Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: systemd-resolved

2020-07-27 Thread Solomon Peachy
e. So users needing a non-volatile resolv.conf already have to take extra steps to achieve that. Under this proposal, different (but simpler!) steps will be necessary to achieve the same result. - Solomon -- Solomon Peachypizza at shaftnet do

Re: memory testing

2020-07-15 Thread Solomon Peachy
t we want > people to try using. Yes and no -- having it available on the fedora installer media is quite useful, and since that's going to have to support dual BIOS/UEFI booting, there's not really any downside. (beyond keeping it building anyway..) - Solomon -- So

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-07-11 Thread Solomon Peachy
al > > profit. > Really? Yeah, yeah.. :) Even if I've lost the ability to do basic math, I think my point is still valid. If the NRE is less than the marginal BOM cost multiplied out by the expected production run, it's considered a net win. - Solomon -- Solomon Peachy

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-07-11 Thread Solomon Peachy
button vs pure digital implementation reduces the _support_ costs, so it's better to stick with a button, but if we're being honest here most of the time post-sales lifecycle implications are rarely given any consideration at all. - Solomon -- Solomon Peachypizza at s

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-07-10 Thread Solomon Peachy
> things the manufacturer disagreees with. s/manufacturer/device owner/ - Solomon -- Solomon Peachypizza at shaftnet dot org (email) @pizza:shaftnet dot org (matrix) High Springs, FL speachy (freenode) s

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-07-10 Thread Solomon Peachy
s to say that if you're going to ship a 64-bit Windows install it needs to default to, and be certified with, CSM-less UEFI booting. Secure boot is not a requirement for servers. [1] https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/compatibility/whcp-speci

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-07-05 Thread Solomon Peachy
think Fedora should only start considering dropping BIOS support > once the default is UEFI on most virtualization platforms. FWIW, I completely agree with this. - Solomon -- Solomon Peachypizza at shaftnet dot org (email) @pizza:s

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-07-05 Thread Solomon Peachy
also a small pile of VMs too, generally used as build hosts or for QA-type work. Nearly all are considered disposable and can be easily recreated) For the record, I think any notion of auto-migrating systems from BIOS to UEFI booting is insane. And any talk of retiring BIOS support in Fedora sh

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-07-05 Thread Solomon Peachy
So using the absense of chromebooks in the numbers I referenced actually boosts, rather than undermines, my argument. Oh, there were supposedly 17 million chromebooks shipped in 2019, versus 261 million "PCs" and 12-ish million "servers". ...Is this horse sufficiently

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-07-05 Thread Solomon Peachy
because it used custom hardware that relied on drivers that didn't run on anything newer. This same line had a reflow oven powered by a 386 running DOS..) - Solomon -- Solomon Peachypizza at shaftnet dot org (email) @pizza:shaftnet d

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-07-05 Thread Solomon Peachy
numbers that show the actual install base of in-use BIOS-boot and BIOS-only systems, I'd love to see them. And I'll gladly donate the contents of my wallet to the EFF if the BIOS numbers are still growing in absolute terms -- ie new systems being deployed faster than

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-07-04 Thread Solomon Peachy
will only decrease further. Pretending otherwise is delusional. I stand by what I've written, and I've backed it up with actual numbers and only a minor amount of conjecture. Please, prove me wrong. - Solomon -- Solomon Peachypizza at shaftnet dot org (email)

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-07-04 Thread Solomon Peachy
etending otherwise is delusional, and delusions are no basis for technical decisions. - Solomon -- Solomon Peachypizza at shaftnet dot org (email) @pizza:shaftnet dot org (matrix) High Springs, FL speachy (freenode)

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-07-02 Thread Solomon Peachy
; is suddenly a bad thing when it's in systemd's favor..) - Solomon -- Solomon Peachypizza at shaftnet dot org (email) @pizza:shaftnet dot org (matrix) High Springs, FL speachy (freenode) signature.asc Des

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-07-02 Thread Solomon Peachy
d-boot is the lean, tightly-focused do-only-one-thing tool without any reported CVEs. (seriously, the most recent systemd tarball is over 2.5MB smaller than the most recent grub2 tarball) - Solomon -- Solomon Peachypizza at shaftnet dot org

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-07-02 Thread Solomon Peachy
I still have two running systems that that lack UEFI; both are AMD-platform server boards, and the newer of the two was first made in 2007 and was EOL'd in 2011. Plus a small pile of VMs..) - Solomon -- Solomon Peachypizza

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-07-01 Thread Solomon Peachy
de, for the past several years CSM/BIOS has been slowly bitrotting due to a lack of real testing, as the last few Windows releases have mandated use of UEFI for preinstalled systems, plus the EOLing of Windows 7 and (especially) XP. - Solomon -- Solomon Peachypizza at

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

2020-06-29 Thread Solomon Peachy
ed. Perhaps one can argue that Fedora has already been doing that for the past two years (since 2018-or-later-btrfs is what everyone with positive results appears to be talking about), but it's still not clear that those deployments utilize the same feature set as Fedora's defaults, and how b

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

2020-06-29 Thread Solomon Peachy
, the traditional beta period is _way_ too short for something like this!) - Solomon -- Solomon Peachypizza at shaftnet dot org (email) @pizza:shaftnet dot org (matrix) High Springs, FL speachy (freenode) s

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

2020-06-27 Thread Solomon Peachy
re, aka the device manufacturer. For that equipment, btrfs is an implementation detail, completely hidden from the user. - Solomon -- Solomon Peachypizza at shaftnet dot org (email) @pizza:shaftnet dot org (matri

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

2020-06-27 Thread Solomon Peachy
point of removing support for it? And what has changed since then? - Solomon -- Solomon Peachypizza at shaftnet dot org (email) @pizza:shaftnet dot org (matrix) High Springs, FL speachy (freenode) signature.asc

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make nano the default editor

2020-06-26 Thread Solomon Peachy
On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 12:38:40PM -0400, Ben Rosser wrote: > The -t/--tempfile switch for nano (and pico) does exactly this: > https://linux.die.net/man/1/nano Yeah, I've had EDITOR='nano -t -r 72' set in my .profile for as long as I can remember. - Solomon -- Solomon

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

2020-06-26 Thread Solomon Peachy
erhaps the underlying hardware; I suspect the server-class hardware facebook uses is a grade above the typical desktop..) - Solomon -- Solomon Peachypizza at shaftnet dot org (email) @pizza:shaftnet dot org (matrix) High Springs, FL

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

2020-06-26 Thread Solomon Peachy
esystem loss across clean shutdown/restart cycles. Hardware is still in use, and other than a failed fan, hasn't so much as hiccupped since scrapping btrfs) - Solomon -- Solomon Peachypizza at shaftnet dot org (email) @pizza:shaftn

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make nano the default editor

2020-06-26 Thread Solomon Peachy
ed at, oh, gedit when running under X/Wayland could actually be quite useful and consistent with the experience they're already used to. - Solomon -- Solomon Peachypizza at shaftnet dot org (email) @pizza:shaftnet dot org (matrix) Hig

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make nano the default editor

2020-06-26 Thread Solomon Peachy
ecause git is just short for github!) - Solomon [who greatly prefers emacs] -- Solomon Peachypizza at shaftnet dot org (email) @pizza:shaftnet dot org (matrix) High Springs, FL speachy (freenode) signa

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make nano the default editor

2020-06-26 Thread Solomon Peachy
s very much not. - Solomon -- Solomon Peachypizza at shaftnet dot org (email) @pizza:shaftnet dot org (matrix) High Springs, FL speachy (freenode) signature.asc Description: PGP sig

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make nano the default editor

2020-06-25 Thread Solomon Peachy
uite useful, far more so for "developers" than "normal" folks whose command line interaction is limited to pasting things in from random web pages or "curl | bash" invocations. - Solomon -- Solomon Peachypizza at shaftnet dot org (email)

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Fedora-Retired-Packages

2020-06-17 Thread Solomon Peachy
this meta-container thing of disparate, optionally-installable software that's sorta configured to generally work together. I know, we can call this thing "An Older Fedora Linux Distribution" - Solomon -- Solomon Peachypiz

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Fedora-Retired-Packages

2020-06-16 Thread Solomon Peachy
updated with security fixes" And "broken" in this context means nothing more than "failed to package/build", because "packaged" doesn't mean "it actually works/runs". - Solomon -- Solomon Peachypizza at shaftnet dot org

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Fedora-Retired-Packages

2020-06-16 Thread Solomon Peachy
ng to be wrong when applied across the board. (Of the dozen-ish Fedora installs I'm responsible for, exactly one would be fine with this new policy. Every other one, workstation and server alike, is a special snowflake. Folks not running snowflake systems don't d

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Fedora-Retired-Packages

2020-06-16 Thread Solomon Peachy
e for packages that will break due to an unmet dependency, but ultimately the user is the only one who can determine if proceeding is okay or not. And to determine that, they need to be suitably informed. - Solomon -- Solomon Peachy

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Fedora-Retired-Packages

2020-06-16 Thread Solomon Peachy
every 'dnf system-upgrade' I've ever done, but also nearly every routine 'dnf update' (kernel packages are added/removed, not "upgraded"). And that's the cmdline view; if folks use the GUI tools (ie most users) only "updated" packages are shown in the details, not stuf

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Fedora-Retired-Packages

2020-06-15 Thread Solomon Peachy
to a separate list on the system-upgrade output would IMO be a much better approach. (Did I miss when Fedora changed their policies to auto-remove applications or libraries simply because they're no longer packaged? The python2->3 debacle notwithstanding...) - Solomon --

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Fedora-Retired-Packages

2020-06-15 Thread Solomon Peachy
quite often over the years, including on the machine I'm using to write this email. Sometimes the correct solution is to remove the old package, but other times that package is in active use. - Solomon -- Solomon Peachypizza at shaftnet dot org (email)

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: CompilerPolicy Change

2020-06-09 Thread Solomon Peachy
to those toolchain upgrades. So why is this "upstream knows best" argument not valid with respect to Fedora forcing mass upgrading to newer versions of GCC (or LLVM, or whatever) and hardening features that expose misbehaviors? - Solomon -- Solomon Peachy

Re: Re-Launching the Java SIG

2020-05-18 Thread Solomon Peachy
you to use anything more recent; you're free to adapt that older source code to your needs, or pay someone else to do it for you. - Solomon -- Solomon Peachypizza at shaftnet dot org (email) @pizza:shaftnet dot org

Re: Re-Launching the Java SIG

2020-05-18 Thread Solomon Peachy
On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 06:03:16PM -0500, Ty Young wrote: > Willing to bet you or anyone else here won't. FYI, this applies to you as well. - Solomon -- Solomon Peachypizza at shaftnet dot org (email) @pizza:shaftnet dot

Re: Re-Launching the Java SIG

2020-05-14 Thread Solomon Peachy
ne in response. I'll follow up on the mostly-unrelated remainder of your reply after I'm back from the doctor. - Solomon -- Solomon Peachypizza at shaftnet dot org (email) @pizza:shaftnet dot org (matrix) High Springs, FL

Re: Re-Launching the Java SIG

2020-05-13 Thread Solomon Peachy
quot;bug" there are ten thousand that created by the upstream authors. Most upstreams are mature enough to recognize this, and consider distribution-level packaging (and front-line user support) efforts to be, on the whole, a net gain. - Solomon -- Solomon Peachy

Re: Re-Launching the Java SIG

2020-05-13 Thread Solomon Peachy
use the official binaries? Because they had a showstopper bug in my environment, and I was trying to devise a fix. (Even absent that bug, the official binaries had extra "features" like proprietary instrumentation/etc libraries that I (and many others) consider unacceptabl

Re: [External] Re: Fedora+Lenovo

2020-05-01 Thread Solomon Peachy
ccidentally take several screenshots every day.. Otherwise it's a great machine to run Fedora on. - Solomon -- Solomon Peachypizza at shaftnet dot org (email) @pizza:shaftnet dot org (matrix) High Springs, FL s

Re: Fedora+Lenovo

2020-04-30 Thread Solomon Peachy
all notebook models have USB wired to the M.2 slot) - Solomon -- Solomon Peachypizza at shaftnet dot org (email) @pizza:shaftnet dot org (matrix) High Springs, FL speachy (freenode) signature.as

Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04

2020-04-06 Thread Solomon Peachy
d of reintegrating the wheel? [3] Given that multiple core requirements were left out of the decision process, what confidence can we have that the full consequences of this decision will be adequately captured, planned, and budgeted for? - Solomon -- Solomon Peachy

Re: Self Introdction: nick black

2020-04-06 Thread Solomon Peachy
On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 08:20:47AM -0400, Nick Black wrote: > hello there in RPM land! i'm a longtime linux user/developer. > my first Linux install was RedHat 5.1 in the summer of 1998, > and i've been Free ever since. Hey hey, it's a small world. :) - Solomon -- Solom

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-01 Thread Solomon Peachy
- Solomon -- Solomon Peachy pizza at shaftnet dot org High Springs, FL ^^ (email/xmpp) ^^ Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur. signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ devel mailing l

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-01 Thread Solomon Peachy
On Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 03:04:57PM +0200, Clement Verna wrote: > What does NIH stands for ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_invented_here - Solomon -- Solomon Peachy pizza at shaftnet dot org High Springs, FL ^^ (email/xmpp) ^^ Quidquid lat

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

2020-03-30 Thread Solomon Peachy
re, and no, whatever went on in a disused lavatory behind a sign that says "beware of leopard" doesn't count. - Solomon -- Solomon Peachy pizza at shaftnet dot org High Springs, FL ^^ (email/xmpp) ^^ Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum

Re: Donate 1 minute of your time to test upgrades from F31 to F32

2020-03-19 Thread Solomon Peachy
On Wed, Mar 04, 2020 at 02:33:02PM -0500, Solomon Peachy wrote: > > * Workstation 3 (a frankenstein beast and a lot of modular errors) > > With 'dnf module reset' this is a lot cleaner. dispcalGUI was snagged > from OBS, so not a fedora problem. Tried to upgrade this works

Re: Donate 1 minute of your time to test upgrades from F31 to F32

2020-03-18 Thread Solomon Peachy
een attempted installs of compat-f32-dejavu-sans-fonts-2.37-7.fc32.noarch and widelands-0-0.76.build20.fc32.x86_64 [...and many many more font conflicts] ...Why is the 'widelands' package bundling fonts? - Solomon - Solomon -- Solomon Peachy pizza at shaftnet dot org H

Re: Donate 1 minute of your time to test upgrades from F31 to F32

2020-03-04 Thread Solomon Peachy
On Wed, Mar 04, 2020 at 02:00:18PM -0500, Solomon Peachy wrote: > * A third server with F30 went kaboom quite spectactularly, > mostly due to python2 stuffs: After a dnf module reset, it went from 29 problems to 27, again mostly python2 related. > * Workstation 1 (which

Re: Donate 1 minute of your time to test upgrades from F31 to F32

2020-03-04 Thread Solomon Peachy
e providers can be installed - enblend-4.2-14.fc31.x86_64 does not belong to a distupgrade repository - coin-or-Cgl-0.60.2-2.fc31.x86_64 does not belong to a distupgrade repository - package scala-2.10.6-17.fc32.noarch is filtered out by modular filtering - Solomon -- Solomo

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Drop Optical Media Release Criterion

2019-12-17 Thread Solomon Peachy
es, and expired CMOS batteries. Relatively hostile environmental conditions don't help. - Solomon -- Solomon Peachy pizza at shaftnet dot org High Springs, FL ^^ (email/xmpp) ^^ Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Drop Optical Media Release Criterion

2019-12-17 Thread Solomon Peachy
costs, and especially reliability of that old equipment is of significant concern. (FWIW, I have Fedora installed on two such systems, and yes, their reliability has taken a significant nosedive..) - Solomon -- Solomon Peachy pizza at shaftnet do

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Drop Optical Media Release Criterion

2019-12-16 Thread Solomon Peachy
a around the lab, but one of my colleagues had an Ubuntu DVD lying around -- with that, I was able to grub2-install the system back to life...) - Solomon -- Solomon Peachy pizza at shaftnet dot org High Springs, FL ^^ (email/xmpp) ^^ Quidquid latine d

Re: RPM Fusion Bugzilla Bug 5307

2019-09-23 Thread Solomon Peachy
ten about emacs, but applies to pretty much all Free Software) Cheers, - Solomon -- Solomon Peachy pizza at shaftnet dot org High Springs, FL ^^ (email/xmpp) ^^ Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur. si

Re: RPM Fusion Bugzilla Bug 5307

2019-09-23 Thread Solomon Peachy
%3A%22157e8ad5f0a597dbf7f9c967dfc889dd%22%3Bs%3A24%3A%22%3D02bj5SbvR2Zul2azNWat92Y%22%3B%7D As the old saying goes, "You catch more flies with honey than vinegar" - Solomon -- Solomon Peachy pizza at shaftnet dot org High Springs, FL ^^ (email/xmpp) ^^ Qu

Re: Donate 1 minute of your time to test upgrades from F30 to F31

2019-09-13 Thread Solomon Peachy
the obvious, but blindly removing packages (and anything that depends on them) is probably not the correct thing to do. - Solomon -- Solomon Peachy pizza at shaftnet dot org High Springs, FL ^^ (email/xmpp) ^^ Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum

Re: Donate 1 minute of your time to test upgrades from F30 to F31

2019-09-11 Thread Solomon Peachy
On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 10:48:51AM -0400, Solomon Peachy wrote: > System 2: (Workstation) Adding in --allowerasing allows the upgrade to proceed: Removing dependent packages: 0ad x86_64 0.0.23b-6.fc30 @fedora 16 M aeskulap x86

Re: Donate 1 minute of your time to test upgrades from F30 to F31

2019-09-11 Thread Solomon Peachy
age perl-libs-4:5.28.2-439.module_f31+6019+b24e098f.x86_64 is excluded - package perl-libs-4:5.28.2-439.module_f31+6050+a462f342.x86_64 is excluded - package perl-libs-4:5.30.0-443.module_f31+5982+3dad29a3.x86_64 is excluded - package perl-libs-4:5.30.0-444.module_f31+5995+50b0547b.x86_64

Re: Fedora 31 System-Wide Change proposal (late): No i686 Repositories

2019-09-09 Thread Solomon Peachy
ting system for laptop and desktop computers, with a complete set of tools for developers and makers of all kinds." Using Fedora (or not) has always been your choice. Good day, - Solomon -- Solomon Peachy pizza at shaftnet dot org High Springs, FL

Re: Fedora 31 System-Wide Change proposal (late): No i686 Repositories

2019-09-09 Thread Solomon Peachy
holding more RAM would pay for itself pretty rapidly. (Unless you don't value your own time or stress levels..) - Solomon -- Solomon Peachy pizza at shaftnet dot org High Springs, FL ^^ (email/xmpp) ^^ Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtu

Re: Fedora 31 System-Wide Change proposal (late): No i686 Repositories

2019-09-09 Thread Solomon Peachy
f like cross-compiling. - Solomon -- Solomon Peachy pizza at shaftnet dot org High Springs, FL ^^ (email/xmpp) ^^ Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur. signature.asc Description: PGP signature _

Re: Fedora 31 System-Wide Change proposal (late): No i686 Repositories

2019-09-09 Thread Solomon Peachy
un afoul of packaging policies, with nobody stepping up to fix them. > Anyway, I'm not expecting that something will change because of that > discussion. It is just bad that the interests of users are of a lower > priority then some purely bureaucratic reasons. I'm sorry you feel tha

Re: Fedora 31 System-Wide Change proposal (late): No i686 Repositories

2019-09-09 Thread Solomon Peachy
the necessary work done. For the better part of two years. - Solomon -- Solomon Peachy pizza at shaftnet dot org High Springs, FL ^^ (email/xmpp) ^^ Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur. signature.asc Descript

Re: Fedora 31 System-Wide Change proposal (late): No i686 Repositories

2019-09-09 Thread Solomon Peachy
so applies to those working on Fedora... - Solomon -- Solomon Peachy pizza at shaftnet dot org High Springs, FL ^^ (email/xmpp) ^^ Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur. signature.asc Descrip

Re: Fedora 31 System-Wide Change proposal (late): No i686 Repositories

2019-09-09 Thread Solomon Peachy
"support" quite differently than Fedora. > P.S. And what it's all supposed to do with "Linux is NOT about > choice"? This looks like just as an excuse to me for some other thing. s/some other/more relevant/ - Solomon -- Solomon Peachy pizza a

Re: Fedora 31 System-Wide Change proposal (late): No i686 Repositories

2019-09-09 Thread Solomon Peachy
ddress Space* is not the same as *Physical Memory*. I suggest you educate yourself on the difference between the two, as that distinction is perhaps the fundamental underpinning of memory management. - Solomon -- Solomon Peachy pizza at shaftnet dot org High

Re: Fedora 31 System-Wide Change proposal (late): No i686 Repositories

2019-09-09 Thread Solomon Peachy
bit doesn't solve any > security issue. All else being equal, it allows ASLR to be considerably more effective. - Solomon -- Solomon Peachy pizza at shaftnet dot org High Springs, FL ^^ (email/xmpp) ^^ Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum

Re: No longer supporting mailing lists:

2019-08-27 Thread Solomon Peachy
that's not going to work for a ten-storey building, much less a skyscraper...) - Solomon -- Solomon Peachy pizza at shaftnet dot org High Springs, FL ^^ (email/xmpp) ^^ Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur. signature.asc Descriptio

Re: Bug 1742953 - No Screensaver/Powerdown after Inactivity at LUKS Password Prompt [FutureFeature]

2019-08-21 Thread Solomon Peachy
ugged in? treat it as a workstation.) (And yes, I know that the only practical difference between a "workstation" and a "server" is the software that's installed/enabled) - Solomon -- Solomon Peachy pizza at shaftnet dot org High Springs, FL

Re: Bug 1742953 - No Screensaver/Powerdown after Inactivity at LUKS Password Prompt [FutureFeature]

2019-08-21 Thread Solomon Peachy
the bag, however, did not fare so well. Melted food (chocolate!) making huge messes, adhesive things that softened and slipped, making unsightly trails of goo, and so forth. Nothing "permanent" but a major PITA nonetheless. - Solomon -- Solomon Peachy pizza a

Re: Bug 1742953 - No Screensaver/Powerdown after Inactivity at LUKS Password Prompt [FutureFeature]

2019-08-20 Thread Solomon Peachy
got inadvertantly powered on and essentially baked itself while sitting at that password prompt. So, yes, powering off is a completely sensible thing to do. - Solomon -- Solomon Peachy pizza at shaftnet dot org High Springs, FL ^^ (email/xmpp) ^^ Quidq

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: x86-64 micro-architecture update

2019-07-23 Thread Solomon Peachy
port both CMPXCHG16B and SSE3. - Solomon -- Solomon Peachy pizza at shaftnet dot org High Springs, FL ^^ (email/xmpp) ^^ Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: x86-64 micro-architecture update

2019-07-23 Thread Solomon Peachy
quired (LAHF/SAHF, CMPXCHG16B, and NX) were only implemented together on SSE3-capable processors. (And Steam's hardware survey shows that a full 100% of their users have an SSE3-capable processor..) - Solomon -- Solomon Peachy pizza at shaftnet dot org High Sprin

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: x86-64 micro-architecture update

2019-07-22 Thread Solomon Peachy
3 (vs 88.6% for AVX..) On the AMD side, requiring SSSE3 is nearly equivalent to requiring AVX, in other words, post-2011 CPUs only. Now *SS*E3 is another matter, as only the 1st-gen single-core K8 parts lack support, and every Intel x86_64-capable CPU supports it. - Solomon -- Solomon

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: x86-64 micro-architecture update

2019-07-22 Thread Solomon Peachy
ally since they'd already rebuilt Fedora with the new flags... - Solomon -- Solomon Peachy pizza at shaftnet dot org High Springs, FL ^^ (email/xmpp) ^^ Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur. signatu

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: x86-64 micro-architecture update

2019-07-22 Thread Solomon Peachy
whole new > architecture that would just happen to be largely compatible with > x86_64. Now that approach makes a lot more sense! And we could easily do some apples-to-apples system benchmarks to see if there's any meaningful improvements to be had. - Solomon -- Solomon Peachy

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: x86-64 micro-architecture update

2019-07-22 Thread Solomon Peachy
VX2. - Solomon -- Solomon Peachy pizza at shaftnet dot org High Springs, FL ^^ (email/xmpp) ^^ Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur. signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ devel maili

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: x86-64 micro-architecture update

2019-07-22 Thread Solomon Peachy
that can execute AVX2 instructions. Yeah, "they just have to upgrade their systems". - Solomon -- Solomon Peachy pizza at shaftnet dot org High Springs, FL ^^ (email/xmpp) ^^ Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

2018-10-18 Thread Solomon Peachy
uot;, if not a tool to foster discussion and communication between multiple people? - Solomon -- Solomon Peachy pizza at shaftnet dot org Coconut Creek, FL ^^ (email/xmpp) ^^ Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur. signature.asc Descrip

Re: dokuwiki packagers unresponsive

2018-08-27 Thread Solomon Peachy
age of those security vulnerabilities. It's perhaps the only upside of a package that can serve nothing more than 'Error 500' codes. - Solomon -- Solomon Peachy pizza at shaftnet dot org Coconut Creek, FL ^^ (email/xmpp) ^^ Quidquid latin

Re: dokuwiki packagers unresponsive

2018-07-26 Thread Solomon Peachy
ot;some issues" is a euphamism for "the package has been fundamentally broken since Fedora 24." https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1372948 - Solomon -- Solomon Peachy pizza at shaftnet dot org Coconut Creek, FL ^^ (email/xmpp)

Re: Firefox "Looking Glass" fiasco

2017-12-22 Thread Solomon Peachy
ay they want." Especially since Fedora's maintainers *already* compile it, including changing some of the defaults. What's a couple more? (And I might add that yanking Firefox as the default browser will accomplish little more than to increase Chrome's market share) - Solomon

Re: Firefox "Looking Glass" fiasco

2017-12-20 Thread Solomon Peachy
e is a ginormous difference between not being able to legally ship something and deliberately not shipping perhaps _the_ premium Free Software application because you don't agree with every action of its authors. - Solomon -- Solomon Peachy pizza at shaftnet dot org C

Re: CUPS will change license since 2.3 version - now incompatible with GPLv2

2017-11-09 Thread Solomon Peachy
ause that's the problem we're actually facing here... - Solomon -- Solomon Peachy pizza at shaftnet dot org Coconut Creek, FL ^^ (email/xmpp) ^^ Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur. signature.asc Description: PGP signature __

Re: CUPS will change license since 2.3 version - now incompatible with GPLv2

2017-11-08 Thread Solomon Peachy
throws a wrench into some future plans. Discussions are ongoing) - Solomon -- Solomon Peachy pizza at shaftnet dot org Coconut Creek, FL ^^ (email/xmpp) ^^ Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur. signature.asc Description: PGP sig

Re: CUPS will change license since 2.3 version - now incompatible with GPLv2

2017-11-08 Thread Solomon Peachy
I've bumped this over to the legal mailing list [1]. We'll see what their far more knowledgable heads have to say. [1] https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/le...@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/TYGLR34XR6L6MAXMVSDNYT3ZYXUKY7FX/ - Solomon -- Solomon Peachy pizza at sha

Re: CUPS will change license since 2.3 version - now incompatible with GPLv2

2017-11-08 Thread Solomon Peachy
make such a change). Agreed, but even if the CUPS authors are personally in favor of this I suspect that it will never happen, given Apple's heavy anti-GPL bias. - Solomon -- Solomon Peachy pizza at shaftnet dot org Coconut Creek, FL ^^

Re: CUPS will change license since 2.3 version - now incompatible with GPLv2

2017-11-08 Thread Solomon Peachy
On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 08:51:22AM -0500, Solomon Peachy wrote: > The gutenprint CUPS filters in my dev tree dynamically pull in 41 shared > libraries, mostly as passthroughs. I'm auditing them now. FWIW, everything that gutenprint links against, and everything they pull in, a

Re: CUPS will change license since 2.3 version - now incompatible with GPLv2

2017-11-08 Thread Solomon Peachy
" exception in the GPL 2. And existing GPL-2-only software that *does* statically link/copy CUPS code can continue to do so with CUPS 2.2.x and earlier. [1] https://lists.cups.org/pipermail/cups-devel/2017-November/017088.html - Solomon -- Solomon Peachy pizza at

Re: CUPS will change license since 2.3 version - now incompatible with GPLv2

2017-11-08 Thread Solomon Peachy
them now. Meanwhile, I've raised this concern on the Gutenprint mailing list and we'll see how the conversation goes. - Solomon [Heavily involved with Gutenprint BTW] -- Solomon Peachy pizza at shaftnet dot org Coconut Creek, FL ^^ (email/xmpp) ^^

Re: CUPS will change license since 2.3 version - now incompatible with GPLv2

2017-11-08 Thread Solomon Peachy
ly. OTOH, Gutenprint is GPLv2+, so it could be considered GPLv3 for purposes of linking to ASL2.0 CUPS.. - Solomon -- Solomon Peachy pizza at shaftnet dot org Coconut Creek, FL ^^ (email/xmpp) ^^ Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur. sign

Re: plan to update F27 to systemd-235

2017-10-09 Thread Solomon Peachy
nnection loading. - Solomon -- Solomon Peachy pizza at shaftnet dot org Coconut Creek, FL ^^ (email/xmpp) ^^ Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur. signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ devel maili

Re: plan to update F27 to systemd-235

2017-10-09 Thread Solomon Peachy
2 I stand corrected. [1] https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/3211 https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/3753 - Solomon -- Solomon Peachy pizza at shaftnet dot org Coconut Creek, FL ^^ (email/xmpp) ^^ Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum vide

Re: plan to update F27 to systemd-235

2017-10-09 Thread Solomon Peachy
beef with the folks who wrote the mysql systemd unit file(s) and/or its packagers, not systemd itself. Especially as MySQL isn't distributed by Fedora nor does a unit file for MySQL come with the upstream (or Fedora) systemd releases. - Solomon -- Solomon Peachy

Re: BTRFS dropped by RedHat

2017-08-04 Thread Solomon Peachy
her hardware failures, and I was also just sticking to basic "give me a simple filesystem" feature set. - Solomon -- Solomon Peachy pizza at shaftnet dot org Delray Beach, FL ^^ (email/xmpp) ^^ Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur.

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

2017-07-12 Thread Solomon Peachy
in hardware generations being discussed here!) - Solomon -- Solomon Peachy pizza at shaftnet dot org Delray Beach, FL ^^ (email/xmpp) ^^ Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur. signature.asc Description: PGP signature _

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

2017-07-11 Thread Solomon Peachy
ntion javascript engines that are an order of magnitude faster than the ones of a decade ago. Modern web sites require those capabilities and the greatly increased system resources (CPU, GPU, and Memory) those entail. - Solomon -- Solomon Peachy pizza at shaftnet

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

2017-07-11 Thread Solomon Peachy
hose i686 users are doing so on hardware that lacks x86_64 capabilities. - Solomon -- Solomon Peachy pizza at shaftnet dot org Delray Beach, FL ^^ (email/xmpp) ^^ Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur. signature.asc Description: PGP

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