Re: GNOME 3.30.0 megaupdate

2018-09-11 Thread Kalev Lember
On 09/08/2018 07:43 AM, Kalev Lember wrote: OK, builds done and the 3.30.0 megaupdate is in Bodhi now and queued for updates-testing: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2018-85d637c544 Just as a quick heads up, this was accepted as a Freeze Exception in yesterday's blocker review m

Re: GNOME 3.30.0 megaupdate

2018-09-08 Thread Kalev Lember
vte and gnome-terminal have a bunch of downstream patches and require special handling because of that. Rishi is fixing them and they are coming later as well. Kalev On Sat, Sep 8, 2018, 12:55 Igor Gnatenko wrote: > What about gnome-terminal & vte291? They seem to be stuck on 2.28 release. > >

Re: GNOME 3.30.0 megaupdate

2018-09-08 Thread Igor Gnatenko
What about gnome-terminal & vte291? They seem to be stuck on 2.28 release. On Sat, Sep 8, 2018 at 12:45 PM Kalev Lember wrote: > On Sat, Sep 8, 2018, 12:06 Fabio Valentini wrote: > >> On Sat, Sep 8, 2018 at 7:44 AM Kalev Lember >> wrote: >> > >> > OK, builds done and the 3.30.0 megaupdate is i

Re: GNOME 3.30.0 megaupdate

2018-09-08 Thread Kalev Lember
On Sat, Sep 8, 2018, 12:06 Fabio Valentini wrote: > On Sat, Sep 8, 2018 at 7:44 AM Kalev Lember wrote: > > > > OK, builds done and the 3.30.0 megaupdate is in Bodhi now and queued for > > updates-testing: > > > > https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2018-85d637c544 > > > > -- > > Kalev

Re: GNOME 3.30.0 megaupdate

2018-09-08 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Sat, Sep 8, 2018 at 7:44 AM Kalev Lember wrote: > > OK, builds done and the 3.30.0 megaupdate is in Bodhi now and queued for > updates-testing: > > https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2018-85d637c544 > > -- > Kalev Are gjs 3.30 and mozjs60 missing from the megaupdate on purpose, or

Re: GNOME 3.30.0 megaupdate

2018-09-07 Thread Kalev Lember
OK, builds done and the 3.30.0 megaupdate is in Bodhi now and queued for updates-testing: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2018-85d637c544 -- Kalev ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to de

Re: GNOME 3.30.0 megaupdate

2018-09-06 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Sep 06, 2018 at 07:17:29PM -0400, Gerald Henriksen wrote: > >Uh, to be clear here: you do know that 3.29 is the development series > >for 3.30, right? It's not a sudden major release jump. Effectively what > >we have right now is more or less 3.30 rc0-and-a-bit; the proposal is > >to go fro

Re: GNOME 3.30.0 megaupdate

2018-09-06 Thread Gerald Henriksen
On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 11:33:20 -0700, you wrote: >On Thu, 2018-09-06 at 10:41 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: >> Fedora folks have been testing 3.29 for weeks now. Fedora people >> haven't been testing 3.30 because it's not really available to test. >> So I think it's reasonable for a GNOME specific chan

Re: GNOME 3.30.0 megaupdate

2018-09-06 Thread Peter Robinson
> On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 12:33 PM, Adam Williamson > wrote: > > On Thu, 2018-09-06 at 10:41 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > >> Fedora folks have been testing 3.29 for weeks now. Fedora people > >> haven't been testing 3.30 because it's not really available to test. > >> So I think it's reasonable for

Re: GNOME 3.30.0 megaupdate

2018-09-06 Thread Chris Murphy
On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 12:33 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2018-09-06 at 10:41 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: >> Fedora folks have been testing 3.29 for weeks now. Fedora people >> haven't been testing 3.30 because it's not really available to test. >> So I think it's reasonable for a GNOME spe

Re: GNOME 3.30.0 megaupdate

2018-09-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2018-09-06 at 20:42 +0200, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > > Also, Fedora is much more than Workstation now. There is server, > cloud, and other editions. We shouldn't circumvent our processes for > some collection of packages important for one edition only. There's no 'circumvention' being discu

Re: GNOME 3.30.0 megaupdate

2018-09-06 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Wed, Sep 05, 2018 at 01:21:52PM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 12:56 PM Tomasz Torcz wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 05, 2018 at 10:15:26PM +0530, Parag Nemade wrote: > > > > > > > > I'd be *strongly* disinclined to give a Freeze Exception for a GNOME > > > > mega-update. Th

Re: GNOME 3.30.0 megaupdate

2018-09-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2018-09-06 at 10:41 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > Fedora folks have been testing 3.29 for weeks now. Fedora people > haven't been testing 3.30 because it's not really available to test. > So I think it's reasonable for a GNOME specific change to explicitly > state a request and expectation f

Re: GNOME 3.30.0 megaupdate

2018-09-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2018-09-06 at 10:13 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 6:59 PM, Adam Williamson > wrote: > > On Wed, 2018-09-05 at 12:14 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > My opinion, since there are few facts to go on to overcome the burden > > > stated in a written process and schedule fo

Re: GNOME 3.30.0 megaupdate

2018-09-06 Thread Chris Murphy
On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 9:01 AM, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > > - Original Message - >> On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 9:04 AM, Kalev Lember wrote: >> >> >> > Dunno what to do wrt the ongoing freeze and getting final 3.30 in F29 >> > Beta, I guess it may be too late for that. Any opinions from QA her

Re: GNOME 3.30.0 megaupdate

2018-09-06 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 at 11:02, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > > > - Original Message - > > On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 9:04 AM, Kalev Lember wrote: > > > > > > > Dunno what to do wrt the ongoing freeze and getting final 3.30 in F29 > > > Beta, I guess it may be too late for that. Any opinions from QA

Re: GNOME 3.30.0 megaupdate

2018-09-06 Thread Chris Murphy
On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 6:59 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2018-09-05 at 12:14 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: >> My opinion, since there are few facts to go on to overcome the burden >> stated in a written process and schedule for some time, is -1 FE. If >> it was important enough to get 3.30 o

Re: GNOME 3.30.0 megaupdate

2018-09-06 Thread Bastien Nocera
- Original Message - > On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 9:04 AM, Kalev Lember wrote: > > > > Dunno what to do wrt the ongoing freeze and getting final 3.30 in F29 > > Beta, I guess it may be too late for that. Any opinions from QA here? > > > If 3.29 is not what GNOME folks had ever wanted to

Re: GNOME 3.30.0 megaupdate

2018-09-06 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Sep 05, 2018 at 04:47:32PM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 1:50 PM Matthew Miller > wrote: > > > We used to always have a Change submitted for the GNOME update, but that > > stopped, I assume because it felt like kind of rote bureaucracy rather than > > helpful, since i

Re: GNOME 3.30.0 megaupdate

2018-09-05 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 6.9.2018 v 01:59 Matthew Miller napsal(a): > On Wed, Sep 05, 2018 at 04:47:32PM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: >> I'd be open to a "shortcut" version of the Change process that >> essentially says "hey, we're doing this again". But this way we'd get >> visibility across teams and externally. For be

Re: GNOME 3.30.0 megaupdate

2018-09-05 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2018-09-05 at 12:14 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 9:04 AM, Kalev Lember wrote: > > > > Dunno what to do wrt the ongoing freeze and getting final 3.30 in F29 > > Beta, I guess it may be too late for that. Any opinions from QA here? > > If 3.29 is not what GNOME folk

Re: GNOME 3.30.0 megaupdate

2018-09-05 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Sep 05, 2018 at 04:47:32PM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > I'd be open to a "shortcut" version of the Change process that > essentially says "hey, we're doing this again". But this way we'd get > visibility across teams and externally. For better or for worse, our > Change list is a starting poi

Re: GNOME 3.30.0 megaupdate

2018-09-05 Thread Ben Cotton
On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 1:50 PM Matthew Miller wrote: > We used to always have a Change submitted for the GNOME update, but that > stopped, I assume because it felt like kind of rote bureaucracy rather than > helpful, since it was basically the same every time. Maybe it's useful after > all to hel

Re: GNOME 3.30.0 megaupdate

2018-09-05 Thread Chris Murphy
On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 9:04 AM, Kalev Lember wrote: > Dunno what to do wrt the ongoing freeze and getting final 3.30 in F29 > Beta, I guess it may be too late for that. Any opinions from QA here? If 3.29 is not what GNOME folks had ever wanted to ship in the Beta, why are we hearing about it o

Re: GNOME 3.30.0 megaupdate

2018-09-05 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Sep 05, 2018 at 05:04:46PM +0200, Kalev Lember wrote: > We are quite a bit behind with the builds, like half of GNOME is still > at 3.28.x or at various stages of 3.29.x snapshots, so there's quite a > bit of catching up to do. We used to always have a Change submitted for the GNOME update

Re: GNOME 3.30.0 megaupdate

2018-09-05 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 12:56 PM Tomasz Torcz wrote: > On Wed, Sep 05, 2018 at 10:15:26PM +0530, Parag Nemade wrote: > > > > > > I'd be *strongly* disinclined to give a Freeze Exception for a GNOME > > > mega-update. There's just far too much that could go wrong. Please > plan to > > > land the me

Re: GNOME 3.30.0 megaupdate

2018-09-05 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2018-09-05 at 11:19 -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 11:12 AM Kalev Lember wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > As many of you know, I've been gone half the summer. I'm back now since > > Monday though and just in time for GNOME 3.30.0 :) > > > > We are quite a bit behin

Re: GNOME 3.30.0 megaupdate

2018-09-05 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2018-09-05 at 22:15 +0530, Parag Nemade wrote: > On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 8:49 PM, Stephen Gallagher > wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 11:12 AM Kalev Lember > > wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > As many of you know, I've been gone half the summer. I'm back now since > > > Mon

Re: GNOME 3.30.0 megaupdate

2018-09-05 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Wed, Sep 05, 2018 at 10:15:26PM +0530, Parag Nemade wrote: > > > > I'd be *strongly* disinclined to give a Freeze Exception for a GNOME > > mega-update. There's just far too much that could go wrong. Please plan to > > land the mega-update in updates-testing once the Freeze lifts. U-T is > > ena

Re: GNOME 3.30.0 megaupdate

2018-09-05 Thread Parag Nemade
On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 8:49 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 11:12 AM Kalev Lember > wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> As many of you know, I've been gone half the summer. I'm back now since >> Monday though and just in time for GNOME 3.30.0 :) >> >> We are quite a bit behind wi

Re: GNOME 3.30.0 megaupdate

2018-09-05 Thread Peter Robinson
>> As many of you know, I've been gone half the summer. I'm back now since >> Monday though and just in time for GNOME 3.30.0 :) >> >> We are quite a bit behind with the builds, like half of GNOME is still >> at 3.28.x or at various stages of 3.29.x snapshots, so there's quite a >> bit of catching

Re: GNOME 3.30.0 megaupdate

2018-09-05 Thread Richard Hughes
On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 at 16:19, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > I'd be *strongly* disinclined to give a Freeze Exception for a GNOME > mega-update. So you'd rather we ship GA with early pre-release builds of GNOME that have had little-to-no testing? From a downstream point of view I'm not going to fix t

Re: GNOME 3.30.0 megaupdate

2018-09-05 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 11:12 AM Kalev Lember wrote: > Hi all, > > As many of you know, I've been gone half the summer. I'm back now since > Monday though and just in time for GNOME 3.30.0 :) > > We are quite a bit behind with the builds, like half of GNOME is still > at 3.28.x or at various stage

GNOME 3.30.0 megaupdate

2018-09-05 Thread Kalev Lember
Hi all, As many of you know, I've been gone half the summer. I'm back now since Monday though and just in time for GNOME 3.30.0 :) We are quite a bit behind with the builds, like half of GNOME is still at 3.28.x or at various stages of 3.29.x snapshots, so there's quite a bit of catching up to d