Re: Fight bugs, not FESCo

2010-03-06 Thread Frank Murphy
On 06/03/10 10:04, Till Maas wrote: --snipped-- DB) 3) once a day a crawler reads all files and counts for each package how often they are installed, What about uninstalled? Update bring in upd to X, but package Y,Z. come in. User removes Y,Z without breaking anything. I am not really

Re: Fight bugs, not FESCo

2010-03-06 Thread Till Maas
On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 11:19:27AM +, Frank Murphy wrote: On 06/03/10 10:04, Till Maas wrote: --snipped-- DB) 3) once a day a crawler reads all files and counts for each package how often they are installed, What about uninstalled? Update bring in upd to X, but package Y,Z.

Re: Fight bugs, not FESCo

2010-03-05 Thread Mike McGrath
On Sat, 6 Mar 2010, Till Maas wrote: On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 10:42:32AM -0600, Mike McGrath wrote: It looks like popcon has like 93000 profiles? Smolt has 1.8 million [1] and even at that level without package data we have horrible performance issues. If I were to add packages with my

Fight bugs, not FESCo

2010-03-01 Thread Aaron Faanes
tl;dr version: Empower, rather than restrict, maintainers. Encourage them to test by increasing test accuracy, coverage, unique configurations, and visibility. I don't think FESCo wishes to destroy the freedom of package maintainers. I also don't think package maintainers want to release broken

Re: Fight bugs, not FESCo

2010-03-01 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 03:48:15PM +0100, Thomas Janssen wrote: On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Aaron Faanes dafr...@gmail.com wrote: I agree to almost everything you wrote. snip - Allow maintainers to see number of downloads by users who have opted-in to share that data. If not number,

Re: Fight bugs, not FESCo

2010-03-01 Thread Frank Ch. Eigler
Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to writes: A couple of problems. Which packages are downloaded from mirrors is not currently available to Fedora. [...] Would it be crazy to reorganize the mirror system in such a way that normally download http requests come to fedoraproject.org, but are redirected

Re: Fight bugs, not FESCo

2010-03-01 Thread Thomas Janssen
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 4:59 PM, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 03:57:11PM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 03:48:15PM +0100, Thomas Janssen wrote: On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Aaron Faanes dafr...@gmail.com wrote: I agree to

Re: Fight bugs, not FESCo

2010-03-01 Thread Kevin Fenzi
For anyone who wants to attempt this, there is a very basic and seemingly abandonded popcon for rpm written in perl for opensuse at: http://gitorious.org/opensuse/popcorn (although gitorious.org seems down right now from here). I agree with Mike that you would really need to figure out a