List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Miro Hrončok]

Dear maintainers.

Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following packages
should be retired from Fedora 40 approximately one week before branching.

5 weekly reminders are required, hence the retirement will happen
approximately in 3 weeks, i.e. around 2024-02-28.
Since this is unfortunately after the branching,
packages will be retired on rawhide and f40.

I apologize for starting this process a bit later than required again.
Unfortunately, I had other work obligations.
Volunteers to take over this are always welcome.

Policy: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Fails_to_build_from_source_Fails_to_install/


The packages in rawhide were not successfully built at least since Fedora 37.

This report is based on dist tags.

Packages collected via:
https://github.com/hroncok/fedora-report-ftbfs-retirements/blob/master/ftbfs-retirements.ipynb

If you see a package that was built, please let me know.
If you see a package that should be exempted from the process,
please let me know and we can work together to get a FESCo approval for that.

If you see a package that can be rebuilt, please do so.

Package  (co)maintainers

calendar dcantrell, egoode
erlang-jose bowlofeggs, erlang-maint-sig, jcline, peter
ghdl sailer
git-secrets  keesdejong
golang-github-acme-lego  eclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-gatherstars-com-jwzeclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-genuinetools-pkg   eclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-gobs-prettyeclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-jhillyerd-enmime   eclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-pierrre-compareeclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-smartystreets-goconvey alexsaezm, go-sig, jchaloup
golang-gopkg-square-jose-2   alexsaezm, go-sig
golang-gvisoreclipseo, elmarco, go-sig
golang-opentelemetry-otel-0.20   alexsaezm, go-sig
golang-sigs-k8s-kustomizedcavalca, go-sig
golang-vitesseclipseo, go-sig
infinipath-psm   honli
j4-dmenu-desktop ibotty
jackson-dataformats-binary   mbooth
jackson-dataformats-text mbooth
java-1.8.0-openjdk-aarch32   akasko, jvanek
jreenrdieter
libdeltacloudclalance
mingw-clucenegreghellings
mingw-speexdsp   janisozaur
nbd-runner   xiubli
nodejs-generic-pool  patches, piotrp
ofononjha, thunderbirdtr
pesign-test-app  javierm, nfrayer, pjones, rharwood
pthsem   ixs
rust-drg jbtrystram, rust-sig

The following packages require above mentioned packages:
Depending on: erlang-jose (1)
erlang-p1_acme (maintained by: bowlofeggs, erlang-maint-sig, peter)
erlang-p1_acme-1.0.8-9.fc40.noarch requires erlang-jose
erlang-p1_acme-1.0.8-9.fc40.src requires erlang-jose

Depending on: golang-github-gatherstars-com-jwz (1)
aerc (maintained by: eclipseo, go-sig)
aerc-0.15.2-2.fc39.src requires 
golang(github.com/gatherstars-com/jwz)

Depending on: golang-github-genuinetools-pkg (1)
reg (maintained by: go-sig, infra-sig, mattia)
reg-0.16.1-15.fc40.src requires 
golang(github.com/genuinetools/pkg/cli)

Depending on: golang-github-gobs-pretty (2)
golang-github-vinyldns (maintained by: eclipseo, go-sig)
		golang-github-vinyldns-0.9.13-1.fc40.2.src requires 
golang(github.com/gobs/pretty)


golang-github-acme-lego (maintained by: eclipseo, go-sig)
		golang-github-acme-lego-4.4.0-8.fc37.src requires 
golang(github.com/vinyldns/go-vinyldns/vinyldns)
		golang-github-acme-lego-devel-4.4.0-8.fc37.noarch requires 
golang(github.com/vinyldns/go-vinyldns/vinyldns)


Depending on: golang-github-jhillyerd-enmime (2)
golang-github-gatherstars-com-jwz (maintained by: eclipseo, go-sig)
		golang-github-gatherstars-com-jwz-1.3.0-1.fc37.src requires 
golang(github.com/jhillyerd/enmime)


aerc (maintained by: eclipseo, go-sig)
aerc-0.15.2-2.fc39.src requires 
golang(github.com/gatherstars-com/jwz)

Depending on: golang-github-pierrre-compare (1)
golang-github-pierrre-geohash (maintained by: eclipseo, go-sig)
		golang-github-pierrre-geohash-1.0.0-9.fc40.src requires 
golang(github.com/pierrre/compare)


Depending on: golang-github-smartystreets-goconvey (23)
golang-github-afex-hystrix (maintained by: alexsaezm, go-sig)
		golang-github-afex-hystrix-0-0.14.20190622gitfa1af6a.fc40.src requires 
golang(github.com/smartystreets/goconvey/convey)


golang-github-cucumber-godog (maintained by: eclipseo, go-sig)
		

Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Mikel Olasagasti]

Hau idatzi du Miro Hrončok (mhron...@redhat.com) erabiltzaileak (2024
ots. 3(a), lr. (18:18)):
>
>
>  Package  (co)maintainers
> 
> golang-github-gatherstars-com-jwz   eclipseo, go-sig
> golang-github-jhillyerd-enmime  eclipseo, go-sig
> golang-gopkg-square-jose-2  alexsaezm, go-sig
> golang-opentelemetry-otel-0.20  alexsaezm, go-sig

Fixed these.

> golang-github-pierrre-compare   eclipseo, go-sig

Obsoleted by updating golang-github-pierrre-geohash

Mikel
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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[David Cantrell]

On 2/3/24 12:17, Miro Hrončok wrote:

Dear maintainers.

Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following 
packages

should be retired from Fedora 40 approximately one week before branching.

5 weekly reminders are required, hence the retirement will happen
approximately in 4 weeks, i.e. around 2024-02-28.
Since this is unfortunately after the branching,
packages will be retired on rawhide and f40.

I apologize for starting this process a bit later than required again.
Unfortunately, I had other work obligations.
Volunteers to take over this are always welcome.

Policy: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Fails_to_build_from_source_Fails_to_install/


The packages in rawhide were not successfully built at least since 
Fedora 37.


This report is based on dist tags.

Packages collected via:
https://github.com/hroncok/fedora-report-ftbfs-retirements/blob/master/ftbfs-retirements.ipynb

If you see a package that was built, please let me know.
If you see a package that should be exempted from the process,
please let me know and we can work together to get a FESCo approval for 
that.


If you see a package that can be rebuilt, please do so.

     Package  (co)maintainers

calendar    dcantrell, egoode


Fixed calendar.

Thanks,

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List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Miro Hrončok]

Dear maintainers.

Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following packages
should be retired from Fedora 40 approximately one week before branching.

5 weekly reminders are required, hence the retirement will happen
approximately in 3 weeks, i.e. around 2024-02-28.
Since this is unfortunately after the branching,
packages will be retired on rawhide and f40.

I apologize for starting this process a bit later than required again.
Unfortunately, I had other work obligations.
Volunteers to take over this are always welcome.

Policy: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Fails_to_build_from_source_Fails_to_install/


The packages in rawhide were not successfully built at least since Fedora 37.

This report is based on dist tags.

Packages collected via:
https://github.com/hroncok/fedora-report-ftbfs-retirements/blob/master/ftbfs-retirements.ipynb

If you see a package that was built, please let me know.
If you see a package that should be exempted from the process,
please let me know and we can work together to get a FESCo approval for that.

If you see a package that can be rebuilt, please do so.

Package  (co)maintainers

calendar dcantrell, egoode
erlang-jose bowlofeggs, erlang-maint-sig, jcline, peter
ghdl sailer
git-secrets  keesdejong
golang-github-acme-lego  eclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-gatherstars-com-jwzeclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-genuinetools-pkg   eclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-gobs-prettyeclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-jhillyerd-enmime   eclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-pierrre-compareeclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-smartystreets-goconvey alexsaezm, go-sig, jchaloup
golang-gopkg-square-jose-2   alexsaezm, go-sig
golang-gvisoreclipseo, elmarco, go-sig
golang-opentelemetry-otel-0.20   alexsaezm, go-sig
golang-sigs-k8s-kustomizedcavalca, go-sig
golang-vitesseclipseo, go-sig
infinipath-psm   honli
j4-dmenu-desktop ibotty
jackson-dataformats-binary   mbooth
jackson-dataformats-text mbooth
java-1.8.0-openjdk-aarch32   akasko, jvanek
jreenrdieter
libdeltacloudclalance
mingw-clucenegreghellings
mingw-speexdsp   janisozaur
nbd-runner   xiubli
nodejs-generic-pool  patches, piotrp
ofononjha, thunderbirdtr
pesign-test-app  javierm, nfrayer, pjones, rharwood
pthsem   ixs
rust-drg jbtrystram, rust-sig

The following packages require above mentioned packages:
Depending on: erlang-jose (1)
erlang-p1_acme (maintained by: bowlofeggs, erlang-maint-sig, peter)
erlang-p1_acme-1.0.8-9.fc40.noarch requires erlang-jose
erlang-p1_acme-1.0.8-9.fc40.src requires erlang-jose

Depending on: golang-github-gatherstars-com-jwz (1)
aerc (maintained by: eclipseo, go-sig)
aerc-0.15.2-2.fc39.src requires 
golang(github.com/gatherstars-com/jwz)

Depending on: golang-github-genuinetools-pkg (1)
reg (maintained by: go-sig, infra-sig, mattia)
reg-0.16.1-15.fc40.src requires 
golang(github.com/genuinetools/pkg/cli)

Depending on: golang-github-gobs-pretty (2)
golang-github-vinyldns (maintained by: eclipseo, go-sig)
		golang-github-vinyldns-0.9.13-1.fc40.2.src requires 
golang(github.com/gobs/pretty)


golang-github-acme-lego (maintained by: eclipseo, go-sig)
		golang-github-acme-lego-4.4.0-8.fc37.src requires 
golang(github.com/vinyldns/go-vinyldns/vinyldns)
		golang-github-acme-lego-devel-4.4.0-8.fc37.noarch requires 
golang(github.com/vinyldns/go-vinyldns/vinyldns)


Depending on: golang-github-jhillyerd-enmime (2)
golang-github-gatherstars-com-jwz (maintained by: eclipseo, go-sig)
		golang-github-gatherstars-com-jwz-1.3.0-1.fc37.src requires 
golang(github.com/jhillyerd/enmime)


aerc (maintained by: eclipseo, go-sig)
aerc-0.15.2-2.fc39.src requires 
golang(github.com/gatherstars-com/jwz)

Depending on: golang-github-pierrre-compare (1)
golang-github-pierrre-geohash (maintained by: eclipseo, go-sig)
		golang-github-pierrre-geohash-1.0.0-9.fc40.src requires 
golang(github.com/pierrre/compare)


Depending on: golang-github-smartystreets-goconvey (23)
golang-github-afex-hystrix (maintained by: alexsaezm, go-sig)
		golang-github-afex-hystrix-0-0.14.20190622gitfa1af6a.fc40.src requires 
golang(github.com/smartystreets/goconvey/convey)


golang-github-cucumber-godog (maintained by: eclipseo, go-sig)
		

List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Miro Hrončok]

Dear maintainers.

Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following packages
should be retired from Fedora 40 approximately one week before branching.

5 weekly reminders are required, hence the retirement will happen
approximately in 4 weeks, i.e. around 2024-02-28.
Since this is unfortunately after the branching,
packages will be retired on rawhide and f40.

I apologize for starting this process a bit later than required again.
Unfortunately, I had other work obligations.
Volunteers to take over this are always welcome.

Policy: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Fails_to_build_from_source_Fails_to_install/


The packages in rawhide were not successfully built at least since Fedora 37.

This report is based on dist tags.

Packages collected via:
https://github.com/hroncok/fedora-report-ftbfs-retirements/blob/master/ftbfs-retirements.ipynb

If you see a package that was built, please let me know.
If you see a package that should be exempted from the process,
please let me know and we can work together to get a FESCo approval for that.

If you see a package that can be rebuilt, please do so.

Package  (co)maintainers

calendardcantrell, egoode
erlang-jose bowlofeggs, erlang-maint-sig, jcline, peter
ghdlsailer
git-secrets keesdejong
golang-github-acme-lego eclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-gatherstars-com-jwz   eclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-genuinetools-pkg  eclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-gobs-pretty   eclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-jhillyerd-enmime  eclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-pierrre-compare   eclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-smartystreets-goconvey  alexsaezm, go-sig, jchaloup
golang-gopkg-square-jose-2  alexsaezm, go-sig
golang-gvisor   eclipseo, elmarco, go-sig
golang-opentelemetry-otel-0.20  alexsaezm, go-sig
golang-sigs-k8s-kustomize   dcavalca, go-sig
golang-vitess   eclipseo, go-sig
infinipath-psm  honli
j4-dmenu-desktopibotty
jackson-dataformats-binary  mbooth
jackson-dataformats-textmbooth
java-1.8.0-openjdk-aarch32  akasko, jvanek
jreen   rdieter
libdeltacloud   clalance
mingw-clucene   greghellings
mingw-speexdsp  janisozaur
nbd-runner  xiubli
nodejs-generic-pool patches, piotrp
ofono   njha, thunderbirdtr
openni-primesense   cottsay, jkastner, rmattes
pesign-test-app javierm, nfrayer, pjones, rharwood
pthsem  ixs
rust-drgjbtrystram, rust-sig
telepathy-gabbleaperezbios

The following packages require above mentioned packages:
Depending on: erlang-jose (1)
erlang-p1_acme (maintained by: bowlofeggs, erlang-maint-sig, peter)
erlang-p1_acme-1.0.8-9.fc40.noarch requires erlang-jose
erlang-p1_acme-1.0.8-9.fc40.src requires erlang-jose

Depending on: golang-github-gatherstars-com-jwz (1)
aerc (maintained by: eclipseo, go-sig)
aerc-0.15.2-2.fc39.src requires 
golang(github.com/gatherstars-com/jwz)

Depending on: golang-github-genuinetools-pkg (1)
reg (maintained by: go-sig, infra-sig, mattia)
reg-0.16.1-15.fc40.src requires 
golang(github.com/genuinetools/pkg/cli)

Depending on: golang-github-gobs-pretty (2)
golang-github-vinyldns (maintained by: eclipseo, go-sig)
		golang-github-vinyldns-0.9.13-1.fc40.2.src requires 
golang(github.com/gobs/pretty)


golang-github-acme-lego (maintained by: eclipseo, go-sig)
		golang-github-acme-lego-4.4.0-8.fc37.src requires 
golang(github.com/vinyldns/go-vinyldns/vinyldns)
		golang-github-acme-lego-devel-4.4.0-8.fc37.noarch requires 
golang(github.com/vinyldns/go-vinyldns/vinyldns)


Depending on: golang-github-jhillyerd-enmime (2)
golang-github-gatherstars-com-jwz (maintained by: eclipseo, go-sig)
		golang-github-gatherstars-com-jwz-1.3.0-1.fc37.src requires 
golang(github.com/jhillyerd/enmime)


aerc (maintained by: eclipseo, go-sig)
aerc-0.15.2-2.fc39.src requires 
golang(github.com/gatherstars-com/jwz)

Depending on: golang-github-pierrre-compare (1)
golang-github-pierrre-geohash (maintained by: eclipseo, go-sig)
		golang-github-pierrre-geohash-1.0.0-9.fc40.src requires 
golang(github.com/pierrre/compare)


Depending on: golang-github-smartystreets-goconvey (23)
golang-github-afex-hystrix (maintained by: alexsaezm, go-sig)
		golang-github-afex-hystrix-0-0.14.20190622gitfa1af6a.fc40.src requires 
golang(github.com/smartystreets/goconvey/convey)

Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Mamoru TASAKA]

Miro Hrončok wrote on 2024/02/04 2:17:

Dear maintainers.

Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following packages
should be retired from Fedora 40 approximately one week before branching.

5 weekly reminders are required, hence the retirement will happen
approximately in 4 weeks, i.e. around 2024-02-28.
Since this is unfortunately after the branching,
packages will be retired on rawhide and f40.

I apologize for starting this process a bit later than required again.
Unfortunately, I had other work obligations.
Volunteers to take over this are always welcome.

Policy: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Fails_to_build_from_source_Fails_to_install/

The packages in rawhide were not successfully built at least since Fedora 37.

This report is based on dist tags.

Packages collected via:
https://github.com/hroncok/fedora-report-ftbfs-retirements/blob/master/ftbfs-retirements.ipynb

If you see a package that was built, please let me know.
If you see a package that should be exempted from the process,
please let me know and we can work together to get a FESCo approval for that.

If you see a package that can be rebuilt, please do so.

     Package  (co)maintainers

telepathy-gabble    aperezbios

The following packages require above mentioned packages:

Depending on: telepathy-gabble (31)
 sugar (maintained by: aperezbios, chimosky)
     sugar-0.120-6.fc40.noarch requires telepathy-gabble

 sugar-abacus (maintained by: chimosky)
     sugar-abacus-61-9.fc39.noarch requires sugar


 Too many dependencies for telepathy-gabble, not all listed here



Fixed telepathy-gabble .
Regards,
Mamoru
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List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Miro Hrončok]

Dear maintainers.

Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following packages
should be retired from Fedora 40 approximately one week before branching.

5 weekly reminders are required, hence the retirement will happen
approximately in 4 weeks, i.e. around 2024-02-28.
Since this is unfortunately after the branching,
packages will be retired on rawhide and f40.

I apologize for starting this process a bit later than required again.
Unfortunately, I had other work obligations.
Volunteers to take over this are always welcome.

Policy: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Fails_to_build_from_source_Fails_to_install/


The packages in rawhide were not successfully built at least since Fedora 37.

This report is based on dist tags.

Packages collected via:
https://github.com/hroncok/fedora-report-ftbfs-retirements/blob/master/ftbfs-retirements.ipynb

If you see a package that was built, please let me know.
If you see a package that should be exempted from the process,
please let me know and we can work together to get a FESCo approval for that.

If you see a package that can be rebuilt, please do so.

Package  (co)maintainers

calendardcantrell, egoode
erlang-jose bowlofeggs, erlang-maint-sig, jcline, peter
ghdlsailer
git-secrets keesdejong
golang-github-acme-lego eclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-gatherstars-com-jwz   eclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-genuinetools-pkg  eclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-gobs-pretty   eclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-jhillyerd-enmime  eclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-pierrre-compare   eclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-smartystreets-goconvey  alexsaezm, go-sig, jchaloup
golang-gopkg-square-jose-2  alexsaezm, go-sig
golang-gvisor   eclipseo, elmarco, go-sig
golang-opentelemetry-otel-0.20  alexsaezm, go-sig
golang-sigs-k8s-kustomize   dcavalca, go-sig
golang-vitess   eclipseo, go-sig
infinipath-psm  honli
j4-dmenu-desktopibotty
jackson-dataformats-binary  mbooth
jackson-dataformats-textmbooth
java-1.8.0-openjdk-aarch32  akasko, jvanek
jreen   rdieter
libdeltacloud   clalance
mingw-clucene   greghellings
mingw-speexdsp  janisozaur
nbd-runner  xiubli
nodejs-generic-pool patches, piotrp
ofono   njha, thunderbirdtr
openni-primesense   cottsay, jkastner, rmattes
pesign-test-app javierm, nfrayer, pjones, rharwood
pthsem  ixs
rust-drgjbtrystram, rust-sig
telepathy-gabbleaperezbios

The following packages require above mentioned packages:
Depending on: erlang-jose (1)
erlang-p1_acme (maintained by: bowlofeggs, erlang-maint-sig, peter)
erlang-p1_acme-1.0.8-9.fc40.noarch requires erlang-jose
erlang-p1_acme-1.0.8-9.fc40.src requires erlang-jose

Depending on: golang-github-gatherstars-com-jwz (1)
aerc (maintained by: eclipseo, go-sig)
aerc-0.15.2-2.fc39.src requires 
golang(github.com/gatherstars-com/jwz)

Depending on: golang-github-genuinetools-pkg (1)
reg (maintained by: go-sig, infra-sig, mattia)
reg-0.16.1-15.fc40.src requires 
golang(github.com/genuinetools/pkg/cli)

Depending on: golang-github-gobs-pretty (2)
golang-github-vinyldns (maintained by: eclipseo, go-sig)
		golang-github-vinyldns-0.9.13-1.fc40.2.src requires 
golang(github.com/gobs/pretty)


golang-github-acme-lego (maintained by: eclipseo, go-sig)
		golang-github-acme-lego-4.4.0-8.fc37.src requires 
golang(github.com/vinyldns/go-vinyldns/vinyldns)
		golang-github-acme-lego-devel-4.4.0-8.fc37.noarch requires 
golang(github.com/vinyldns/go-vinyldns/vinyldns)


Depending on: golang-github-jhillyerd-enmime (2)
golang-github-gatherstars-com-jwz (maintained by: eclipseo, go-sig)
		golang-github-gatherstars-com-jwz-1.3.0-1.fc37.src requires 
golang(github.com/jhillyerd/enmime)


aerc (maintained by: eclipseo, go-sig)
aerc-0.15.2-2.fc39.src requires 
golang(github.com/gatherstars-com/jwz)

Depending on: golang-github-pierrre-compare (1)
golang-github-pierrre-geohash (maintained by: eclipseo, go-sig)
		golang-github-pierrre-geohash-1.0.0-9.fc40.src requires 
golang(github.com/pierrre/compare)


Depending on: golang-github-smartystreets-goconvey (23)
golang-github-afex-hystrix (maintained by: alexsaezm, go-sig)
		golang-github-afex-hystrix-0-0.14.20190622gitfa1af6a.fc40.src requires 
golang(github.com/smartystreets/goconvey/convey)

Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Mamoru TASAKA]

Miro Hrončok wrote on 2024/01/25 1:38:

Dear maintainers.

Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following packages
should be retired from Fedora 40 approximately one week before branching.

5 weekly reminders are required, hence the retirement will happen
approximately in 5 weeks, i.e. around 2024-02-28.
Since this is unfortunately after the branching,
packages will be retired on rawhide and f40.

I apologize for starting this process a bit later than required again.
Unfortunately, I had other work obligations.
Volunteers to take over this are always welcome.

Policy: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Fails_to_build_from_source_Fails_to_install/

The packages in rawhide were not successfully built at least since Fedora 37.

This report is based on dist tags.

Packages collected via:
https://github.com/hroncok/fedora-report-ftbfs-retirements/blob/master/ftbfs-retirements.ipynb

If you see a package that was built, please let me know.
If you see a package that should be exempted from the process,
please let me know and we can work together to get a FESCo approval for that.

If you see a package that can be rebuilt, please do so.

     Package  (co)maintainers




telepathy-gabble aperezbios

Depending on: telepathy-gabble (31)
 sugar (maintained by: aperezbios, chimosky)
     sugar-0.120-5.fc39.noarch requires telepathy-gabble

 sugar-abacus (maintained by: chimosky)
     sugar-abacus-61-9.fc39.noarch requires sugar





 Too many dependencies for telepathy-gabble, not all listed here



PR submitted to rescue SoaS spin:
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/telepathy-gabble/pull-request/2

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Mamoru
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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek]

On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 02:48:19PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 03:25:02PM +0100, Sandro wrote:
> > On 24-01-2024 17:38, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> > > Dear maintainers.
> > > 
> > > Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following
> > > packages
> > > should be retired from Fedora 40 approximately one week before branching.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > yaksa    zbyszek
> > 
> > I updated and build yaksa and checked that mpich is still building against
> > the updated version. We have quite a few packages depending on mpich in the
> > neuro-sig pool of packages, so we wouldn't want to see mpich going FTBFS.
> > 
> > @zbyszek, feel free to add neuro-sig as co-maintainers to the package. For
> > now there's a PR [1] for you.
> > 
> > [1] https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/yaksa/pull-request/1
> Thanks! I'll merge this when the CI passes.
> 
> I cannot log in to src.fp.o unfortunately, so I can't change the
> settings. I'll try to remember to do that later.

FTR, that's been done. The login worked, it was just rely slow.

Zbyszek
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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek]

On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 05:38:59PM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> infinipath-psm   honli

I think this project should be retired. The upstream repo has been archives
with a message that Intel no longer supports this project.

I'll rebuild mpich without this dependency.

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List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Miro Hrončok]

Dear maintainers.

Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following packages
should be retired from Fedora 40 approximately one week before branching.

5 weekly reminders are required, hence the retirement will happen
approximately in 5 weeks, i.e. around 2024-02-28.
Since this is unfortunately after the branching,
packages will be retired on rawhide and f40.

I apologize for starting this process a bit later than required again.
Unfortunately, I had other work obligations.
Volunteers to take over this are always welcome.

Policy: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Fails_to_build_from_source_Fails_to_install/


The packages in rawhide were not successfully built at least since Fedora 37.

This report is based on dist tags.

Packages collected via:
https://github.com/hroncok/fedora-report-ftbfs-retirements/blob/master/ftbfs-retirements.ipynb

If you see a package that was built, please let me know.
If you see a package that should be exempted from the process,
please let me know and we can work together to get a FESCo approval for that.

If you see a package that can be rebuilt, please do so.

Package  (co)maintainers

cl-asdf green
erlang-jose bowlofeggs, erlang-maint-sig, jcline, peter
fwtsbenzea
ghdlsailer
git-secrets  keesdejong
golang-github-acme-lego  eclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-eclesh-welford abulimov, dcavalca, go-sig
golang-github-gatherstars-com-jwzeclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-genuinetools-pkg   eclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-gobs-prettyeclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-google-gopacketgo-sig, salimma
golang-github-jhillyerd-enmime   eclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-pierrre-compareeclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-smartystreets-goconvey alexsaezm, go-sig, jchaloup
golang-gopkg-square-jose-2   alexsaezm, go-sig
golang-gvisoreclipseo, elmarco, go-sig
golang-opentelemetry-otel-0.20   alexsaezm, go-sig
golang-sigs-k8s-kustomizedcavalca, go-sig
golang-vitesseclipseo, go-sig
infinipath-psm   honli
j4-dmenu-desktop ibotty
jackson-dataformats-binary   mbooth
jackson-dataformats-text mbooth
java-1.8.0-openjdk-aarch32   akasko, jvanek
jreenrdieter
kdevelop-pg-qt   jgrulich, kde-sig, rdieter, than
libdeltacloudclalance
libva-v4l2-request   kwizart, rathann
lmms thm
lxc  hguemar, sagarun, thm
mingw-clucenegreghellings
mingw-cppunitkwizart
mingw-dirac  kwizart
mingw-speexdsp   janisozaur
nbd-runner   xiubli
nodejs-generic-pool  patches, piotrp
ofononjha, thunderbirdtr
openni-primesensecottsay, jkastner, rmattes
pcmciautils  harald
pesign-test-app  javierm, nfrayer, pjones, rwood
pthsem   ixs
rust-drg jbtrystram, rust-sig
telepathy-gabble aperezbios
yaksazbyszek

The following packages require above mentioned packages:
Depending on: cl-asdf (5)
common-lisp-controller (maintained by: green)
common-lisp-controller-7.4-26.fc39.noarch requires cl-asdf

emacs-slime (maintained by: bkreuter, salimma)
emacs-slime-2:2.28-2.fc39.noarch requires common-lisp-controller
emacs-slime-2:2.28-2.fc39.src requires common-lisp-controller

sbcl (maintained by: green, rdieter)
sbcl-2.3.11-1.fc40.src requires common-lisp-controller
sbcl-2.3.11-1.fc40.x86_64 requires common-lisp-controller

maxima (maintained by: jamatos, rdieter)
maxima-5.45.1-6.fc40.src requires sbcl

wxMaxima (maintained by: jamatos, rdieter)
wxMaxima-20.12.1-10.fc39.x86_64 requires maxima

Depending on: erlang-jose (1)
erlang-p1_acme (maintained by: bowlofeggs, erlang-maint-sig, peter)
erlang-p1_acme-1.0.8-6.fc38.noarch requires erlang-jose
erlang-p1_acme-1.0.8-6.fc38.src requires erlang-jose

Depending on: golang-github-eclesh-welford (1)
	golang-github-facebook-time (maintained by: abulimov, dcavalca, go-sig, 
leoleovich, salimma)
		golang-github-facebook-time-0^20240118git2f194ba-1.fc40.src requires 
golang(github.com/eclesh/welford)
		golang-github-facebook-time-devel-0^20240118git2f194ba-1.fc40.noarch requires 

Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Peter Robinson]

On Wed, 24 Jan 2024 at 16:39, Miro Hrončok  wrote:
>
> Dear maintainers.
>
> Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following packages
> should be retired from Fedora 40 approximately one week before branching.
>
> 5 weekly reminders are required, hence the retirement will happen
> approximately in 5 weeks, i.e. around 2024-02-28.
> Since this is unfortunately after the branching,
> packages will be retired on rawhide and f40.
>
> I apologize for starting this process a bit later than required again.
> Unfortunately, I had other work obligations.
> Volunteers to take over this are always welcome.
>
> Policy:
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Fails_to_build_from_source_Fails_to_install/
>
> The packages in rawhide were not successfully built at least since Fedora 37.
>
> This report is based on dist tags.
>
> Packages collected via:
> https://github.com/hroncok/fedora-report-ftbfs-retirements/blob/master/ftbfs-retirements.ipynb
>
> If you see a package that was built, please let me know.
> If you see a package that should be exempted from the process,
> please let me know and we can work together to get a FESCo approval for that.
>
> If you see a package that can be rebuilt, please do so.
>
>  Package  (co)maintainers
> 
> cl-asdf green
> erlang-jose bowlofeggs, erlang-maint-sig, jcline, 
> peter
> fwtsbenzea

I worked around the build failure for ftbfs and updated this package,
it doesn't like parallel builds, there's upstream reports but it
appears not to be getting attention from the maintainers even though
they're doing newer releases.

> ghdlsailer
> git-secrets  keesdejong
> golang-github-acme-lego  eclipseo, go-sig
> golang-github-eclesh-welford abulimov, dcavalca, go-sig
> golang-github-gatherstars-com-jwzeclipseo, go-sig
> golang-github-genuinetools-pkg   eclipseo, go-sig
> golang-github-gobs-prettyeclipseo, go-sig
> golang-github-google-gopacketgo-sig, salimma
> golang-github-jhillyerd-enmime   eclipseo, go-sig
> golang-github-pierrre-compareeclipseo, go-sig
> golang-github-smartystreets-goconvey alexsaezm, go-sig, jchaloup
> golang-gopkg-square-jose-2   alexsaezm, go-sig
> golang-gvisoreclipseo, elmarco, go-sig
> golang-opentelemetry-otel-0.20   alexsaezm, go-sig
> golang-sigs-k8s-kustomizedcavalca, go-sig
> golang-vitesseclipseo, go-sig
> infinipath-psm   honli
> j4-dmenu-desktop ibotty
> jackson-dataformats-binary   mbooth
> jackson-dataformats-text mbooth
> java-1.8.0-openjdk-aarch32   akasko, jvanek
> jreenrdieter
> kdevelop-pg-qt   jgrulich, kde-sig, rdieter, than
> libdeltacloudclalance
> libva-v4l2-request   kwizart, rathann
> lmms thm
> lxc  hguemar, sagarun, thm
> mingw-clucenegreghellings
> mingw-cppunitkwizart
> mingw-dirac  kwizart
> mingw-speexdsp   janisozaur
> nbd-runner   xiubli
> nodejs-generic-pool  patches, piotrp
> ofononjha, thunderbirdtr
> openni-primesensecottsay, jkastner, rmattes
> pcmciautils  harald
> pesign-test-app  javierm, nfrayer, pjones, rwood
> pthsem   ixs
> rust-drg jbtrystram, rust-sig
> telepathy-gabble aperezbios
> yaksazbyszek
>
> The following packages require above mentioned packages:
> Depending on: cl-asdf (5)
> common-lisp-controller (maintained by: green)
> common-lisp-controller-7.4-26.fc39.noarch requires cl-asdf
>
> emacs-slime (maintained by: bkreuter, salimma)
> emacs-slime-2:2.28-2.fc39.noarch requires 
> common-lisp-controller
> emacs-slime-2:2.28-2.fc39.src requires common-lisp-controller
>
> sbcl (maintained by: green, rdieter)
> sbcl-2.3.11-1.fc40.src requires common-lisp-controller
> sbcl-2.3.11-1.fc40.x86_64 requires common-lisp-controller
>
> maxima (maintained by: jamatos, rdieter)
> maxima-5.45.1-6.fc40.src requires sbcl
>
> wxMaxima (maintained by: jamatos, rdieter)
> wxMaxima-20.12.1-10.fc39.x86_64 requires maxima
>
> Depending on: erlang-jose (1)
> erlang-p1_acme (maintained by: bowlofeggs, erlang-maint-sig, peter)
>

Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Sérgio Basto]

On Wed, 2024-01-24 at 17:38 +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> lmms thm

I fixed the build ,  I base it on opensuse packages
https://build.opensuse.org/package/rdiff/openSUSE:Backports:SLE-15-SP6/lmms?linkrev=base=9


> lxc  hguemar, sagarun, thm

I'm also thinking update lxc from 4 to 5 based on
https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/openSUSE:Factory/lxc


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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek]

On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 03:25:02PM +0100, Sandro wrote:
> On 24-01-2024 17:38, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> > Dear maintainers.
> > 
> > Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following
> > packages
> > should be retired from Fedora 40 approximately one week before branching.
> 
> 
> 
> > yaksa    zbyszek
> 
> I updated and build yaksa and checked that mpich is still building against
> the updated version. We have quite a few packages depending on mpich in the
> neuro-sig pool of packages, so we wouldn't want to see mpich going FTBFS.
> 
> @zbyszek, feel free to add neuro-sig as co-maintainers to the package. For
> now there's a PR [1] for you.
> 
> [1] https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/yaksa/pull-request/1
Thanks! I'll merge this when the CI passes.

I cannot log in to src.fp.o unfortunately, so I can't change the
settings. I'll try to remember to do that later.

Zbyszek
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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Sandro]

On 24-01-2024 17:38, Miro Hrončok wrote:

Dear maintainers.

Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following 
packages

should be retired from Fedora 40 approximately one week before branching.





yaksa    zbyszek


I updated and build yaksa and checked that mpich is still building 
against the updated version. We have quite a few packages depending on 
mpich in the neuro-sig pool of packages, so we wouldn't want to see 
mpich going FTBFS.


@zbyszek, feel free to add neuro-sig as co-maintainers to the package. 
For now there's a PR [1] for you.


[1] https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/yaksa/pull-request/1

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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Orion Poplawski]

On 1/24/24 13:05, Miro Hrončok wrote:

On 24. 01. 24 19:00, Ralf Corsépius wrote:



Am 24.01.24 um 17:38 schrieb Miro Hrončok:

 Package  (co)maintainers




 freefem++ (maintained by: cicku, corsepiu)
 freefem++-openmpi-4.14-3.fc40.x86_64 requires 
libmpi.so.40()(64bit)(openmpi-x86_64)


WTH is this? Your script seems broken.


This is a 2-level deep dependency on a package that fails to build.

Thanks for your feedback. Occasionally, "my" script is broken, but what 
you reported is not actually incorrect. See further.



nor did it fail to build.


It did not. It depends on openmpi which depends on infinipath-psm which 
fails to build.


The openmpi dependency on infinipath-psm was vestigial and has been 
removed with openmpi-5.0.1-3.fc40.



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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Jerry James]

On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 2:28 PM Michel Lind  wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 10:35:09AM -0700, Jerry James wrote:
> > I fixed cl-asdf in Rawhide.
> Mind building it in F39 and F38 too? It fails to build there and there
> is one bug open for each

Sure, I can do that.  What we really ought to do is remove all
dependencies on this package and retire it.  It is ASDF 2.x.  AFAIK,
both ecl and sbcl ship with ASDF 3.x.  I'm not sure about gcl.

Anyway, that will take more work than I have time for right now.  I'll
add it to my TODO list.
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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Michel Lind]

On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 10:35:09AM -0700, Jerry James wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 9:39 AM Miro Hrončok  wrote:
> > Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following 
> > packages
> > should be retired from Fedora 40 approximately one week before branching.
> [snip]
> > cl-asdf green
> 
> I fixed cl-asdf in Rawhide.
Mind building it in F39 and F38 too? It fails to build there and there
is one bug open for each

Thanks,

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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Michel Lind]

On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 05:53:52PM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> On 24. 01. 24 17:50, Michel Lind wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 05:38:59PM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> > > Dear maintainers.
> > > 
> > > Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following 
> > > packages
> > > should be retired from Fedora 40 approximately one week before branching.
> > > 
> > [snip]
> > > golang-github-eclesh-welford abulimov, dcavalca, go-sig
> > I fixed this one last week - curious how it ended up on the
> > list?
> 
> No successful Rawhide build.
> 
Aha, thanks.

golang-github-google-gopacket is now built on Rawhide and stable
releases. Checking welford now.

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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Miro Hrončok]

On 24. 01. 24 19:00, Ralf Corsépius wrote:



Am 24.01.24 um 17:38 schrieb Miro Hrončok:

Dear maintainers.

Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following packages
should be retired from Fedora 40 approximately one week before branching.

5 weekly reminders are required, hence the retirement will happen
approximately in 5 weeks, i.e. around 2024-02-28.
Since this is unfortunately after the branching,
packages will be retired on rawhide and f40.

I apologize for starting this process a bit later than required again.
Unfortunately, I had other work obligations.
Volunteers to take over this are always welcome.

Policy: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Fails_to_build_from_source_Fails_to_install/


The packages in rawhide were not successfully built at least since Fedora 37.

This report is based on dist tags.

Packages collected via:
https://github.com/hroncok/fedora-report-ftbfs-retirements/blob/master/ftbfs-retirements.ipynb

If you see a package that was built, please let me know.
If you see a package that should be exempted from the process,
please let me know and we can work together to get a FESCo approval for that.

If you see a package that can be rebuilt, please do so.

 Package  (co)maintainers




 freefem++ (maintained by: cicku, corsepiu)
 freefem++-openmpi-4.14-3.fc40.x86_64 requires 
libmpi.so.40()(64bit)(openmpi-x86_64)


WTH is this? Your script seems broken.


This is a 2-level deep dependency on a package that fails to build.

Thanks for your feedback. Occasionally, "my" script is broken, but what you 
reported is not actually incorrect. See further.



Neither is cicku a maintainer of freefem++


They are listed as such at https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/freefem++


nor did it fail to build.


It did not. It depends on openmpi which depends on infinipath-psm which fails 
to build.


Actually 
this package had been built several times in recent months/weeks. Koji lists it 
as having been rebuilt today!


Correct.


And while we are at it: Why is cicku still listed as a maintainer?


I don't know.

He was removed from Fedora by force due to a FESCO decision many years ago. I 
don't recall the details, but this can easily be 10 years ago.


Then, perhaps the removal was not complete.

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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Jerry James]

On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 9:39 AM Miro Hrončok  wrote:
> Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following packages
> should be retired from Fedora 40 approximately one week before branching.
[snip]
> cl-asdf green

I fixed cl-asdf in Rawhide.
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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Miro Hrončok]

On 24. 01. 24 17:50, Michel Lind wrote:

On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 05:38:59PM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote:

Dear maintainers.

Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following packages
should be retired from Fedora 40 approximately one week before branching.


[snip]

golang-github-eclesh-welford abulimov, dcavalca, go-sig

I fixed this one last week - curious how it ended up on the
list?


No successful Rawhide build.


https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/?packages=golang-github-eclesh-welford

https://bugz.fedoraproject.org/golang-github-eclesh-welford shows no bug open
(though I noticed it just failed in the mass rebuild)


This report is not based on bugzillas, only Rawhide builds.

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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Michel Lind]

On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 05:38:59PM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> Dear maintainers.
> 
> Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following packages
> should be retired from Fedora 40 approximately one week before branching.
> 
[snip]
> golang-github-eclesh-welford abulimov, dcavalca, go-sig
I fixed this one last week - curious how it ended up on the
list?

https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/?packages=golang-github-eclesh-welford

https://bugz.fedoraproject.org/golang-github-eclesh-welford shows no bug open
(though I noticed it just failed in the mass rebuild)

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List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Miro Hrončok]

Dear maintainers.

Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following packages
should be retired from Fedora 40 approximately one week before branching.

5 weekly reminders are required, hence the retirement will happen
approximately in 5 weeks, i.e. around 2024-02-28.
Since this is unfortunately after the branching,
packages will be retired on rawhide and f40.

I apologize for starting this process a bit later than required again.
Unfortunately, I had other work obligations.
Volunteers to take over this are always welcome.

Policy: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Fails_to_build_from_source_Fails_to_install/


The packages in rawhide were not successfully built at least since Fedora 37.

This report is based on dist tags.

Packages collected via:
https://github.com/hroncok/fedora-report-ftbfs-retirements/blob/master/ftbfs-retirements.ipynb

If you see a package that was built, please let me know.
If you see a package that should be exempted from the process,
please let me know and we can work together to get a FESCo approval for that.

If you see a package that can be rebuilt, please do so.

Package  (co)maintainers

cl-asdf green
erlang-jose bowlofeggs, erlang-maint-sig, jcline, peter
fwtsbenzea
ghdlsailer
git-secrets  keesdejong
golang-github-acme-lego  eclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-eclesh-welford abulimov, dcavalca, go-sig
golang-github-gatherstars-com-jwzeclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-genuinetools-pkg   eclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-gobs-prettyeclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-google-gopacketgo-sig, salimma
golang-github-jhillyerd-enmime   eclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-pierrre-compareeclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-smartystreets-goconvey alexsaezm, go-sig, jchaloup
golang-gopkg-square-jose-2   alexsaezm, go-sig
golang-gvisoreclipseo, elmarco, go-sig
golang-opentelemetry-otel-0.20   alexsaezm, go-sig
golang-sigs-k8s-kustomizedcavalca, go-sig
golang-vitesseclipseo, go-sig
infinipath-psm   honli
j4-dmenu-desktop ibotty
jackson-dataformats-binary   mbooth
jackson-dataformats-text mbooth
java-1.8.0-openjdk-aarch32   akasko, jvanek
jreenrdieter
kdevelop-pg-qt   jgrulich, kde-sig, rdieter, than
libdeltacloudclalance
libva-v4l2-request   kwizart, rathann
lmms thm
lxc  hguemar, sagarun, thm
mingw-clucenegreghellings
mingw-cppunitkwizart
mingw-dirac  kwizart
mingw-speexdsp   janisozaur
nbd-runner   xiubli
nodejs-generic-pool  patches, piotrp
ofononjha, thunderbirdtr
openni-primesensecottsay, jkastner, rmattes
pcmciautils  harald
pesign-test-app  javierm, nfrayer, pjones, rwood
pthsem   ixs
rust-drg jbtrystram, rust-sig
telepathy-gabble aperezbios
yaksazbyszek

The following packages require above mentioned packages:
Depending on: cl-asdf (5)
common-lisp-controller (maintained by: green)
common-lisp-controller-7.4-26.fc39.noarch requires cl-asdf

emacs-slime (maintained by: bkreuter, salimma)
emacs-slime-2:2.28-2.fc39.noarch requires common-lisp-controller
emacs-slime-2:2.28-2.fc39.src requires common-lisp-controller

sbcl (maintained by: green, rdieter)
sbcl-2.3.11-1.fc40.src requires common-lisp-controller
sbcl-2.3.11-1.fc40.x86_64 requires common-lisp-controller

maxima (maintained by: jamatos, rdieter)
maxima-5.45.1-6.fc40.src requires sbcl

wxMaxima (maintained by: jamatos, rdieter)
wxMaxima-20.12.1-10.fc39.x86_64 requires maxima

Depending on: erlang-jose (1)
erlang-p1_acme (maintained by: bowlofeggs, erlang-maint-sig, peter)
erlang-p1_acme-1.0.8-6.fc38.noarch requires erlang-jose
erlang-p1_acme-1.0.8-6.fc38.src requires erlang-jose

Depending on: golang-github-eclesh-welford (1)
	golang-github-facebook-time (maintained by: abulimov, dcavalca, go-sig, 
leoleovich, salimma)
		golang-github-facebook-time-0^20240118git2f194ba-1.fc40.src requires 
golang(github.com/eclesh/welford)
		golang-github-facebook-time-devel-0^20240118git2f194ba-1.fc40.noarch requires 

Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February​

[Jens-Ulrik Petersen]

On Mon, Jan 30, 2023 at 9:26 AM Jens-Ulrik Petersen 
wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 30, 2023 at 4:09 AM Miro Hrončok  wrote:
>
>> On 29. 01. 23 18:15, Jens-Ulrik Petersen wrote:
>> > llvm11   jistone, petersen,
>> sergesanspaille, tstellar
>> > llvm12   petersen,
>> sergesanspaille,tstellar
>>
>
These have been built now already for Rawhide (along with llvm13) and
building now for current releases too.
Big thank you to Jerry James for his assistance - much appreciated.

Jens
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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February​

[Jens-Ulrik Petersen]

On Mon, Jan 30, 2023 at 6:47 PM Florian Weimer  wrote:

> * Jens-Ulrik Petersen:
> > which are still needed by various packages, the latter also including
> > ghc8.10-compiler.aarch64, ghc9.0-compiler.aarch64,
> > ghc9.2-compiler.s390x, and ghc9.4-compiler.s390x
>
> Isn't the LLVM code generator optional for GHC?  Could you just disable
> it?


No, it depends on the arch: it is needed for arm for ghc < 9.2 and for
s390x for ghc > 9.2.
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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February​

[Florian Weimer]

* Jens-Ulrik Petersen:

> On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 10:56 PM Miro Hrončok  wrote:
>
>  If you see a package that should be exempted from the process,
>  please let me know and we can work together to get a FESCo approval for that.
>
> I would like to request exemptions for:
>
>  llvm11   jistone, petersen, 
> sergesanspaille, tstellar
>  llvm12   petersen, sergesanspaille, 
> tstellar
>
> which are still needed by various packages, the latter also including
> ghc8.10-compiler.aarch64, ghc9.0-compiler.aarch64,
> ghc9.2-compiler.s390x, and ghc9.4-compiler.s390x

Isn't the LLVM code generator optional for GHC?  Could you just disable
it?

Thanks,
Florian
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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February​

[Jens-Ulrik Petersen]

On Mon, Jan 30, 2023 at 4:09 AM Miro Hrončok  wrote:

> On 29. 01. 23 18:15, Jens-Ulrik Petersen wrote:
> > I would like to request exemptions for:
> >
> > llvm11   jistone, petersen,
> sergesanspaille, tstellar
> > llvm12   petersen,
> sergesanspaille,tstellar
> >
> > which are still needed by various packages, the latter also including
> > ghc8.10-compiler.aarch64, ghc9.0-compiler.aarch64,
> ghc9.2-compiler.s390x, and
> > ghc9.4-compiler.s390x
>
> Could you please open a ticket at https://pagure.io/fesco/issues


Sure, I just opened https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2947


> Do you happen to know why the llvm versions haven't been built/buildable
> since F35?


Various tedious build errors on different archs, which don't look fun to
fix.
If someone has ideas and even better time to help, that would be really
great.

Jens
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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February​

[Miro Hrončok]

On 29. 01. 23 18:15, Jens-Ulrik Petersen wrote:
On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 10:56 PM Miro Hrončok > wrote:


If you see a package that should be exempted from the process,
please let me know and we can work together to get a FESCo approval for 
that.


I would like to request exemptions for:

llvm11                                           jistone, petersen,
sergesanspaille, tstellar
llvm12                                           petersen,
sergesanspaille,tstellar


which are still needed by various packages, the latter also including 
ghc8.10-compiler.aarch64, ghc9.0-compiler.aarch64, ghc9.2-compiler.s390x, and 
ghc9.4-compiler.s390x


Could you please open a ticket at https://pagure.io/fesco/issues

Do you happen to know why the llvm versions haven't been built/buildable since 
F35?

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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February​

[Jens-Ulrik Petersen]

On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 10:56 PM Miro Hrončok  wrote:

> If you see a package that should be exempted from the process,
> please let me know and we can work together to get a FESCo approval for
> that.


I would like to request exemptions for:

llvm11   jistone, petersen,
> sergesanspaille, tstellar
> llvm12   petersen, sergesanspaille,
> tstellar
>

which are still needed by various packages, the latter also including
ghc8.10-compiler.aarch64, ghc9.0-compiler.aarch64, ghc9.2-compiler.s390x,
and ghc9.4-compiler.s390x

Jens
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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February​

[Vít Ondruch]

Dne 26. 01. 23 v 23:40 Gary Buhrmaster napsal(a):

On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 10:08 PM Miro Hrončok  wrote:


Some packagers do set the bugzillas to ASSIGNED to get rid of the reminders and
then they forget to actually fix the FTBFS, cannot figure out how to fix it,
are blocked on externalities that never happen, etc.

Perhaps ASSIGNED should not get rid of
reminders quite that easily?



I am certainly guilty of using ASSIGNED to get rid of reminders. 
Generally, if I leave some packages in FTBFS state, there is probably 
some reason and it is not because I just don't care of forget about them.



Vít



   I am all in
favor of reminders that can be deferred
for a time (other priorities happen), but
one should not be able to permanently
defer the reminders if the work is not yet
completed.
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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February​

[Kevin Fenzi]

On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 11:07:34PM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> 
> Unfortunately, as seen by the lenght of the packages listed in my emails,
> thsi is not always the case.

Yeah. ;( 

> Some packagers do set the bugzillas to ASSIGNED to get rid of the reminders
> and then they forget to actually fix the FTBFS, cannot figure out how to fix
> it, are blocked on externalities that never happen, etc.

Yep. Can happen to us all. 

> Oh but they are different. FTBFS are not urgent and the policy is only set
> to retire packages that FTBFS for more than 2 release cycles.
> 
> For a package to be considered for retirement in February 23, it would have
> to fail to build:
> 
>  - During the Fedora 36 mass rebuild in January 22.
>  - During the Fedora 37 mass rebuild in July 22.
>  - During the Fedora 38 mass rebuild in January 23.
> 
> That is not urgent, that is "not being fixed".

Right.

> We can make this even longer, but I don't think it'll make a difference --
> eventually we will just get a list of packages that aren't beign fixed, but
> for a longer time.

Yeah, no... 

kevin


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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February​

[Gary Buhrmaster]

On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 10:08 PM Miro Hrončok  wrote:

> Some packagers do set the bugzillas to ASSIGNED to get rid of the reminders 
> and
> then they forget to actually fix the FTBFS, cannot figure out how to fix it,
> are blocked on externalities that never happen, etc.

Perhaps ASSIGNED should not get rid of
reminders quite that easily?  I am all in
favor of reminders that can be deferred
for a time (other priorities happen), but
one should not be able to permanently
defer the reminders if the work is not yet
completed.
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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February​

[Kalev Lember]

On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 11:08 PM Miro Hrončok  wrote:

> Oh but they are different. FTBFS are not urgent and the policy is only set
> to
> retire packages that FTBFS for more than 2 release cycles.
>
> For a package to be considered for retirement in February 23, it would
> have to
> fail to build:
>
>   - During the Fedora 36 mass rebuild in January 22.
>   - During the Fedora 37 mass rebuild in July 22.
>   - During the Fedora 38 mass rebuild in January 23.
>
> That is not urgent, that is "not being fixed".
>
> We can make this even longer, but I don't think it'll make a difference --
> eventually we will just get a list of packages that aren't beign fixed,
> but for
> a longer time.
>

No, please don't make it longer. I think it's fine as is. If it's any
longer then we get packages that cannot be built from source at all, not
even on F36 in this example, and this can lead to very bad situations if
some urgent reason comes up to rebuild them.

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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February​

[Miro Hrončok]

On 26. 01. 23 20:29, Kevin Fenzi wrote:

On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 10:21:27AM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote:

On 26. 01. 23 4:51, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote:

On Tue, 2023-01-24 at 15:55 +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote:

Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following
packages
should be retired from Fedora 38 approximately one week before branching.

5 weekly reminders are required, hence the retirement will happen
approximately in 2 weeks, i.e. around 2023-02-08.
Since this is unfortunately after the branching,
packages will be retired on rawhide and f38.

Policy:
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Fails_to_build_from_source_Fails_to_install/


Why isn't automatic orphaning at the beginning of this countdown part of this
policy, so that others have the chance to take and fix the package?  If
someone (other than the maintainer, who should already be well aware) were to
just now notice that one of these packages were about to be retired, there
isn't really enough time to go through the BZ route to get it orphaned first.


That is a good question.

The original idea is that FTBFS packages are orphaned when the maintainers
don't respond to the FTBFS bugzillas. But many do set the bugzillas to
ASSIGNED to avoid the orphaning or sometimes the FTBFS bugzillas are closed
in mistake or not opened at all.


Well, if it's ASSIGNED, you don't want to orphan it, the maintainer is
working on it right?


Unfortunately, as seen by the lenght of the packages listed in my emails, thsi 
is not always the case.


Some packagers do set the bugzillas to ASSIGNED to get rid of the reminders and 
then they forget to actually fix the FTBFS, cannot figure out how to fix it, 
are blocked on externalities that never happen, etc.



I suppose orphaning the packages first would make perfect sense, but the
devil is in the details. I suppose packagers might feel bad if suddenly
"their" packages are orphaned without any reminder or warning of some sort.


Yeah, I think that would be quite bad.


So we would need to modify the policy from:

1. warn
2. warn
3. warn
4. warn
5. warn
6. retire

To something like:

1. warn
2. warn
3. warn
4. orphan
5. warn
6. warn
7. warn
8. retire

And make the process much longer. And we would need to figure out what to do
if the package is taken (unorphaned) in between 4. and 8. without being
fixed.


I suppose FTBFS is less urgent and FTI bugs... perhaps they should be
different in this process?


Oh but they are different. FTBFS are not urgent and the policy is only set to 
retire packages that FTBFS for more than 2 release cycles.


For a package to be considered for retirement in February 23, it would have to 
fail to build:


 - During the Fedora 36 mass rebuild in January 22.
 - During the Fedora 37 mass rebuild in July 22.
 - During the Fedora 38 mass rebuild in January 23.

That is not urgent, that is "not being fixed".

We can make this even longer, but I don't think it'll make a difference -- 
eventually we will just get a list of packages that aren't beign fixed, but for 
a longer time.


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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February​

[Kevin Fenzi]

On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 10:21:27AM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> On 26. 01. 23 4:51, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote:
> > On Tue, 2023-01-24 at 15:55 +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> > > Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following
> > > packages
> > > should be retired from Fedora 38 approximately one week before branching.
> > > 
> > > 5 weekly reminders are required, hence the retirement will happen
> > > approximately in 2 weeks, i.e. around 2023-02-08.
> > > Since this is unfortunately after the branching,
> > > packages will be retired on rawhide and f38.
> > > 
> > > Policy:
> > > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Fails_to_build_from_source_Fails_to_install/
> > 
> > Why isn't automatic orphaning at the beginning of this countdown part of 
> > this
> > policy, so that others have the chance to take and fix the package?  If
> > someone (other than the maintainer, who should already be well aware) were 
> > to
> > just now notice that one of these packages were about to be retired, there
> > isn't really enough time to go through the BZ route to get it orphaned 
> > first.
> 
> That is a good question.
> 
> The original idea is that FTBFS packages are orphaned when the maintainers
> don't respond to the FTBFS bugzillas. But many do set the bugzillas to
> ASSIGNED to avoid the orphaning or sometimes the FTBFS bugzillas are closed
> in mistake or not opened at all.

Well, if it's ASSIGNED, you don't want to orphan it, the maintainer is
working on it right?

> I suppose orphaning the packages first would make perfect sense, but the
> devil is in the details. I suppose packagers might feel bad if suddenly
> "their" packages are orphaned without any reminder or warning of some sort.

Yeah, I think that would be quite bad. 

> So we would need to modify the policy from:
> 
> 1. warn
> 2. warn
> 3. warn
> 4. warn
> 5. warn
> 6. retire
> 
> To something like:
> 
> 1. warn
> 2. warn
> 3. warn
> 4. orphan
> 5. warn
> 6. warn
> 7. warn
> 8. retire
> 
> And make the process much longer. And we would need to figure out what to do
> if the package is taken (unorphaned) in between 4. and 8. without being
> fixed.

I suppose FTBFS is less urgent and FTI bugs... perhaps they should be
different in this process?

kevin


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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February​

[Miro Hrončok]

On 26. 01. 23 4:51, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote:

On Tue, 2023-01-24 at 15:55 +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote:

Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following
packages
should be retired from Fedora 38 approximately one week before branching.

5 weekly reminders are required, hence the retirement will happen
approximately in 2 weeks, i.e. around 2023-02-08.
Since this is unfortunately after the branching,
packages will be retired on rawhide and f38.

Policy:
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Fails_to_build_from_source_Fails_to_install/


Why isn't automatic orphaning at the beginning of this countdown part of this
policy, so that others have the chance to take and fix the package?  If
someone (other than the maintainer, who should already be well aware) were to
just now notice that one of these packages were about to be retired, there
isn't really enough time to go through the BZ route to get it orphaned first.


That is a good question.

The original idea is that FTBFS packages are orphaned when the maintainers 
don't respond to the FTBFS bugzillas. But many do set the bugzillas to ASSIGNED 
to avoid the orphaning or sometimes the FTBFS bugzillas are closed in mistake 
or not opened at all.


I suppose orphaning the packages first would make perfect sense, but the devil 
is in the details. I suppose packagers might feel bad if suddenly "their" 
packages are orphaned without any reminder or warning of some sort. So we would 
need to modify the policy from:


1. warn
2. warn
3. warn
4. warn
5. warn
6. retire

To something like:

1. warn
2. warn
3. warn
4. orphan
5. warn
6. warn
7. warn
8. retire

And make the process much longer. And we would need to figure out what to do if 
the package is taken (unorphaned) in between 4. and 8. without being fixed.



I am deliberately avoiding the option to modify the policy to:

1. warn
2. warn
3. warn
4. warn
5. warn
6. orphan
7. wait
8. wait
9. wait
10. wait
11. wait
12. retire via the orphan policy

Because folks will take the packages (and not fix them) between 6. and 12. -- 
it is often done by the previous maintainers (I don't really understand why) or 
by new maintainers who take the package without realizing they have been 
orphaned due to FTBFS.




free42   brouhaha
gtkhash  nonamedotc
kguitar  davidcornette
kjots    kde-sig, thunderbirdtr
kmplayer moceap, rdieter
libmobi  avsej
xml-security-c   bruno, kloczek


PRs have been posted for these.



Thanks. Since this is all done by a human you can just give me a definitive lit 
of package you want to maintain instead of letting them be retired and I can 
assign them to you and let you merge the PRs instead of retiring them. That 
offer stands for anybody.


However, note that I would very much prefer if you followed the nonresponsive 
maintainer policy -- that way other packages might become available to 
responsive maintainers.


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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February​

[Yaakov Selkowitz]

On Tue, 2023-01-24 at 15:55 +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following
> packages
> should be retired from Fedora 38 approximately one week before branching.
> 
> 5 weekly reminders are required, hence the retirement will happen
> approximately in 2 weeks, i.e. around 2023-02-08.
> Since this is unfortunately after the branching,
> packages will be retired on rawhide and f38.
> 
> Policy: 
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Fails_to_build_from_source_Fails_to_install/

Why isn't automatic orphaning at the beginning of this countdown part of this
policy, so that others have the chance to take and fix the package?  If
someone (other than the maintainer, who should already be well aware) were to
just now notice that one of these packages were about to be retired, there
isn't really enough time to go through the BZ route to get it orphaned first.

> free42   brouhaha
> gtkhash  nonamedotc
> kguitar  davidcornette
> kjots    kde-sig, thunderbirdtr
> kmplayer moceap, rdieter
> libmobi  avsej
> xml-security-c   bruno, kloczek

PRs have been posted for these.

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Principal Software Engineer - Platform Enablement
Red Hat, Inc.

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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February​

[Susi Lehtola]

On 1/25/23 13:04, Alexander Ploumistos wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 3:56 PM Miro Hrončok  wrote:
>>
>> IQmoljussilehtola
> 
> I'm leaving this comment in case Susi (Cc) didn't get the previous
> mail like last time. I know that they're working with upstream to
> package the next version of IQmol, so this should be resolved sooner
> or later.

Hi,

yes, un-addressed mail (bcc) is insufficient to contact package maintainers;
thanks for the ping. I am aware of the issue thanks to Bugzilla, and am actively
working to find a resolution.

The current problem is that libQGLViewer (cc'd) was last updated 5 years ago,
and the up-to-date version of IQmol that supports OpenBabel3 needs a more recent
version of libQGLViewer.

Susi
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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February​

[Alexander Ploumistos]

On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 3:56 PM Miro Hrončok  wrote:
>
> IQmoljussilehtola

I'm leaving this comment in case Susi (Cc) didn't get the previous
mail like last time. I know that they're working with upstream to
package the next version of IQmol, so this should be resolved sooner
or later.
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List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February​

[Miro Hrončok]

Dear maintainers.

Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following packages
should be retired from Fedora 38 approximately one week before branching.

5 weekly reminders are required, hence the retirement will happen
approximately in 2 weeks, i.e. around 2023-02-08.
Since this is unfortunately after the branching,
packages will be retired on rawhide and f38.

This is the second reminder. I apologize for starting this process a bit later 
than required.


Policy: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Fails_to_build_from_source_Fails_to_install/


The packages in rawhide were not successfully built at least since Fedora 35.

This report is based on dist tags.

Packages collected via:
https://github.com/hroncok/fedora-report-ftbfs-retirements/blob/master/ftbfs-retirements.ipynb

If you see a package that was built, please let me know.
If you see a package that should be exempted from the process,
please let me know and we can work together to get a FESCo approval for that.

If you see a package that can be rebuilt, please do so.

Package  (co)maintainers
===
ArpONfab, sagarun
IQmoljussilehtola
alevtlucilanga
bowtie   jaruga, verdurin
btkbdd   lkundrak
cave9jonathanspw
ccrypt   fab
cjdnssdgathman
datamash jhladky
erlpmd   peter
free42   brouhaha
frogrteuf
goddifab, go-sig
golang-github-adroll-goamz   eclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-aphistic-sweet eclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-aws-sdk-2-0.24 eclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-cheekybits-genny   eclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-cockroachdb-gostdlib   eclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-cosmos72-gomacro   go-sig, qulogic
golang-github-dave-dst   eclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-docker-licensing   eclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-gdamore-optopiafab, go-sig
golang-github-gopherjs   eclipseo, go-sig, jchaloup
golang-github-jung-kurt-gofpdf   eclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-latex  eclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-maruel-panicparse  eclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-maruel-panicparse-2eclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-mattermost-xml-roundtrip-validator eclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-mholt-certmagic-0.8eclipseo, go-sig
golang-gonum-1-plot  eclipseo, go-sig
golang-helm-3dcavalca, go-sig
golang-istio-pkg eclipseo, go-sig
golang-sigs-k8s-application  eclipseo, go-sig
golang-sigs-k8s-controller-runtime   eclipseo, go-sig
gtkhash  nonamedotc
howl atim, pwalter
httpdump fab, go-sig
ipmiutil arcress
irssi-xmpp   lbazan, maha
kguitar  davidcornette
kjotskde-sig, thunderbirdtr
kmplayer moceap, rdieter
libmobi  avsej
libmodulemd1 sgallagh
libndn-cxx   susmit
libsafec aekoroglu, jhli
libyami  kwizart
libyami-utilskwizart
llvm10   petersen, sergesanspaille
llvm11   jistone, petersen,
 sergesanspaille, tstellar
llvm12   petersen, sergesanspaille,
 tstellar
llvm9.0  jistone, petersen, tstellar
lucidlifepgordon
maven-scmmizdebsk, trawets
mimicpbrobinson
nall chkr
nodejs-tape  fab, patches
openas2  

List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February​

[Miro Hrončok]

Dear maintainers.

Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following packages
should be retired from Fedora 38 approximately one week before branching.

5 weekly reminders are required, hence the retirement will happen
approximately in 2 weeks, i.e. around 2023-02-08.
Since this is unfortunately after the branching,
packages will be retired on rawhide and f38.

This is the second reminder. I apologize for starting this process a bit later 
than required.


Policy: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Fails_to_build_from_source_Fails_to_install/


The packages in rawhide were not successfully built at least since Fedora 35.

This report is based on dist tags.

Packages collected via:
https://github.com/hroncok/fedora-report-ftbfs-retirements/blob/master/ftbfs-retirements.ipynb

If you see a package that was built, please let me know.
If you see a package that should be exempted from the process,
please let me know and we can work together to get a FESCo approval for that.

If you see a package that can be rebuilt, please do so.

Package  (co)maintainers
===
ArpONfab, sagarun
IQmoljussilehtola
alevtlucilanga
bowtie   jaruga, verdurin
btkbdd   lkundrak
cave9jonathanspw
ccrypt   fab
cjdnssdgathman
datamash jhladky
erlpmd   peter
free42   brouhaha
frogrteuf
goddifab, go-sig
golang-github-adroll-goamz   eclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-aphistic-sweet eclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-aws-sdk-2-0.24 eclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-cheekybits-genny   eclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-cockroachdb-gostdlib   eclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-cosmos72-gomacro   go-sig, qulogic
golang-github-dave-dst   eclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-docker-licensing   eclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-gdamore-optopiafab, go-sig
golang-github-gopherjs   eclipseo, go-sig, jchaloup
golang-github-jung-kurt-gofpdf   eclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-latex  eclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-maruel-panicparse  eclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-maruel-panicparse-2eclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-mattermost-xml-roundtrip-validator eclipseo, go-sig
golang-github-mholt-certmagic-0.8eclipseo, go-sig
golang-gonum-1-plot  eclipseo, go-sig
golang-helm-3dcavalca, go-sig
golang-istio-pkg eclipseo, go-sig
golang-sigs-k8s-application  eclipseo, go-sig
golang-sigs-k8s-controller-runtime   eclipseo, go-sig
gtkhash  nonamedotc
howl atim, pwalter
httpdump fab, go-sig
ipmiutil arcress
irssi-xmpp   lbazan, maha
kguitar  davidcornette
kjotskde-sig, thunderbirdtr
kmplayer moceap, rdieter
libmobi  avsej
libmodulemd1 sgallagh
libndn-cxx   susmit
libsafec aekoroglu, jhli
libyami  kwizart
libyami-utilskwizart
llvm10   petersen, sergesanspaille
llvm11   jistone, petersen,
 sergesanspaille, tstellar
llvm12   petersen, sergesanspaille,
 tstellar
llvm9.0  jistone, petersen, tstellar
lucidlifepgordon
maven-scmmizdebsk, trawets
mimicpbrobinson
nall chkr
nodejs-tape  fab, patches
openas2  

Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February​

[Mikolaj Izdebski]

On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 12:22 AM Jerry James  wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 9:52 PM Jerry James  wrote:
> > > maven-scm  mizdebsk, trawets
> >
> > For those affected by this, I've made a COPR with a possible
> > resolution: 
> > https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/jjames/buildnumber-maven-plugin/.
> > Things to note:
> >
> > - plexus-interactivity must be unretired.
> > - I first tried updating maven-scm to version 1.13.0, but it requires
> > an older version of jgit than we have in Fedora Rawhide.  It would not
> > build.  I had to go to 2.0.0-M3 to get a successful build.
> > - There is a possible XMvn bug affecting maven-scm.  See the comment
> > in the %build section.  There are duplicate entries in .xmvn-reactor
> > for every pom.xml that includes pom.  I'm not
> > certain if this is an XMvn bug, or if the maven-scm pom.xml files are
> > wrong somehow.
> > - buildnumber-maven-plugin version 1.4 was too old, so I moved all the
> > way to 3.0.0.  Even then, it needed a small patch to work with
> > maven-scm 2.0.0.
> >
> > Or we can all remove mvn-scm and buildnumber-maven-plugin from our
> > respective packages' POMs.
>
> I should note that I intend to do the latter for jakarta-json.  If
> somebody wants to keep maven-scm or buildnumber-maven-plugin in
> Fedora, feel free to take anything you want from that COPR, remove my
> name, and slap your own in there.  I'm not going to do it, however.

I am in favor of removing buildnumber-maven-plugin.
In all my packages this plugin is explicitly disabled as it is not
very useful for building Fedora packages.

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>
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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February​

[Jerry James]

On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 9:52 PM Jerry James  wrote:
> > maven-scm  mizdebsk, trawets
>
> For those affected by this, I've made a COPR with a possible
> resolution: 
> https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/jjames/buildnumber-maven-plugin/.
> Things to note:
>
> - plexus-interactivity must be unretired.
> - I first tried updating maven-scm to version 1.13.0, but it requires
> an older version of jgit than we have in Fedora Rawhide.  It would not
> build.  I had to go to 2.0.0-M3 to get a successful build.
> - There is a possible XMvn bug affecting maven-scm.  See the comment
> in the %build section.  There are duplicate entries in .xmvn-reactor
> for every pom.xml that includes pom.  I'm not
> certain if this is an XMvn bug, or if the maven-scm pom.xml files are
> wrong somehow.
> - buildnumber-maven-plugin version 1.4 was too old, so I moved all the
> way to 3.0.0.  Even then, it needed a small patch to work with
> maven-scm 2.0.0.
>
> Or we can all remove mvn-scm and buildnumber-maven-plugin from our
> respective packages' POMs.

I should note that I intend to do the latter for jakarta-json.  If
somebody wants to keep maven-scm or buildnumber-maven-plugin in
Fedora, feel free to take anything you want from that COPR, remove my
name, and slap your own in there.  I'm not going to do it, however.

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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February​

[Jerry James]

On Wed, Jan 18, 2023 at 5:58 AM Miro Hrončok  wrote:
> Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following packages
> should be retired from Fedora 38 approximately one week before branching.

[snip]

> maven-scm  mizdebsk, trawets

For those affected by this, I've made a COPR with a possible
resolution: 
https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/jjames/buildnumber-maven-plugin/.
Things to note:

- plexus-interactivity must be unretired.
- I first tried updating maven-scm to version 1.13.0, but it requires
an older version of jgit than we have in Fedora Rawhide.  It would not
build.  I had to go to 2.0.0-M3 to get a successful build.
- There is a possible XMvn bug affecting maven-scm.  See the comment
in the %build section.  There are duplicate entries in .xmvn-reactor
for every pom.xml that includes pom.  I'm not
certain if this is an XMvn bug, or if the maven-scm pom.xml files are
wrong somehow.
- buildnumber-maven-plugin version 1.4 was too old, so I moved all the
way to 3.0.0.  Even then, it needed a small patch to work with
maven-scm 2.0.0.

Or we can all remove mvn-scm and buildnumber-maven-plugin from our
respective packages' POMs.


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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February​

[Miro Hrončok]

On 18. 01. 23 14:29, Olivier Fourdan wrote:

On Wed, Jan 18, 2023 at 2:20 PM Miro Hrončok  wrote:

[…]

I've triggered the build (any packager can do that):

$ koji build rawhide --nowait --fail-fast
'git+https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/xorg-x11-drv-qxl.git#d7716591515d97b5cc4a146fbcf3ee7ca18f1808'
Created task: 96293694
Task info: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=96293694


Then I guess the issue is sorted now.


Yes, thank you!

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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February​

[Olivier Fourdan]

On Wed, Jan 18, 2023 at 2:20 PM Miro Hrončok  wrote:
> […]
>
> I've triggered the build (any packager can do that):
>
> $ koji build rawhide --nowait --fail-fast
> 'git+https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/xorg-x11-drv-qxl.git#d7716591515d97b5cc4a146fbcf3ee7ca18f1808'
> Created task: 96293694
> Task info: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=96293694

Then I guess the issue is sorted now.

Cheers
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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February​

[Miro Hrončok]

On 18. 01. 23 14:16, Olivier Fourdan wrote:

Hi

On Wed, Jan 18, 2023 at 1:58 PM Miro Hrončok  wrote:


Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following packages
should be retired from Fedora 38 approximately one week before branching.

5 weekly reminders are required, hence the retirement will happen
approximately in 5 weeks, i.e. around 2023-02-08.
Since this is unfortunately after the branching,
packages will be retired on rawhide and f38.

This is the second reminder. I apologize for starting this process a bit later
than required.

Policy:
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Fails_to_build_from_source_Fails_to_install/

The packages in rawhide were not successfully built at least since Fedora 35.

This report is based on dist tags.
[…]
xorg-x11-drv-qxl   airlied, alon, elmarco,
 jwrdegoede, ssp, teuf,
 victortoso


I had filed https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/xorg-x11-drv-qxl/pull-request/2
to fix the build in rawhide and Victor merged it 5 days ago.

The scratch built worked:
https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=96082966

I can't find the build there though
https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=9868


I've triggered the build (any packager can do that):

$ koji build rawhide --nowait --fail-fast 
'git+https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/xorg-x11-drv-qxl.git#d7716591515d97b5cc4a146fbcf3ee7ca18f1808'

Created task: 96293694
Task info: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=96293694

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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February​

[Olivier Fourdan]

Hi

On Wed, Jan 18, 2023 at 1:58 PM Miro Hrončok  wrote:
>
> Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following packages
> should be retired from Fedora 38 approximately one week before branching.
>
> 5 weekly reminders are required, hence the retirement will happen
> approximately in 5 weeks, i.e. around 2023-02-08.
> Since this is unfortunately after the branching,
> packages will be retired on rawhide and f38.
>
> This is the second reminder. I apologize for starting this process a bit later
> than required.
>
> Policy:
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Fails_to_build_from_source_Fails_to_install/
>
> The packages in rawhide were not successfully built at least since Fedora 35.
>
> This report is based on dist tags.
> […]
> xorg-x11-drv-qxl   airlied, alon, elmarco,
> jwrdegoede, ssp, teuf,
> victortoso

I had filed https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/xorg-x11-drv-qxl/pull-request/2
to fix the build in rawhide and Victor merged it 5 days ago.

The scratch built worked:
https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=96082966

I can't find the build there though
https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=9868

Cheers
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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February​

[Miro Hrončok]

On 18. 01. 23 14:06, Neal Gompa wrote:

ngompa: xorg-x11-drv-qxl, golang-gopkg-mgo-2

Uhh, what? Why am I associated with the QXL driver?


livecd-tools -> lorax -> lorax -> anaconda -> xorg-x11-drivers -> 
xorg-x11-drv-qxl

livecd-tools (maintained by: bcl, bruno, ngompa)
python-imgcreate-sysdeps-1:31.0-2.fc37.x86_64 requires lorax = 38.4-2.fc38

lorax (maintained by: bcl, clumens, dcantrell, dshea, wwoods)
lorax-lmc-novirt-38.4-2.fc38.x86_64 requires anaconda-core = 38.15-1.fc38, 
anaconda-install-env-deps = 38.15-1.fc38, anaconda-tui = 38.15-1.fc38


anaconda (maintained by: anaconda-maint, jkonecny, m4rtink, rvykydal, 
vladimirslavik, vponcova)
anaconda-install-img-deps-38.15-1.fc38.x86_64 requires xorg-x11-drivers = 
2022-3.fc38



xorg-x11-drivers (maintained by: airlied, ajax, alexl, caolanm, glisse, 
mbarnes, rhughes, rstrode, ssp, whot)

xorg-x11-drivers-2022-3.fc38.x86_64 requires xorg-x11-drv-qxl = 
0.1.5-20.fc35

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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February​

[Neal Gompa]

On Wed, Jan 18, 2023 at 7:58 AM Miro Hrončok  wrote:
>
> Dear maintainers.
>
> Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following packages
> should be retired from Fedora 38 approximately one week before branching.
>
> 5 weekly reminders are required, hence the retirement will happen
> approximately in 5 weeks, i.e. around 2023-02-08.
> Since this is unfortunately after the branching,
> packages will be retired on rawhide and f38.
>
> This is the second reminder. I apologize for starting this process a bit later
> than required.
>
> Policy:
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Fails_to_build_from_source_Fails_to_install/
>
> The packages in rawhide were not successfully built at least since Fedora 35.
>
> This report is based on dist tags.
>
> Packages collected via:
> https://github.com/hroncok/fedora-report-ftbfs-retirements/blob/master/ftbfs-retirements.ipynb
>
> If you see a package that was built, please let me know.
> If you see a package that should be exempted from the process,
> please let me know and we can work together to get a FESCo approval for that.

[...]

> ngompa: xorg-x11-drv-qxl, golang-gopkg-mgo-2

Uhh, what? Why am I associated with the QXL driver?


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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Jens-Ulrik Petersen]

On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 8:59 PM Miro Hrončok  wrote:

> llvm10   petersen, sergesanspaille
>
Probably okay to drop at this point.

> llvm11   jistone, petersen, 
> sergesanspaille,
> tstellar
> llvm12   petersen, sergesanspaille,
> tstellar
>
These two are also still in use by ghc for some archs: aarch64 (ghc,
ghc8.10, ghc9.0) and s390x (ghc9.2 and ghc9.4).
Though I am planning to move them to only llvm12 at least for F38.

Anyway I think I may be able to workaround these by disabling the testsuite
probably...

llvm9.0  jistone, petersen, tstellar

I think this could be retired now.  At least I am not aware of any
remaining dependents.

Jens
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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Petr Šabata]

On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 1:59 PM Miro Hrončok  wrote:
>
> Dear maintainers.
>
> Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following packages
> should be retired from Fedora 38 approximately one week before branching.
>
> tabbed   psabata

Okay, finally fixed tabbed tonight (#2047035).
P
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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Olivier Fourdan]

On Sun, Jan 15, 2023 at 4:50 PM Kevin Kofler via devel
 wrote:
>
> Olivier Fourdan wrote:
> > Actually… I suspect fixing that build failure would require a fix in
> > the xserver from ajax [1]
>
> Actually, this is the fix that is needed:
> https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-video-qxl/-/commit/4e1963a812f2c1777ba5d56ea9e939a3e40a0496
>
> (This is the xf86-video-qxl fixing the build with the xorg-x11-server commit
> you linked to.)

Actually, It's sorted already, for both xorg-x11-dev-qxl and
xorg-x11-drv-vmware:

https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/xorg-x11-drv-qxl/pull-request/2
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/xorg-x11-drv-vmware/pull-request/1

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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Kevin Kofler via devel]

Olivier Fourdan wrote:
> Actually… I suspect fixing that build failure would require a fix in
> the xserver from ajax [1]

Actually, this is the fix that is needed:
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-video-qxl/-/commit/4e1963a812f2c1777ba5d56ea9e939a3e40a0496

(This is the xf86-video-qxl fixing the build with the xorg-x11-server commit 
you linked to.)

Kevin Kofler
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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Tomáš Popela]

On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 5:46 PM Michel Alexandre Salim <
sali...@fedoraproject.org> wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 01:58:51PM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> > Dear maintainers.
> >
> > Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following
> packages
> > should be retired from Fedora 38 approximately one week before branching.
> >
> > 5 weekly reminders are required, hence the retirement will happen
> > approximately in 5 weeks, i.e. around 2023-02-08.
> > Since this is unfortunately after the branching,
> > packages will be retired on rawhide and f38.
> >
> > I apologize for starting this process a bit later than required.
> >
> > Policy:
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Fails_to_build_from_source_Fails_to_install/
> >
> > libgnome alexl, caolanm,
> gnome-sig,
> >  mbarnes, rhughes,
> rstrode,
> >  ssp, trawets
>
> I was initially thinking I should just retire grhino, which has not been
> updated since 2010 and will be affected by libgnome retirement, but...
> there's a lot of other packages that will be affected if libgnome is
> pulled.
>
> Is it still worth maintaining? If libgnome should be retired I guess we
> should proactively retire them now rather than waiting after the mass
> rebuild then having to untag packages from f38 too.
>

We (gnome-sig) have already and proactively retired the libgnome package
and others few weeks ago -
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/RKCWXFPGLMAMHYYSRLRFEGWU4UFNY3V7/
- but they were then taken by others.
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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Josh Boyer]

On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 2:02 PM Miro Hrončok  wrote:
>
> On 11. 01. 23 17:52, Mattia Verga via devel wrote:
> > Il 11/01/23 13:58, Miro Hrončok ha scritto:
> >> sigulkevin, mitr
> >
> > Retiring this would blow up Fedora infrastructure... the FTB/FTI is
> > being worked on, but it depends on python-nss to be un-retired and the
> > package review for that is in progress (just approved a few days ago).
> >
> > Can you just remove it from the list to stay on the safe side?
>
> Retiring it from rawhide would not change anything in the infrastructure at 
> all
> considering the package does not currently even install.

Thank you for saying this.  I know Mattia's concerns are valid in the
long run, but we tend to lean into hyperbole a lot on the list and I
think we'd be better off avoiding it when we can :)

Mattia, thank you also for raising the larger concern.

josh

> I trust it will be fixed in time, I am watching the nss review request (it has
> been approved).
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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Miro Hrončok]

On 11. 01. 23 17:52, Mattia Verga via devel wrote:

Il 11/01/23 13:58, Miro Hrončok ha scritto:

sigulkevin, mitr


Retiring this would blow up Fedora infrastructure... the FTB/FTI is
being worked on, but it depends on python-nss to be un-retired and the
package review for that is in progress (just approved a few days ago).

Can you just remove it from the list to stay on the safe side?


Retiring it from rawhide would not change anything in the infrastructure at all 
considering the package does not currently even install.


I trust it will be fixed in time, I am watching the nss review request (it has 
been approved).


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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Maxwell G via devel]

On Wed Jan 11, 2023 at 13:58 +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> golang-github-d2g-dhcp4servereclipseo, go-sig

I need a package review to fix this: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2160202


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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Maxwell G via devel]

On Wed Jan 11, 2023 at 13:58 +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following packages

> should be retired from Fedora 38 approximately one week before branching.
> golang-github-gin-gonic  eclipseo, go-sig

I've fixed this: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2045509

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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Mattia Verga via devel]

Il 11/01/23 13:58, Miro Hrončok ha scritto:
> sigulkevin, mitr

Retiring this would blow up Fedora infrastructure... the FTB/FTI is
being worked on, but it depends on python-nss to be un-retired and the
package review for that is in progress (just approved a few days ago).

Can you just remove it from the list to stay on the safe side?

Thanks
Mattia

[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2133080

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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Michel Alexandre Salim]

On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 01:58:51PM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> Dear maintainers.
> 
> Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following packages
> should be retired from Fedora 38 approximately one week before branching.
> 
> 5 weekly reminders are required, hence the retirement will happen
> approximately in 5 weeks, i.e. around 2023-02-08.
> Since this is unfortunately after the branching,
> packages will be retired on rawhide and f38.
> 
> I apologize for starting this process a bit later than required.
> 
> Policy: 
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Fails_to_build_from_source_Fails_to_install/
> 
> libgnome alexl, caolanm, gnome-sig,
>  mbarnes, rhughes, rstrode,
>  ssp, trawets

I was initially thinking I should just retire grhino, which has not been
updated since 2010 and will be affected by libgnome retirement, but...
there's a lot of other packages that will be affected if libgnome is
pulled.

Is it still worth maintaining? If libgnome should be retired I guess we
should proactively retire them now rather than waiting after the mass
rebuild then having to untag packages from f38 too.

> Depending on: libgnome (32), status change: 2022-11-29 (6 weeks ago)
>   GtkAda (maintained by: rombobeorn)
>   GtkAda-2.24.2-40.fc37.src requires libgnome-devel = 
> 2.32.1-23.fc35
> 
>   alleyoop (maintained by: orphan)
>   alleyoop-0.9.8-20.fc37.x86_64 requires libgnome-2.so.0()(64bit)
> 
>   cbrpager (maintained by: mtasaka)
>   cbrpager-0.9.22-25.fc37.x86_64 requires libgnome-2.so.0()(64bit)
> 
>   celestia (maintained by: astro-sig, mattia, steve)
>   celestia-1.6.2-0.8.beta3.fc37.x86_64 requires 
> libgnome-2.so.0()(64bit)
> 
>   cellwriter (maintained by: limb)
>   cellwriter-1.3.6-4.fc37.src requires libgnome-devel = 
> 2.32.1-23.fc35
> 
>   gnome-sharp (maintained by: caolanm, gnome-sig, laxathom, mbarnes, 
> rhughes,
> rstrode, ssp, tpokorra)
>   gnome-sharp-2.24.2-31.fc37.x86_64 requires 
> libgnome-2.so.0()(64bit)
> 
>   gnome-translate (maintained by: buc)
>   gnome-translate-0.99-41.fc37.x86_64 requires 
> libgnome-2.so.0()(64bit)
> 
>   grhino (maintained by: salimma)
>   grhino-0.16.1-15.fc37.x86_64 requires libgnome-2.so.0()(64bit)
> 
... list continues for too long

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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Davide Cavalca]

On 2023-01-11 04:58, Miro Hrončok wrote:

golang-helm-3go-sig, orphan


I'll take another stab at updating this one over the weekend.


libv3270 dcavalca


Will fix this, thanks for the heads up.

Cheers
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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Kalev Lember]

On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 5:02 PM Mamoru TASAKA 
wrote:

> Kalev Lember wrote on 2023/01/12 0:03:
> > Hi Mamoru,
> >
> > Out of curiosity, why? Do you actually need libgnome? I was hoping it
> would
> > get removed this cycle so we can finally stop shipping the old gnome 2
> > library stack.
> >
>
> For example, a (rather old) package "fantasdic" I maintain depends on
> libgnome
> as:
> fantasdic <- ruby-gnome2 <- libgnome
> Other example is cbrpager <- libgnomeui <- libgnome
>

Ah, makes sense then :) Thanks!

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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Mamoru TASAKA]

Kalev Lember wrote on 2023/01/12 0:03:

On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 3:51 PM Mamoru TASAKA 
wrote:


Miro Hrončok wrote on 2023/01/11 21:58:

libgnome alexl, caolanm,

gnome-sig,

   mbarnes, rhughes,

rstrode,

I've just fixed now:
https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=2109750



Hi Mamoru,

Out of curiosity, why? Do you actually need libgnome? I was hoping it would
get removed this cycle so we can finally stop shipping the old gnome 2
library stack.



For example, a (rather old) package "fantasdic" I maintain depends on libgnome
as:
fantasdic <- ruby-gnome2 <- libgnome
Other example is cbrpager <- libgnomeui <- libgnome

Regards,
Mamoru
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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Kalev Lember]

On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 3:51 PM Mamoru TASAKA 
wrote:

> Miro Hrončok wrote on 2023/01/11 21:58:
> > libgnome alexl, caolanm,
> gnome-sig,
> >   mbarnes, rhughes,
> rstrode,
>
> I've just fixed now:
> https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=2109750


Hi Mamoru,

Out of curiosity, why? Do you actually need libgnome? I was hoping it would
get removed this cycle so we can finally stop shipping the old gnome 2
library stack.

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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Olivier Fourdan]

On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 3:53 PM Olivier Fourdan  wrote:
>
> Hi Fabio,
>
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 3:32 PM Fabio Valentini  wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 3:07 PM Olivier Fourdan  wrote:
> > >
> > > We could just remove xorg-x11-drv-qxl from the list of drivers pulled
> > > in from xorg-x11-drivers, wdyt?
> >
> > Aren't QXL the default graphics when setting up a Fedora VM with
> > libvirt (i.e. gnome-boxes and virt-manager)?
> > Maybe letting that driver get removed isn't a good idea ...
>
> I guess the xorg modesetting driver should work for that case, no?
>
> I thought the QXL xorg driver was removed, but if it is supposed
> to be installed, then it should remain in the list of dependencies for
> xorg-x11-drivers of course.
>
> FWIW, xorg-x11-drv-qxl fails to build, but I'll leave that to its
> maintainer(s) to sort out.

Actually… I suspect fixing that build failure would require a fix in
the xserver from ajax [1]

Cheers
Olivier

[1] 
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/commit/454b3a826edb5fc6d0fea3a9cfd1a5e8fc568747
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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Miro Hrončok]

On 11. 01. 23 15:51, Mamoru TASAKA wrote:

Miro Hrončok wrote on 2023/01/11 21:58:

Dear maintainers.

Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following packages
should be retired from Fedora 38 approximately one week before branching.

5 weekly reminders are required, hence the retirement will happen
approximately in 5 weeks, i.e. around 2023-02-08.
Since this is unfortunately after the branching,
packages will be retired on rawhide and f38.

I apologize for starting this process a bit later than required.

Policy: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Fails_to_build_from_source_Fails_to_install/


The packages in rawhide were not successfully built at least since Fedora 35.

This report is based on dist tags.

Packages collected via:
https://github.com/hroncok/fedora-report-ftbfs-retirements/blob/master/ftbfs-retirements.ipynb

If you see a package that was built, please let me know.
If you see a package that should be exempted from the process,
please let me know and we can work together to get a FESCo approval for that.

If you see a package that can be rebuilt, please do so.

 Package  (co)maintainers




libgnome alexl, caolanm, gnome-sig,
  mbarnes, rhughes, rstrode,


I've just fixed now:
https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=2109750


Thank you!

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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Olivier Fourdan]

Hi Fabio,

On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 3:32 PM Fabio Valentini  wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 3:07 PM Olivier Fourdan  wrote:
> >
> > We could just remove xorg-x11-drv-qxl from the list of drivers pulled
> > in from xorg-x11-drivers, wdyt?
>
> Aren't QXL the default graphics when setting up a Fedora VM with
> libvirt (i.e. gnome-boxes and virt-manager)?
> Maybe letting that driver get removed isn't a good idea ...

I guess the xorg modesetting driver should work for that case, no?

I thought the QXL xorg driver was removed, but if it is supposed
to be installed, then it should remain in the list of dependencies for
xorg-x11-drivers of course.

FWIW, xorg-x11-drv-qxl fails to build, but I'll leave that to its
maintainer(s) to sort out.

Cheers
Olivier


Olivier
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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Mamoru TASAKA]

Miro Hrončok wrote on 2023/01/11 21:58:

Dear maintainers.

Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following packages
should be retired from Fedora 38 approximately one week before branching.

5 weekly reminders are required, hence the retirement will happen
approximately in 5 weeks, i.e. around 2023-02-08.
Since this is unfortunately after the branching,
packages will be retired on rawhide and f38.

I apologize for starting this process a bit later than required.

Policy: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Fails_to_build_from_source_Fails_to_install/

The packages in rawhide were not successfully built at least since Fedora 35.

This report is based on dist tags.

Packages collected via:
https://github.com/hroncok/fedora-report-ftbfs-retirements/blob/master/ftbfs-retirements.ipynb

If you see a package that was built, please let me know.
If you see a package that should be exempted from the process,
please let me know and we can work together to get a FESCo approval for that.

If you see a package that can be rebuilt, please do so.

     Package  (co)maintainers




libgnome alexl, caolanm, gnome-sig,
  mbarnes, rhughes, rstrode,


I've just fixed now:
https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=2109750

Mamoru
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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Daniel P . Berrangé]

On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 03:31:46PM +0100, Fabio Valentini wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 3:07 PM Olivier Fourdan  wrote:
> >
> > We could just remove xorg-x11-drv-qxl from the list of drivers pulled
> > in from xorg-x11-drivers, wdyt?
> 
> Aren't QXL the default graphics when setting up a Fedora VM with
> libvirt (i.e. gnome-boxes and virt-manager)?
> Maybe letting that driver get removed isn't a good idea ...

A virtual QXL device can be driven by a generic VGA driver.  The QXL
2d acceleration primitives are not worth using in modern OS which are
only really interested in 3d acceleration, so the xorg qxl driver is
not a blocker. Some further details in:

  https://www.kraxel.org/blog/2019/09/display-devices-in-qemu/

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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Fabio Valentini]

On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 3:07 PM Olivier Fourdan  wrote:
>
> We could just remove xorg-x11-drv-qxl from the list of drivers pulled
> in from xorg-x11-drivers, wdyt?

Aren't QXL the default graphics when setting up a Fedora VM with
libvirt (i.e. gnome-boxes and virt-manager)?
Maybe letting that driver get removed isn't a good idea ...

Fabio
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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Miro Hrončok]

On 11. 01. 23 15:02, Vít Ondruch wrote:

I would not ask if this was true...


Sorry, my fault, I brainfarted.

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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Olivier Fourdan]

Hi Miro,

On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 2:03 PM Miro Hrončok  wrote:
>
> On 11. 01. 23 13:58, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> > Dear maintainers.
> >
> > Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following 
> > packages
> > should be retired from Fedora 38 approximately one week before branching.
> >
> > ...
> > Depending on: xorg-x11-drv-qxl (16), status change: 2020-04-02 (144 weeks 
> > ago)
> >  xorg-x11-drivers (maintained by: airlied, ajax, alexl, caolanm, glisse,
> > mbarnes, rhughes, rstrode, ssp, whot)
> >  xorg-x11-drivers-2022-3.fc38.x86_64 requires xorg-x11-drv-qxl =
> > 0.1.5-20.fc35
> >
> >  anaconda (maintained by: anaconda-maint, jkonecny, m4rtink, rvykydal,
> > vladimirslavik, vponcova)
> >  anaconda-install-img-deps-38.14-1.fc38.x86_64 requires
> > xorg-x11-drivers = 2022-3.fc38
> >
> >  anaconda-realmd (maintained by: stefw, vpodzime)
> >  anaconda-realmd-0.2-18.fc37.noarch requires anaconda = 38.14-1.fc38
> >
> >  initial-setup (maintained by: jkonecny, m4rtink, rvykydal, vpodzime)
> >  initial-setup-0.3.95-2.fc37.x86_64 requires anaconda-tui = 
> > 38.14-1.fc38
> >  initial-setup-gui-0.3.95-2.fc37.x86_64 requires anaconda-gui =
> > 38.14-1.fc38
> >
> >  kdump-anaconda-addon (maintained by: coiby, kasong)
> >  kdump-anaconda-addon-006-7.20220714git7ca2d3e.fc37.noarch requires
> > anaconda = 38.14-1.fc38
> >
> >  lorax (maintained by: bcl, clumens, dcantrell, dshea, wwoods)
> >  lorax-lmc-novirt-38.4-2.fc38.x86_64 requires anaconda-core =
> > 38.14-1.fc38, anaconda-install-env-deps = 38.14-1.fc38, anaconda-tui =
> > 38.14-1.fc38
> >
> >  oscap-anaconda-addon (maintained by: evgenyz, jcerny, matyc, mlysonek,
> > vpodzime, vpolasek, wsato)
> >  oscap-anaconda-addon-1.0-12.fc37.noarch requires anaconda-core =
> > 38.14-1.fc38
> >  oscap-anaconda-addon-1.0-12.fc37.src requires anaconda-core =
> > 38.14-1.fc38
> >
> >  pungi (maintained by: dmach, hlin, lsedlar, maxamillion, onosek, 
> > tdawson,
> > wwoods)
> >  pungi-4.3.7-1.fc38.src requires lorax = 38.4-2.fc38
> >
> >  livecd-tools (maintained by: bcl, bruno, ngompa)
> >  python-imgcreate-sysdeps-1:31.0-2.fc37.x86_64 requires lorax =
> > 38.4-2.fc38
> >
> >  bodhi-server (maintained by: abompard, humaton, lenkaseg)
> >  bodhi-composer-6.0.1-4.fc38.noarch requires pungi = 4.3.7-1.fc38
> >
> >  module-build-service (maintained by: breilly, mikem)
> >  module-build-service-3.8.0-1.fc38.noarch requires python3-pungi =
> > 4.3.7-1.fc38
> >  module-build-service-3.8.0-1.fc38.src requires python3-pungi =
> > 4.3.7-1.fc38
> >
> >  odcs (maintained by: cqi, fivaldi, hlin, jkaluza, lsedlar, qwan)
> >  odcs-0.3.6-3.fc37.noarch requires pungi = 4.3.7-1.fc38
> >
> >  appliance-tools (maintained by: ngompa)
> >  appliance-tools-011.1-9.fc37.noarch requires python3-imgcreate =
> > 1:31.0-2.fc37
> >
> >  flatpak-module-tools (maintained by: kalev, otaylor)
> >  flatpak-module-tools-0.13-6.fc37.noarch requires 
> > module-build-service
> > = 3.8.0-1.fc38
> >
> >  cekit (maintained by: goldmann, rnc)
> >  cekit-4.5.0-1.fc38.noarch requires python3.11dist(odcs) = 0.3.6
> >
> >  atomic-reactor (maintained by: cverna, infra-sig, kevin, maxamillion,
> > twaugh, vrutkovs)
> >  python3-atomic-reactor-3.14.0-2.fc38.noarch requires
> > python3.11dist(flatpak-module-tools) = 0.13
> >
> > Depending on: xorg-x11-drv-vmware (16), status change: 2022-01-24 (50 weeks 
> > ago)
> >  xorg-x11-drivers (maintained by: airlied, ajax, alexl, caolanm, glisse,
> > mbarnes, rhughes, rstrode, ssp, whot)
> >  xorg-x11-drivers-2022-3.fc38.x86_64 requires xorg-x11-drv-vmware =
> > 13.2.1-16.fc35
> >
> >  anaconda (maintained by: anaconda-maint, jkonecny, m4rtink, rvykydal,
> > vladimirslavik, vponcova)
> >  anaconda-install-img-deps-38.14-1.fc38.x86_64 requires
> > xorg-x11-drivers = 2022-3.fc38
> >
> >  anaconda-realmd (maintained by: stefw, vpodzime)
> >  anaconda-realmd-0.2-18.fc37.noarch requires anaconda = 38.14-1.fc38
> >
> >  initial-setup (maintained by: jkonecny, m4rtink, rvykydal, vpodzime)
> >  initial-setup-0.3.95-2.fc37.x86_64 requires anaconda-tui = 
> > 38.14-1.fc38
> >  initial-setup-gui-0.3.95-2.fc37.x86_64 requires anaconda-gui =
> > 38.14-1.fc38
> >
> >  kdump-anaconda-addon (maintained by: coiby, kasong)
> >  kdump-anaconda-addon-006-7.20220714git7ca2d3e.fc37.noarch requires
> > anaconda = 38.14-1.fc38
> >
> >  lorax (maintained by: bcl, clumens, dcantrell, dshea, wwoods)
> >  lorax-lmc-novirt-38.4-2.fc38.x86_64 requires anaconda-core =
> > 38.14-1.fc38, anaconda-install-env-deps = 38.14-1.fc38, anaconda-tui =
> > 38.14-1.fc38
> >
> >  oscap-anaconda-addon (maintained by: evgenyz, jcerny, matyc, mlysonek,
> > vpodzime, vpolasek, wsato)
> >  

Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Vít Ondruch]

Dne 11. 01. 23 v 14:40 Miro Hrončok napsal(a):

On 11. 01. 23 14:34, Vít Ondruch wrote:


Dne 11. 01. 23 v 13:58 Miro Hrončok napsal(a):

coffee-script patches, vondruch



Could you please exclude this ^^ from the list?


I am afraid I can't exclude packages just like that. If you believe 
this package should be exempted from the policy I would need some 
reasoning for that.


While this package is on life support, removing it won't make the 
situation any better :/


Nothing seems to depend on it in Fedora. What's the point of keeping it?



I would not ask if this was true, however:


~~~

$ sudo dnf repoquery --disablerepo=* --enablerepo=rawhide 
--enablerepo=rawhide-source --whatrequires js-coffee-script

Last metadata expiration check: 0:02:28 ago on Wed Jan 11 14:51:48 2023.
coffee-script-0:1.10.0-17.fc35.noarch
rubygem-coffee-script-source-0:1.10.0-14.fc37.noarch
rubygem-coffee-script-source-0:1.10.0-14.fc37.src

~~~


but also:


~~~

$ sudo dnf repoquery --disablerepo=* --enablerepo=rawhide 
--enablerepo=rawhide-source --whatrequires coffee-script

Last metadata expiration check: 0:02:47 ago on Wed Jan 11 14:51:48 2023.
nodejs-diagnostic-language-server-0:1.13.0-3.fc37.src
perl-Mojolicious-Plugin-AssetPack-0:2.13-6.fc37.src
vim-syntastic-coffee-0:3.10.0-16.fc37.noarch

~~~


I have also looked into the FTBFS:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2045266#c5

And have got no response:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2123435




There also was rename/update attempt which was deferred for the time 
being.


Until when?



I don't think that coffee-script-source gem is going to be ever updated. 
So this would need to rename coffee-script to coffee-script1 and 
introduce the coffee-script. But that still means that the FTBFS needs 
to be fixed.


Maybe these dependencies could be dropped:

~~~
$ sudo dnf repoquery --disablerepo=* --enablerepo=rawhide 
--enablerepo=rawhide-source --whatrequires "rubygem-coffee-script-source"

Poslední kontrola metadat: před 0:06:25, St 2. listopadu 2022, 17:22:45.
rubygem-coffee-script-0:2.4.1-15.fc37.noarch
rubygem-coffee-script-0:2.4.1-15.fc37.src
rubygem-coffee-script-source-doc-0:1.10.0-14.fc37.noarch

$ sudo dnf repoquery --disablerepo=* --enablerepo=rawhide 
--enablerepo=rawhide-source --whatrequires "rubygem-coffee-script"

Poslední kontrola metadat: před 0:06:34, St 2. listopadu 2022, 17:22:45.
rubygem-actioncable-0:7.0.4-1.fc38.src
rubygem-coffee-script-doc-0:2.4.1-15.fc37.noarch
rubygem-sinatra-1:2.2.0-3.fc37.src
rubygem-sprockets-0:4.0.2-5.fc37.src
rubygem-tilt-0:2.0.10-8.fc37.src
~~~

But somebody would need to take a look at them a disable some of the 
test cases which would be impacted by dropping coffee-script.


Sorry, I don't have any better answer :/


Vít



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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Miro Hrončok]

On 11. 01. 23 14:34, Vít Ondruch wrote:


Dne 11. 01. 23 v 13:58 Miro Hrončok napsal(a):

coffee-script patches, vondruch



Could you please exclude this ^^ from the list?


I am afraid I can't exclude packages just like that. If you believe this 
package should be exempted from the policy I would need some reasoning for that.


While this package is on life 
support, removing it won't make the situation any better :/


Nothing seems to depend on it in Fedora. What's the point of keeping it?

There also was 
rename/update attempt which was deferred for the time being.


Until when?

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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Vít Ondruch]

Dne 11. 01. 23 v 13:58 Miro Hrončok napsal(a):

coffee-script patches, vondruch



Could you please exclude this ^^ from the list? While this package is on 
life support, removing it won't make the situation any better :/ There 
also was rename/update attempt which was deferred for the time being.


Thx


Vít



[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2139183



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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Zygmunt Krynicki]

W dniu 11.01.2023 o 13:58 Miro Hrončok pisze:
> Dear maintainers.
>
> Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following packages
> should be retired from Fedora 38 approximately one week before branching.

> zyga: zmk, golang-gopkg-mgo-2

Thank you for reminding me. I will address zmk later today, and look at 
golang-gopkg-mgo-2 but without strong promises.

Best regards
ZK
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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Miro Hrončok]

On 11. 01. 23 13:58, Miro Hrončok wrote:

Dear maintainers.

Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following packages
should be retired from Fedora 38 approximately one week before branching.

...
Depending on: xorg-x11-drv-qxl (16), status change: 2020-04-02 (144 weeks ago)
 xorg-x11-drivers (maintained by: airlied, ajax, alexl, caolanm, glisse, 
mbarnes, rhughes, rstrode, ssp, whot)
     xorg-x11-drivers-2022-3.fc38.x86_64 requires xorg-x11-drv-qxl = 
0.1.5-20.fc35


 anaconda (maintained by: anaconda-maint, jkonecny, m4rtink, rvykydal, 
vladimirslavik, vponcova)
     anaconda-install-img-deps-38.14-1.fc38.x86_64 requires 
xorg-x11-drivers = 2022-3.fc38


 anaconda-realmd (maintained by: stefw, vpodzime)
     anaconda-realmd-0.2-18.fc37.noarch requires anaconda = 38.14-1.fc38

 initial-setup (maintained by: jkonecny, m4rtink, rvykydal, vpodzime)
     initial-setup-0.3.95-2.fc37.x86_64 requires anaconda-tui = 38.14-1.fc38
     initial-setup-gui-0.3.95-2.fc37.x86_64 requires anaconda-gui = 
38.14-1.fc38


 kdump-anaconda-addon (maintained by: coiby, kasong)
     kdump-anaconda-addon-006-7.20220714git7ca2d3e.fc37.noarch requires 
anaconda = 38.14-1.fc38


 lorax (maintained by: bcl, clumens, dcantrell, dshea, wwoods)
     lorax-lmc-novirt-38.4-2.fc38.x86_64 requires anaconda-core = 
38.14-1.fc38, anaconda-install-env-deps = 38.14-1.fc38, anaconda-tui = 
38.14-1.fc38


 oscap-anaconda-addon (maintained by: evgenyz, jcerny, matyc, mlysonek, 
vpodzime, vpolasek, wsato)
     oscap-anaconda-addon-1.0-12.fc37.noarch requires anaconda-core = 
38.14-1.fc38
     oscap-anaconda-addon-1.0-12.fc37.src requires anaconda-core = 
38.14-1.fc38


 pungi (maintained by: dmach, hlin, lsedlar, maxamillion, onosek, tdawson, 
wwoods)

     pungi-4.3.7-1.fc38.src requires lorax = 38.4-2.fc38

 livecd-tools (maintained by: bcl, bruno, ngompa)
     python-imgcreate-sysdeps-1:31.0-2.fc37.x86_64 requires lorax = 
38.4-2.fc38


 bodhi-server (maintained by: abompard, humaton, lenkaseg)
     bodhi-composer-6.0.1-4.fc38.noarch requires pungi = 4.3.7-1.fc38

 module-build-service (maintained by: breilly, mikem)
     module-build-service-3.8.0-1.fc38.noarch requires python3-pungi = 
4.3.7-1.fc38
     module-build-service-3.8.0-1.fc38.src requires python3-pungi = 
4.3.7-1.fc38


 odcs (maintained by: cqi, fivaldi, hlin, jkaluza, lsedlar, qwan)
     odcs-0.3.6-3.fc37.noarch requires pungi = 4.3.7-1.fc38

 appliance-tools (maintained by: ngompa)
     appliance-tools-011.1-9.fc37.noarch requires python3-imgcreate = 
1:31.0-2.fc37


 flatpak-module-tools (maintained by: kalev, otaylor)
     flatpak-module-tools-0.13-6.fc37.noarch requires module-build-service 
= 3.8.0-1.fc38


 cekit (maintained by: goldmann, rnc)
     cekit-4.5.0-1.fc38.noarch requires python3.11dist(odcs) = 0.3.6

 atomic-reactor (maintained by: cverna, infra-sig, kevin, maxamillion, 
twaugh, vrutkovs)
     python3-atomic-reactor-3.14.0-2.fc38.noarch requires 
python3.11dist(flatpak-module-tools) = 0.13


Depending on: xorg-x11-drv-vmware (16), status change: 2022-01-24 (50 weeks ago)
 xorg-x11-drivers (maintained by: airlied, ajax, alexl, caolanm, glisse, 
mbarnes, rhughes, rstrode, ssp, whot)
     xorg-x11-drivers-2022-3.fc38.x86_64 requires xorg-x11-drv-vmware = 
13.2.1-16.fc35


 anaconda (maintained by: anaconda-maint, jkonecny, m4rtink, rvykydal, 
vladimirslavik, vponcova)
     anaconda-install-img-deps-38.14-1.fc38.x86_64 requires 
xorg-x11-drivers = 2022-3.fc38


 anaconda-realmd (maintained by: stefw, vpodzime)
     anaconda-realmd-0.2-18.fc37.noarch requires anaconda = 38.14-1.fc38

 initial-setup (maintained by: jkonecny, m4rtink, rvykydal, vpodzime)
     initial-setup-0.3.95-2.fc37.x86_64 requires anaconda-tui = 38.14-1.fc38
     initial-setup-gui-0.3.95-2.fc37.x86_64 requires anaconda-gui = 
38.14-1.fc38


 kdump-anaconda-addon (maintained by: coiby, kasong)
     kdump-anaconda-addon-006-7.20220714git7ca2d3e.fc37.noarch requires 
anaconda = 38.14-1.fc38


 lorax (maintained by: bcl, clumens, dcantrell, dshea, wwoods)
     lorax-lmc-novirt-38.4-2.fc38.x86_64 requires anaconda-core = 
38.14-1.fc38, anaconda-install-env-deps = 38.14-1.fc38, anaconda-tui = 
38.14-1.fc38


 oscap-anaconda-addon (maintained by: evgenyz, jcerny, matyc, mlysonek, 
vpodzime, vpolasek, wsato)
     oscap-anaconda-addon-1.0-12.fc37.noarch requires anaconda-core = 
38.14-1.fc38
     oscap-anaconda-addon-1.0-12.fc37.src requires anaconda-core = 
38.14-1.fc38


 pungi (maintained by: dmach, hlin, lsedlar, maxamillion, onosek, tdawson, 
wwoods)

     pungi-4.3.7-1.fc38.src requires lorax = 38.4-2.fc38

 livecd-tools (maintained by: bcl, bruno, ngompa)
     python-imgcreate-sysdeps-1:31.0-2.fc37.x86_64 requires lorax = 
38.4-2.fc38


 bodhi-server 

Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Miro Hrončok]

On 20. 01. 21 14:15, Chihurumnaya Ibiam wrote:

I'd like sugar-view-slides and sugar-visualmatch to be exempted as I'm working 
on
both.


Note that sugar-visualmatch was already retired when we had this conversation, 
because it was orphaned for 6+ weeks. No idea why it was still part of the 
report. You might want to unretire it.


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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Miro Hrončok]

On 20. 01. 21 17:50, Tom Callaway wrote:

Looks like VirtualGL was rebuilt:
https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=14293 



Yes, known. It will be no longer listed in the report next week.

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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Tom Callaway]

Looks like VirtualGL was rebuilt:
https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=14293

~spot

On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 3:57 PM Miro Hrončok  wrote:

> Dear maintainers.
>
> Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following
> packages
> will be retired from Fedora 34 approximately one week before branching
> (February
> 2021).
>
> Policy:
>
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Fails_to_build_from_source_Fails_to_install/
>
> Note that some listed packages are orphaned and hence may be retired even
> sooner.
>
> The packages in rawhide were not successfully built at least since Fedora
> 32.
>
> This report is based on dist tags.
>
> Packages collected via:
>
> https://github.com/hroncok/fedora-report-ftbfs-retirements/blob/master/ftbfs-retirements.ipynb
>
> If you see a package that was built, please let me know.
> If you see a package that should be exempted from the process, please let
> me
> know and we can work together to get a FESCo approval for that.
>
> If you see a package that can be rebuilt, please do so.
>
>Package  (co)maintainers
> Latest build
>
> ===
> VirtualGL   gsgatlin   Fedora
> 31
> boo elsupergomez, orphan, tpokorra Fedora
> 31
> gmpcorphan Fedora
> 31
> jboss-servlet-2.5-api   dmoluguw, orphan   Fedora
> 31
> js-html5shivorphan Fedora
> 31
> js-respond  orphan Fedora
> 31
> nodejs-info-symbol  orphan Fedora
> 31
> nodejs-interpretnodejs-sig, orphan Fedora
> 31
> nodejs-net-browserify-alt   orphan Fedora
> 31
> nodejs-win-spawnnodejs-sig, orphan Fedora
> 31
> rubygem-net-ssh-multi   maxamillion, orphan, tdawson   Fedora
> 31
> sugar-flipstickscallkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinson,   Fedora
> 31
>   tuxbrewr
> sugar-getiabookscallkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinson,   Fedora
> 31
>   tuxbrewr
> sugar-infoslicercallkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinson,   Fedora
> 31
>   tuxbrewr
> sugar-labyrinth callkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinsonFedora
> 31
> sugar-ruler callkalpa, chimoskyFedora
> 31
> sugar-starchart callkalpa, chimosky, orphanFedora
> 31
> sugar-view-slides   callkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinson,   Fedora
> 31
>   tuxbrewr
> sugar-visualmatch   chimosky, orphan   Fedora
> 31
> sugar-yupanacallkalpa, chimosky, orphanFedora
> 31
>
>
> The following packages require above mentioned packages:
>
> Depending on: js-html5shiv (1)
> copr-frontend (maintained by: clime, copr-sig, dturecek, frostyx,
> msuchy, praiskup)
> copr-frontend-1.171-1.fc34.noarch requires js-html5shiv
>
> Depending on: nodejs-info-symbol (2)
> nodejs-log-utils (maintained by: orphan)
> nodejs-log-utils-0.2.1-6.fc32.noarch requires
> npm(info-symbol)
>
> nodejs-time-diff (maintained by: orphan)
> nodejs-time-diff-0.3.1-7.fc32.src requires npm(info-symbol)
>
> Depending on: nodejs-interpret (1)
> nodejs-shelljs (maintained by: fab, nodejs-sig, patches)
> nodejs-shelljs-0.8.4-2.fc33.noarch requires npm(interpret)
>
>
> Affected (co)maintainers (directly and indirectly):
> callkalpa: sugar-labyrinth, sugar-yupana, sugar-ruler, sugar-flipsticks,
> sugar-view-slides, sugar-infoslicer, sugar-starchart, sugar-getiabooks
> chimosky: sugar-labyrinth, sugar-yupana, sugar-ruler, sugar-flipsticks,
> sugar-view-slides, sugar-visualmatch, sugar-infoslicer, sugar-starchart,
> sugar-getiabooks
> clime: js-html5shiv
> copr-sig: js-html5shiv
> dmoluguw: jboss-servlet-2.5-api
> dturecek: js-html5shiv
> elsupergomez: boo
> fab: nodejs-interpret
> frostyx: js-html5shiv
> gsgatlin: VirtualGL
> maxamillion: rubygem-net-ssh-multi
> msuchy: js-html5shiv
> nodejs-sig: nodejs-win-spawn, nodejs-interpret
> patches: nodejs-interpret
> pbrobinson: sugar-labyrinth, sugar-flipsticks, sugar-view-slides,
> sugar-infoslicer, sugar-getiabooks
> praiskup: js-html5shiv
> tdawson: rubygem-net-ssh-multi
> tpokorra: boo
> tuxbrewr: sugar-view-slides, sugar-infoslicer, sugar-getiabooks,
> sugar-flipsticks
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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Miro Hrončok]

On 20. 01. 21 14:23, Chihurumnaya Ibiam wrote:

Yes I expect to have it done during the Fedora 34 release cycle.


OK, I won't bother FESCo with an exception request and will simply postpone the 
two retirements. Note that they will still be included in reports.


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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Chihurumnaya Ibiam]

Yes I expect to have it done during the Fedora 34 release cycle.

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On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 2:18 PM Miro Hrončok  wrote:

> On 20. 01. 21 14:15, Chihurumnaya Ibiam wrote:
> > I'd like sugar-view-slides and sugar-visualmatch to be exempted as I'm
> working on
> > both.
>
> When do you expect to have it done? E.g. is it during the Fedora 34
> release cycle?
>
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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Miro Hrončok]

On 20. 01. 21 14:15, Chihurumnaya Ibiam wrote:

I'd like sugar-view-slides and sugar-visualmatch to be exempted as I'm working 
on
both.


When do you expect to have it done? E.g. is it during the Fedora 34 release 
cycle?

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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Chihurumnaya Ibiam]

I'd like sugar-view-slides and sugar-visualmatch to be exempted as I'm
working on
both.

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On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 9:57 PM Miro Hrončok  wrote:

> Dear maintainers.
>
> Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following
> packages
> will be retired from Fedora 34 approximately one week before branching
> (February
> 2021).
>
> Policy:
>
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Fails_to_build_from_source_Fails_to_install/
>
> Note that some listed packages are orphaned and hence may be retired even
> sooner.
>
> The packages in rawhide were not successfully built at least since Fedora
> 32.
>
> This report is based on dist tags.
>
> Packages collected via:
>
> https://github.com/hroncok/fedora-report-ftbfs-retirements/blob/master/ftbfs-retirements.ipynb
>
> If you see a package that was built, please let me know.
> If you see a package that should be exempted from the process, please let
> me
> know and we can work together to get a FESCo approval for that.
>
> If you see a package that can be rebuilt, please do so.
>
>Package  (co)maintainers
> Latest build
>
> ===
> VirtualGL   gsgatlin   Fedora
> 31
> boo elsupergomez, orphan, tpokorra Fedora
> 31
> gmpcorphan Fedora
> 31
> jboss-servlet-2.5-api   dmoluguw, orphan   Fedora
> 31
> js-html5shivorphan Fedora
> 31
> js-respond  orphan Fedora
> 31
> nodejs-info-symbol  orphan Fedora
> 31
> nodejs-interpretnodejs-sig, orphan Fedora
> 31
> nodejs-net-browserify-alt   orphan Fedora
> 31
> nodejs-win-spawnnodejs-sig, orphan Fedora
> 31
> rubygem-net-ssh-multi   maxamillion, orphan, tdawson   Fedora
> 31
> sugar-flipstickscallkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinson,   Fedora
> 31
>   tuxbrewr
> sugar-getiabookscallkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinson,   Fedora
> 31
>   tuxbrewr
> sugar-infoslicercallkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinson,   Fedora
> 31
>   tuxbrewr
> sugar-labyrinth callkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinsonFedora
> 31
> sugar-ruler callkalpa, chimoskyFedora
> 31
> sugar-starchart callkalpa, chimosky, orphanFedora
> 31
> sugar-view-slides   callkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinson,   Fedora
> 31
>   tuxbrewr
> sugar-visualmatch   chimosky, orphan   Fedora
> 31
> sugar-yupanacallkalpa, chimosky, orphanFedora
> 31
>
>
> The following packages require above mentioned packages:
>
> Depending on: js-html5shiv (1)
> copr-frontend (maintained by: clime, copr-sig, dturecek, frostyx,
> msuchy, praiskup)
> copr-frontend-1.171-1.fc34.noarch requires js-html5shiv
>
> Depending on: nodejs-info-symbol (2)
> nodejs-log-utils (maintained by: orphan)
> nodejs-log-utils-0.2.1-6.fc32.noarch requires
> npm(info-symbol)
>
> nodejs-time-diff (maintained by: orphan)
> nodejs-time-diff-0.3.1-7.fc32.src requires npm(info-symbol)
>
> Depending on: nodejs-interpret (1)
> nodejs-shelljs (maintained by: fab, nodejs-sig, patches)
> nodejs-shelljs-0.8.4-2.fc33.noarch requires npm(interpret)
>
>
> Affected (co)maintainers (directly and indirectly):
> callkalpa: sugar-labyrinth, sugar-yupana, sugar-ruler, sugar-flipsticks,
> sugar-view-slides, sugar-infoslicer, sugar-starchart, sugar-getiabooks
> chimosky: sugar-labyrinth, sugar-yupana, sugar-ruler, sugar-flipsticks,
> sugar-view-slides, sugar-visualmatch, sugar-infoslicer, sugar-starchart,
> sugar-getiabooks
> clime: js-html5shiv
> copr-sig: js-html5shiv
> dmoluguw: jboss-servlet-2.5-api
> dturecek: js-html5shiv
> elsupergomez: boo
> fab: nodejs-interpret
> frostyx: js-html5shiv
> gsgatlin: VirtualGL
> maxamillion: rubygem-net-ssh-multi
> msuchy: js-html5shiv
> nodejs-sig: nodejs-win-spawn, nodejs-interpret
> patches: nodejs-interpret
> pbrobinson: sugar-labyrinth, sugar-flipsticks, sugar-view-slides,
> sugar-infoslicer, sugar-getiabooks
> praiskup: js-html5shiv
> tdawson: rubygem-net-ssh-multi
> tpokorra: boo
> tuxbrewr: sugar-view-slides, sugar-infoslicer, sugar-getiabooks,
> sugar-flipsticks
>
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Re: VirtualGL - Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Miro Hrončok]

On 19. 01. 21 15:52, Raphael Groner wrote:

Hi Miro,

please try to keep VirtualGL alive. There's actual activity for this
package and new builds got pushed into updates-testing.

We succesfully managed to fix FTBFS:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1863126


That is enough to keep it alive.

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VirtualGL - Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Raphael Groner]

Hi Miro,

please try to keep VirtualGL alive. There's actual activity for this
package and new builds got pushed into updates-testing.

We succesfully managed to fix FTBFS:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1863126

No idea about those sugar packages though.

Thanks & Regards,

Raphael


Am 19.01.21 um 14:23 schrieb Miro Hrončok:

Dear maintainers.

Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following
packages
will be retired from Fedora 34 approximately one week before branching
(February 2021).

Policy:
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Fails_to_build_from_source_Fails_to_install/

Note that some listed packages are orphaned and hence may be retired
even sooner.

The packages in rawhide were not successfully built at least since
Fedora 32.

This report is based on dist tags.

Packages collected via:
https://github.com/hroncok/fedora-report-ftbfs-retirements/blob/master/ftbfs-retirements.ipynb


If you see a package that was built, please let me know.
If you see a package that should be exempted from the process, please
let me know and we can work together to get a FESCo approval for that.

If you see a package that can be rebuilt, please do so.

  Package  (co)maintainers Latest build


VirtualGL   gsgatlin, raphgro Fedora 31
sugar-flipsticks    callkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinson, tuxbrewr Fedora 31
sugar-getiabooks    callkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinson, tuxbrewr Fedora 31
sugar-infoslicer    callkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinson, tuxbrewr Fedora 31
sugar-labyrinth callkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinson Fedora 31
sugar-ruler callkalpa, chimosky Fedora 31
sugar-starchart callkalpa, chimosky, orphan Fedora 31
sugar-view-slides   callkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinson, tuxbrewr Fedora 31

No packages require above mentioned packages.

Affected (co)maintainers
callkalpa: sugar-flipsticks, sugar-view-slides, sugar-ruler,
sugar-getiabooks, sugar-labyrinth, sugar-starchart, sugar-infoslicer
chimosky: sugar-flipsticks, sugar-view-slides, sugar-ruler,
sugar-getiabooks, sugar-labyrinth, sugar-starchart, sugar-infoslicer
gsgatlin: VirtualGL
pbrobinson: sugar-flipsticks, sugar-view-slides, sugar-getiabooks,
sugar-labyrinth, sugar-infoslicer
raphgro: VirtualGL
tuxbrewr: sugar-flipsticks, sugar-infoslicer, sugar-getiabooks,
sugar-view-slides

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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Gary Gatling]

Hi. VirtualGL is built in rawhide and in testing for f33/f32. Thanks.

On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 8:24 AM Miro Hrončok  wrote:

> Dear maintainers.
>
> Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following
> packages
> will be retired from Fedora 34 approximately one week before branching
> (February
> 2021).
>
> Policy:
>
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Fails_to_build_from_source_Fails_to_install/
>
> Note that some listed packages are orphaned and hence may be retired even
> sooner.
>
> The packages in rawhide were not successfully built at least since Fedora
> 32.
>
> This report is based on dist tags.
>
> Packages collected via:
>
> https://github.com/hroncok/fedora-report-ftbfs-retirements/blob/master/ftbfs-retirements.ipynb
>
> If you see a package that was built, please let me know.
> If you see a package that should be exempted from the process, please let
> me
> know and we can work together to get a FESCo approval for that.
>
> If you see a package that can be rebuilt, please do so.
>
>Package  (co)maintainers  Latest
> build
>
> 
> VirtualGL   gsgatlin, raphgro   Fedora 31
> sugar-flipstickscallkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinson, tuxbrewr   Fedora 31
> sugar-getiabookscallkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinson, tuxbrewr   Fedora 31
> sugar-infoslicercallkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinson, tuxbrewr   Fedora 31
> sugar-labyrinth callkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinson Fedora 31
> sugar-ruler callkalpa, chimosky Fedora 31
> sugar-starchart callkalpa, chimosky, orphan Fedora 31
> sugar-view-slides   callkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinson, tuxbrewr   Fedora 31
>
> No packages require above mentioned packages.
>
> Affected (co)maintainers
> callkalpa: sugar-flipsticks, sugar-view-slides, sugar-ruler,
> sugar-getiabooks,
> sugar-labyrinth, sugar-starchart, sugar-infoslicer
> chimosky: sugar-flipsticks, sugar-view-slides, sugar-ruler,
> sugar-getiabooks,
> sugar-labyrinth, sugar-starchart, sugar-infoslicer
> gsgatlin: VirtualGL
> pbrobinson: sugar-flipsticks, sugar-view-slides, sugar-getiabooks,
> sugar-labyrinth, sugar-infoslicer
> raphgro: VirtualGL
> tuxbrewr: sugar-flipsticks, sugar-infoslicer, sugar-getiabooks,
> sugar-view-slides
>
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List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Miro Hrončok]

Dear maintainers.

Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following packages
will be retired from Fedora 34 approximately one week before branching (February 
2021).


Policy: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Fails_to_build_from_source_Fails_to_install/


Note that some listed packages are orphaned and hence may be retired even 
sooner.

The packages in rawhide were not successfully built at least since Fedora 32.

This report is based on dist tags.

Packages collected via:
https://github.com/hroncok/fedora-report-ftbfs-retirements/blob/master/ftbfs-retirements.ipynb

If you see a package that was built, please let me know.
If you see a package that should be exempted from the process, please let me 
know and we can work together to get a FESCo approval for that.


If you see a package that can be rebuilt, please do so.

  Package  (co)maintainers  Latest build

VirtualGL   gsgatlin, raphgro   Fedora 31
sugar-flipstickscallkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinson, tuxbrewr   Fedora 31
sugar-getiabookscallkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinson, tuxbrewr   Fedora 31
sugar-infoslicercallkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinson, tuxbrewr   Fedora 31
sugar-labyrinth callkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinson Fedora 31
sugar-ruler callkalpa, chimosky Fedora 31
sugar-starchart callkalpa, chimosky, orphan Fedora 31
sugar-view-slides   callkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinson, tuxbrewr   Fedora 31

No packages require above mentioned packages.

Affected (co)maintainers
callkalpa: sugar-flipsticks, sugar-view-slides, sugar-ruler, sugar-getiabooks, 
sugar-labyrinth, sugar-starchart, sugar-infoslicer
chimosky: sugar-flipsticks, sugar-view-slides, sugar-ruler, sugar-getiabooks, 
sugar-labyrinth, sugar-starchart, sugar-infoslicer

gsgatlin: VirtualGL
pbrobinson: sugar-flipsticks, sugar-view-slides, sugar-getiabooks, 
sugar-labyrinth, sugar-infoslicer

raphgro: VirtualGL
tuxbrewr: sugar-flipsticks, sugar-infoslicer, sugar-getiabooks, 
sugar-view-slides
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List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Miro Hrončok]

Dear maintainers.

Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following packages
will be retired from Fedora 34 approximately one week before branching (February 
2021).


Policy: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Fails_to_build_from_source_Fails_to_install/


Note that some listed packages are orphaned and hence may be retired even 
sooner.

The packages in rawhide were not successfully built at least since Fedora 32.

This report is based on dist tags.

Packages collected via:
https://github.com/hroncok/fedora-report-ftbfs-retirements/blob/master/ftbfs-retirements.ipynb

If you see a package that was built, please let me know.
If you see a package that should be exempted from the process, please let me 
know and we can work together to get a FESCo approval for that.


If you see a package that can be rebuilt, please do so.

  Package  (co)maintainers  Latest build

VirtualGL   gsgatlin, raphgro   Fedora 31
sugar-flipstickscallkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinson, tuxbrewr   Fedora 31
sugar-getiabookscallkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinson, tuxbrewr   Fedora 31
sugar-infoslicercallkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinson, tuxbrewr   Fedora 31
sugar-labyrinth callkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinson Fedora 31
sugar-ruler callkalpa, chimosky Fedora 31
sugar-starchart callkalpa, chimosky, orphan Fedora 31
sugar-view-slides   callkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinson, tuxbrewr   Fedora 31

No packages require above mentioned packages.

Affected (co)maintainers
callkalpa: sugar-flipsticks, sugar-view-slides, sugar-ruler, sugar-getiabooks, 
sugar-labyrinth, sugar-starchart, sugar-infoslicer
chimosky: sugar-flipsticks, sugar-view-slides, sugar-ruler, sugar-getiabooks, 
sugar-labyrinth, sugar-starchart, sugar-infoslicer

gsgatlin: VirtualGL
pbrobinson: sugar-flipsticks, sugar-view-slides, sugar-getiabooks, 
sugar-labyrinth, sugar-infoslicer

raphgro: VirtualGL
tuxbrewr: sugar-flipsticks, sugar-infoslicer, sugar-getiabooks, 
sugar-view-slides
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List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Miro Hrončok]

Dear maintainers.

Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following packages
will be retired from Fedora 34 approximately one week before branching (February 
2021).


Policy: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Fails_to_build_from_source_Fails_to_install/


Note that some listed packages are orphaned and hence may be retired even 
sooner.

The packages in rawhide were not successfully built at least since Fedora 32.

This report is based on dist tags.

Packages collected via:
https://github.com/hroncok/fedora-report-ftbfs-retirements/blob/master/ftbfs-retirements.ipynb

If you see a package that was built, please let me know.
If you see a package that should be exempted from the process, please let me 
know and we can work together to get a FESCo approval for that.


If you see a package that can be rebuilt, please do so.

  Package  (co)maintainers  Latest build

VirtualGL   gsgatlinFedora 31
boo elsupergomez, orphan, tpokorra  Fedora 31
sugar-flipstickscallkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinson, tuxbrewr   Fedora 31
sugar-getiabookscallkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinson, tuxbrewr   Fedora 31
sugar-infoslicercallkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinson, tuxbrewr   Fedora 31
sugar-labyrinth callkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinson Fedora 31
sugar-ruler callkalpa, chimosky Fedora 31
sugar-starchart callkalpa, chimosky, orphan Fedora 31
sugar-view-slides   callkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinson, tuxbrewr   Fedora 31

No packages require above mentioned packages.

Affected (co)maintainers
callkalpa: sugar-labyrinth, sugar-starchart, sugar-ruler, sugar-getiabooks, 
sugar-infoslicer, sugar-view-slides, sugar-flipsticks
chimosky: sugar-labyrinth, sugar-starchart, sugar-ruler, sugar-getiabooks, 
sugar-infoslicer, sugar-view-slides, sugar-flipsticks

elsupergomez: boo
gsgatlin: VirtualGL
pbrobinson: sugar-labyrinth, sugar-getiabooks, sugar-infoslicer, 
sugar-view-slides, sugar-flipsticks

tpokorra: boo
tuxbrewr: sugar-getiabooks, sugar-infoslicer, sugar-view-slides, 
sugar-flipsticks
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List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Miro Hrončok]

Dear maintainers.

Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following packages
will be retired from Fedora 34 approximately one week before branching (February 
2021).


Policy: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Fails_to_build_from_source_Fails_to_install/


Note that some listed packages are orphaned and hence may be retired even 
sooner.

The packages in rawhide were not successfully built at least since Fedora 32.

This report is based on dist tags.

Packages collected via:
https://github.com/hroncok/fedora-report-ftbfs-retirements/blob/master/ftbfs-retirements.ipynb

If you see a package that was built, please let me know.
If you see a package that should be exempted from the process, please let me 
know and we can work together to get a FESCo approval for that.


If you see a package that can be rebuilt, please do so.

  Package  (co)maintainers  Latest build

VirtualGL   gsgatlinFedora 31
boo elsupergomez, orphan, tpokorra  Fedora 31
sugar-flipstickscallkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinson, tuxbrewr   Fedora 31
sugar-getiabookscallkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinson, tuxbrewr   Fedora 31
sugar-infoslicercallkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinson, tuxbrewr   Fedora 31
sugar-labyrinth callkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinson Fedora 31
sugar-ruler callkalpa, chimosky Fedora 31
sugar-starchart callkalpa, chimosky, orphan Fedora 31
sugar-view-slides   callkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinson, tuxbrewr   Fedora 31

No packages require above mentioned packages.

Affected (co)maintainers
callkalpa: sugar-labyrinth, sugar-starchart, sugar-ruler, sugar-getiabooks, 
sugar-infoslicer, sugar-view-slides, sugar-flipsticks
chimosky: sugar-labyrinth, sugar-starchart, sugar-ruler, sugar-getiabooks, 
sugar-infoslicer, sugar-view-slides, sugar-flipsticks

elsupergomez: boo
gsgatlin: VirtualGL
pbrobinson: sugar-labyrinth, sugar-getiabooks, sugar-infoslicer, 
sugar-view-slides, sugar-flipsticks

tpokorra: boo
tuxbrewr: sugar-getiabooks, sugar-infoslicer, sugar-view-slides, 
sugar-flipsticks
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List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Miro Hrončok]

Dear maintainers.

Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following packages
will be retired from Fedora 34 approximately one week before branching (February 
2021).


Policy: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Fails_to_build_from_source_Fails_to_install/


Note that some listed packages are orphaned and hence may be retired even 
sooner.

The packages in rawhide were not successfully built at least since Fedora 32.

This report is based on dist tags.

Packages collected via:
https://github.com/hroncok/fedora-report-ftbfs-retirements/blob/master/ftbfs-retirements.ipynb

If you see a package that was built, please let me know.
If you see a package that should be exempted from the process, please let me 
know and we can work together to get a FESCo approval for that.


If you see a package that can be rebuilt, please do so.

  Package  (co)maintainers  Latest build

VirtualGL   gsgatlinFedora 31
boo elsupergomez, orphan, tpokorra  Fedora 31
sugar-flipstickscallkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinson, tuxbrewr   Fedora 31
sugar-getiabookscallkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinson, tuxbrewr   Fedora 31
sugar-infoslicercallkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinson, tuxbrewr   Fedora 31
sugar-labyrinth callkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinson Fedora 31
sugar-ruler callkalpa, chimosky Fedora 31
sugar-starchart callkalpa, chimosky, orphan Fedora 31
sugar-view-slides   callkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinson, tuxbrewr   Fedora 31

No packages require above mentioned packages.

Affected (co)maintainers
callkalpa: sugar-labyrinth, sugar-starchart, sugar-ruler, sugar-getiabooks, 
sugar-infoslicer, sugar-view-slides, sugar-flipsticks
chimosky: sugar-labyrinth, sugar-starchart, sugar-ruler, sugar-getiabooks, 
sugar-infoslicer, sugar-view-slides, sugar-flipsticks

elsupergomez: boo
gsgatlin: VirtualGL
pbrobinson: sugar-labyrinth, sugar-getiabooks, sugar-infoslicer, 
sugar-view-slides, sugar-flipsticks

tpokorra: boo
tuxbrewr: sugar-getiabooks, sugar-infoslicer, sugar-view-slides, 
sugar-flipsticks
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List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Miro Hrončok]

Dear maintainers.

Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following packages
will be retired from Fedora 34 approximately one week before branching (February 
2021).


Policy: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Fails_to_build_from_source_Fails_to_install/


Note that some listed packages are orphaned and hence may be retired even 
sooner.

The packages in rawhide were not successfully built at least since Fedora 32.

This report is based on dist tags.

Packages collected via:
https://github.com/hroncok/fedora-report-ftbfs-retirements/blob/master/ftbfs-retirements.ipynb

If you see a package that was built, please let me know.
If you see a package that should be exempted from the process, please let me 
know and we can work together to get a FESCo approval for that.


If you see a package that can be rebuilt, please do so.

  Package  (co)maintainers  Latest build
===
VirtualGL   gsgatlin   Fedora 31
boo elsupergomez, orphan, tpokorra Fedora 31
gmpcorphan Fedora 31
jboss-servlet-2.5-api   dmoluguw, orphan   Fedora 31
js-html5shivorphan Fedora 31
js-respond  orphan Fedora 31
nodejs-info-symbol  orphan Fedora 31
nodejs-interpretnodejs-sig, orphan Fedora 31
nodejs-net-browserify-alt   orphan Fedora 31
nodejs-win-spawnnodejs-sig, orphan Fedora 31
rubygem-net-ssh-multi   maxamillion, orphan, tdawson   Fedora 31
sugar-flipstickscallkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinson,   Fedora 31
 tuxbrewr
sugar-getiabookscallkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinson,   Fedora 31
 tuxbrewr
sugar-infoslicercallkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinson,   Fedora 31
 tuxbrewr
sugar-labyrinth callkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinsonFedora 31
sugar-ruler callkalpa, chimoskyFedora 31
sugar-starchart callkalpa, chimosky, orphanFedora 31
sugar-view-slides   callkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinson,   Fedora 31
 tuxbrewr
sugar-visualmatch   chimosky, orphan   Fedora 31
sugar-yupanacallkalpa, chimosky, orphanFedora 31


The following packages require above mentioned packages:

Depending on: js-html5shiv (1)
copr-frontend (maintained by: clime, copr-sig, dturecek, frostyx, 
msuchy, praiskup)
copr-frontend-1.171-1.fc34.noarch requires js-html5shiv

Depending on: nodejs-info-symbol (2)
nodejs-log-utils (maintained by: orphan)
nodejs-log-utils-0.2.1-6.fc32.noarch requires npm(info-symbol)

nodejs-time-diff (maintained by: orphan)
nodejs-time-diff-0.3.1-7.fc32.src requires npm(info-symbol)

Depending on: nodejs-interpret (1)
nodejs-shelljs (maintained by: fab, nodejs-sig, patches)
nodejs-shelljs-0.8.4-2.fc33.noarch requires npm(interpret)


Affected (co)maintainers (directly and indirectly):
callkalpa: sugar-labyrinth, sugar-yupana, sugar-ruler, sugar-flipsticks, 
sugar-view-slides, sugar-infoslicer, sugar-starchart, sugar-getiabooks
chimosky: sugar-labyrinth, sugar-yupana, sugar-ruler, sugar-flipsticks, 
sugar-view-slides, sugar-visualmatch, sugar-infoslicer, sugar-starchart, 
sugar-getiabooks

clime: js-html5shiv
copr-sig: js-html5shiv
dmoluguw: jboss-servlet-2.5-api
dturecek: js-html5shiv
elsupergomez: boo
fab: nodejs-interpret
frostyx: js-html5shiv
gsgatlin: VirtualGL
maxamillion: rubygem-net-ssh-multi
msuchy: js-html5shiv
nodejs-sig: nodejs-win-spawn, nodejs-interpret
patches: nodejs-interpret
pbrobinson: sugar-labyrinth, sugar-flipsticks, sugar-view-slides, 
sugar-infoslicer, sugar-getiabooks

praiskup: js-html5shiv
tdawson: rubygem-net-ssh-multi
tpokorra: boo
tuxbrewr: sugar-view-slides, sugar-infoslicer, sugar-getiabooks, 
sugar-flipsticks
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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Kevin Fenzi]

On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 09:56:55PM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> Dear maintainers.
> 
> Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following packages
> will be retired from Fedora 34 approximately one week before branching
> (February 2021).
> 
> Policy: 
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Fails_to_build_from_source_Fails_to_install/
> 
> Note that some listed packages are orphaned and hence may be retired even 
> sooner.
> 
> The packages in rawhide were not successfully built at least since Fedora 32.
> 
> This report is based on dist tags.
> 
> Packages collected via:
> https://github.com/hroncok/fedora-report-ftbfs-retirements/blob/master/ftbfs-retirements.ipynb
> 
> If you see a package that was built, please let me know.
> If you see a package that should be exempted from the process, please let me
> know and we can work together to get a FESCo approval for that.
> 
> If you see a package that can be rebuilt, please do so.

...snip...

> gmpcorphan Fedora 31

...snip...

I use gmpc and was thinking of saving it, but it really seems pretty
dead upstream (it's still gtk2 even). 

On looking though, my needs are met by cantata. I just thought I would
mention to any gmpc users out there to take a look at cantata and see if
it works as a replacement for them. :) 

kevin


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List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Miro Hrončok]

Dear maintainers.

Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following packages
will be retired from Fedora 34 approximately one week before branching (February 
2021).


Policy: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Fails_to_build_from_source_Fails_to_install/


Note that some listed packages are orphaned and hence may be retired even 
sooner.

The packages in rawhide were not successfully built at least since Fedora 32.

This report is based on dist tags.

Packages collected via:
https://github.com/hroncok/fedora-report-ftbfs-retirements/blob/master/ftbfs-retirements.ipynb

If you see a package that was built, please let me know.
If you see a package that should be exempted from the process, please let me 
know and we can work together to get a FESCo approval for that.


If you see a package that can be rebuilt, please do so.

  Package  (co)maintainers  Latest build
===
VirtualGL   gsgatlin   Fedora 31
boo elsupergomez, orphan, tpokorra Fedora 31
gmpcorphan Fedora 31
jboss-servlet-2.5-api   dmoluguw, orphan   Fedora 31
js-html5shivorphan Fedora 31
js-respond  orphan Fedora 31
nodejs-info-symbol  orphan Fedora 31
nodejs-interpretnodejs-sig, orphan Fedora 31
nodejs-net-browserify-alt   orphan Fedora 31
nodejs-win-spawnnodejs-sig, orphan Fedora 31
rubygem-net-ssh-multi   maxamillion, orphan, tdawson   Fedora 31
sugar-flipstickscallkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinson,   Fedora 31
 tuxbrewr
sugar-getiabookscallkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinson,   Fedora 31
 tuxbrewr
sugar-infoslicercallkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinson,   Fedora 31
 tuxbrewr
sugar-labyrinth callkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinsonFedora 31
sugar-ruler callkalpa, chimoskyFedora 31
sugar-starchart callkalpa, chimosky, orphanFedora 31
sugar-view-slides   callkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinson,   Fedora 31
 tuxbrewr
sugar-visualmatch   chimosky, orphan   Fedora 31
sugar-yupanacallkalpa, chimosky, orphanFedora 31


The following packages require above mentioned packages:

Depending on: js-html5shiv (1)
copr-frontend (maintained by: clime, copr-sig, dturecek, frostyx, 
msuchy, praiskup)
copr-frontend-1.171-1.fc34.noarch requires js-html5shiv

Depending on: nodejs-info-symbol (2)
nodejs-log-utils (maintained by: orphan)
nodejs-log-utils-0.2.1-6.fc32.noarch requires npm(info-symbol)

nodejs-time-diff (maintained by: orphan)
nodejs-time-diff-0.3.1-7.fc32.src requires npm(info-symbol)

Depending on: nodejs-interpret (1)
nodejs-shelljs (maintained by: fab, nodejs-sig, patches)
nodejs-shelljs-0.8.4-2.fc33.noarch requires npm(interpret)


Affected (co)maintainers (directly and indirectly):
callkalpa: sugar-labyrinth, sugar-yupana, sugar-ruler, sugar-flipsticks, 
sugar-view-slides, sugar-infoslicer, sugar-starchart, sugar-getiabooks
chimosky: sugar-labyrinth, sugar-yupana, sugar-ruler, sugar-flipsticks, 
sugar-view-slides, sugar-visualmatch, sugar-infoslicer, sugar-starchart, 
sugar-getiabooks

clime: js-html5shiv
copr-sig: js-html5shiv
dmoluguw: jboss-servlet-2.5-api
dturecek: js-html5shiv
elsupergomez: boo
fab: nodejs-interpret
frostyx: js-html5shiv
gsgatlin: VirtualGL
maxamillion: rubygem-net-ssh-multi
msuchy: js-html5shiv
nodejs-sig: nodejs-win-spawn, nodejs-interpret
patches: nodejs-interpret
pbrobinson: sugar-labyrinth, sugar-flipsticks, sugar-view-slides, 
sugar-infoslicer, sugar-getiabooks

praiskup: js-html5shiv
tdawson: rubygem-net-ssh-multi
tpokorra: boo
tuxbrewr: sugar-view-slides, sugar-infoslicer, sugar-getiabooks, 
sugar-flipsticks
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Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Andy Mender]

On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 at 15:10, Miro Hrončok  wrote:

> Dear maintainers.
>
> Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following
> packages
> will be retired from Fedora 34 approximately one week before branching
> (February
> 2021).
>
> Policy:
>
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Fails_to_build_from_source_Fails_to_install/
>
> Note that some listed packages are orphaned and hence may be retired even
> sooner.
>
> The packages in rawhide were not successfully built at least since Fedora
> 32.
>
> This report is based on dist tags.
>
> Packages collected via:
>
> https://github.com/hroncok/fedora-report-ftbfs-retirements/blob/master/ftbfs-retirements.ipynb
>
> If you see a package that was built, please let me know.
> If you see a package that should be exempted from the process, please let
> me
> know and we can work together to get a FESCo approval for that.
>
> If you see a package that can be rebuilt, please do so.
>
>   Package  (co)maintainers  Latest
> build
>
> ===
> VirtualGL   gsgatlin   Fedora
> 31
>
> If there are no takers, I would be interested in VirtualGL.

Cheers,
Andy
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List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Miro Hrončok]

Dear maintainers.

Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following packages
will be retired from Fedora 34 approximately one week before branching (February 
2021).


Policy: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Fails_to_build_from_source_Fails_to_install/


Note that some listed packages are orphaned and hence may be retired even 
sooner.

The packages in rawhide were not successfully built at least since Fedora 32.

This report is based on dist tags.

Packages collected via:
https://github.com/hroncok/fedora-report-ftbfs-retirements/blob/master/ftbfs-retirements.ipynb

If you see a package that was built, please let me know.
If you see a package that should be exempted from the process, please let me 
know and we can work together to get a FESCo approval for that.


If you see a package that can be rebuilt, please do so.

 Package  (co)maintainers  Latest build
===
VirtualGL   gsgatlin   Fedora 31
boo elsupergomez, tpokorra Fedora 31
gmpcorphan Fedora 31
jboss-servlet-2.5-api   dmoluguw, orphan   Fedora 31
js-html5shivorphan Fedora 31
js-respond  orphan Fedora 31
nodejs-info-symbol  orphan Fedora 31
nodejs-interpretnodejs-sig, orphan Fedora 31
nodejs-net-browserify-alt   orphan Fedora 31
nodejs-win-spawnnodejs-sig, orphan Fedora 31
rubygem-net-ssh-multi   maxamillion, orphan, tdawson   Fedora 31
sugar-flipstickscallkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinson,   Fedora 31
tuxbrewr
sugar-getiabookscallkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinson,   Fedora 31
tuxbrewr
sugar-infoslicercallkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinson,   Fedora 31
tuxbrewr
sugar-labyrinth callkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinsonFedora 31
sugar-ruler callkalpa, chimoskyFedora 31
sugar-starchart callkalpa, chimosky, orphanFedora 31
sugar-view-slides   callkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinson,   Fedora 31
tuxbrewr
sugar-visualmatch   chimosky, orphan   Fedora 31
sugar-yupanacallkalpa, chimosky, orphanFedora 31


The following packages require above mentioned packages:

Depending on: js-html5shiv (1)
copr-frontend (maintained by: clime, copr-sig, dturecek, frostyx, 
msuchy, praiskup)
copr-frontend-1.171-1.fc34.noarch requires js-html5shiv

Depending on: nodejs-info-symbol (2)
nodejs-log-utils (maintained by: orphan)
nodejs-log-utils-0.2.1-6.fc32.noarch requires npm(info-symbol)

nodejs-time-diff (maintained by: orphan)
nodejs-time-diff-0.3.1-7.fc32.src requires npm(info-symbol)

Depending on: nodejs-interpret (1)
nodejs-shelljs (maintained by: fab, nodejs-sig, patches)
nodejs-shelljs-0.8.4-2.fc33.noarch requires npm(interpret)


Affected (co)maintainers (directly and indirectly):
callkalpa: sugar-labyrinth, sugar-yupana, sugar-ruler, sugar-flipsticks, 
sugar-view-slides, sugar-infoslicer, sugar-starchart, sugar-getiabooks
chimosky: sugar-labyrinth, sugar-yupana, sugar-ruler, sugar-flipsticks, 
sugar-view-slides, sugar-visualmatch, sugar-infoslicer, sugar-starchart, 
sugar-getiabooks

clime: js-html5shiv
copr-sig: js-html5shiv
dmoluguw: jboss-servlet-2.5-api
dturecek: js-html5shiv
elsupergomez: boo
fab: nodejs-interpret
frostyx: js-html5shiv
gsgatlin: VirtualGL
maxamillion: rubygem-net-ssh-multi
msuchy: js-html5shiv
nodejs-sig: nodejs-win-spawn, nodejs-interpret
patches: nodejs-interpret
pbrobinson: sugar-labyrinth, sugar-flipsticks, sugar-view-slides, 
sugar-infoslicer, sugar-getiabooks

praiskup: js-html5shiv
tdawson: rubygem-net-ssh-multi
tpokorra: boo
tuxbrewr: sugar-view-slides, sugar-infoslicer, sugar-getiabooks, 
sugar-flipsticks
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List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

[Miro Hrončok]

Dear maintainers.

Based on the latest fail to build from source policy, the following packages
will be retired from Fedora 32 approximately one week before branching 
(2020-02-03).

Policy: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Fails_to_build_from_source_Fails_to_install/


The packages in rawhide were not successfully built at least since Fedora 30.

This report is based on dist tags.

Packages collected via:
https://github.com/hroncok/fedora-report-ftbfs-retirements/blob/master/ftbfs-retirements.ipynb

If you see a package that was built, please let me know.
If you see a package that should be exempted from the process, please let me 
know and we can work together to get a FESCo approval for that.


If you see a package that can be rebuilt, please do so.

 Package  (co)maintainers   Latest build

elasticsearch hubbitus, jvanek, lbazan,Fedora 24
   zbyszek
expresso  jamielinux, nodejs-sig,  Fedora 28
   patches
libocrdma ocrdma   Fedora 27
nuvola-app-google-calendarmartinkg Fedora 29
nuvola-app-groove martinkg Fedora 28
nuvola-app-logitech-media-martinkg Fedora 29
server
nuvola-app-plex   martinkg Fedora 29
nuvola-app-soundcloud martinkg Fedora 29
nuvola-app-yandex-music   martinkg Fedora 29
shim-unsigned-aarch64 pjones   Fedora 28
shim-unsigned-x64 pjones   Fedora 28

The following packages require above mentioned packages:
Depending on: expresso (1)
nodejs-chrono (maintained by: jamielinux, nodejs-sig, tomh)
nodejs-chrono-1.0.5-10.fc31.src requires npm(expresso) = 0.9.2

Affected (co)maintainers
hubbitus: elasticsearch
jamielinux: expresso
jvanek: elasticsearch
lbazan: elasticsearch
martinkg: nuvola-app-soundcloud, nuvola-app-logitech-media-server, 
nuvola-app-yandex-music, nuvola-app-groove, nuvola-app-google-calendar, 
nuvola-app-plex

nodejs-sig: expresso
ocrdma: libocrdma
patches: expresso
pjones: shim-unsigned-aarch64, shim-unsigned-x64
tomh: expresso
zbyszek: elasticsearch


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