Re: Is F15 unbackuppable? (RemoveSETUID)

2011-06-09 Thread Ondrej Vasik
On Sun, 2011-06-05 at 13:50 +0200, Roberto Ragusa wrote:
 On 06/05/2011 12:32 PM, Ralf Ertzinger wrote:
  Hi.
  
  On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 11:39:02 +0200, Roberto Ragusa wrote
  
  - rsync -aFAILS!
  
  rsync supports -X (for xattr) and -A (for ACLs), both must be
  given explicitly.
 
 Thanks, rsync -X actually works (and I wonder why -X is not included
 in -a, just as for cp).
 
 I see tar has --xattrs. With tar -c it works (the tar file contains the
 string with the value), but tar -x does not recreate the xattr.
 
 By using strace I see that rsync does
 
   open(.a.eWMgCy, O_RDWR|O_CREAT|O_EXCL|O_LARGEFILE, 0600) = 1
   fchmod(1, 0700) = 0
   close(1)= 0
   lstat64(.a.eWMgCy, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0700, st_size=0, ...}) = 0
   llistxattr(.a.eWMgCy, 0x82bb0c0, 1024) = 0
   lsetxattr(.a.eWMgCy, security.capability, \x01\x00\x00\x02\x00 
 \x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00, 20, 0) = 0
   lsetxattr(.a.eWMgCy, user.qqq, www, 3, 0) = 0
   utimensat(AT_FDCWD, .a.eWMgCy, {UTIME_NOW, {1307265135, 0}}, 
 AT_SYMLINK_NOFOLLOW) = 0
   chmod(.a.eWMgCy, 0755)= 0
   rename(.a.eWMgCy, a)= 0
 
 while tar -x does
 
   mknod(a, 0700)= 0
   setxattr(a, user.qqq, www, 3, 0)  = 0
   open(a, O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_LARGEFILE, 0700) = 4
   close(4)= 0
   utimensat(AT_FDCWD, a, {{1307271119, 468295223}, {1307265135, 0}}, 0) = 0
   setxattr(a, user.qqq, www, 3, 0)  = 0
   chown32(a, 0, 0)  = 0
   chmod(a, 0755)= 0
 
 Why is tar not working? (getcap a prints nothing)
 
Simply because tar does not store all the extended attributes. Just
limited set of them. At the moment security.capability is not among
them. Feel free to report a bugzilla against rawhide tar...

You may also consider using star... where is the support for extended
attributes present for longer time (and upstream).

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Re: Is F15 unbackuppable? (RemoveSETUID)

2011-06-09 Thread Roberto Ragusa
On 06/09/2011 09:59 AM, Ondrej Vasik wrote:
 On Sun, 2011-06-05 at 13:50 +0200, Roberto Ragusa wrote:
 On 06/05/2011 12:32 PM, Ralf Ertzinger wrote:
 Hi.

 On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 11:39:02 +0200, Roberto Ragusa wrote

 - rsync -aFAILS!

 rsync supports -X (for xattr) and -A (for ACLs), both must be
 given explicitly.

 Thanks, rsync -X actually works (and I wonder why -X is not included
 in -a, just as for cp).

 I see tar has --xattrs. With tar -c it works (the tar file contains the
 string with the value), but tar -x does not recreate the xattr.

 By using strace I see that rsync does

   open(.a.eWMgCy, O_RDWR|O_CREAT|O_EXCL|O_LARGEFILE, 0600) = 1
   fchmod(1, 0700) = 0
   close(1)= 0
   lstat64(.a.eWMgCy, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0700, st_size=0, ...}) = 0
   llistxattr(.a.eWMgCy, 0x82bb0c0, 1024) = 0
   lsetxattr(.a.eWMgCy, security.capability, \x01\x00\x00\x02\x00 
 \x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00, 20, 0) = 0
   lsetxattr(.a.eWMgCy, user.qqq, www, 3, 0) = 0
   utimensat(AT_FDCWD, .a.eWMgCy, {UTIME_NOW, {1307265135, 0}}, 
 AT_SYMLINK_NOFOLLOW) = 0
   chmod(.a.eWMgCy, 0755)= 0
   rename(.a.eWMgCy, a)= 0

 while tar -x does

   mknod(a, 0700)= 0
   setxattr(a, user.qqq, www, 3, 0)  = 0
   open(a, O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_LARGEFILE, 0700) = 4
   close(4)= 0
   utimensat(AT_FDCWD, a, {{1307271119, 468295223}, {1307265135, 0}}, 0) = 0
   setxattr(a, user.qqq, www, 3, 0)  = 0
   chown32(a, 0, 0)  = 0
   chmod(a, 0755)= 0

 Why is tar not working? (getcap a prints nothing)

 Simply because tar does not store all the extended attributes. Just
 limited set of them. At the moment security.capability is not among
 them. Feel free to report a bugzilla against rawhide tar...

The problem is not only with the security.capability.
The user.qqq one is also missing (even if strace says it has been
attempted).

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Re: Is F15 unbackuppable? (RemoveSETUID)

2011-06-09 Thread Roberto Ragusa
On 06/08/2011 08:35 PM, nodata wrote:
 On 05/06/11 13:50, Roberto Ragusa wrote:

 Why is tar not working? (getcap a prints nothing)

 
 Have you got a bz#?

No, I will try to describe how to reproduce the bug
and open it (if noone is faster than me in doing so).

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Re: Is F15 unbackuppable? (RemoveSETUID)

2011-06-08 Thread nodata
On 05/06/11 13:50, Roberto Ragusa wrote:
 On 06/05/2011 12:32 PM, Ralf Ertzinger wrote:
 Hi.

 On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 11:39:02 +0200, Roberto Ragusa wrote

 - rsync -aFAILS!

 rsync supports -X (for xattr) and -A (for ACLs), both must be
 given explicitly.

 Thanks, rsync -X actually works (and I wonder why -X is not included
 in -a, just as for cp).

 I see tar has --xattrs. With tar -c it works (the tar file contains the
 string with the value), but tar -x does not recreate the xattr.

 By using strace I see that rsync does

open(.a.eWMgCy, O_RDWR|O_CREAT|O_EXCL|O_LARGEFILE, 0600) = 1
fchmod(1, 0700) = 0
close(1)= 0
lstat64(.a.eWMgCy, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0700, st_size=0, ...}) = 0
llistxattr(.a.eWMgCy, 0x82bb0c0, 1024) = 0
lsetxattr(.a.eWMgCy, security.capability, \x01\x00\x00\x02\x00 
 \x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00, 20, 0) = 0
lsetxattr(.a.eWMgCy, user.qqq, www, 3, 0) = 0
utimensat(AT_FDCWD, .a.eWMgCy, {UTIME_NOW, {1307265135, 0}}, 
 AT_SYMLINK_NOFOLLOW) = 0
chmod(.a.eWMgCy, 0755)= 0
rename(.a.eWMgCy, a)= 0

 while tar -x does

mknod(a, 0700)= 0
setxattr(a, user.qqq, www, 3, 0)  = 0
open(a, O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_LARGEFILE, 0700) = 4
close(4)= 0
utimensat(AT_FDCWD, a, {{1307271119, 468295223}, {1307265135, 0}}, 0) = 0
setxattr(a, user.qqq, www, 3, 0)  = 0
chown32(a, 0, 0)  = 0
chmod(a, 0755)= 0

 Why is tar not working? (getcap a prints nothing)


Have you got a bz#?
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Is F15 unbackuppable? (RemoveSETUID)

2011-06-05 Thread Roberto Ragusa
Hi,

which tools are able to backup the file capabilities which are
now used in F15 because of RemoveSETUID feature?

My tests with setcap/getcap (on F14) show that:

- cp -a   works
- tar FAILS!
- rsync -aFAILS!
- MidnightCommander copy  FAILS!

Are these things fixed on F15?

Am I right that every kind of remote backup solution based on tar or rsync
has been broken for F15? (especially because the remote machine is not
guaranteed to be F15 at all)

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Re: Is F15 unbackuppable? (RemoveSETUID)

2011-06-05 Thread Ralf Ertzinger
Hi.

On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 11:39:02 +0200, Roberto Ragusa wrote

 - rsync -aFAILS!

rsync supports -X (for xattr) and -A (for ACLs), both must be
given explicitly.
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Re: Is F15 unbackuppable? (RemoveSETUID)

2011-06-05 Thread Roberto Ragusa
On 06/05/2011 12:32 PM, Ralf Ertzinger wrote:
 Hi.
 
 On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 11:39:02 +0200, Roberto Ragusa wrote
 
 - rsync -aFAILS!
 
 rsync supports -X (for xattr) and -A (for ACLs), both must be
 given explicitly.

Thanks, rsync -X actually works (and I wonder why -X is not included
in -a, just as for cp).

I see tar has --xattrs. With tar -c it works (the tar file contains the
string with the value), but tar -x does not recreate the xattr.

By using strace I see that rsync does

  open(.a.eWMgCy, O_RDWR|O_CREAT|O_EXCL|O_LARGEFILE, 0600) = 1
  fchmod(1, 0700) = 0
  close(1)= 0
  lstat64(.a.eWMgCy, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0700, st_size=0, ...}) = 0
  llistxattr(.a.eWMgCy, 0x82bb0c0, 1024) = 0
  lsetxattr(.a.eWMgCy, security.capability, \x01\x00\x00\x02\x00 
\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00, 20, 0) = 0
  lsetxattr(.a.eWMgCy, user.qqq, www, 3, 0) = 0
  utimensat(AT_FDCWD, .a.eWMgCy, {UTIME_NOW, {1307265135, 0}}, 
AT_SYMLINK_NOFOLLOW) = 0
  chmod(.a.eWMgCy, 0755)= 0
  rename(.a.eWMgCy, a)= 0

while tar -x does

  mknod(a, 0700)= 0
  setxattr(a, user.qqq, www, 3, 0)  = 0
  open(a, O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_LARGEFILE, 0700) = 4
  close(4)= 0
  utimensat(AT_FDCWD, a, {{1307271119, 468295223}, {1307265135, 0}}, 0) = 0
  setxattr(a, user.qqq, www, 3, 0)  = 0
  chown32(a, 0, 0)  = 0
  chmod(a, 0755)= 0

Why is tar not working? (getcap a prints nothing)

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