Re: Fedora 18 feature processing?
On 03/05/2012 05:54 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Panu Matilainen pmati...@laiskiainen.org wrote: Hey, I'm wondering whether there's some kind of disconnect in the feature process at the moment: In order to avoid the kind of last-minute inclusion craze that everybody hates, we decided to postpone rpm-4.10 for F18 and hoped to get a pre-release version into rawhide right after branching F17, but it's been almost a month now since filing the feature (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/RPM4.10) ready for wrangler, with no signs of activity from the wrangler to pass it on to FESCo (or request corrections) that I can see. Any idea what's up here? Lots of people are understandably busy with F17 preparations at this point, but now would also be the perfect time to start introducing features deemed for F18 into rawhide, rather than day before feature freeze. I'd rather have my feature done and dealt with well before F18 alpha even appears on the horizon. I don't think you need to wait for the Feature wrangler here. Just commit it to the master branch and build for F18. It's not like kernel, gcc, and glibc upgrades sit around waiting on a Feature page to get looked at. Unless there is something that requires a large coordination with other packages, I think you're good. Well, that'd be just fine with me, I've just been trying to play by the book. If it's ok for *some* features to proceed without prior acceptance then perhaps the policy should be clarified on that. - Panu - -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Fedora 18 feature processing?
Hey, I'm wondering whether there's some kind of disconnect in the feature process at the moment: In order to avoid the kind of last-minute inclusion craze that everybody hates, we decided to postpone rpm-4.10 for F18 and hoped to get a pre-release version into rawhide right after branching F17, but it's been almost a month now since filing the feature (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/RPM4.10) ready for wrangler, with no signs of activity from the wrangler to pass it on to FESCo (or request corrections) that I can see. Any idea what's up here? Lots of people are understandably busy with F17 preparations at this point, but now would also be the perfect time to start introducing features deemed for F18 into rawhide, rather than day before feature freeze. I'd rather have my feature done and dealt with well before F18 alpha even appears on the horizon. - Panu - -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora 18 feature processing?
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Panu Matilainen pmati...@laiskiainen.org wrote: Hey, I'm wondering whether there's some kind of disconnect in the feature process at the moment: In order to avoid the kind of last-minute inclusion craze that everybody hates, we decided to postpone rpm-4.10 for F18 and hoped to get a pre-release version into rawhide right after branching F17, but it's been almost a month now since filing the feature (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/RPM4.10) ready for wrangler, with no signs of activity from the wrangler to pass it on to FESCo (or request corrections) that I can see. Any idea what's up here? Lots of people are understandably busy with F17 preparations at this point, but now would also be the perfect time to start introducing features deemed for F18 into rawhide, rather than day before feature freeze. I'd rather have my feature done and dealt with well before F18 alpha even appears on the horizon. I don't think you need to wait for the Feature wrangler here. Just commit it to the master branch and build for F18. It's not like kernel, gcc, and glibc upgrades sit around waiting on a Feature page to get looked at. Unless there is something that requires a large coordination with other packages, I think you're good. josh -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora 18 feature processing?
On 03/05/2012 07:54 AM, Josh Boyer wrote: On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Panu Matilainen pmati...@laiskiainen.org wrote: Hey, I'm wondering whether there's some kind of disconnect in the feature process at the moment: In order to avoid the kind of last-minute inclusion craze that everybody hates, we decided to postpone rpm-4.10 for F18 and hoped to get a pre-release version into rawhide right after branching F17, but it's been almost a month now since filing the feature (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/RPM4.10) ready for wrangler, with no signs of activity from the wrangler to pass it on to FESCo (or request corrections) that I can see. Any idea what's up here? Lots of people are understandably busy with F17 preparations at this point, but now would also be the perfect time to start introducing features deemed for F18 into rawhide, rather than day before feature freeze. I'd rather have my feature done and dealt with well before F18 alpha even appears on the horizon. Sorry, your feature wrangler has been slightly preoccupied. :) I'll get the existing wrangler submissions reviewed/submitted for next week's FESCo meeting. I don't think you need to wait for the Feature wrangler here. Just commit it to the master branch and build for F18. It's not like kernel, gcc, and glibc upgrades sit around waiting on a Feature page to get looked at. Unless there is something that requires a large coordination with other packages, I think you're good. josh -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora 18 feature processing?
On 03/05/2012 08:14 PM, Robyn Bergeron wrote: On 03/05/2012 07:54 AM, Josh Boyer wrote: On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Panu Matilainen pmati...@laiskiainen.org wrote: Hey, I'm wondering whether there's some kind of disconnect in the feature process at the moment: In order to avoid the kind of last-minute inclusion craze that everybody hates, we decided to postpone rpm-4.10 for F18 and hoped to get a pre-release version into rawhide right after branching F17, but it's been almost a month now since filing the feature (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/RPM4.10) ready for wrangler, with no signs of activity from the wrangler to pass it on to FESCo (or request corrections) that I can see. Any idea what's up here? Lots of people are understandably busy with F17 preparations at this point, but now would also be the perfect time to start introducing features deemed for F18 into rawhide, rather than day before feature freeze. I'd rather have my feature done and dealt with well before F18 alpha even appears on the horizon. Sorry, your feature wrangler has been slightly preoccupied. :) Oh, no worries, so have I and it's not at all clear whether I would've had time to get things rolling by before now even if the feature had been already processed. I had no idea what kind of entity the wrangler is :) Since it's just a single person, perhaps there should be a backup wrangler? I mean, we all get preoccupied every now and then, go on vacations etc. I'll get the existing wrangler submissions reviewed/submitted for next week's FESCo meeting. Ack, thanks. - Panu - -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
