Re: /usr/lib/debug ownership

2013-02-17 Thread Alec Leamas
On 02/16/2013 05:16 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 13:47:13 +0200 Panu Matilainen pmati...@laiskiainen.org wrote: I think Kevin was talking about normal, ie non-debuginfo packages like the example case of nacl-devel owning /usr/lib/debug, which indeed is a (trivial) packaging bug.

Re: /usr/lib/debug ownership

2013-02-16 Thread Alec Leamas
On 02/15/2013 11:58 PM, Till Maas wrote: On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:50:28AM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: - make a script to identify all the packages that are broken and shipping debug stuff. AT least for the directory a simple yum call should suffice: yum --disablerepo '*' --enablerepo

Re: /usr/lib/debug ownership

2013-02-16 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 10:44:27 +0100, Alec Leamas wrote: On 02/15/2013 11:58 PM, Till Maas wrote: On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:50:28AM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: - make a script to identify all the packages that are broken and shipping debug stuff. AT least for the directory a simple yum

Re: /usr/lib/debug ownership

2013-02-16 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 02/16/2013 11:44 AM, Alec Leamas wrote: On 02/15/2013 11:58 PM, Till Maas wrote: On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:50:28AM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: - make a script to identify all the packages that are broken and shipping debug stuff. AT least for the directory a simple yum call should

Re: /usr/lib/debug ownership

2013-02-16 Thread Alec Leamas
On 02/15/2013 09:47 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 13:03:50 +0100, Alec Leamas wrote: On 02/14/2013 11:19 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 16:36:03 +0100, Alec Leamas wrote: Running some automated tests I stumble over the debug directories. E. g., $

Re: /usr/lib/debug ownership

2013-02-16 Thread Alec Leamas
On 02/16/2013 11:41 AM, Panu Matilainen wrote: On 02/16/2013 11:44 AM, Alec Leamas wrote: On 02/15/2013 11:58 PM, Till Maas wrote: On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:50:28AM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: - make a script to identify all the packages that are broken and shipping debug stuff. AT least

Re: /usr/lib/debug ownership

2013-02-16 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 11:59:08 +0100, Alec Leamas wrote: According to Kevin, this is a bug and should be fixed by having filesystem to own /usr/lib/debug (like /usr/src/debug), and also having packages only to own their own directories. Are saying that the current ownership is OK?

Re: /usr/lib/debug ownership

2013-02-16 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 02/16/2013 01:33 PM, Alec Leamas wrote: On 02/16/2013 11:41 AM, Panu Matilainen wrote: On 02/16/2013 11:44 AM, Alec Leamas wrote: On 02/15/2013 11:58 PM, Till Maas wrote: On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:50:28AM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: - make a script to identify all the packages that are

Re: /usr/lib/debug ownership

2013-02-16 Thread Alec Leamas
On 02/16/2013 12:41 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 11:59:08 +0100, Alec Leamas wrote: According to Kevin, this is a bug and should be fixed by having filesystem to own /usr/lib/debug (like /usr/src/debug), and also having packages only to own their own directories. Are saying

Re: /usr/lib/debug ownership

2013-02-16 Thread Alec Leamas
On 02/16/2013 12:47 PM, Panu Matilainen wrote: On 02/16/2013 01:33 PM, Alec Leamas wrote: On 02/16/2013 11:41 AM, Panu Matilainen wrote: On 02/16/2013 11:44 AM, Alec Leamas wrote: On 02/15/2013 11:58 PM, Till Maas wrote: On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:50:28AM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: - make a

Re: /usr/lib/debug ownership

2013-02-16 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 02/16/2013 04:01 PM, Alec Leamas wrote: On 02/16/2013 12:47 PM, Panu Matilainen wrote: On 02/16/2013 01:33 PM, Alec Leamas wrote: On 02/16/2013 11:41 AM, Panu Matilainen wrote: On 02/16/2013 11:44 AM, Alec Leamas wrote: On 02/15/2013 11:58 PM, Till Maas wrote: On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at

Re: /usr/lib/debug ownership

2013-02-16 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 15:01:32 +0100, Alec Leamas wrote: Well, isn't the rule is actually simpler than that: any package owning a directory owned by another package is broken. It used to be like that, but nowadays the guidelines aren't that strict anymore. See multiple ownership here:

Re: /usr/lib/debug ownership

2013-02-16 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 13:47:13 +0200 Panu Matilainen pmati...@laiskiainen.org wrote: I think Kevin was talking about normal, ie non-debuginfo packages like the example case of nacl-devel owning /usr/lib/debug, which indeed is a (trivial) packaging bug. Except perhaps for the filesystem package

Re: /usr/lib/debug ownership

2013-02-15 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 20:33:46 +0100, Alec Leamas wrote: PS. Yes, I repeat this message. Looks like it wasn't sent somehow :( As I had replied to the earlier message ;) here just a mention that I've reported the mispackaged nacl-devel: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/911405 -- Fedora release 19

Re: /usr/lib/debug ownership

2013-02-15 Thread Alec Leamas
On 02/14/2013 11:19 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 16:36:03 +0100, Alec Leamas wrote: Running some automated tests I stumble over the debug directories. E. g., $ repoquery -qf /usr/lib/debug shows 45 owners on current F18. Other directories under /usr/lib/debug have a

Re: /usr/lib/debug ownership

2013-02-15 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 11:15:40 +0100 Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 20:33:46 +0100, Alec Leamas wrote: PS. Yes, I repeat this message. Looks like it wasn't sent somehow :( As I had replied to the earlier message ;) here just a mention that I've reported the

Re: /usr/lib/debug ownership

2013-02-15 Thread Till Maas
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 01:03:50PM +0100, Alec Leamas wrote: Thanks for reply... Still, I'm puzzled about 45 packages owning /usr/lib/debug, none of them the filesystem package. This looks weird, although I don't grasp the consequences (if any). A normal review rule says that a package

Re: /usr/lib/debug ownership

2013-02-15 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 13:03:50 +0100, Alec Leamas wrote: On 02/14/2013 11:19 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 16:36:03 +0100, Alec Leamas wrote: Running some automated tests I stumble over the debug directories. E. g., $ repoquery -qf /usr/lib/debug shows 45 owners on

Re: /usr/lib/debug ownership

2013-02-15 Thread Till Maas
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:50:28AM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: - make a script to identify all the packages that are broken and shipping debug stuff. AT least for the directory a simple yum call should suffice: yum --disablerepo '*' --enablerepo fedora\* whatprovides /usr/lib/debug But it

/usr/lib/debug ownership

2013-02-14 Thread Alec Leamas
Running some automated tests I stumble over the debug directories. E. g., $ repoquery -qf /usr/lib/debug shows 45 owners on current F18. Other directories under /usr/lib/debug have a similar situation with many owners.. I note that /usr/src/debug is owned by filesystem, but filesystem does

/usr/lib/debug ownership

2013-02-14 Thread Alec Leamas
Running some automated tests I stumble over the debug directories. E. g., $ repoquery -qf /usr/lib/debug shows 45 owners on current F18. Other directories under /usr/lib/debug have a similar situation with many owners.. I note that /usr/src/debug is owned by filesystem, but filesystem does

Re: /usr/lib/debug ownership

2013-02-14 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 16:36:03 +0100, Alec Leamas wrote: Running some automated tests I stumble over the debug directories. E. g., $ repoquery -qf /usr/lib/debug shows 45 owners on current F18. Other directories under /usr/lib/debug have a similar situation with many owners.. I note