Re: F30: Self-Contained Change proposal: Firefox Wayland By Default On Gnome
On 01/02/2019 06:49, Chris Murphy wrote: For what it's worth, starting with firefox 65 there are two packages: firefox-wayland-65.0-1.fc29.x86_64 firefox-65.0-1.fc29.x86_64 That has existed for some time, it's not new with 65. Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://compton.nu/ ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: F30: Self-Contained Change proposal: Firefox Wayland By Default On Gnome
For what it's worth, starting with firefox 65 there are two packages: firefox-wayland-65.0-1.fc29.x86_64 firefox-65.0-1.fc29.x86_64 And after installing them there are two application icons in gnome: Firefox and Firefox on Wayland. Both work fine when I've logged into a gnome wayland session; and if it's a gnome on Xorg session, only Firefox launches, whereas Firefox on Wayland sorta just fails silently (spinner hangs out for a bit then goes away), there is a journal message 'firefox[13165]: cannot open display: :0' but that's it. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1671634 Chris Murphy ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: F30: Self-Contained Change proposal: Firefox Wayland By Default On Gnome
On 1/28/19 9:21 AM, Tom Hughes wrote: On 25/01/2019 21:55, Tom Hughes wrote: On 25/01/2019 21:24, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 09:43:32AM -0500, Ben Cotton wrote: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Firefox_Wayland_By_Default_On_Gnome == Summary == Firefox is going to run natively on Gnome Wayland session and won't use XWayland/X11 Gtk+ backend. This change affects Gnome only and won't be enabled for other Wayland compositors (KDE Plasma, Sway). Does this mean it won't work on Xorg? I was just going to ask whether this means there will now be one binary that supports both and, if not, what this means for people still forced into X fallback. I think I've answered this myself - the current firefox-wayland in F29 is just a script that sets GDK_BACKEND so there is already only a single binary that does both. The only change is presumably that it will prefer the wayland backend. Yes, that's correct. Also I'm going use a slightly different solution [1] in next versions as GDK_BACKEND breaks third party programs launched from FF. That said my testing of the F29 build had strangely variable results - on one machine it was largely fine and on another it was completely non-functional for reasons I haven't quite managed to figure out yet. Firefox 64 used on Fedora right now has limited Wayland support and misses some upstream patches. Please try mozilla nightly [2] with GDK_BACKEND=wayland set. Also the upcoming Firefox 65 carries some new Wayland fixes. Thanks, ma. [1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1522780 [2] https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/channel/desktop/ ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: F30: Self-Contained Change proposal: Firefox Wayland By Default On Gnome
On 25/01/2019 21:55, Tom Hughes wrote: On 25/01/2019 21:24, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 09:43:32AM -0500, Ben Cotton wrote: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Firefox_Wayland_By_Default_On_Gnome == Summary == Firefox is going to run natively on Gnome Wayland session and won't use XWayland/X11 Gtk+ backend. This change affects Gnome only and won't be enabled for other Wayland compositors (KDE Plasma, Sway). Does this mean it won't work on Xorg? I was just going to ask whether this means there will now be one binary that supports both and, if not, what this means for people still forced into X fallback. I think I've answered this myself - the current firefox-wayland in F29 is just a script that sets GDK_BACKEND so there is already only a single binary that does both. The only change is presumably that it will prefer the wayland backend. That said my testing of the F29 build had strangely variable results - on one machine it was largely fine and on another it was completely non-functional for reasons I haven't quite managed to figure out yet. Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://compton.nu/ ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: F30: Self-Contained Change proposal: Firefox Wayland By Default On Gnome
On 25/01/2019 21:24, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 09:43:32AM -0500, Ben Cotton wrote: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Firefox_Wayland_By_Default_On_Gnome == Summary == Firefox is going to run natively on Gnome Wayland session and won't use XWayland/X11 Gtk+ backend. This change affects Gnome only and won't be enabled for other Wayland compositors (KDE Plasma, Sway). Does this mean it won't work on Xorg? I was just going to ask whether this means there will now be one binary that supports both and, if not, what this means for people still forced into X fallback. Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://compton.nu/ ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: F30: Self-Contained Change proposal: Firefox Wayland By Default On Gnome
On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 09:43:32AM -0500, Ben Cotton wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Firefox_Wayland_By_Default_On_Gnome > > == Summary == > Firefox is going to run natively on Gnome Wayland session and won't > use XWayland/X11 Gtk+ backend. This change affects Gnome only and > won't be enabled for other Wayland compositors (KDE Plasma, Sway). Does this mean it won't work on Xorg? For that matter, does Wayland support X-like remote applications yet? Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones Read my programming and virtualization blog: http://rwmj.wordpress.com virt-df lists disk usage of guests without needing to install any software inside the virtual machine. Supports Linux and Windows. http://people.redhat.com/~rjones/virt-df/ ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: F30: Self-Contained Change proposal: Firefox Wayland By Default On Gnome
I hope this gets fixed before FF on Wayland becomes the only option: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1666410 It makes FF really difficult to use with menus drawn off screen. -- Bojan Original Message From: Ben Cotton Sent: 26 January 2019 1:43:32 am AEDT To: devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org, Development discussions related to Fedora Subject: F30: Self-Contained Change proposal: Firefox Wayland By Default On Gnome https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Firefox_Wayland_By_Default_On_Gnome == Summary == Firefox is going to run natively on Gnome Wayland session and won't use XWayland/X11 Gtk+ backend. This change affects Gnome only and won't be enabled for other Wayland compositors (KDE Plasma, Sway). == Owner == * Name: [[User:stransky| Martin Stransky]] * Email: * Product: Spins / Workstation * Responsible WG: Desktop == Detailed Description == Firefox with native Wayland backend has been available for last two Fedora releases as an optional package. It grown over the time and we can deploy it now as a default to bring all Wayland benefits to Fedora users. == Benefit to Fedora == Running Firefox natively on Wayland is generally faster and smoother on Wayland enabled sessions like Gnome Wayland and better supports HiDPI displays (respects desktop scale) . == Scope == * Proposal owners: Firefox already uses Wayland as a default backend on Fedora 30 / Gnoma Wayland session. * Other developers: N/A (not a System Wide Change) * Release engineering: [https://pagure.io/releng/issues #Releng issue number] (a check of an impact with Release Engineering is needed) ** List of deliverables: N/A (not a System Wide Change) * Policies and guidelines: N/A (not a System Wide Change) * Trademark approval: N/A (not needed for this Change) == Upgrade/compatibility impact == N/A (not a System Wide Change) == How To Test == Run Firefox on Gnome Wayland session and check any issues you may see. == User Experience == * Faster Firefox run on Gnome Wayland session * Smoother font rendering compared to non-Wayland Firefox version * Honor display scale, better user experience on HiDPI and semi-HiDPI desktops. == Dependencies == N/A (not a System Wide Change) == Contingency Plan == * Contingency mechanism: Switch back default X11 backend. * Contingency deadline: Beta Freeze * Blocks release? No * Blocks product? product No == Documentation == * Mozilla Firefox Wayland Bug tracker: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=635134 * Mozilla release calendar: https://wiki.mozilla.org/RapidRelease/Calendar -- Ben Cotton Fedora Program Manager TZ=America/Indiana/Indianapolis ___ devel-announce mailing list -- devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-announce-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: F30: Self-Contained Change proposal: Firefox Wayland By Default On Gnome
On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 09:43:32AM -0500, Ben Cotton wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Firefox_Wayland_By_Default_On_Gnome > > == Summary == > Firefox is going to run natively on Gnome Wayland session and won't > use XWayland/X11 Gtk+ backend. This change affects Gnome only and > won't be enabled for other Wayland compositors (KDE Plasma, Sway). Why not others? -- Tomasz TorczOnce you've read the dictionary, xmpp: zdzich...@chrome.pl every other book is just a remix. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
F30: Self-Contained Change proposal: Firefox Wayland By Default On Gnome
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Firefox_Wayland_By_Default_On_Gnome == Summary == Firefox is going to run natively on Gnome Wayland session and won't use XWayland/X11 Gtk+ backend. This change affects Gnome only and won't be enabled for other Wayland compositors (KDE Plasma, Sway). == Owner == * Name: [[User:stransky| Martin Stransky]] * Email: * Product: Spins / Workstation * Responsible WG: Desktop == Detailed Description == Firefox with native Wayland backend has been available for last two Fedora releases as an optional package. It grown over the time and we can deploy it now as a default to bring all Wayland benefits to Fedora users. == Benefit to Fedora == Running Firefox natively on Wayland is generally faster and smoother on Wayland enabled sessions like Gnome Wayland and better supports HiDPI displays (respects desktop scale) . == Scope == * Proposal owners: Firefox already uses Wayland as a default backend on Fedora 30 / Gnoma Wayland session. * Other developers: N/A (not a System Wide Change) * Release engineering: [https://pagure.io/releng/issues #Releng issue number] (a check of an impact with Release Engineering is needed) ** List of deliverables: N/A (not a System Wide Change) * Policies and guidelines: N/A (not a System Wide Change) * Trademark approval: N/A (not needed for this Change) == Upgrade/compatibility impact == N/A (not a System Wide Change) == How To Test == Run Firefox on Gnome Wayland session and check any issues you may see. == User Experience == * Faster Firefox run on Gnome Wayland session * Smoother font rendering compared to non-Wayland Firefox version * Honor display scale, better user experience on HiDPI and semi-HiDPI desktops. == Dependencies == N/A (not a System Wide Change) == Contingency Plan == * Contingency mechanism: Switch back default X11 backend. * Contingency deadline: Beta Freeze * Blocks release? No * Blocks product? product No == Documentation == * Mozilla Firefox Wayland Bug tracker: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=635134 * Mozilla release calendar: https://wiki.mozilla.org/RapidRelease/Calendar -- Ben Cotton Fedora Program Manager TZ=America/Indiana/Indianapolis ___ devel-announce mailing list -- devel-announce@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-announce-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel-announce@lists.fedoraproject.org
F30: Self-Contained Change proposal: Firefox Wayland By Default On Gnome
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Firefox_Wayland_By_Default_On_Gnome == Summary == Firefox is going to run natively on Gnome Wayland session and won't use XWayland/X11 Gtk+ backend. This change affects Gnome only and won't be enabled for other Wayland compositors (KDE Plasma, Sway). == Owner == * Name: [[User:stransky| Martin Stransky]] * Email: * Product: Spins / Workstation * Responsible WG: Desktop == Detailed Description == Firefox with native Wayland backend has been available for last two Fedora releases as an optional package. It grown over the time and we can deploy it now as a default to bring all Wayland benefits to Fedora users. == Benefit to Fedora == Running Firefox natively on Wayland is generally faster and smoother on Wayland enabled sessions like Gnome Wayland and better supports HiDPI displays (respects desktop scale) . == Scope == * Proposal owners: Firefox already uses Wayland as a default backend on Fedora 30 / Gnoma Wayland session. * Other developers: N/A (not a System Wide Change) * Release engineering: [https://pagure.io/releng/issues #Releng issue number] (a check of an impact with Release Engineering is needed) ** List of deliverables: N/A (not a System Wide Change) * Policies and guidelines: N/A (not a System Wide Change) * Trademark approval: N/A (not needed for this Change) == Upgrade/compatibility impact == N/A (not a System Wide Change) == How To Test == Run Firefox on Gnome Wayland session and check any issues you may see. == User Experience == * Faster Firefox run on Gnome Wayland session * Smoother font rendering compared to non-Wayland Firefox version * Honor display scale, better user experience on HiDPI and semi-HiDPI desktops. == Dependencies == N/A (not a System Wide Change) == Contingency Plan == * Contingency mechanism: Switch back default X11 backend. * Contingency deadline: Beta Freeze * Blocks release? No * Blocks product? product No == Documentation == * Mozilla Firefox Wayland Bug tracker: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=635134 * Mozilla release calendar: https://wiki.mozilla.org/RapidRelease/Calendar -- Ben Cotton Fedora Program Manager TZ=America/Indiana/Indianapolis ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
