Define future of Fedora (was: Re: FESCo and Env and Stacks WG upcoming elections nominations are open)

[Honza Horak]

There are not many guys interested in the Environment  Stacks WG on the 
nomination page [2] so far, which is really shame. Don't loose your 
chance to help moving Fedora forward!


The main goal of this working group is to research and develop new or 
improved methods of developing, testing, packaging and deploying 
software for the Fedora community. For more concrete picture of our 
focus, see the tasklist [3].


We might have struggled with not much real stuff done so far, but we 
really need more people interested in discussions and also getting hands 
dirty by hacking some proof-of-concept solutions, patches for existing 
systems/tools and generally enjoying a lot of fun.


Challenging tasks often have quite unclear specification, so some level 
of own imagination and creativity is more than welcome, but being a 
member of the working group is great opportunity to have *big impact on 
the future look of Fedora*.


Please, consider and add your nomination before 23:59:59 UTC on January 
19, 2015!


[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Env_and_Stacks
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Env_and_Stacks/Nominations
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Env_and_Stacks/Tasklist

Honza

On 01/13/2015 10:37 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:

Hello everyone!
The nomination period for FESCo and Environments and Stacks Working
Group Elections is now open.

We will be selecting five seats on FESCo [1] and four seats on Env and
Stacks Working Group [2]. If you are interested in these roles, please
add yourself to the lists of nominees at [1] and [2] before 23:59:59
UTC on January 19, 2015!  If you wish to nominate someone else, please
consult with that person ahead of time. If you know someone who would
be a good candidate, now is a great time to make sure they're thinking
about it.


And missing links I promised :).

[1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Development/SteeringCommittee/Nominations
[2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Env_and_Stacks/Nominations

Main elections page is at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections

Jaroslav
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Re: Define future of Fedora (was: Re: FESCo and Env and Stacks WG upcoming elections nominations are open)

[Stephen John Smoogen]

On 16 January 2015 at 02:49, Honza Horak hho...@redhat.com wrote:

 There are not many guys interested in the Environment  Stacks WG on the
 nomination page [2] so far, which is really shame. Don't loose your chance
 to help moving Fedora forward!

 The main goal of this working group is to research and develop new or
 improved methods of developing, testing, packaging and deploying software
 for the Fedora community. For more concrete picture of our focus, see the
 tasklist [3].

 We might have struggled with not much real stuff done so far, but we
 really need more people interested in discussions and also getting hands
 dirty by hacking some proof-of-concept solutions, patches for existing
 systems/tools and generally enjoying a lot of fun.

 Challenging tasks often have quite unclear specification, so some level of
 own imagination and creativity is more than welcome, but being a member of
 the working group is great opportunity to have *big impact on the future
 look of Fedora*.


OK I think one of the problems is that this doesn't look like it is a doing
group but a talking group. By a talking group I mean that the first page
comes across as We are going to have a lot of meetings to bike shed about
what we would like to see happen. We actually don't do any of that.. we
just point the direction for others to go. or worse yet The 5 year plan
for growth and production will be produced by the committee in charge of 5
year plans.

For many of the people I know, that is what FPC and FESCO are already doing
[even if it isn't.] It is also not something they want to be part of..
(more meetings versus more doings.)

Since I very much doubt that any of these characteristics I listed above
are actually what the group is trying to do... I think the committee needs
to better explain what it is going to do, how it is going to do it, etc.

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