On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 4:53 AM Benjamin Berg wrote:
> On Wed, 2020-07-01 at 11:07 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> > So the last two times thermald was proposed (first as a F32 change
> > proposal, then more recently to the Workstation WG) it was rejected on
> > the grounds that it was not
On Wed, Jul 01, 2020 at 10:36:59AM +0200, Benjamin Berg wrote:
> On Tue, 2020-06-30 at 17:48 +0200, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote:
> > On 30.06.2020 15:25, Ben Cotton wrote:
> > > Better thermal management and peak performance on Intel CPUs by
> > > including thermald in the default install.
> >
On Wed, 2020-07-01 at 11:07 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> So the last two times thermald was proposed (first as a F32 change
> proposal, then more recently to the Workstation WG) it was rejected on
> the grounds that it was not useful without dptfxtract installed. Now
> it's clear that
On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 5:49 pm, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
wrote:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/D4FVY3LLMNGUKNUOEIDXNOOAD577W5XN/
None of the comments in that thread support the claim that we cannot
ship configuration files generated by
So the last two times thermald was proposed (first as a F32 change
proposal, then more recently to the Workstation WG) it was rejected on
the grounds that it was not useful without dptfxtract installed. Now
it's clear that everybody was mistaken about that, so seems it makes
sense to
On 30.06.2020 22:38, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> Any references would be very interesting, thanks.
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/D4FVY3LLMNGUKNUOEIDXNOOAD577W5XN/
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Sincerely,
Vitaly Zaitsev (vit...@easycoding.org)
On 01/07/2020 11:53, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 10:30:21AM -0400, Owen Taylor wrote:
So, this was discussed quite a bit in
https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/71 and the conclusion that
the Workstatopn Working Group came to 3 months ago was that we didn't
want to
On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 10:30:21AM -0400, Owen Taylor wrote:
> So, this was discussed quite a bit in
> https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/71 and the conclusion that
> the Workstatopn Working Group came to 3 months ago was that we didn't
> want to do this. We basically understood that main
On Tue, 2020-06-30 at 17:48 +0200, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote:
> On 30.06.2020 15:25, Ben Cotton wrote:
> > Better thermal management and peak performance on Intel CPUs by
> > including thermald in the default install.
>
> Good, but thermald is absolutely useless without configs. Configs can
On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 9:40 pm, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
wrote:
The legal status of the extracted tables was discussed a few months
ago
with members of the Fedora legal team. You can check archives.
I tried:
On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 at 16:14, Jared Dominguez wrote:
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 3:41 PM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
> wrote:
>>
>> On 30.06.2020 19:43, Hans de Goede wrote:
>> > That is the first time I have heard that. Do you have a source for that ?
>>
>> https://github.com/intel/dptfxtract
On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 3:41 PM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel <
devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> On 30.06.2020 19:43, Hans de Goede wrote:
> > That is the first time I have heard that. Do you have a source for that ?
>
> https://github.com/intel/dptfxtract - no sources, only proprietary
>
On 30.06.2020 19:43, Hans de Goede wrote:
> That is the first time I have heard that. Do you have a source for that ?
https://github.com/intel/dptfxtract - no sources, only proprietary binaries.
The legal status of the extracted tables was discussed a few months ago
with members of the Fedora
Hi,
On 6/30/20 5:48 PM, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote:
On 30.06.2020 15:25, Ben Cotton wrote:
Better thermal management and peak performance on Intel CPUs by
including thermald in the default install.
Good, but thermald is absolutely useless without configs. Configs can be
extracted from
On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 12:10 PM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel <
devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> On 30.06.2020 17:57, Jared Dominguez wrote:
> > Something that needs to be cleared up here: thermald has existed for the
> > better part of a decade and long before dptfxtract existed.
>
> Thermald
On 30.06.2020 17:57, Jared Dominguez wrote:
> Something that needs to be cleared up here: thermald has existed for the
> better part of a decade and long before dptfxtract existed.
Thermald will not work without config being installed.
You can remove all configs from /etc/thermald and try to
On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 11:49 AM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel <
devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> On 30.06.2020 15:25, Ben Cotton wrote:
> > Better thermal management and peak performance on Intel CPUs by
> > including thermald in the default install.
>
> Good, but thermald is absolutely
On 30.06.2020 15:25, Ben Cotton wrote:
> Better thermal management and peak performance on Intel CPUs by
> including thermald in the default install.
Good, but thermald is absolutely useless without configs. Configs can be
extracted from DPTF ACPI tables only with *proprietary* dptfextract
So, this was discussed quite a bit in
https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/71 and the conclusion that
the Workstatopn Working Group came to 3 months ago was that we didn't
want to do this. We basically understood that main way of using
thermald was to use the proprietary dptfxtract tool to
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On Tue, 2020-06-30 at 09:25 -0400, Ben Cotton wrote:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ThermalManagementWS
>
> == Summary ==
> Better thermal management and peak performance on Intel CPUs by
> including
> thermald in the default install.
I
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