Re: Fedora 14 and Sandy Bridge graphics
On Sun, 12.06.11 18:59, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote: Am 12.06.2011 18:56, schrieb drago01: On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 12.06.2011 18:53, schrieb drago01: On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: upstart is still maintained and shipped, you should be able to install and use it. and why in the world is systemd forced after a upgrade via yum where upstart was in use before - upgrades should left core configurations in peace! Upgrade usually means progress not stagnation, if you want to stay in the past don't upgrade. you said upstart is still maintained and shipped, you should be able to install and use it - so how and why damned must be a init-replace in a early state forced on a existing system? systemd surpasses Upstart in every way. It's not in an early state. Upstart is much more limited and hence in a much earlier state feature-wise. normally this should be systemd is also available for upgraded systems and you should be able to install and use it Yes, it was in F14. Lennart -- Lennart Poettering - Red Hat, Inc. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora 14 and Sandy Bridge graphics
Am 13.06.2011 09:13, schrieb Lennart Poettering: systemd surpasses Upstart in every way. It's not in an early state. Upstart is much more limited and hence in a much earlier state feature-wise. in theory the problem is that you are frcing bringing your baby to the users in a braindead way it happended before with PulseAudio which also made more troubles for 2-3 fedora releases as it solved https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=707507 laughable that such things are happening in the year 2011 and not fixed in a hurry! normally this should be systemd is also available for upgraded systems and you should be able to install and use it Yes, it was in F14 And it should be minimum for F15/F16 for existing installations get your beta userbase with new setups and not existing happy users! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora 14 and Sandy Bridge graphics = systemd
On 06/13/2011 03:13 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: ... systemd surpasses Upstart in every way. It's not in an early state. Upstart is much more limited and hence in a much earlier state feature-wise. ... Lennart Superior design - yes I like it - but in practice there are still some issues like these which remain quite problematic - for example: 2011-03-30: NFS Status unresolved https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=692008 2010-09-14 - Sendmail Some Network Dependent Daemons not started at boot: Status - unresolved. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=633774 I assume these will get resolved and its not surprising at all that problems occur - but the sendmail one seems to have been hanging around for nearly 9 months ... worrisome and a bit long for a core service don't you think. gene -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora 14 and Sandy Bridge graphics
On Sun, 2011-06-12 at 20:02 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 12.06.2011 19:28, schrieb Lucas: Strange, I did exactly the same thing with Fedora 14, I add new kernel, changed xorg and intel driver. But I have i686. mhh - strange - an trying to update glibc results in chaos Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden means file not found in english yes as advanced user i was able to repair this with some luck updating only the kernel/kernel-headers/kernel-devel results in no longer able to build kernel-modules (vmware-workstation) and this all for a graphics-driver? i remember times where feodra updated the kernel in the lifetime of a supported release and now you can do nothing if you do not want replace of upstart by systemd, if systemd would not be hardly activated in F15 a dist-upgrade would be no problem BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT This kind of language is inappropriate on Fedora mailing lists. More than the language, though, the tone of this thread is also unfortunate. It appears that you are unhappy and frustrated at the moment - I've seen a few emails from you so far today in which you've used all-capitals text. All-capitals text is perceived by most tech people as rude. One of Fedora's goals is to be a fast-moving distribution: systemd offers significant improvements compared to previous init systems (for me the integration with cgroups is particularly appealing). The drawback with having features first, is that arguably we're the first into the minefield. There will always be bugs and unexpected interactions in something as complicated as software. FWIW, systemd was held back from being in Fedora 14 to give it more time to mature. Another core foundation of Fedora is Friends We want our community to be a pleasant place to be. Your initial question in this thread asked is there any clean way to get newer intel-graphics drivers on fedora 14? Gene provided an answer to that question, providing a recipe that may provide a hybrid of parts of F14 and F15. This may or may not work (I'm wary of such hybrid approaches) - but I understood that Gene was trying to be helpful. This is the development mailing list for Fedora so the standard for a simple fix may be different from the Fedora user mailing lists. It may be that there's no good way to make this hybrid work (for some definition of good e.g. minimizing the number of steps, being maintainable etc), and that the best way to make this hardware work is to upgrade to Fedora 15. It seems that you are unhappy with that, and your unhappiness with that seems to stem from unhappiness with systemd. Please try to redirect that into non-emotional statements of what is wrong with the software, in a form that can be acted on, and turned into patches. In particular, read: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugsAndFeatureRequests http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html http://www.softwaretestinghelp.com/how-to-write-good-bug-report/ It may also help to take a break from using the computer if it is making you unhappy. [snip rest of mail] I hope this is helpful Dave (borrowing from Smooge's sig) Let us be kind, one to another, for most of us are fighting a hard battle. -- Ian MacLaren -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora 14 and Sandy Bridge graphics
so now i have the options of a upgrade to F15 while much work, hughe health troubles and 2 weeks holidays are priority one in my life this time Maybe if you complained less on mailing lists you would have time to try out F15. I have problems on my hardware as well (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=711489), but I do not whine about it on this mailing list. Every moment the devs spend reading and aswering pointless rants there is less time to do actual development and fix real bugs. You seem to want that the Fedora devs provide newer Linux packages for F14. I would like that to. But that takes a lot of resources that are much better spent elsewhere, like fixing reported bugs! (Please fedora devs, fix my bugs :) ) /Andreas Tunek -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Fedora 14 and Sandy Bridge graphics
is there any clean way to get newer intel-graphics drivers on fedora 14? performance is horrible and under kde the desktop often hangs for some seconds this is nothing i would expect with http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=52213 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora 14 and Sandy Bridge graphics
On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 6:00 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: is there any clean way to get newer intel-graphics drivers on fedora 14? performance is horrible and under kde the desktop often hangs for some seconds 1) Wrong list 2) Update to F15 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora 14 and Sandy Bridge graphics
Am 12.06.2011 18:37, schrieb drago01: On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 6:00 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: is there any clean way to get newer intel-graphics drivers on fedora 14? performance is horrible and under kde the desktop often hangs for some seconds 1) Wrong list because why? F14 is in the middle of the support-cycle 2) Update to F15 give me a way to replace systemd by upstart as in F13, F14 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora 14 and Sandy Bridge graphics
On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 12.06.2011 18:37, schrieb drago01: On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 6:00 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: is there any clean way to get newer intel-graphics drivers on fedora 14? performance is horrible and under kde the desktop often hangs for some seconds 1) Wrong list because why? F14 is in the middle of the support-cycle Because this is the *development* mailing list, there is a separate list for user support. 2) Update to F15 give me a way to replace systemd by upstart as in F13, F14 upstart is still maintained and shipped, you should be able to install and use it. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora 14 and Sandy Bridge graphics
Am 12.06.2011 18:53, schrieb drago01: On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: upstart is still maintained and shipped, you should be able to install and use it. and why in the world is systemd forced after a upgrade via yum where upstart was in use before - upgrades should left core configurations in peace! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora 14 and Sandy Bridge graphics
On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 12.06.2011 18:53, schrieb drago01: On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: upstart is still maintained and shipped, you should be able to install and use it. and why in the world is systemd forced after a upgrade via yum where upstart was in use before - upgrades should left core configurations in peace! Upgrade usually means progress not stagnation, if you want to stay in the past don't upgrade. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora 14 and Sandy Bridge graphics
Am 12.06.2011 18:56, schrieb drago01: On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 12.06.2011 18:53, schrieb drago01: On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: upstart is still maintained and shipped, you should be able to install and use it. and why in the world is systemd forced after a upgrade via yum where upstart was in use before - upgrades should left core configurations in peace! Upgrade usually means progress not stagnation, if you want to stay in the past don't upgrade. you said upstart is still maintained and shipped, you should be able to install and use it - so how and why damned must be a init-replace in a early state forced on a existing system? normally this should be systemd is also available for upgraded systems and you should be able to install and use it signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora 14 and Sandy Bridge graphics
On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 6:59 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 12.06.2011 18:56, schrieb drago01: On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 12.06.2011 18:53, schrieb drago01: On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: upstart is still maintained and shipped, you should be able to install and use it. and why in the world is systemd forced after a upgrade via yum where upstart was in use before - upgrades should left core configurations in peace! Upgrade usually means progress not stagnation, if you want to stay in the past don't upgrade. you said upstart is still maintained and shipped, you should be able to install and use it - so how and why damned must be a init-replace in a early state forced on a existing system? That was the case in F14, now we are making the switch. For people that for whatever reasons want upstart it is still here. But for the rest we move on ... But please don't start yet another systemd flamewar we had enough of them. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora 14 and Sandy Bridge graphics
Am 12.06.2011 19:03, schrieb drago01: On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 6:59 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: you said upstart is still maintained and shipped, you should be able to install and use it - so how and why damned must be a init-replace in a early state forced on a existing system? That was the case in F14, now we are making the switch. For people that for whatever reasons want upstart it is still here. But for the rest we move on ... But please don't start yet another systemd flamewar we had enough of them if will not start a flamewar i still have not the time yet to verify a couple of services/service-orders and it is useless for me making a 30 second reboot 2 seconds faster, so i like to use the old init-system and have NO IDEA how to do this and that is why a UPGRADE should not forcing switch essential core-systems if not really needed signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora 14 and Sandy Bridge graphics
On 06/12/2011 09:12 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 12.06.2011 19:03, schrieb drago01: On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 6:59 PM, Reindl Haraldh.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: you said upstart is still maintained and shipped, you should be able to install and use it - so how and why damned must be a init-replace in a early state forced on a existing system? That was the case in F14, now we are making the switch. For people that for whatever reasons want upstart it is still here. But for the rest we move on ... But please don't start yet another systemd flamewar we had enough of them if will not start a flamewar i still have not the time yet to verify a couple of services/service-orders and it is useless for me making a 30 second reboot 2 seconds faster, so i like to use the old init-system and have NO IDEA how to do this and that is why a UPGRADE should not forcing switch essential core-systems if not really needed Look, to be able to use Sandy Bridge you need - i915 driver, kernel, and Xorg. You can add Fedora 15 repository and update only kernel, Xorg and intel driver. All of this you can download from koji and install manually. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora 14 and Sandy Bridge graphics
Am 12.06.2011 19:14, schrieb Lucas: On 06/12/2011 09:12 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Look, to be able to use Sandy Bridge you need - i915 driver, kernel, and Xorg. You can add Fedora 15 repository and update only kernel, Xorg and intel driver. All of this you can download from koji and install manually. i tried this before my first post this is simply not true because this forces glibc as requirement -- Führe Transaktionsprüfung aus --- Paket kernel.x86_64 0:2.6.38.8-31.fc15 markiert, um installiert zu werden --- Paket kernel-devel.x86_64 0:2.6.38.8-31.fc15 markiert, um installiert zu werden --- Paket kernel-headers.x86_64 0:2.6.38.8-31.fc15 markiert, um aktualisiert zu werden --- Paket libdrm.x86_64 0:2.4.25-1.fc15 markiert, um aktualisiert zu werden --- Paket linux-firmware.noarch 0:20110601-1.fc15 markiert, um aktualisiert zu werden --- Paket xorg-x11-drv-intel.x86_64 0:2.14.0-6.fc15 markiert, um aktualisiert zu werden -- Verarbeite Abhängigkeiten: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.14)(64bit) für Paket: xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.14.0-6.fc15.x86_64 --- Paket xorg-x11-server-Xorg.x86_64 0:1.10.1-14.fc15 markiert, um aktualisiert zu werden -- Verarbeite Abhängigkeiten: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.14)(64bit) für Paket: xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.10.1-14.fc15.x86_64 --- Paket xorg-x11-server-common.x86_64 0:1.10.1-14.fc15 markiert, um aktualisiert zu werden -- Abhängigkeitsauflösung beendet Fehler: Package: xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.10.1-14.fc15.x86_64 (/xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.10.1-14.fc15.x86_64) Requires: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.14)(64bit) Fehler: Package: xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.14.0-6.fc15.x86_64 (/xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.14.0-6.fc15.x86_64) Requires: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.14)(64bit) Sie können versuchen --skip-broken zu benutzen, um das Problem zu umgehen. You could try running: rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest [root@rh:/downloads]$ ls insgesamt 40M drwxr-xr-x 16 harry verwaltung 4,0K 2011-06-09 10:58 teletest -rw-r--r-- 1 harry verwaltung 23M 2011-06-12 19:17 kernel-2.6.38.8-31.fc15.x86_64.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 harry verwaltung 6,8M 2011-06-12 19:17 kernel-devel-2.6.38.8-31.fc15.x86_64.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 harry verwaltung 739K 2011-06-12 19:16 kernel-headers-2.6.38.8-31.fc15.x86_64.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 root root69K 2011-04-15 05:54 libdrm-2.4.25-1.fc15.x86_64.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 harry verwaltung 8,3M 2011-06-12 19:17 linux-firmware-20110601-1.fc15.noarch.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 202K 2011-04-28 19:13 xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.14.0-6.fc15.x86_64.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 root root77K 2011-05-05 22:55 xorg-x11-server-common-1.10.1-14.fc15.x86_64.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1,4M 2011-05-05 22:52 xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.10.1-14.fc15.x86_64.rpm signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora 14 and Sandy Bridge graphics
On 06/12/2011 12:55 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 12.06.2011 18:53, schrieb drago01: On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Reindl Haraldh.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: upstart is still maintained and shipped, you should be able to install and use it. and why in the world is systemd forced after a upgrade via yum where upstart was in use before - upgrades should left core configurations in peace! +1 -- Stephen Clark *NetWolves* Sr. Software Engineer III Phone: 813-579-3200 Fax: 813-882-0209 Email: steve.cl...@netwolves.com http://www.netwolves.com -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora 14 and Sandy Bridge graphics
On 06/12/2011 09:18 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 12.06.2011 19:14, schrieb Lucas: On 06/12/2011 09:12 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Look, to be able to use Sandy Bridge you need - i915 driver, kernel, and Xorg. You can add Fedora 15 repository and update only kernel, Xorg and intel driver. All of this you can download from koji and install manually. i tried this before my first post this is simply not true because this forces glibc as requirement -- Führe Transaktionsprüfung aus --- Paket kernel.x86_64 0:2.6.38.8-31.fc15 markiert, um installiert zu werden --- Paket kernel-devel.x86_64 0:2.6.38.8-31.fc15 markiert, um installiert zu werden --- Paket kernel-headers.x86_64 0:2.6.38.8-31.fc15 markiert, um aktualisiert zu werden --- Paket libdrm.x86_64 0:2.4.25-1.fc15 markiert, um aktualisiert zu werden --- Paket linux-firmware.noarch 0:20110601-1.fc15 markiert, um aktualisiert zu werden --- Paket xorg-x11-drv-intel.x86_64 0:2.14.0-6.fc15 markiert, um aktualisiert zu werden -- Verarbeite Abhängigkeiten: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.14)(64bit) für Paket: xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.14.0-6.fc15.x86_64 --- Paket xorg-x11-server-Xorg.x86_64 0:1.10.1-14.fc15 markiert, um aktualisiert zu werden -- Verarbeite Abhängigkeiten: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.14)(64bit) für Paket: xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.10.1-14.fc15.x86_64 --- Paket xorg-x11-server-common.x86_64 0:1.10.1-14.fc15 markiert, um aktualisiert zu werden -- Abhängigkeitsauflösung beendet Fehler: Package: xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.10.1-14.fc15.x86_64 (/xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.10.1-14.fc15.x86_64) Requires: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.14)(64bit) Fehler: Package: xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.14.0-6.fc15.x86_64 (/xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.14.0-6.fc15.x86_64) Requires: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.14)(64bit) Sie können versuchen --skip-broken zu benutzen, um das Problem zu umgehen. You could try running: rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest [root@rh:/downloads]$ ls insgesamt 40M drwxr-xr-x 16 harry verwaltung 4,0K 2011-06-09 10:58 teletest -rw-r--r-- 1 harry verwaltung 23M 2011-06-12 19:17 kernel-2.6.38.8-31.fc15.x86_64.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 harry verwaltung 6,8M 2011-06-12 19:17 kernel-devel-2.6.38.8-31.fc15.x86_64.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 harry verwaltung 739K 2011-06-12 19:16 kernel-headers-2.6.38.8-31.fc15.x86_64.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 root root69K 2011-04-15 05:54 libdrm-2.4.25-1.fc15.x86_64.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 harry verwaltung 8,3M 2011-06-12 19:17 linux-firmware-20110601-1.fc15.noarch.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 202K 2011-04-28 19:13 xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.14.0-6.fc15.x86_64.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 root root77K 2011-05-05 22:55 xorg-x11-server-common-1.10.1-14.fc15.x86_64.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1,4M 2011-05-05 22:52 xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.10.1-14.fc15.x86_64.rpm Strange, I did exactly the same thing with Fedora 14, I add new kernel, changed xorg and intel driver. But I have i686. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora 14 and Sandy Bridge graphics
On 06/12/2011 09:18 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 12.06.2011 19:14, schrieb Lucas: On 06/12/2011 09:12 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Look, to be able to use Sandy Bridge you need - i915 driver, kernel, and Xorg. You can add Fedora 15 repository and update only kernel, Xorg and intel driver. All of this you can download from koji and install manually. i tried this before my first post this is simply not true because this forces glibc as requirement -- Führe Transaktionsprüfung aus --- Paket kernel.x86_64 0:2.6.38.8-31.fc15 markiert, um installiert zu werden --- Paket kernel-devel.x86_64 0:2.6.38.8-31.fc15 markiert, um installiert zu werden --- Paket kernel-headers.x86_64 0:2.6.38.8-31.fc15 markiert, um aktualisiert zu werden --- Paket libdrm.x86_64 0:2.4.25-1.fc15 markiert, um aktualisiert zu werden --- Paket linux-firmware.noarch 0:20110601-1.fc15 markiert, um aktualisiert zu werden --- Paket xorg-x11-drv-intel.x86_64 0:2.14.0-6.fc15 markiert, um aktualisiert zu werden -- Verarbeite Abhängigkeiten: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.14)(64bit) für Paket: xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.14.0-6.fc15.x86_64 --- Paket xorg-x11-server-Xorg.x86_64 0:1.10.1-14.fc15 markiert, um aktualisiert zu werden -- Verarbeite Abhängigkeiten: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.14)(64bit) für Paket: xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.10.1-14.fc15.x86_64 --- Paket xorg-x11-server-common.x86_64 0:1.10.1-14.fc15 markiert, um aktualisiert zu werden -- Abhängigkeitsauflösung beendet Fehler: Package: xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.10.1-14.fc15.x86_64 (/xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.10.1-14.fc15.x86_64) Requires: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.14)(64bit) Fehler: Package: xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.14.0-6.fc15.x86_64 (/xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.14.0-6.fc15.x86_64) Requires: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.14)(64bit) Sie können versuchen --skip-broken zu benutzen, um das Problem zu umgehen. You could try running: rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest [root@rh:/downloads]$ ls insgesamt 40M drwxr-xr-x 16 harry verwaltung 4,0K 2011-06-09 10:58 teletest -rw-r--r-- 1 harry verwaltung 23M 2011-06-12 19:17 kernel-2.6.38.8-31.fc15.x86_64.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 harry verwaltung 6,8M 2011-06-12 19:17 kernel-devel-2.6.38.8-31.fc15.x86_64.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 harry verwaltung 739K 2011-06-12 19:16 kernel-headers-2.6.38.8-31.fc15.x86_64.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 root root69K 2011-04-15 05:54 libdrm-2.4.25-1.fc15.x86_64.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 harry verwaltung 8,3M 2011-06-12 19:17 linux-firmware-20110601-1.fc15.noarch.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 202K 2011-04-28 19:13 xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.14.0-6.fc15.x86_64.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 root root77K 2011-05-05 22:55 xorg-x11-server-common-1.10.1-14.fc15.x86_64.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1,4M 2011-05-05 22:52 xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.10.1-14.fc15.x86_64.rpm I probably already had libc.so.6 in Fedora 14. Because I did not have any problem with update process. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora 14 and Sandy Bridge graphics
Hi Reindl, You could also build it from sources. You should already have the latest kernel and the X server updates, compiling the intel driver will then produce a couple of user-space shared libraries that you can place in /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers. That's it. -Ilyes 2011/6/12 Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net: Am 12.06.2011 19:14, schrieb Lucas: On 06/12/2011 09:12 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Look, to be able to use Sandy Bridge you need - i915 driver, kernel, and Xorg. You can add Fedora 15 repository and update only kernel, Xorg and intel driver. All of this you can download from koji and install manually. i tried this before my first post this is simply not true because this forces glibc as requirement -- Führe Transaktionsprüfung aus --- Paket kernel.x86_64 0:2.6.38.8-31.fc15 markiert, um installiert zu werden --- Paket kernel-devel.x86_64 0:2.6.38.8-31.fc15 markiert, um installiert zu werden --- Paket kernel-headers.x86_64 0:2.6.38.8-31.fc15 markiert, um aktualisiert zu werden --- Paket libdrm.x86_64 0:2.4.25-1.fc15 markiert, um aktualisiert zu werden --- Paket linux-firmware.noarch 0:20110601-1.fc15 markiert, um aktualisiert zu werden --- Paket xorg-x11-drv-intel.x86_64 0:2.14.0-6.fc15 markiert, um aktualisiert zu werden -- Verarbeite Abhängigkeiten: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.14)(64bit) für Paket: xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.14.0-6.fc15.x86_64 --- Paket xorg-x11-server-Xorg.x86_64 0:1.10.1-14.fc15 markiert, um aktualisiert zu werden -- Verarbeite Abhängigkeiten: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.14)(64bit) für Paket: xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.10.1-14.fc15.x86_64 --- Paket xorg-x11-server-common.x86_64 0:1.10.1-14.fc15 markiert, um aktualisiert zu werden -- Abhängigkeitsauflösung beendet Fehler: Package: xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.10.1-14.fc15.x86_64 (/xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.10.1-14.fc15.x86_64) Requires: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.14)(64bit) Fehler: Package: xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.14.0-6.fc15.x86_64 (/xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.14.0-6.fc15.x86_64) Requires: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.14)(64bit) Sie können versuchen --skip-broken zu benutzen, um das Problem zu umgehen. You could try running: rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest [root@rh:/downloads]$ ls insgesamt 40M drwxr-xr-x 16 harry verwaltung 4,0K 2011-06-09 10:58 teletest -rw-r--r-- 1 harry verwaltung 23M 2011-06-12 19:17 kernel-2.6.38.8-31.fc15.x86_64.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 harry verwaltung 6,8M 2011-06-12 19:17 kernel-devel-2.6.38.8-31.fc15.x86_64.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 harry verwaltung 739K 2011-06-12 19:16 kernel-headers-2.6.38.8-31.fc15.x86_64.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 69K 2011-04-15 05:54 libdrm-2.4.25-1.fc15.x86_64.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 harry verwaltung 8,3M 2011-06-12 19:17 linux-firmware-20110601-1.fc15.noarch.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 202K 2011-04-28 19:13 xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.14.0-6.fc15.x86_64.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 77K 2011-05-05 22:55 xorg-x11-server-common-1.10.1-14.fc15.x86_64.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1,4M 2011-05-05 22:52 xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.10.1-14.fc15.x86_64.rpm -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora 14 and Sandy Bridge graphics
Am 12.06.2011 19:28, schrieb Lucas: Strange, I did exactly the same thing with Fedora 14, I add new kernel, changed xorg and intel driver. But I have i686. mhh - strange - an trying to update glibc results in chaos Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden means file not found in english yes as advanced user i was able to repair this with some luck updating only the kernel/kernel-headers/kernel-devel results in no longer able to build kernel-modules (vmware-workstation) and this all for a graphics-driver? i remember times where feodra updated the kernel in the lifetime of a supported release and now you can do nothing if you do not want replace of upstart by systemd, if systemd would not be hardly activated in F15 a dist-upgrade would be no problem BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT scripts/basic/fixdep: /lib64/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.14' not found (required by scripts/basic/fixdep) make[2]: *** [/tmp/vmware-root/modules/vmmon-only/linux/driverLog.o] Fehler 1 make[1]: *** [_module_/tmp/vmware-root/modules/vmmon-only] Fehler 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernels/2.6.38.8-31.fc15.x86_64' make: *** [vmmon.ko] Fehler 2 make: Leaving directory `/tmp/vmware-root/modules/vmmon-only' [master 1f5151f] saving uncommitted changes in /etc prior to yum run 1 files changed, 29 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) create mode 100644 yum.repos.d/fedora-15.repo Aktualisieren : glibc-common-2.14-1.x86_64 1/24 Aktualisieren : glibc-2.14-1.x86_64 2/24 Error: Cannot open file kernel-headers-2.6.38.8-31.fc15.x86_64.rpm: [Errno 2] Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden: 'kernel-headers-2.6.38.8-31.fc15.x86_64.rpm' TypeError: an integer is required Fehler: Python-Callback bound method RPMTransaction.callback of yum.rpmtrans.RPMTransaction instance at 0x43bcab8 fehlgeschlagen, abbrechen! [root@rh:/downloads]$ rpm -Uvh --force *.rpm Warnung: libdrm-2.4.25-1.fc15.x86_64.rpm: Header V3 RSA/SHA256 Signature, Schlüssel-ID 069c8460: NOKEY Vorbereiten... ### [100%] 1:glibc-common ### [ 8%] 2:glibc ### [ 15%] Fehler: Öffnen von xorg-x11-server-common-1.10.1-14.fc15.x86_64.rpm fehlgeschlagen: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden Fehler: Öffnen von linux-firmware-20110601-1.fc15.noarch.rpm fehlgeschlagen: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden Fehler: Öffnen von kernel-headers-2.6.38.8-31.fc15.x86_64.rpm fehlgeschlagen: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden Fehler: Öffnen von glibc-headers-2.14-1.x86_64.rpm fehlgeschlagen: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden Fehler: Öffnen von glibc-devel-2.14-1.x86_64.rpm fehlgeschlagen: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden Fehler: Öffnen von kernel-devel-2.6.38.8-31.fc15.x86_64.rpm fehlgeschlagen: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden Fehler: Öffnen von kernel-2.6.38.8-31.fc15.x86_64.rpm fehlgeschlagen: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden Fehler: Öffnen von libdrm-2.4.25-1.fc15.x86_64.rpm fehlgeschlagen: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden Fehler: Öffnen von xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.10.1-14.fc15.x86_64.rpm fehlgeschlagen: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden Fehler: Öffnen von xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.14.0-6.fc15.x86_64.rpm fehlgeschlagen: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden Fehler: Öffnen von xorg-x11-drv-nouveau-0.0.16-24.20110324git8378443.fc15.x86_64.rpm fehlgeschlagen: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora 14 and Sandy Bridge graphics
On 06/12/2011 10:02 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 12.06.2011 19:28, schrieb Lucas: Strange, I did exactly the same thing with Fedora 14, I add new kernel, changed xorg and intel driver. But I have i686. mhh - strange - an trying to update glibc results in chaos Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden means file not found in english yes as advanced user i was able to repair this with some luck updating only the kernel/kernel-headers/kernel-devel results in no longer able to build kernel-modules (vmware-workstation) and this all for a graphics-driver? i remember times where feodra updated the kernel in the lifetime of a supported release and now you can do nothing if you do not want replace of upstart by systemd, if systemd would not be hardly activated in F15 a dist-upgrade would be no problem BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT scripts/basic/fixdep: /lib64/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.14' not found (required by scripts/basic/fixdep) make[2]: *** [/tmp/vmware-root/modules/vmmon-only/linux/driverLog.o] Fehler 1 make[1]: *** [_module_/tmp/vmware-root/modules/vmmon-only] Fehler 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernels/2.6.38.8-31.fc15.x86_64' make: *** [vmmon.ko] Fehler 2 make: Leaving directory `/tmp/vmware-root/modules/vmmon-only' [master 1f5151f] saving uncommitted changes in /etc prior to yum run 1 files changed, 29 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) create mode 100644 yum.repos.d/fedora-15.repo Aktualisieren : glibc-common-2.14-1.x86_64 1/24 Aktualisieren : glibc-2.14-1.x86_64 2/24 Error: Cannot open file kernel-headers-2.6.38.8-31.fc15.x86_64.rpm: [Errno 2] Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden: 'kernel-headers-2.6.38.8-31.fc15.x86_64.rpm' TypeError: an integer is required Fehler: Python-Callbackbound method RPMTransaction.callback ofyum.rpmtrans.RPMTransaction instance at 0x43bcab8 fehlgeschlagen, abbrechen! [root@rh:/downloads]$ rpm -Uvh --force *.rpm Warnung: libdrm-2.4.25-1.fc15.x86_64.rpm: Header V3 RSA/SHA256 Signature, Schlüssel-ID 069c8460: NOKEY Vorbereiten... ### [100%] 1:glibc-common ### [ 8%] 2:glibc ### [ 15%] Fehler: Öffnen von xorg-x11-server-common-1.10.1-14.fc15.x86_64.rpm fehlgeschlagen: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden Fehler: Öffnen von linux-firmware-20110601-1.fc15.noarch.rpm fehlgeschlagen: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden Fehler: Öffnen von kernel-headers-2.6.38.8-31.fc15.x86_64.rpm fehlgeschlagen: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden Fehler: Öffnen von glibc-headers-2.14-1.x86_64.rpm fehlgeschlagen: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden Fehler: Öffnen von glibc-devel-2.14-1.x86_64.rpm fehlgeschlagen: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden Fehler: Öffnen von kernel-devel-2.6.38.8-31.fc15.x86_64.rpm fehlgeschlagen: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden Fehler: Öffnen von kernel-2.6.38.8-31.fc15.x86_64.rpm fehlgeschlagen: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden Fehler: Öffnen von libdrm-2.4.25-1.fc15.x86_64.rpm fehlgeschlagen: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden Fehler: Öffnen von xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.10.1-14.fc15.x86_64.rpm fehlgeschlagen: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden Fehler: Öffnen von xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.14.0-6.fc15.x86_64.rpm fehlgeschlagen: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden Fehler: Öffnen von xorg-x11-drv-nouveau-0.0.16-24.20110324git8378443.fc15.x86_64.rpm fehlgeschlagen: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden Wait a second, have you enable Fedora 15 repository? If you did, yum should find all dependences in there without your help. You need just type yum update xorg-x11-drv-intel. Everything should be there. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora 14 and Sandy Bridge graphics
Am 12.06.2011 20:07, schrieb Lucas: On 06/12/2011 10:02 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 12.06.2011 19:28, schrieb Lucas: Strange, I did exactly the same thing with Fedora 14, I add new kernel, changed xorg and intel driver. But I have i686. mhh - strange - an trying to update glibc results in chaos Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden means file not found in english yes as advanced user i was able to repair this with some luck updating only the kernel/kernel-headers/kernel-devel results in no longer able to build kernel-modules (vmware-workstation) and this all for a graphics-driver? i remember times where feodra updated the kernel in the lifetime of a supported release and now you can do nothing if you do not want replace of upstart by systemd, if systemd would not be hardly activated in F15 a dist-upgrade would be no problem BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT scripts/basic/fixdep: /lib64/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.14' not found (required by scripts/basic/fixdep) make[2]: *** [/tmp/vmware-root/modules/vmmon-only/linux/driverLog.o] Fehler 1 make[1]: *** [_module_/tmp/vmware-root/modules/vmmon-only] Fehler 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernels/2.6.38.8-31.fc15.x86_64' make: *** [vmmon.ko] Fehler 2 make: Leaving directory `/tmp/vmware-root/modules/vmmon-only' [master 1f5151f] saving uncommitted changes in /etc prior to yum run 1 files changed, 29 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) create mode 100644 yum.repos.d/fedora-15.repo Aktualisieren : glibc-common-2.14-1.x86_64 1/24 Aktualisieren : glibc-2.14-1.x86_64 2/24 Error: Cannot open file kernel-headers-2.6.38.8-31.fc15.x86_64.rpm: [Errno 2] Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden: 'kernel-headers-2.6.38.8-31.fc15.x86_64.rpm' TypeError: an integer is required Fehler: Python-Callbackbound method RPMTransaction.callback ofyum.rpmtrans.RPMTransaction instance at 0x43bcab8 fehlgeschlagen, abbrechen! [root@rh:/downloads]$ rpm -Uvh --force *.rpm Warnung: libdrm-2.4.25-1.fc15.x86_64.rpm: Header V3 RSA/SHA256 Signature, Schlüssel-ID 069c8460: NOKEY Vorbereiten... ### [100%] 1:glibc-common ### [ 8%] 2:glibc ### [ 15%] Fehler: Öffnen von xorg-x11-server-common-1.10.1-14.fc15.x86_64.rpm fehlgeschlagen: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden Fehler: Öffnen von linux-firmware-20110601-1.fc15.noarch.rpm fehlgeschlagen: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden Fehler: Öffnen von kernel-headers-2.6.38.8-31.fc15.x86_64.rpm fehlgeschlagen: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden Fehler: Öffnen von glibc-headers-2.14-1.x86_64.rpm fehlgeschlagen: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden Fehler: Öffnen von glibc-devel-2.14-1.x86_64.rpm fehlgeschlagen: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden Fehler: Öffnen von kernel-devel-2.6.38.8-31.fc15.x86_64.rpm fehlgeschlagen: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden Fehler: Öffnen von kernel-2.6.38.8-31.fc15.x86_64.rpm fehlgeschlagen: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden Fehler: Öffnen von libdrm-2.4.25-1.fc15.x86_64.rpm fehlgeschlagen: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden Fehler: Öffnen von xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.10.1-14.fc15.x86_64.rpm fehlgeschlagen: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden Fehler: Öffnen von xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.14.0-6.fc15.x86_64.rpm fehlgeschlagen: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden Fehler: Öffnen von xorg-x11-drv-nouveau-0.0.16-24.20110324git8378443.fc15.x86_64.rpm fehlgeschlagen: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden Wait a second, have you enable Fedora 15 repository? If you did, yum should find all dependences in there without your help. You need just type yum update xorg-x11-drv-intel. Everything should be there. i am not an idiot this does nothing change in the dependency of F15-GLIBC which seems to be a really bad idea on a F14 system and after running only the F15-Kernel you will not upgrade the other packages Gesamte Downloadgrösse: 1.7 M Ist dies in Ordnung? [j/N] :j Lade Pakete herunter: Setting up and reading Presto delta metadata fedora-15/prestodelta | 2.5 MB 00:01 Processing delta metadata Package(s) data still to download: 1.7 M (1/4): libdrm-2.4.25-1.fc15.x86_64.rpm | 69 kB 00:00 (2/4): xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.14.0-6.fc15.x86_64.rpm | 201 kB 00:00 (3/4): xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.10.1-14.fc15.x86_64.rpm | 1.4 MB 00:01 (4/4): xorg-x11-server-common-1.10.1-14.fc15.x86_64.rpm | 76 kB 00:00 --
Re: Fedora 14 and Sandy Bridge graphics
On 06/12/2011 12:00 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: is there any clean way to get newer intel-graphics drivers on fedora 14? performance is horrible and under kde the desktop often hangs for some seconds this is nothing i would expect with http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=52213 I have done this and its working - I've used rawhide with 2.6.39 kernel and also F15. See my comments below. I'll describe what you need to do using subset of F15. You need newer kernel, xorg* and mesa*. If you pull these from f15 you'll find that the compiler has changed - and you will need a newer compiler - which is fine. You'll also need - as you discovered newer glibc - which is also fine. Back up your system - and then do this: yum --releasever=15 install kernel* xorg* mesa* perf* You'll need to so something like: yum --releasever=15 update kernel* xorg* mesa* perf* yum update to do your updates so you keep picking up just the F15 pieces you need. For me I could not boot the F14 install DVD at all - so I made my own DVD using F14 plus all the pieces frmo F15 which yum tells you you need to satisfy the above. The F15 kernel still seems to have a problem with the rhgb for me using i915 (hardware has nvidia optiumus with nvidia turned off) - a bug which has popped up now and again since 2007 - it seems not to be a problem with 2.6.39 and later kernels - but you wont find a 2.6.39 in koji or rawhide at the moment. (Bug is in rhgb best I can tell) So remove the rhgb out of the kernel line in /boot/grub/grub.conf for the new f15 kernel you installed. The sympton if you dont is machine hangs when it flips rhgb after plymouth has done its thing ... if you look in you /var/log/Xorg.0.log you'll see something like: Xf860OpenConsole: VT_WAITINACTIVE_FAILED: Interrupted system call THe work around is avoidning rhgb for now ... Once kernel-3.0 has settled - that is likely your best bet. I have this working using F15 but am planning to move to 3.0 kernel as soon as its settled down a bit - you'll find the fedora team working hard to get a decent 3.0 kernel in koji. regards gene/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora 14 and Sandy Bridge graphics
Am 13.06.2011 01:54, schrieb Genes MailLists: On 06/12/2011 12:00 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: is there any clean way to get newer intel-graphics drivers on fedora 14? performance is horrible and under kde the desktop often hangs for some seconds this is nothing i would expect with http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=52213 I have done this and its working - I've used rawhide with 2.6.39 kernel and also F15. See my comments below. I'll describe what you need to do using subset of F15. this forces a GLIBC-Upgrade, see my others posts You need newer kernel, xorg* and mesa*. and GLIBC from F15 on F14 this does not work If you pull these from f15 you'll find that the compiler has changed - and you will need a newer compiler - which is fine. You'll also need - as you discovered newer glibc - which is also fine. Back up your system - and then do this: yum --releasever=15 install kernel* xorg* mesa* perf* You'll need to so something like: yum --releasever=15 update kernel* xorg* mesa* perf* yum update to do your updates so you keep picking up just the F15 pieces you need this means change the whole core-system to an undefined state in the worst case this will damage your whole setup or future-security-updates are not possible if dependencies are changing again signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora 14 and Sandy Bridge graphics
On 06/12/2011 07:59 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: I have done this and its working - I've used rawhide with 2.6.39 kernel and also F15. See my comments below. I'll describe what you need to do using subset of F15. this forces a GLIBC-Upgrade, see my others posts Yes - I said the same thing below and its needed for good reason - and the newer glibc provides everything needed by the older other f14 binaries - and its fine. You need newer kernel, xorg* and mesa*. and GLIBC from F15 on F14 this does not work It is working for me .. sorry it isn't for you. this means change the whole core-system to an undefined state in the worst case this will damage your whole setup or future-security-updates are not possible if dependencies are changing again It is a perfectly defined state - don't be confused - it is F14 plus some updates. I also showed exactly how to do all updates on an ongoing basis to keep it updated and get all security updates - and keep things in a perfectly defined state ... it is working for me .. Perhaps this is not the way for you if you find it confusing ... my suggestion then is deal with systemd and its bugs/quirks or perhaps install F15 and replace systemd with upstart - that should work the same as f14 + a few f15 packages. Do whatever works for you ... you could try even the new ubuntu if its mesa and xorg are enough up to date. good luck! -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora 14 and Sandy Bridge graphics
Am 13.06.2011 02:29, schrieb Genes MailLists: Perhaps this is not the way for you if you find it confusing ... my suggestion then is deal with systemd and its bugs/quirks or perhaps install F15 and replace systemd with upstart - that should work the same as f14 + a few f15 packages. you should read the thread! i am not able to upgrade to F15 GLIBC without destroy the whole system because yYUM and RPM are stopping after two of 5 GLIBC-packages and only because i am using fedora/yum/rpm since many years the whole setup has not died this way! Do whatever works for you ... you could try even the new ubuntu if its mesa and xorg are enough up to date. *loool* show me how to switch a total amount of 24 steups to another distribution and after the year of work this means some idiot there is breaking some core-component and you will jump to the next? i am using Feodra since NINE releases and now i have the first time really troubles and finally someone tell me the fault is not what Fedora did with F15? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora 14 and Sandy Bridge graphics
On 06/12/2011 08:40 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 13.06.2011 02:29, schrieb Genes MailLists: Perhaps this is not the way for you if you find it confusing ... my suggestion then is deal with systemd and its bugs/quirks or perhaps install F15 and replace systemd with upstart - that should work the same as f14 + a few f15 packages. you should read the thread! I read the thread - you did not do what I suggested - you did something different ... be that as it may ... I have done this both as an update as an install from a DVD built using mock/pungi which contains F14 fully updated + all the f15 rpm's needed to satisfy the packages I put in my first email. I hear your pain - there is a reason many I know have moved away from F15 - anyway - I have sandy bridge running, as I said,using fully updated F14 + selected packages from F15. YYour hardware may be different - so you may need different things. Good luck. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
