Re: Bugzilla signal/noise ratio

2020-03-23 Thread stan via devel
On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 10:13:05 -0700 Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 03:35:11PM +0100, Dominik 'Rathann' > Mierzejewski wrote: > > On Monday, 23 March 2020 at 12:10, Daniel Pocock wrote: > > [...] > > > The bottom line is that these tools need to support our > > > workflows, not try

Re: Bugzilla signal/noise ratio

2020-03-23 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 23/03/2020 15:35, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > On Monday, 23 March 2020 at 12:10, Daniel Pocock wrote: > [...] >> The bottom line is that these tools need to support our workflows, not >> try to shoehorn us into a particular way of working. > > Just writing an e-mail about the

Re: Bugzilla signal/noise ratio

2020-03-23 Thread Paul Howarth
On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 10:13:05 -0700 Kevin Fenzi wrote: > There are a few things that also send emails on their own. > Sadly, bodhi still does this (even though it should not) Actually I'm not sad about this; I find the emails from bodhi considerably more informative than their fedmsg equivalents

Re: Bugzilla signal/noise ratio

2020-03-23 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 03:35:11PM +0100, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > On Monday, 23 March 2020 at 12:10, Daniel Pocock wrote: > [...] > > The bottom line is that these tools need to support our workflows, not > > try to shoehorn us into a particular way of working. > > Just writing an

Re: Bugzilla signal/noise ratio

2020-03-23 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
On Monday, 23 March 2020 at 12:10, Daniel Pocock wrote: [...] > The bottom line is that these tools need to support our workflows, not > try to shoehorn us into a particular way of working. Just writing an e-mail about the issue to the Fedora devel list will not change anything, maybe apart from

Re: Bugzilla signal/noise ratio

2020-03-23 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 22/03/2020 18:15, Marius Schwarz wrote: > Hi all, > > Am 22.03.20 um 14:19 schrieb Emmanuel Seyman: >> I feel you've proved the opposite: filing bugs alone isn't sufficient and, >> apparently, neither is sending out periodic reminders by mail. Perhaps we >> need to be more agressive in

Re: Bugzilla signal/noise ratio

2020-03-22 Thread Marius Schwarz
Hi all, Am 22.03.20 um 14:19 schrieb Emmanuel Seyman: > I feel you've proved the opposite: filing bugs alone isn't sufficient and, > apparently, neither is sending out periodic reminders by mail. Perhaps we > need to be more agressive in encouraging people to find co-maintainers > that can help

Re: Bugzilla signal/noise ratio

2020-03-22 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Daniel Pocock [20/03/2020 13:22] : > > > Over how many bugs and what time period were the requests generated? > > More than a year This is the core of your problem. Not responding to outstanding requests in a timely manner is a sure way to get more reminders. I suspect responding to these in a

Re: Bugzilla signal/noise ratio

2020-03-20 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2020-03-20 at 11:42 -0400, Paul Dufresne via devel wrote: > > Closing a bug doesn't clear the needinfo. Change the ? to blank under > > flags (or I'm happy to clear it for you if you'd like). > Ok, I have done it. > > But I believe the outstanding bugs reminder should not include

Re: Bugzilla signal/noise ratio

2020-03-20 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2020-03-20 at 11:02 -0400, Paul Dufresne via devel wrote: > About outstanding bugs... > > In my opinion, the frequency at which it is sent: every day, is way too often. > For me, once a month would make more sense. > Maybe... maybe once a week. > > For me, the message contains this is a

Re: Bugzilla signal/noise ratio

2020-03-20 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 20/03/2020 13:30, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 20. 03. 20 13:22, Daniel Pocock wrote: >> More than a year > > I my humble opinion, if you ignore outstanding Bugzillas for over a > year, you cannot be surprised you have hundreds of remainders in your > inbox. Please remember I've given this

Re: Bugzilla signal/noise ratio

2020-03-20 Thread Gary Buhrmaster
On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 3:20 PM Rob Crittenden wrote: > Closing a bug doesn't clear the needinfo. I consider that a mis-feature, but I have learned to live with it. > As a package owner I like the daily reminder. If it only happened > monthly then bad timing could make it so I miss a reminder

Re: Bugzilla signal/noise ratio

2020-03-20 Thread Paul Dufresne via devel
> Closing a bug doesn't clear the needinfo. Change the ? to blank under > flags (or I'm happy to clear it for you if you'd like). Ok, I have done it. But I believe the outstanding bugs reminder should not include closed bugs! ___ devel mailing list

Re: Bugzilla signal/noise ratio

2020-03-20 Thread Rob Crittenden
Paul Dufresne via devel wrote: > About outstanding bugs... > > In my opinion, the frequency at which it is sent: every day, is way too often. > For me, once a month would make more sense. > Maybe... maybe once a week. > > For me, the message contains this is a one bug: >

Re: Bugzilla signal/noise ratio

2020-03-20 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 20. 03. 20 16:02, Paul Dufresne via devel wrote: About outstanding bugs... In my opinion, the frequency at which it is sent: every day, is way too often. For me, once a month would make more sense. Maybe... maybe once a week. Once a day is indeed too much. It used to be once a week. For

Re: Bugzilla signal/noise ratio

2020-03-20 Thread Paul Dufresne via devel
About outstanding bugs... In my opinion, the frequency at which it is sent: every day, is way too often. For me, once a month would make more sense. Maybe... maybe once a week. For me, the message contains this is a one bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1700171 For most of the

Re: Bugzilla signal/noise ratio

2020-03-20 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 20. 03. 20 13:22, Daniel Pocock wrote: More than a year I my humble opinion, if you ignore outstanding Bugzillas for over a year, you cannot be surprised you have hundreds of remainders in your inbox. -- Miro Hrončok -- Phone: +420777974800 IRC: mhroncok

Re: Bugzilla signal/noise ratio

2020-03-20 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 20/03/2020 13:19, Emmanuel Seyman wrote: > > Hi, Daniel. > > * Daniel Pocock [20/03/2020 12:38] : >> >> - there were over 100 "outstanding requests" emails in my inbox > > Over how many bugs and what time period were the requests generated? More than a year >> - there are numerous bugs

Re: Bugzilla signal/noise ratio

2020-03-20 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
Hi, Daniel. * Daniel Pocock [20/03/2020 12:38] : > > - there were over 100 "outstanding requests" emails in my inbox Over how many bugs and what time period were the requests generated? > - there are numerous bugs about builds failing, FTBFS These bugs are signal and not noise. Not only are

Bugzilla signal/noise ratio

2020-03-20 Thread Daniel Pocock
I've been looking at email from Bugzilla to try and find out what I need to know preparing the upstream release of reSIProcate I feel the signal/noise ratio is disturbing and it also means I am less likely to open Bugzilla emails In particular, - there were over 100 "outstanding requests"