writes: > Stephen Gallagher writes: > >> My intention was to provide some scope to the problem, because it >> seemed that a lot of alternatives being floated were not seeing some >> of the more subtle cases that we were trying to address. However

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers (incl. wine, dosbox, nextcloud, owncloud)

2019-11-06 Thread Robbie Harwood
Miro Hrončok writes: > The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they > are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure > that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: >

Re: Modularity: The Official Complaint Thread

2019-11-05 Thread Robbie Harwood
Stephen Gallagher writes: > My intention was to provide some scope to the problem, because it > seemed that a lot of alternatives being floated were not seeing some > of the more subtle cases that we were trying to address. However, the > biggest problem is that nearly every email to the list

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Modules in Non-Modular Buildroot

2019-10-18 Thread Robbie Harwood
Christopher Engelhard writes: > On 18.10.19 17:21, Robbie Harwood wrote: > >> While you're right that the solutions from source distros (i.e., NixOS >> and Gentoo) would be very hard to adapt, binary distros have also solved >> this problem in different ways. I'm mos

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Modules in Non-Modular Buildroot

2019-10-18 Thread Robbie Harwood
Stephen John Smoogen writes: > On Thu, 17 Oct 2019 at 14:15, Randy Barlow > wrote: > >> Or better, can we employ a solution that another distribution has >> developed? > > Not without using their packaging system, their build system and their > other design choices. Working out slots would

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Modules in Non-Modular Buildroot

2019-10-15 Thread Robbie Harwood
Tomasz Torcz writes: > On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 01:56:11PM -0400, Robbie Harwood wrote: >> Matthew Miller writes: >> >> > On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 12:36:15PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: >> >>> As package maintainers we all make technical decisions which have

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Modules in Non-Modular Buildroot

2019-10-15 Thread Robbie Harwood
Matthew Miller writes: > On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 12:36:15PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: >>> As package maintainers we all make technical decisions which have >>> significant impact on our users every day - whether that's in the >>> choice of defaults, choice of build flags, or whatever. Honestly

Re: Modularity and the system-upgrade path

2019-10-11 Thread Robbie Harwood
Chris Murphy writes: > On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 6:57 AM Simo Sorce wrote: >> On Fri, 2019-10-11 at 09:56 +0200, Daniel Mach wrote: >>> On 10/7/19 8:55 PM, Simo Sorce wrote: I have to ask, given containers are so popular and can deal with any dependency without conflicting with system

Non-responsive maintainer: jamielinux

2019-10-11 Thread Robbie Harwood
Hello, In accordance with Fedora's non-responsive maintainer policy, I'm sending this message in attempt to contact Jamie Nguyen (jamielinux). Required non-responsive maintainer bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1760898 Open unaddressed bugs (219 in total):

Re: Non-responsive maintainer: awjb (Andreas Bierfert)

2019-10-10 Thread Robbie Harwood
Andreas Bierfert writes: > On Thu, 2019-10-10 at 14:23 -0400, Robbie Harwood wrote: >> Hello, >> >> In accordance with Fedora non-responsive maintainer policy, I'm >> sending this message in attempt to contact Andreas Bierfert (awjb). >> >> Required

Re: Non-responsive maintainer: awjb (Andreas Bierfert)

2019-10-10 Thread Robbie Harwood
... and that's the wrong list. My bad. Thanks, --Robbie signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct:

Non-responsive maintainer: awjb (Andreas Bierfert)

2019-10-10 Thread Robbie Harwood
Hello, In accordance with Fedora non-responsive maintainer policy, I'm sending this message in attempt to contact Andreas Bierfert (awjb). Required non-responsive maintainer bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1760528 Open unaddressed bugs (53 in total):

Re: Modularity and the system-upgrade path

2019-10-08 Thread Robbie Harwood
Matthew Miller writes: > On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 03:20:21PM -0400, Alexander Scheel wrote: > >>> And where is the software for those containers coming from? Some >>> container registry like Docker Hub? One of the main points of >>> Modularity is to provide a trusted source of software to install

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-10-04 Thread Robbie Harwood
Pierre-Yves Chibon writes: > On Wed, Oct 02, 2019 at 03:17:33PM -0400, Robbie Harwood wrote: > >> With about six more emails about it, sure. And another piece of >> infrastructure that has to be up and bug-free. >> >> Even the gating and bodhi emails today

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-10-04 Thread Robbie Harwood
Björn Persson writes: > Panu Matilainen wrote: >> On 10/2/19 8:33 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: >>> On Wed, Oct 02, 2019 at 05:31:56PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: >>> > ○ Every changes to dist-git is done via pull-requests Erm, no thank you. Pull requests are a terrible

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-10-02 Thread Robbie Harwood
"Colin Walters" writes: > On Wed, Oct 2, 2019, at 1:40 PM, Fabio Valentini wrote: > >> As others in the thread have pointed out, mandatory pull requests >> just make no sense for most single-maintainer projects, which most >> packages probably are. > > Well, a lot of this relates to what the

Re: Fedora 31: Samba DC: "setup_kerberos_keys: generation of a des-cbc-md5 key failed: Bad encryption type"

2019-09-30 Thread Robbie Harwood
Dario Lesca writes: > I have fill this bug: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1757071 > > This error happen into my test Samba DC MIT Kerberos environment > If you suggest to me some trick I can test it Single-DES support has been removed from krb5 as per

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