On Mar 21, 2012 12:47 AM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote:
Avi אבי Alkalay אלקלעי wrote:
What are the legal tools that Ubuntu uses so it can ship H.264 ?
It's based on the Isle of Man, not in the USA.
Which doesn't provide that much protection as a couple of online poker
- Original Message -
Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
The only thing we can do here is to make it easier for people to
get these not nice codecs if they demand the support. Maybe in the
same way as with Fluendo MP3 long time ago? If you want it, take
the risks on you and pay the licence
On Mar 21, 2012 2:30 AM, Fedora Video fedoravi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:11 PM, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com
wrote:
Note that Debian does include a decoder by default for both MP3 and
H.264 but they can only do so because they are a non-profit and the
worst case
I gave up a long time ago on using Linux as my primary desktop: I found my
self spending too much time helping the computer to work correctly than
having the computer helping me to work better.
I think the Fedora Project is about advanced Open Source mostly (but not
only) for server side, task
Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
But that's the only way how we can legally point people to the solution.
We can't show the PackageKit window saying - now enable the repo we
shouldn't talk about :D and say install gstreamer-plugins-ugly. In that
case we can just ship it in our own repos :) On the other
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 2:58 AM, Simo Sorce s...@redhat.com wrote:
[...]
In the US instead patents have their root in a specific constitutional
provision that says that this kind of monopoly can only be granted if it
promotes innovation, this means there is no specific ban on software
patents
Meanwhile, my Fedora post-installation instructions are quite popular on the
Internet:
http://avi.alkalay.net/2007/06/fedora-post-installation-configurations.html
It is link #3 on a fedora h.264 Google search and I use to keep it updated.
On 20/03/2012, at 23:11, Rahul Sundaram
- Original Message -
On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 22:29 -0400, Fedora Video wrote:
In any case. This argument is moot. Fedora will distribute H.264
because it will be part of Firefox.
No, it won't. You persist in misunderstanding this, though it has
been
explained to you. Firefox will
On 20.3.2012 23:27, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Even YouTube has adopted WebM.
What the original author ignored to include was link to
http://brendaneich.com/2012/03/video-mobile-and-the-open-web/ which
explains the position of MoFo. What he completely missed is bug
On 21.3.2012 03:41, Adam Williamson wrote:
Firefox will take advantage of a system h264 codec where one is
available. In the Fedora system, one will not be available.
Fedora as shipped from get.fedoraproject.org won't contain H.264 codec.
Which doesn't mean that my computer won't be able to
On Wed, 2012-03-21 at 09:55 +0100, Matej Cepl wrote:
On 21.3.2012 03:41, Adam Williamson wrote:
Firefox will take advantage of a system h264 codec where one is
available. In the Fedora system, one will not be available.
Fedora as shipped from get.fedoraproject.org won't contain H.264
Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
The only thing we can do here is to make it easier for people to
get these not nice codecs if they demand the support. Maybe in the
same way as with Fluendo MP3 long time ago? If you want it, take
the risks on you and pay the licence fees...
As far as I know, Fluendo
As everyone probably knows, Mozilla has chosen to adopt H.264. They will be
doing this by finally utilizing OS codecs instead of embedding their own.
They have been quite clear that Linux would be supported too, so obviously
this means H.264 in Fedora. With Firefox's adoption there will be no web
Fedora Video (fedoravi...@gmail.com) said:
As everyone probably knows, Mozilla has chosen to adopt H.264. They will be
doing this by finally utilizing OS codecs instead of embedding their own.
They have been quite clear that Linux would be supported too, so obviously
this means H.264 in
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:23 PM, Fedora Video fedoravi...@gmail.com wrote:
As everyone probably knows, Mozilla has chosen to adopt H.264. They will be
doing this by finally utilizing OS codecs instead of embedding their own.
They have been quite clear that Linux would be supported too, so
On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 17:23 -0400, Fedora Video wrote:
As everyone probably knows, Mozilla has chosen to adopt H.264. They
will be doing this by finally utilizing OS codecs instead of embedding
their own. They have been quite clear that Linux would be supported
too, so obviously this means
Fedora Video wrote:
It is time for Fedora to stop promoting low quality, proprietary, and
unlicensed video like WebM and Theora and adopt the industry standard
x264. Our political preferences are worthless if Fedora is irrelevant.
It is time to regain relevance!
Fedora will never ship
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 11:27:28PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Patent-encumbered codecs are evil and it is time to embrace
Free codecs.
Actually, government-granted monopolies are the problem. The codecs
and software run just fine, over here in a free(-er) country.
Rich.
--
Richard Jones,
On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 22:48 +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 11:27:28PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Patent-encumbered codecs are evil and it is time to embrace
Free codecs.
Actually, government-granted monopolies are the problem. The codecs
and software run just
I actually support this idea.
What are the legal tools that Ubuntu uses so it can ship H.264 ?
Em terça-feira, 20 de março de 2012, Fedora Videofedoravi...@gmail.com
escreveu:
As everyone probably knows, Mozilla has chosen to adopt H.264. They will
be doing this by finally utilizing OS codecs
Avi אבי Alkalay אלקלעי wrote:
What are the legal tools that Ubuntu uses so it can ship H.264 ?
It's based on the Isle of Man, not in the USA.
Kevin Kofler
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Fedora Video fedoravideo at gmail.com writes:
As everyone probably knows, Mozilla has chosen to adopt H.264. They will be
doing this by finally utilizing OS codecs instead of embedding their own. They
have been quite clear that Linux would be supported too, so obviously this means
H.264 in
On 20/03/12 02:23 PM, Fedora Video wrote:
Why is Mozilla doing this? It is clear enough: Non-support of H.264
is making them irrelevant. They've gone from the #1 browser to the #4
directly as a result of not adopting H.264. H.264 is the only video
that is good enough for the web and the
On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 16:36 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
[lots elided]
I was asked to reconsider my invention under another light: I was
using captors to the external world. My prediction had an impact on a
hardware product. In fact, every software patent you can think of can
be
On Wed, 2012-03-21 at 01:46 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Avi אבי Alkalay אלקלעי wrote:
What are the legal tools that Ubuntu uses so it can ship H.264 ?
It's based on the Isle of Man, not in the USA.
Regardless, as far as I know, Ubuntu does not ship h.264 encoding or
decoding support in any
On Mar 20, 2012, at 7:58 PM, Simo Sorce wrote:
In the US instead patents have their root in a specific constitutional
provision that says that this kind of monopoly can only be granted if it
promotes innovation, this means there is no specific ban on software
patents but given they arguably
On 03/21/2012 06:56 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Wed, 2012-03-21 at 01:46 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Avi אבי Alkalay אלקלעי wrote:
What are the legal tools that Ubuntu uses so it can ship H.264 ?
It's based on the Isle of Man, not in the USA.
Regardless, as far as I know, Ubuntu does not
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:11 PM, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote:
Note that Debian does include a decoder by default for both MP3 and
H.264 but they can only do so because they are a non-profit and the
worst case scenario is a injunction until they remove the infringing
parts so
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:29 PM, Fedora Video fedoravi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:11 PM, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote:
Note that Debian does include a decoder by default for both MP3 and
H.264 but they can only do so because they are a non-profit and the
worst
On 03/21/2012 07:59 AM, Fedora Video wrote:
The document is quite clear that Debian will not distribute software which
only they can distribute or which can only be distributed
non-commercially.
That may be the policy but the difference is that Debian is free to
interpret decoding as
On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 22:29 -0400, Fedora Video wrote:
In any case. This argument is moot. Fedora will distribute H.264
because it will be part of Firefox.
No, it won't. You persist in misunderstanding this, though it has been
explained to you. Firefox will take advantage of a system h264
On 03/21/2012 07:59 AM, Fedora Video wrote:
In any case. This argument is moot. Fedora will distribute H.264 because it
will be part of Firefox.
Actually no. You don't understand the situation. Firefox does not
include H.264 at all. Firefox will play H.264 if the underlying
platform
On 03/21/2012 07:59 AM, Fedora Video wrote:
In any case. This argument is moot. Fedora will distribute H.264 because it
will be part of Firefox.
Actually no. You don't understand the situation. Firefox does not
include H.264 at all. Firefox will play H.264 if the underlying
platform
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