Re: Evolution + bogofilter
On Mon, 2012-03-19 at 23:06 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote: On a fresh install (such as this one), I do a restore from a backup file as I always do, to include doiong the same thing in F16 (that worked just fine) and the settings are there, and set as suppose to be. Also evolution-bogofilter is installed as well. Just for some reason it's not setting them to junk automatically. Any ideas? evolution-bogofilter-3.3.91-1.fc17.x86_64 evolution-3.3.91-1.fc17.x86_64 bogofilter-1.2.2-3.fc17.x86_64 Hi again, I think I found the issue, it's a bug in evolution's code. Let's move to the upstream bug [1] for further investigation. I'm also currently building a test package for evolution [2], I'll test it and update [1] with my findings. If you could test it too then it'll be helpful. Thanks and bye, Milan [1] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=672916 [2] http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=3956023 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Evolution + bogofilter
On Thu, 2012-03-22 at 10:12 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote: On Thu, 2012-03-22 at 10:40 +0100, Milan Crha wrote: Hi, just a little follow-up. I came across similar question with other user and even not for him, but for me, in my F17 install, I get an empty string when issuing: $ dconf read /org/gnome/evolution/mail/junk-default-plugin regardless the schema file defines the default value as 'Bogofilter'. Maybe that's the reason for non-working automatic spam filtering? Bye, Milan P.S.: I would change the value while evolution is off, just to make sure its change will be taken in the effect On F16 I run the dconf line above and returns nothing as well, cept junk stuff works. How do you change the value, as in what is the command and what am I suppose to see/read in the dconf if it's working correctly? gconftool-2 --get /apps/evolution/mail/junk/default_plugin Bogofilter Side Note: Just did a fresh F17 install last night and trying again at it. One think I see here compared to F16 is on F17 there is no .bogofilter in my home dir compared to F16 there was. Is the bogofilter db or info stored somewhere else? -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY Best little town on Earth! -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Evolution + bogofilter
On Thu, 2012-03-22 at 10:12 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote: On Thu, 2012-03-22 at 10:40 +0100, Milan Crha wrote: Hi, just a little follow-up. I came across similar question with other user and even not for him, but for me, in my F17 install, I get an empty string when issuing: $ dconf read /org/gnome/evolution/mail/junk-default-plugin regardless the schema file defines the default value as 'Bogofilter'. Maybe that's the reason for non-working automatic spam filtering? Bye, Milan P.S.: I would change the value while evolution is off, just to make sure its change will be taken in the effect On F16 I run the dconf line above and returns nothing as well, cept junk stuff works. How do you change the value, as in what is the command and what am I suppose to see/read in the dconf if it's working correctly? Hi, F16 version of evolution (3.2.x) doesn't use GSettings, it's new in F17 (evolution 3.3.x - 3.4.0). The 3.2.x uses GConf, and the key is $ gconftool-2 --get /apps/evolution/mail/junk/default_plugin For setting value I would use dconf-editor, or gconf-editor for GConf key. On F17 the value in dconf should be Bogofilter for you (without quotes), the same what the default value in schema defines. Bye, Milan -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Evolution + bogofilter
On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 10:17 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote: evolution's backup doesn't contain your bogofilter database, it's stored in a bogofilter private directory, thus I guess you need to train it again? Yes I understand it has to relearn. But it doesn't is the problem. I had to keep marking them as junk. Hi, just a little follow-up. I came across similar question with other user and even not for him, but for me, in my F17 install, I get an empty string when issuing: $ dconf read /org/gnome/evolution/mail/junk-default-plugin regardless the schema file defines the default value as 'Bogofilter'. Maybe that's the reason for non-working automatic spam filtering? Bye, Milan P.S.: I would change the value while evolution is off, just to make sure its change will be taken in the effect -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Evolution + bogofilter
On Thu, 2012-03-22 at 10:40 +0100, Milan Crha wrote: Hi, just a little follow-up. I came across similar question with other user and even not for him, but for me, in my F17 install, I get an empty string when issuing: $ dconf read /org/gnome/evolution/mail/junk-default-plugin regardless the schema file defines the default value as 'Bogofilter'. Maybe that's the reason for non-working automatic spam filtering? Bye, Milan P.S.: I would change the value while evolution is off, just to make sure its change will be taken in the effect On F16 I run the dconf line above and returns nothing as well, cept junk stuff works. How do you change the value, as in what is the command and what am I suppose to see/read in the dconf if it's working correctly? -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY Best little town on Earth! -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Evolution + bogofilter
On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 10:17 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote: Yes I understand it has to relearn. But it doesn't is the problem. I had to keep marking them as junk. Example, just reinstalled F16+updates on this very box. Started evo + the backup file as a restore, just as with F17. Soon as I marked the initial spam stuff in my inbox as junk, it started marking automatically. No, it doesn't get them all the time and have to relearn as I go, but it starts to immediately. F17 does NOT do it, almost none at all, even after a couple of days of marking them. Hi, try to run evolution from console like this: $ CAMEL_DEBUG=junk evolution which should tell you what evolution does when you mark message as junk/not-junk. It should print something when a new mail arrives too. This thread http://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2011-November/msg00093.html is discussing similar issue with older evolution. It's rather long, but it contains some tests even for bogofilter database, checking how full it is and so on. Hope that helps, Milan -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Evolution + bogofilter
On Mon, 2012-03-19 at 23:06 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote: Does setting emails in your inbox folder to junk working automatically? It seem it doesn't do it automatically and I have to keep selecting them and manually marking them junk. On a fresh install (such as this one), I do a restore from a backup file as I always do, to include doiong the same thing in F16 (that worked just fine) and the settings are there, and set as suppose to be. Also evolution-bogofilter is installed as well. Just for some reason it's not setting them to junk automatically. Any ideas? evolution-bogofilter-3.3.91-1.fc17.x86_64 evolution-3.3.91-1.fc17.x86_64 bogofilter-1.2.2-3.fc17.x86_64 Hi, evolution's backup doesn't contain your bogofilter database, it's stored in a bogofilter private directory, thus I guess you need to train it again? Bye, Milan -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Evolution + bogofilter
On 03/20/2012 01:06 AM, Mike Chambers wrote: Does setting emails in your inbox folder to junk working automatically? It seem it doesn't do it automatically and I have to keep selecting them and manually marking them junk. On a fresh install (such as this one), I do a restore from a backup file as I always do, to include doiong the same thing in F16 (that worked just fine) and the settings are there, and set as suppose to be. Also evolution-bogofilter is installed as well. Just for some reason it's not setting them to junk automatically. Any ideas? evolution-bogofilter-3.3.91-1.fc17.x86_64 evolution-3.3.91-1.fc17.x86_64 bogofilter-1.2.2-3.fc17.x86_64 I have configured a pop3 account for the email of my institution, and I also have to select each spam mail manually because only some of them go to junk automatically... but I use spamassassin. This is irritating, because I have to do it all the time. I also see that you are using Fedora 17. -- Germán A. Racca Fedora Package Maintainer https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Skytux -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Evolution + bogofilter
On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 08:04 +0100, Milan Crha wrote: On Mon, 2012-03-19 at 23:06 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote: Does setting emails in your inbox folder to junk working automatically? It seem it doesn't do it automatically and I have to keep selecting them and manually marking them junk. On a fresh install (such as this one), I do a restore from a backup file as I always do, to include doiong the same thing in F16 (that worked just fine) and the settings are there, and set as suppose to be. Also evolution-bogofilter is installed as well. Just for some reason it's not setting them to junk automatically. Any ideas? evolution-bogofilter-3.3.91-1.fc17.x86_64 evolution-3.3.91-1.fc17.x86_64 bogofilter-1.2.2-3.fc17.x86_64 Hi, evolution's backup doesn't contain your bogofilter database, it's stored in a bogofilter private directory, thus I guess you need to train it again? Yes I understand it has to relearn. But it doesn't is the problem. I had to keep marking them as junk. Example, just reinstalled F16+updates on this very box. Started evo + the backup file as a restore, just as with F17. Soon as I marked the initial spam stuff in my inbox as junk, it started marking automatically. No, it doesn't get them all the time and have to relearn as I go, but it starts to immediately. F17 does NOT do it, almost none at all, even after a couple of days of marking them. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY Best little town on Earth! -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Evolution + bogofilter
Does setting emails in your inbox folder to junk working automatically? It seem it doesn't do it automatically and I have to keep selecting them and manually marking them junk. On a fresh install (such as this one), I do a restore from a backup file as I always do, to include doiong the same thing in F16 (that worked just fine) and the settings are there, and set as suppose to be. Also evolution-bogofilter is installed as well. Just for some reason it's not setting them to junk automatically. Any ideas? evolution-bogofilter-3.3.91-1.fc17.x86_64 evolution-3.3.91-1.fc17.x86_64 bogofilter-1.2.2-3.fc17.x86_64 -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY Best little town on Earth! -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
