The current target is the early target date (18 April).
Action summary
Accepted blockers
-
1. shim — Live image made with BOOTX64.EFI from latest shim-x64-15.6-2
fails to boot on some boards — NEW
ACTION: kernel upstream to merge NX support
Proposed
The current target is the early target date (18 April).
Action summary
Accepted blockers
-
1. kernel — anaconda failed to detect the fcoe target(only affects ixgbe) — NEW
ACTION: Maintainers to diagnose issue
NEEDINFO: lnie
2. plasma-workspace — Logging out
On Fri, Mar 24, 2023 at 02:25:46PM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote:
> 3. kernel — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2176782 — POST
> The kernel sometimes does not initialize SimpleDRM when booting in
> basic graphics mode on BIOS, causing SDDM to fail
>
> In BIOS mode only, sddm results in a
The current target is the early target date (18 April).
Action summary
Accepted blockers
-
1. crypto-policies — Insecure installed RPMs (like Google Chrome)
prevent system updates in F38, can't be removed — ASSIGNED
ACTION: Maintainers to propose solution
The current target is the early target date (18 April).
Action summary
Accepted blockers
-
1. fcoe-utils — anaconda failed to detect the fcoe target(only affects
ixgbe) — NEW
ACTION: Maintainer to diagnose issue
NEEDINFO: cleech
2. gnome-calendar — After a
F38 Beta is go, so it's time to look at final blockers. The current
target is the early target date (18 April).
Action summary
Accepted blockers
-
1. fcoe-utils — anaconda failed to detect the fcoe target(only affects
ixgbe) — NEW
ACTION: Maintainer to
On Fri, Mar 03, 2023 at 04:02:43PM -0500, Stephen Smoogen wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Mar 2023 at 15:56, Ben Cotton wrote:
> > 2. crypto-policies — Insecure installed RPMs (like Google Chrome)
> > prevent system updates in F38, can't be removed — NEW
> > ACTION: Upstream to implement MR #129
> >
> >
> >
On Fri, 3 Mar 2023 at 15:56, Ben Cotton wrote:
> The current target release date is the early target date (2023-03-14).
> The Go/No-Go meeting will be Thursday!
>
> Action summary
>
>
> Accepted blockers
> -
>
> 1. distribution — Workstation boot x86_64 image
The current target release date is the early target date (2023-03-14).
The Go/No-Go meeting will be Thursday!
Action summary
Accepted blockers
-
1. distribution — Workstation boot x86_64 image exceeds maximum size — POST
ACTION: gdb maintainers to remove the
The current target release date is the early target date (2023-03-14).
Action summary
Accepted blockers
-
1. distribution — Workstation boot x86_64 image exceeds maximum size — ASSIGNED
ACTION: Workstation WG to reduce image size or increase the limit
2.
On Fri, 2023-02-17 at 14:45 -0500, Ben Cotton wrote:
> The F38 Beta freeze begins on 21 February. The current target release
> date is the early target date (2023-03-14).
>
> Action summary
>
>
> Accepted blockers
> -
>
> 1. distribution — Workstation boot
The F38 Beta freeze begins on 21 February. The current target release
date is the early target date (2023-03-14).
Action summary
Accepted blockers
-
1. distribution — Workstation boot x86_64 image exceeds maximum size — ASSIGNED
ACTION: Workstation WG to
Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Tue, 2023-02-14 at 16:44 +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
>> Peter Robinson wrote:
>> > It was decided years ago that all desktops would have some Fedora
>> > similarities, backgrounds, browser etc.
>>
>> If and when that was decided, that was without involving
On Tue, 2023-02-14 at 16:44 +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
> Peter Robinson wrote:
> > It was decided years ago that all desktops would have some Fedora
> > similarities, backgrounds, browser etc.
>
> If and when that was decided, that was without involving the maintainers of
> the Spins.
On Friday, 10 February 2023 15:11:19 CET Marc Deop i Argemí wrote:
> On Friday, 10 February 2023 14:47:19 CET Ben Cotton wrote:
>
> > 3. kwin — kwin_wayland often crashed when used as the sddm Wayland
> > compositor and logging out of Plasma resulting in a black screen — NEW
> > ACTION:
Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> As a browser maintainer itself, I'm very supportive of the Falkon
> project. I consider it to be KDE's equivalent of Epiphany, sort of a
> sister project, more or less.
Agreed. I also think that the "Workstation Edition" should be shipping
Epiphany instead of Firefox
Peter Robinson wrote:
> It was decided years ago that all desktops would have some Fedora
> similarities, backgrounds, browser etc.
If and when that was decided, that was without involving the maintainers of
the Spins. I know because I was directly involved with maintaining the KDE
Spin at the
As a browser maintainer itself, I'm very supportive of the Falkon
project. I consider it to be KDE's equivalent of Epiphany, sort of a
sister project, more or less.
On Tue, Feb 14 2023 at 03:44:06 AM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel
wrote:
Even Qt 5 QtWebEngine (considered obsolete by Qt) still
On Mon, 2023-02-13 at 15:09 -0500, Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 1:56 PM Kevin Kofler via devel
> wrote:
> >
> > Stephen Smoogen wrote:
> > > I did a check on some.. I only downloaded 3 isos so this isn't a
> > > complete
> > > set.
> >
> > I think trying to track down 11 to 16
On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 2:25 AM Kevin Kofler via devel
wrote:
>
> Neal Gompa wrote:
> > We're not getting rid of Firefox.
>
> At least that is an answer, unlike the complete radio silence on:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1920298
>
> Still does not explain why Firefox has to be
Demi Marie Obenour wrote:
> And is kept up to date, unlike QtWebEngine. QtWebEngine is invariably
> behind on security patches. I blame Google for not making embedded
> Chromium a first-class citizen.
Qt backports security fixes to its stable branches, a service Google is not
offering by
Neal Gompa wrote:
> We're not getting rid of Firefox.
At least that is an answer, unlike the complete radio silence on:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1920298
Still does not explain why Firefox has to be the default though.
But the thing is, this inevitably leads to:
*
On 2/13/23 16:10, Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 4:00 PM Kevin Kofler via devel
> wrote:
>>
>> Neal Gompa wrote:
>>> FYI, if the GTK-based Anaconda UI goes away, the KDE variants probably
>>> ship a thin QtWebEngine wrapper or use Firefox instead for the
>>> web-based UI. No reason
On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 4:00 PM Kevin Kofler via devel
wrote:
>
> Neal Gompa wrote:
> > FYI, if the GTK-based Anaconda UI goes away, the KDE variants probably
> > ship a thin QtWebEngine wrapper or use Firefox instead for the
> > web-based UI. No reason to depend on WebKitGTK for this.
>
> Well,
On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 at 15:56, Kevin Kofler via devel <
devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> Stephen Smoogen wrote:
> > The following is from the F38 image from last week?
> >
> > dnf remove qt5-qtwebengine
> > Error:
> > Problem: The operation would result in removing the following protected
Neal Gompa wrote:
> FYI, if the GTK-based Anaconda UI goes away, the KDE variants probably
> ship a thin QtWebEngine wrapper or use Firefox instead for the
> web-based UI. No reason to depend on WebKitGTK for this.
Well, the way the Anaconda web UI is currently packaged, it hardcodes a
Stephen Smoogen wrote:
> The following is from the F38 image from last week?
>
> dnf remove qt5-qtwebengine
> Error:
> Problem: The operation would result in removing the following protected
> packages: plasma-desktop
QtWebEngine is the native web engine of the KDE desktop and the one that
On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 1:56 PM Kevin Kofler via devel
wrote:
>
> Stephen Smoogen wrote:
> > I did a check on some.. I only downloaded 3 isos so this isn't a complete
> > set.
>
> I think trying to track down 11 to 16 years of creeping bloat now is pretty
> much a lost cause, but one thing I
On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 at 13:56, Kevin Kofler via devel <
devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> Stephen Smoogen wrote:
> > I did a check on some.. I only downloaded 3 isos so this isn't a complete
> > set.
>
>
>
> As for qt5-qtwebkit, I am not sure what dragged this in on F33. We have
> been
>
Stephen Smoogen wrote:
> I did a check on some.. I only downloaded 3 isos so this isn't a complete
> set.
I think trying to track down 11 to 16 years of creeping bloat now is pretty
much a lost cause, but one thing I notice:
> The 20 largest packages on 33 is:
[snip]
> 47955205 qt5-qtwebkit
>
On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 at 11:28, Kevin Kofler via devel <
devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
> > We need to be much stricter on size increases! In Fedora 9 (when the xz
> > compression for live images was introduced, which made it smaller than
> > Fedora 7 or 8),
On Sat, 2023-02-11 at 18:38 +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
> Ben Cotton wrote:
> > 1–3. distribution — {Workstation,Everything,Server} boot x86_64 image
> > exceeds maximum size — ASSIGNED
>
> Let me guess, this is from the -fno-omit-frame-pointers Change? I have been
> asking for data on
Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
> We need to be much stricter on size increases! In Fedora 9 (when the xz
> compression for live images was introduced, which made it smaller than
> Fedora 7 or 8), the x86_64 KDE Spin was 729272320 bytes.
I have to correct myself: Fedora 9 was not where xz was
Chris Adams wrote:
> Can you stop grinding your axe against a decision you don't agree with?
> You're just "guessing" with zero evidence.
I have also seen zero evidence of the contrary (i.e., that the size change
is *not* significant), which should have been a prerequisite for accepting
the
Dne 11. 02. 23 v 18:53 Chris Adams napsal(a):
Once upon a time, Kevin Kofler via devel said:
Ben Cotton wrote:
1–3. distribution — {Workstation,Everything,Server} boot x86_64 image
exceeds maximum size — ASSIGNED
Let me guess, this is from the -fno-omit-frame-pointers Change? I have been
On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 5:52 PM Adam Williamson wrote:
>
> On Fri, 2023-02-10 at 08:47 -0500, Ben Cotton wrote:
> >
> > Accepted blockers
> > -
> >
> > 1–3. distribution — {Workstation,Everything,Server} boot x86_64 image
> > exceeds maximum size — ASSIGNED
> > ACTION: Relevant
Once upon a time, Kevin Kofler via devel said:
> Ben Cotton wrote:
> > 1–3. distribution — {Workstation,Everything,Server} boot x86_64 image
> > exceeds maximum size — ASSIGNED
>
> Let me guess, this is from the -fno-omit-frame-pointers Change? I have been
> asking for data on the size impact
Ben Cotton wrote:
> 1–3. distribution — {Workstation,Everything,Server} boot x86_64 image
> exceeds maximum size — ASSIGNED
Let me guess, this is from the -fno-omit-frame-pointers Change? I have been
asking for data on the size impact and I have been completely ignored both
by the Change owners
On Fri, 2023-02-10 at 08:47 -0500, Ben Cotton wrote:
>
> Accepted blockers
> -
>
> 1–3. distribution — {Workstation,Everything,Server} boot x86_64 image
> exceeds maximum size — ASSIGNED
> ACTION: Relevant Teams to reduce image size or increase the limit
>
> Accepted blockers
>
On Friday, 10 February 2023 14:47:19 CET Ben Cotton wrote:
> 3. kwin — kwin_wayland often crashed when used as the sddm Wayland
> compositor and logging out of Plasma resulting in a black screen — NEW
> ACTION: Maintainer to diagnose issue
Before spending any significant amount of time on this,
We've branched F38 from Rawhide, so it's time to start everyone's
favorite Friday email from Ben! The F38 Beta freeze begins on 21
February. The current target release date is the early target date
(2023-03-14).
Action summary
Accepted blockers
-
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