Re: F21 System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6

2014-05-27 Thread Florian Weimer
On 04/11/2014 01:18 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: The BerkeleyDB, used between others by rpm [1], changed license between versions 5.* and 6.* to AGPLv3+ from […]. As those two licenses are not compatible, packages using the BerkeleyDB either has to change its license to AGPLv3+ compatible, keep

Re: F21 System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6

2014-05-14 Thread Paolo Bonzini
Il 24/04/2014 16:50, Kevin Fenzi ha scritto: Well, in the current plan (make libdb5 compat package and updating the libdb to v6), after the mass rebuild the packages would start using v6. Yeah, which makes technical sense... but the concern is packagers who aren't paying attention rebuild

Re: F21 System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6

2014-04-25 Thread Jan Staněk
Dne 24.4.2014 17:22, Jerry James napsal(a): snap I need some advice on how to handle this for XEmacs, which is a GPLv3+ package. snap Well, both GPLv3+ and AGPLv3+ have clause ([1], [2]) that allow code licensed under one of them link with code under the other one legally - only if you run the

Re: F21 System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6

2014-04-25 Thread Jerry James
On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 6:24 AM, Jan Staněk jsta...@redhat.com wrote: Well, both GPLv3+ and AGPLv3+ have clause ([1], [2]) that allow code licensed under one of them link with code under the other one legally - only if you run the full product on a server and it interact with users trough

Re: F21 System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6

2014-04-24 Thread Jan Staněk
Dne 23.4.2014 20:23, Miloslav Trmač napsal(a): Hello, 2014-04-11 13:18 GMT+02:00 Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com: = Proposed System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6 = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BerkeleyDB_6 At the FESCo meeting, we were unclear what happens to packages that don't

Re: F21 System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6

2014-04-24 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, 24 Apr 2014 09:31:43 +0200 Jan Staněk jsta...@redhat.com wrote: Well, in the current plan (make libdb5 compat package and updating the libdb to v6), after the mass rebuild the packages would start using v6. Yeah, which makes technical sense... but the concern is packagers who aren't

Re: F21 System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6

2014-04-24 Thread Jerry James
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 8:50 AM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: Yeah, which makes technical sense... but the concern is packagers who aren't paying attention rebuild for some other reason and are not on v6 when it's a licensing problem. ;( I need some advice on how to handle this for

Re: F21 System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6

2014-04-24 Thread Miloslav Trmač
2014-04-24 17:22 GMT+02:00 Jerry James loganje...@gmail.com: On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 8:50 AM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: Yeah, which makes technical sense... but the concern is packagers who aren't paying attention rebuild for some other reason and are not on v6 when it's a

Re: F21 System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6

2014-04-24 Thread Jerry James
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Miloslav Trmač m...@volny.cz wrote: You'll have the option of moving to libdb5 , without a license change or need to convert data. That should be easiest, at least in the medium term while libdb5 is actively maintained. Sure, but long term I still have the

Re: F21 System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6

2014-04-23 Thread Jan Staněk
Dne 16.4.2014 15:44, Petr Pisar napsal(a): On 2014-04-11, Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com wrote: = Proposed System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6 = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BerkeleyDB_6 [...] The BerkeleyDB, used between others by rpm [1], changed license between versions 5.*

Re: F21 System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6

2014-04-23 Thread Miloslav Trmač
Hello, 2014-04-11 13:18 GMT+02:00 Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com: = Proposed System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6 = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BerkeleyDB_6 At the FESCo meeting, we were unclear what happens to packages that don't get updated; will they sty at v5, or will they

Re: F21 System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6

2014-04-16 Thread Petr Pisar
On 2014-04-11, Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com wrote: = Proposed System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6 = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BerkeleyDB_6 [...] The BerkeleyDB, used between others by rpm [1], changed license between versions 5.* and 6.* to AGPLv3+ from GPLv2+. As those two

Re: F21 System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6

2014-04-15 Thread Jan Staněk
Dne 11.4.2014 15:55, Florian Weimer napsal(a): On 04/11/2014 01:18 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: = Proposed System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6 = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BerkeleyDB_6 Change owner(s): Jan Staněk jsta...@redhat.com Add BerkeleyDB v. 6, which changed license from

Re: F21 System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6

2014-04-15 Thread Jan Staněk
Dne 11.4.2014 14:57, Chris Adams napsal(a): Once upon a time, Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com said: Add BerkeleyDB v. 6, which changed license from previous releases (GPLv2+ to AGPLv3+), to Fedora while keeping the older version for packages which cannot use BerkeleyDB with the new

Re: F21 System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6

2014-04-15 Thread Jan Staněk
Dne 11.4.2014 16:59, Bill Nottingham napsal(a): Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) said: == Scope == * Proposal owners: Create new set of packages and introduce proper versioning in order to not confuse the dynamic linker. Is this symbol versioning intended to be upstream? Ideally,

Re: F21 System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6

2014-04-15 Thread Florian Weimer
On 04/15/2014 03:40 PM, Jan Staněk wrote: Dne 11.4.2014 16:59, Bill Nottingham napsal(a): Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) said: == Scope == * Proposal owners: Create new set of packages and introduce proper versioning in order to not confuse the dynamic linker. Is this symbol versioning

F21 System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6

2014-04-11 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Proposed System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6 = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BerkeleyDB_6 Change owner(s): Jan Staněk jsta...@redhat.com Add BerkeleyDB v. 6, which changed license from previous releases (GPLv2+ to AGPLv3+), to Fedora while keeping the older version for packages which

Re: F21 System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6

2014-04-11 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com said: Add BerkeleyDB v. 6, which changed license from previous releases (GPLv2+ to AGPLv3+), to Fedora while keeping the older version for packages which cannot use BerkeleyDB with the new license. Have the packages that cannot use

Re: F21 System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6

2014-04-11 Thread Florian Weimer
On 04/11/2014 01:18 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: = Proposed System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6 = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BerkeleyDB_6 Change owner(s): Jan Staněk jsta...@redhat.com Add BerkeleyDB v. 6, which changed license from previous releases (GPLv2+ to AGPLv3+), to Fedora while

Re: F21 System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6

2014-04-11 Thread Bill Nottingham
Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) said: == Scope == * Proposal owners: Create new set of packages and introduce proper versioning in order to not confuse the dynamic linker. Is this symbol versioning intended to be upstream? Bill -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org