Re: Educating packagers about always making changes in devel / rawhide first

2014-02-12 Thread Kevin Kofler
PS: I wrote: > The patch still applies cleanly to current git master. I'm going to attach > it to Trac. https://trac.fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5854 Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code

Re: Educating packagers about always making changes in devel / rawhide first

2014-02-12 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 12.02.2014 20:46, schrieb Josh Boyer: >> On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Reindl Harald >> wrote: >>> >>> Am 12.02.2014 20:26, schrieb Peter Oliver: On 10 February 2014 16:42, Till Maas wrote: > Isn't AutoQA already runnin

Re: Educating packagers about always making changes in devel / rawhide first

2014-02-12 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 12.02.2014 20:46, schrieb Josh Boyer: > On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> Am 12.02.2014 20:26, schrieb Peter Oliver: >>> On 10 February 2014 16:42, Till Maas wrote: >>> Isn't AutoQA already running these kind of checks? >>> >>> Here's an example: >>> https://admi

Re: Educating packagers about always making changes in devel / rawhide first

2014-02-12 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 12.02.2014 20:26, schrieb Peter Oliver: >> On 10 February 2014 16:42, Till Maas wrote: >> >>> Isn't AutoQA already running these kind of checks? >> >> Here's an example: >> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-1847/Atomic

Re: Educating packagers about always making changes in devel / rawhide first

2014-02-12 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 12.02.2014 20:26, schrieb Peter Oliver: > On 10 February 2014 16:42, Till Maas wrote: > >> Isn't AutoQA already running these kind of checks? > > Here's an example: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-1847/AtomicParsley-0.9.5-2.fc20 worthless as long "results are informati

Re: Educating packagers about always making changes in devel / rawhide first

2014-02-12 Thread Peter Oliver
On 10 February 2014 16:42, Till Maas wrote: > Isn't AutoQA already running these kind of checks? Here's an example: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-1847/AtomicParsley-0.9.5-2.fc20 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/lis

Re: Educating packagers about always making changes in devel / rawhide first

2014-02-12 Thread poma
On 10.02.2014 17:11, Igor Gnatenko wrote: > On Mon, 2014-02-10 at 13:14 +0100, Hans de Goede wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I've just upgraded my main workstation form F-20 to rawhide, and during >> the distro-sync I noticed that several packages in rawhide are older then >> in F-20. >> >> Although there

Re: Educating packagers about always making changes in devel / rawhide first

2014-02-11 Thread Kevin Kofler
Kevin Fenzi wrote: > Can you attach a current version of that to a releng trac ticket and > mark it 'meeting' so it gets discussed at the next releng meeting? > > That would be great. The patch still applies cleanly to current git master. I'm going to attach it to Trac. >> I wrote, which Jesse

Re: Educating packagers about always making changes in devel / rawhide first

2014-02-10 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2014-02-10 at 19:27 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > However, IMHO it makes more > > sense to just hook into AutoQA instead of running the same test > > twice. Also it would allow to respond in a timely manner which might > > better help to educate maintainers instead of when there are severa

Re: Educating packagers about always making changes in devel / rawhide first

2014-02-10 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 03:04:04 +0100 Kevin Kofler wrote: > Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > This is the one I have run in the past: > > https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/releng/tree/scripts/check-upgrade-paths.py > > If you're going to use that script, PLEASE use this patch: > > http://lists.fedoraproject

Re: Educating packagers about always making changes in devel / rawhide first

2014-02-10 Thread Christopher Meng
I think some packagers don't follow Fedora too often, so for a while we can't avoid this issue. But fedpkg should have a RFE: 1. fedpkg checks if the branch is able to receive commits as normal, then return status of the branch. But here comes a problem, Fedora allows packagers to commit to the E

Re: Educating packagers about always making changes in devel / rawhide first

2014-02-10 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 21:37:19 +0100 Till Maas wrote: > On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 09:55:26AM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 17:42:47 +0100 > > Till Maas wrote: > > > > Isn't AutoQA already running these kind of checks? > > > > For f19 and f20 updates, yes... in an advisory manne

Re: Educating packagers about always making changes in devel / rawhide first

2014-02-10 Thread Kevin Kofler
Kevin Fenzi wrote: > This is the one I have run in the past: > https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/releng/tree/scripts/check-upgrade-paths.py If you're going to use that script, PLEASE use this patch: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/attachments/20120418/ead924dd/attachment.bin I wr

Re: Educating packagers about always making changes in devel / rawhide first

2014-02-10 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, On 02/10/2014 08:03 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > > On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > >> >> Would folks be ok with running it weekly or something? >> >> and on which path? The entire f19-updates-testing to rawhide? >> > > IMO, yes and yes +1 Thanks & Regards,

Re: Educating packagers about always making changes in devel / rawhide first

2014-02-10 Thread Till Maas
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 09:55:26AM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 17:42:47 +0100 > Till Maas wrote: > > Isn't AutoQA already running these kind of checks? > > For f19 and f20 updates, yes... in an advisory manner. > > But not for rawhide since it has no bodhi update to add the

Re: Educating packagers about always making changes in devel / rawhide first

2014-02-10 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > Would folks be ok with running it weekly or something? > > and on which path? The entire f19-updates-testing to rawhide? > IMO, yes and yes Rahul -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/m

Re: Educating packagers about always making changes in devel / rawhide first

2014-02-10 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 17:42:47 +0100 Till Maas wrote: > On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 09:36:33AM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > This is the one I have run in the past: > > https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/releng/tree/scripts/check-upgrade-paths.py > > > > Would folks be ok with running it weekly or

Re: Educating packagers about always making changes in devel / rawhide first

2014-02-10 Thread Till Maas
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 09:36:33AM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > This is the one I have run in the past: > https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/releng/tree/scripts/check-upgrade-paths.py > > Would folks be ok with running it weekly or something? > > and on which path? The entire f19-updates-testing

Re: Educating packagers about always making changes in devel / rawhide first

2014-02-10 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 16:46:20 +0200 Ville Skyttä wrote: > On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Hans de Goede > wrote: > > 2) Can someone maybe write a script which automatically detects > > this situation and files bugs with a description text aimed at not > > only getting the issue fixed, but also e

Re: Educating packagers about always making changes in devel / rawhide first

2014-02-10 Thread Ken Dreyer
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Igor Gnatenko wrote: > On Mon, 2014-02-10 at 13:14 +0100, Hans de Goede wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I've just upgraded my main workstation form F-20 to rawhide, and during >> the distro-sync I noticed that several packages in rawhide are older then >> in F-20. > > That

Re: Educating packagers about always making changes in devel / rawhide first

2014-02-10 Thread Igor Gnatenko
On Mon, 2014-02-10 at 13:14 +0100, Hans de Goede wrote: > Hi all, > > I've just upgraded my main workstation form F-20 to rawhide, and during > the distro-sync I noticed that several packages in rawhide are older then > in F-20. > > Although there will be some exceptions I believe that for most o

Re: Educating packagers about always making changes in devel / rawhide first

2014-02-10 Thread Ville Skyttä
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Hans de Goede wrote: > 2) Can someone maybe write a script which automatically detects > this situation and files bugs with a description text aimed at not > only getting the issue fixed, but also educating the packager? I wrote a script to detect this and ran it

Educating packagers about always making changes in devel / rawhide first

2014-02-10 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi all, I've just upgraded my main workstation form F-20 to rawhide, and during the distro-sync I noticed that several packages in rawhide are older then in F-20. Although there will be some exceptions I believe that for most of them this is caused by some packages still not having a proper workf