Re: Desktop racing problem in F20

2014-03-28 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 28 March 2014 10:47, Pete Zaitcev zait...@redhat.com wrote:

 Dear Fedorians:

 Recently, I was hitting a number of odd behaviours that look like races.
 Filed a couple of bugs:

  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1082092
  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1082095

 But this feels unsatisfactory, because reproducibility is extremely
 low for all cases. Bugs aren't going to cut it.

 So, I'm wondering if anyone has an idea where to dig.

 Here's what I recall seeing:

  - The audio volume applet does not always react to plugging headphones.
Re-plug and it goes away.

  - Screensaver forgetting to blank. Move cursor and problem disappears.

  - Applications may not map on screen on start. Click on activity again
usually fixes the problem.


Well I have seen all of these in the last 2 weeks on Fedora 19 so I am not
sure what exactly is going on.  The audio seems to have started with the
3.13 series but I am not exactly sure. The screensaver has happened on and
off and as you said it is racy. The applications happens every now and
then.. what is even funnier is that the application is running but doesn't
seem to be mapped anywhere. Not sure how to better debug any of these
issues to help figure out what is going on.


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Desktop racing problem in F20

2014-03-28 Thread Pete Zaitcev
Dear Fedorians:

Recently, I was hitting a number of odd behaviours that look like races.
Filed a couple of bugs:

 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1082092
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1082095

But this feels unsatisfactory, because reproducibility is extremely
low for all cases. Bugs aren't going to cut it.

So, I'm wondering if anyone has an idea where to dig.

Here's what I recall seeing:

 - The audio volume applet does not always react to plugging headphones.
   Re-plug and it goes away.

 - Screensaver forgetting to blank. Move cursor and problem disappears.

 - Applications may not map on screen on start. Click on activity again
   usually fixes the problem.

I think there were more, I just can't remember them all.

In each instance it's easy to blame firmware, kernel, whatever. But
there are several. If RAM was bad, I imagine I'd see crashes. But no,
system is stable. Also, F19 worked fine.

Of course it's most difficult to find a black cat in dark room when
it is not in the room, so I'm wondering if I'm seeing things. If anyone
else is seeing a sudden onset of racing behaviours after upgrade to F20,
please let me know.

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Re: Desktop racing problem in F20

2014-03-28 Thread Pete Zaitcev
On Fri, 28 Mar 2014 10:53:23 -0600
Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well I have seen all of these in the last 2 weeks on Fedora 19 so I am not
 sure what exactly is going on.

Thanks for sharing. Perhaps some bad updates went in?

If we only see the 3 areas, it may be 3 unrelated bugs. I just asked
in case there are 10 races.

Did you file any bugs? I'll be happy to dedup.

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