Re: Proper way to keep service enabled when updated from sysv to systemd?

2019-08-14 Thread Robin Lee
On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 10:37 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 06:02:42PM +0800, Robin Lee wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I packaged xe-guest-utilities with a systemd service for Fedora. > > > > But there is an upstream rpm p

Proper way to keep service enabled when updated from sysv to systemd?

2019-08-13 Thread Robin Lee
Hi, I packaged xe-guest-utilities with a systemd service for Fedora. But there is an upstream rpm package that include the same service as a sysv one. And the service is enabled with the 'Default-Start' info in the init script after '/sbin/chkconfig --del xe-linux-distribution'. And when people

Re: Orphaned package "solfege"

2019-07-28 Thread Robin Lee
On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 2:32 AM Christian Krause wrote: > > Hi, > > I have orphaned the package "solfege" (a small music education tool to learn > to hear intervals, rhythms, ...). > > It does not build anymore [1] and there is no upstream activity since a few > years. > > Last stable version

Re: New Go Packaging Guidelines landed in rawhide (koji) today

2019-06-28 Thread Robin Lee
On Sat, Jun 8, 2019 at 10:35 PM Nicolas Mailhot via devel wrote: > > Hi, > > Fedora’s new Go packaging macros landed in rawhide (koji) today. > > The corresponding Fedora Go packaging conventions are therefore > EFFECTIVE for new rawhide builds. For the first time in Fedora’s > history, we will

package built but not tagged into Rawhide in Koji

2019-04-14 Thread Robin Lee
Hi, I have a package built on 10 Mar. Build is deepin-qt-dbus-factory-1.1.0-1.fc31[1]. The package is already available in public repo. But I just found it is not tagged into rawhide, queried with 'koji latest-build rawhide deepin-qt-dbus-factory'. I never met this case. What should I do? [1]

Re: Donate 1 minute of your time to test upgrades from F29 to F30

2019-02-28 Thread Robin Lee
On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 5:23 PM Miroslav Suchý wrote: > > Do you want to make Fedora 30 better? Please spend 1 minute of your time and > try to run: > > sudo dnf --releasever=30 --setopt=module_platform_id=platform:f30 > --enablerepo=updates-testing distro-sync > > If you get this prompt: > >

Re: Self Introduction: ChillyBot

2019-02-26 Thread Robin Lee
On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 2:42 AM absolutezero wrote: > > Hello everyone! > > My name is Chilly. I am looking to bring back Snort IDS into the Fedora > Project and maintain it for at least several years. I am relatively new to > packaging but have been using Fedora for many years now as my daily

Re: Call for participation: Fedora Flatpaks

2018-09-07 Thread Robin Lee
On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 5:15 PM Owen Taylor wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 2:52 AM, Robin Lee wrote: >> >> What does it mean for 'Fedora' Flatpaks? >> - Flatpaks that run on a Fedora runtime? Then, what's the benifit to >> use Fedora runtime instead of f

Re: Call for participation: Fedora Flatpaks

2018-09-07 Thread Robin Lee
On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 9:53 AM Owen Taylor wrote: > > I'd like to invite Fedora contributors to start creating Flatpaks of > graphical applications in Fedora. We're still working on putting the final > pieces into place to have a complete story from end to end, but it's > definitely close

iniparser SONAME bump in rawhide

2018-08-30 Thread Robin Lee
iniparser SONAME version bump from 0 to 1 since 4.1. All packages depends on iniparser should be rebuilt: - cava - spindown - ubridge robin ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Re: tool to order packages by build dependencies (rpmbuild-order)

2018-07-26 Thread Robin Lee
On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 1:21 PM Jens-Ulrik Petersen wrote: > > Hi, > > This is an early announcement about a tool called 'rpmbuild-order' I made to > sort RPM-based packages in build dependency order. I am not sure if such a > tool exists already? Certainly some tools like `mockchain` can

Re: Self Introduction: Kairui Song

2018-07-12 Thread Robin Lee
On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 2:33 AM, Kairui Song wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm working on submitting a package, it's my first package. So I want to > give a brief self-introduction here. > > My name is Kairui Song, I'm a software engineer at Red Hat, have been a Red > Hat employee for two years, and start

Re: Self Introduction

2018-06-06 Thread Robin Lee
On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 12:48 PM, Feather Lin wrote: > Hello Jerry, > Thank you! (謝謝!) Yes the 歡迎光臨 is mean welcome the people. Welcome! Feel free to check out the methods to contact the 中文 user group.[1] [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zh -robin 李瑞彬 >

fcitx-qt5 license changed to 'GPLv2+ and BSD'

2017-12-13 Thread Robin Lee
fcitx-qt5 1.2.1 license changed from 'GPLv2+ and LGPLv2+' to 'GPLv2+ and BSD'. -robin ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: review swap

2017-08-17 Thread Robin Lee
On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 6:32 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek < zbys...@in.waw.pl> wrote: > I'm looking for a reviewer for > > Bug 1478231 – Review Request: conda - Cross-platform, Python-agnostic > binary package manager > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1478231 Taken. You helped a lot to deepin

Re: Self-introduction: yecheng

2017-08-01 Thread Robin Lee
On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 9:45 PM, Cheng Ye wrote: > I'm an inexperienced high school student interested in poping some > packages off the package maintainer wishlist (and hopefully learn to read > others source codes more efficiently) during this summer vacation. > > This is the

Re: Self Introduction: Junwei Fang

2017-07-17 Thread Robin Lee
On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 3:01 PM, 方俊伟 wrote: > Dear, >Hello, everybody. My name is Junwei Fang, a developer of C++. I am > from China > I worked for a little company, my work is about VoIP. I use fedora > workstation as my default OS, > i worked with gnome desktop for

Re: Self Introduction: Jeffrey Lau

2017-03-02 Thread Robin Lee
On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 9:48 AM, Jeffrey Lau wrote: > Hi fellow Fedora devs, > > My name is Jeffrey Lau, and I'm from Hong Kong. > I started using Fedora since Core 2, and have been a fan since then. > I also enjoy tinkering my Bash prompts ... O_o > After all these years,

Re: Self Introduction: Stephen Kitt

2017-02-23 Thread Robin Lee
On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 1:48 AM, Stephen Kitt wrote: > Hi everyone, > > As part of the "join the package collection maintainers" process, I'd like > to > introduce myself — I've just submitted my first review request > (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1426333). > > I'm

Re: cpio: Digest mismatch

2017-02-23 Thread Robin Lee
On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 12:32 PM, wrote: > Hi Guys, > I have a source file of 6 GB and i try to create an RPM using the spec > file. > After creating the RPMS , i installed on the machines. But i am not able > to do the command : > "rpm -ivh

Re: Offering help for audio related packages, seeking sponsor

2016-10-19 Thread Robin Lee
On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 5:31 PM, Guido Aulisi wrote: > Hi, > I recently posted 2 review requests and a sponsor request for 2 audio > related packages, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1373641 > and https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1374510 and I am >

Re: rpm: %patch needs --fuzz

2016-05-04 Thread Robin Lee
On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 9:22 PM, Neal Becker wrote: > In an rpm .spec I need a patch with more fuzz > > %patch macro > > doesn't seem to accept --fuzz=xxx > > What's a good solution? > -- > devel mailing list > devel@lists.fedoraproject.org >

Re: Large number of packages to be orphaned on Feb 26

2016-02-21 Thread Robin Lee
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 2:59 PM, Petr Šabata wrote: > On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 01:09:22PM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: > > rpms/dmenu -- Generic menu for X ( master f23 f22 epel7 el6 ) > > I'll take this one, finally. > P > > -- > devel mailing list > devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Self Introduction: Yang JiaXun

2015-11-21 Thread Robin Lee
Hi Yang, Welcome to Fedora. And it would be great if you can join the Chinese mailing list[1]. [1] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/chinese -robin On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 10:57 PM, 杨嘉勋 wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Flygoat > > I'm a middle

global and global-ctags license tags revised

2015-11-12 Thread Robin Lee
License tag of global changed from 'GPLv2+ and BSD' to 'GPLv3+ and LGPLv2+ and BSD and GPLv2+ and MIT' License tag of global-ctags changed from 'GPLv2+ and BSD' to 'GPLv3+' -robin -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora

Re: Self Introduction: Jianhong

2015-11-08 Thread Robin Lee
Hi Yin, Welcome to Fedora. And it would be great if you can join the Chinese mailing list[1]. [1] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/chinese -robin On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 12:40 PM, 尹剑虹 wrote: > Hi all > > I am glad to join the Fedora Project, and going to

python-shadowsocks license changed

2015-10-30 Thread Robin Lee
python-shadowsocks 2.8.2 license changed from 'MIT' to 'ASL 2.0' -robin -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: scriplet issues installing deps in f23 mock

2015-10-02 Thread Robin Lee
I met the exact same problem. -robin On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 6:17 AM, Cole Robinson wrote: > I'm hitting scriplet errors when trying to build f23 qemu in mock on an up > to > date f23 host. Example: > > $ mock --root fedora-23-x86_64 --init > ... > $ mock --root

Re: libvpx got soname bump and no one noticed?

2015-05-27 Thread Robin Lee
Marcin: Oh. You said you upgraed to Rawhide. But you seems not actually using Rawhide repos. -robin On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Robin Lee cheese...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Marcin: You should update rpmfusion-free-relase. And run 'dnf downgrade ffmpeg-libs'. There is no 'branched

Re: libvpx got soname bump and no one noticed?

2015-05-27 Thread Robin Lee
Marcin: You should update rpmfusion-free-relase. And run 'dnf downgrade ffmpeg-libs'. There is no 'branched' repos in RPMFusion. And before f22 is released, you are actually using the 'rawhide' repos of RPMFusion. But After f22 released, RPMFusion f22 repos is then finally branched and the yum

License of python-nltk-3.0.0 specified to 'ASL 2.0 and GPLv2+ with exceptions'

2014-10-26 Thread Robin Lee
License of python-nltk-3.0.0 specified from 'ASL 2.0' to 'ASL 2.0 and GPLv2+ with exceptions'. -robin -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

vmpk 0.6.0 license changed to 'GPLv3+'

2014-10-19 Thread Robin Lee
vmpk 0.6.0 license changed from 'GPLv3+ and (LGPLv2 with exception or GPLv3)' to 'GPLv3+'. Cheers -robin -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED][FINAL NOTICE] Retiring packages for Fedora 21 v4

2014-07-02 Thread Robin Lee
I would like to take this one: espresso-aborphan, chitlesh FAS ID: cheeselee -robin On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 3:48 AM, Till Maas opensou...@till.name wrote: On Wed, Jul 02, 2014 at 06:49:23PM +0800, Christopher Meng wrote: I'd like to take these 3: bitbake

stardict-3.0.5-1 license revised from 'GPLv3' to 'GPLv3+ and GPLv2+ and CPL'

2014-06-28 Thread Robin Lee
stardict-3.0.5-1 license revised from 'GPLv3' to 'GPLv3+ and GPLv2+ and CPL' -robin -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: boost141 and stability of Boost API?

2013-09-28 Thread Robin Lee
Upstream Tracker is a convenient place for checking API/ABI changes: For Boost: http://upstream-tracker.org/versions/boost.html -robin On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Dave Johansen davejohan...@gmail.comwrote: I just noticed that the boost141 package had been previously available in

cherrytree-0.30.5 license changed from GPLv2+ to GPLv3+

2013-09-26 Thread Robin Lee
Hi, cherrytree-0.30.5 license changed from GPLv2+ to GPLv3+ -robin -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: [RFC] Easiest making kernel rpms from upstream git

2013-08-28 Thread Robin Lee
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Igor Gnatenko i.gnatenko.br...@gmail.comwrote: Today I've wrote article w/ many notes about bisecting kernel [0], but I've used make bzImage, make install and the same commands bypassing RPM and I have IMHO good idea to write utility, that will be build rpm

fcitx-unikey-0.2.2 license tag corrected from GPLv2+ to GPLv3+

2013-08-23 Thread Robin Lee
The previous version 0.1.1 is already under GPLv3+. -robin -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: orphaning of packages

2013-08-16 Thread Robin Lee
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Dennis Gilmore den...@ausil.us wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, Jima has not been able to make enough time for Fedora lately and asked me to orphan and announce the packages he maintains. alsa-oss aoetools banner banner

perl-Net-ARP-1.0.8 license change

2013-08-02 Thread Robin Lee
perl-Net-ARP-1.0.8 license is changed from 'GPL+ or Artistic' to 'GPLv2'. -robin -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

lonote-2.2.1 license changed from 'GPLv3 and ASL 2.0' to 'ASL 2.0'

2013-07-08 Thread Robin Lee
lonote-2.2.1 license has changed from 'GPLv3 and ASL 2.0' to 'ASL 2.0'. Cheers -robin -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

perl-File-Next 1.12 license corrected to 'Artistic 2.0'

2013-04-29 Thread Robin Lee
Upstream has mis-matched licensing in Makefile.PL and in the source code. I corrected the License in specfile following the source code. robin -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: quotatool

2012-12-31 Thread Robin Lee
Hi, You can send a mail to the maintainer directly. You can find his/her Email address[1] in RPM changelog. [1] * Tue Sep 29 2009 Xia Shing Zee XiaShing # gmail.com 1.4.11-8 robin On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Christopher Meng cicku...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I just want to find the reason

Re: 'newpackager' is not in FAS, or How to co-maintain a package before getting sponsored

2012-09-29 Thread Robin Lee
On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 12:24:40PM +0800, Robin Lee wrote: On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Jason L Tibbitts III ti...@math.uh.edu wrote: RL == Robin Lee cheese...@fedoraproject.org writes: RL Hi

Re: 'newpackager' is not in FAS, or How to co-maintain a package before getting sponsored

2012-09-29 Thread Robin Lee
On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 02:00:36PM +0800, Robin Lee wrote: On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 12:24:40PM +0800, Robin Lee wrote: On Sat

'newpackager' is not in FAS, or How to co-maintain a package before getting sponsored

2012-09-28 Thread Robin Lee
Hi, all I want to follow the route [1] to bring up a new packager. But when I try to approve commit privilege for him, pkgdb says: ... must be in one of these groups: ('cvsadmin', 'packager', 'provenpackager', 'newpackager') to hold the commit acl I think he should join the 'newpackager' FAS

Re: 'newpackager' is not in FAS, or How to co-maintain a package before getting sponsored

2012-09-28 Thread Robin Lee
On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Jason L Tibbitts III ti...@math.uh.eduwrote: RL == Robin Lee cheese...@fedoraproject.org writes: RL Hi, all I want to follow the route [1] to bring up a new RL packager. Then why not follow the procedure you referenced? It tells you what to do, which

Re: Calling for the packager of fping

2012-08-23 Thread Robin Lee
Hi, Meng. If you would like to help, you can go through [1] to take over the package ownership. [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Policy_for_nonresponsive_package_maintainers cheers, robin On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Christopher Meng cicku...@gmail.comwrote: Hey all, I wonder if

Re: Calling for the packager of fping

2012-08-23 Thread Robin Lee
Then you may file a bug against the EPEL branch to ask the maintainer to make an upgrade. On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Christopher Meng cicku...@gmail.comwrote: Sorry I forgot that I mean the 'fping' is the package in EPEL, not Fedora, sorry! -- *Yours sincerely,* *Christopher Meng*

Shutter license changed to GPLv3+

2012-08-10 Thread Robin Lee
Shutter license changed to GPLv3+ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Review swap for a simple Perl module required by Shutter update

2012-07-06 Thread Robin Lee
Hi. The link is : https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=832353perl-Net-Dropbox-API I can review a package in C/C++, Perl or Python. robin -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Self Introduction: Christopher Meng

2012-06-27 Thread Robin Lee
你好, Meng! I am a packager from China. I will go to Beijing next week. We can make friends and study packaging. robin On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Christopher Meng cicku...@gmail.comwrote: I'm a senior high school student from Beijing,China.I love many things,especially Linux. I'm also an

Re: About placement of dual-life modules

2011-04-27 Thread Robin Lee
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 11:00:46PM +0800, Robin Lee wrote: Some dual-life modules, like PathTools and CGI, are placed within vendor path in Fedora 15. This situation is not expected by some applications, for example, cpanm

About placement of dual-life modules

2011-04-26 Thread Robin Lee
Hi, all! Some dual-life modules, like PathTools and CGI, are placed within vendor path in Fedora 15. This situation is not expected by some applications, for example, cpanm -L command will definitely fail if an installing package needs such dual-life modules. So, why not just exclude such

Re: Manipulate Dev. release number properly

2011-02-23 Thread Robin Lee
We can use the v-string feature provided by Perl itself to normalize the version numbers of CPAN module rpms. We always convert the legacy decimal versions to normalized v-string, and use the v-string number as the rpm version, since v-string is friendly with rpm and also works within the Perl

Re: how to include a .so file in my python rpm

2011-01-26 Thread Robin Lee
Just remove the line 'BuildArch: noarch' from your specfile? On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 9:59 PM, Erik Blankinship jedier...@gmail.comwrote: In my python application, I need to include a .so binary I built of a custom gstreamer plugin. My python application works fine with this plugin when

python-nltk ownership changed

2010-11-12 Thread Robin Lee
python-nltk ownership is passed from 'salimma' to 'cheeselee'. Cheers. Robin 'cheese' Lee -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: orphan most of my packages

2010-10-17 Thread Robin Lee
to you. On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 7:29 PM, Robin Lee robinlee.s...@gmail.com wrote: python-alsa is taken by 'cheeselee' On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 10:13 PM, Andy Shevchenko andy.shevche...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I have no more time to support the following packages in the Fedora

Re: orphan most of my packages

2010-10-17 Thread Robin Lee
send them to you. On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 7:29 PM, Robin Lee robinlee.s...@gmail.com wrote: python-alsa is taken by 'cheeselee' On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 10:13 PM, Andy Shevchenko andy.shevche...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I have no more time to support the following packages

Re: orphan most of my packages

2010-10-10 Thread Robin Lee
python-alsa is taken by 'cheeselee' On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 10:13 PM, Andy Shevchenko andy.shevche...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I have no more time to support the following packages in the Fedora. jack-audio-connection-kit -- The Jack Audio Connection Kit klamav -- Clam Anti-Virus on the

Re: python3 rpm macros not available without python3-devel installed

2010-09-15 Thread Robin Lee
a violation of a precondition. On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 19:35 +0800, Robin Lee wrote: You should build this package in a clean root like a mock environment. If you have python3-devel already installed and then run rpmbuild --rebuild, you will not see the issue. On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Robin

Re: python3 rpm macros not available without python3-devel installed

2010-09-15 Thread Robin Lee
Oh, sorry. I may have chosen a bad email subject. This failed scratch build shows what was happening: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=2468876 On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 11:07 PM, Robin Lee robinlee.s...@gmail.com wrote: The main issue is failing to use a macro defined

python3 rpm macros not available without python3-devel installed

2010-09-15 Thread Robin Lee
python3 rpm macros not available without python3-devel installed. 'rpmbuild --viewrc' will show you. So if you use the python3 macros to define another macro and you have no python3-devel installed, you must fail. So, how to define, for example, a %py3_ver macro for the major version of Python3?

Re: python3 rpm macros not available without python3-devel installed

2010-09-15 Thread Robin Lee
to get what we want. See this patch: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=447458action=diff Robin On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 12:17 AM, Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 07:25:49PM +0800, Robin Lee wrote: For a more concrete example: https