appdata questions

2014-08-20 Thread Karel Volný
Hi. I have a few concerns about AppData that don't seem to be covered elsewhere, or at least I haven't found the answers - not counting Richard's talk[1], as I gave up after five minutes, because I just couldn't get used to the accent ... sorry, I'm not native speaker, this was just too

Re: appdata questions

2014-08-20 Thread Richard Hughes
On 20 August 2014 14:42, Karel Volný kvo...@redhat.com wrote: 1) Why not to take the information from the .desktop file by default and use appdata.xml only if the author/packager wants to provide additional information that cannot be in the .desktop file? That's what we do. Some data can't go

Re: appdata questions

2014-08-20 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, 2014-08-20 at 15:42 +0200, Karel Volný wrote: why do we penalize users by hiding contents from them when some upstream just doesn't care about this stuff? (see also comment 7 about the unjust burden)? To clarify, the goal is not to penalize users: quite the opposite. We want

Re: AppData questions

2013-11-08 Thread Richard Hughes
On 8 November 2013 01:04, Rex Dieter rdie...@math.unl.edu wrote: which claims to be a (the?) tool to create some necessary database, how does this fit in (if at all)? As I understand it, it's a libappstream-kind-thing that takes the xml files as inputs and exposes a GObject API. gnome-software

Re: AppData questions

2013-11-08 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 7 Nov 2013 13:04:39 +, Richard Hughes wrote: $ file screenshot-soundconverter.png screenshot-soundconverter.png: PNG image data, 502 x 534, 8-bit/color RGBA, non-interlaced ScreenshotSizeWidthMin=624 ScreenshotSizeHeightMin=351 503 is smaller than 624 and the screenshot

Re: AppData questions

2013-11-07 Thread Tim Lauridsen
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 8:43 PM, Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.com wrote: On 6 November 2013 10:41, Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com wrote: # rpm -qf /usr/share/app-info/xmls/fedora-20.xml.gz gnome-software-3.10.3-1.fc20.x86_64 does. It's AppStream metadata. Whould it not be a

Re: AppData questions

2013-11-07 Thread Richard Hughes
On 6 November 2013 23:12, Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com wrote: $ file screenshot-soundconverter.png screenshot-soundconverter.png: PNG image data, 502 x 534, 8-bit/color RGBA, non-interlaced ScreenshotSizeWidthMin=624 ScreenshotSizeHeightMin=351 503 is smaller than 624 and the

Re: AppData questions

2013-11-07 Thread Richard Hughes
On 7 November 2013 08:34, Tim Lauridsen tim.laurid...@gmail.com wrote: Whould it not be a good idea to have it in a separate package, such kind of metadata should not be included with the application package IMHO The plan is to ship this with the other metadata (and downloaded by dnf/yum) long

Re: AppData questions

2013-11-07 Thread Felix Kaechele
Richard Hughes wrote: It's not mandatory, but highly reccomended. See http://people.freedesktop.org/~hughsient/appdata/#screenshots for details. A little off-topic but I was wondering: The spec states Screenshots should be taken with US English as the display language.. However the spec also

Re: AppData questions

2013-11-07 Thread Richard Hughes
On 7 November 2013 13:36, Felix Kaechele fe...@fetzig.org wrote: A little off-topic but I was wondering: The spec states Screenshots should be taken with US English as the display language.. You can actually localize the screenshots if you want; I don't know of any project that wants to do

Re: AppData questions

2013-11-07 Thread Rex Dieter
Richard Hughes wrote: On 6 November 2013 10:41, Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com wrote: # rpm -qf /usr/share/app-info/xmls/fedora-20.xml.gz gnome-software-3.10.3-1.fc20.x86_64 does. It's AppStream metadata. Similarly, in order to make apper/kde work, it needs appstream,

AppData questions

2013-11-06 Thread Michael Schwendt
I'm trying to follow what's happening related to gnome-software and the .appdata.xml files. There is a growing number of mails, but I cannot find any message that points out what the file # rpm -qf /usr/share/app-info/xmls/fedora-20.xml.gz gnome-software-3.10.3-1.fc20.x86_64 does. For

Re: AppData questions

2013-11-06 Thread Richard Hughes
On 6 November 2013 10:41, Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com wrote: # rpm -qf /usr/share/app-info/xmls/fedora-20.xml.gz gnome-software-3.10.3-1.fc20.x86_64 does. It's AppStream metadata. For Audacious it specifies several details, such as an icon included in the gnome-software package

Re: AppData questions

2013-11-06 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 6 Nov 2013 19:43:25 +, Richard Hughes wrote: What is the recommended procedure to test new .appdata.xml files? Install them to /usr/share/appdata/ -- i've not tested this with Fedora 20, but I know it works if you're using the rawhide package. Yes, with Rawhide it works and