Re: Mission Impossible #1: qt without gtk

2013-05-14 Thread Eugene Pivnev
14.05.2013 03:38, Todd Zullinger пишет: Eugene Pivnev wrote: libgnome-keyring is minimal problem (ok - is _not_ problem at all; although I'm surprised that _console_ git depends on DE-specific library). I just recently made use of libgnome-keyring via python-keyring for a console

Re: Mission Impossible #1: qt without gtk

2013-05-13 Thread Eugene Pivnev
13.05.2013 02:31, Todd Zullinger: Eugene Pivnev wrote: 11.05.2013 23:22, Adam Williamson: qgit - git - libgnome_keyring ...like this one, for instance. libgnome-keyring's dependencies are pretty modest: As I found in git.spec - git's gnome-keyring suff is optional. Is it possible to move

Re: Mission Impossible #1: qt without gtk

2013-05-13 Thread Rex Dieter
Todd Zullinger wrote: Eugene Pivnev wrote: 11.05.2013 23:22, Adam Williamson: qgit - git - libgnome_keyring ...like this one, for instance. libgnome-keyring's dependencies are pretty modest: As I found in git.spec - git's gnome-keyring suff is optional. Is it possible to move them into

Re: Mission Impossible #1: qt without gtk

2013-05-13 Thread Florian Weimer
On 05/13/2013 02:07 PM, Rex Dieter wrote: Todd Zullinger wrote: Eugene Pivnev wrote: 11.05.2013 23:22, Adam Williamson: qgit - git - libgnome_keyring ...like this one, for instance. libgnome-keyring's dependencies are pretty modest: As I found in git.spec - git's gnome-keyring suff is

Re: Mission Impossible #1: qt without gtk

2013-05-13 Thread Todd Zullinger
Eugene Pivnev wrote: 13.05.2013 02:31, Todd Zullinger: Eugene Pivnev wrote: [...] As I found in git.spec - git's gnome-keyring suff is optional. Is it possible to move them into separate package (for gnome users)? This doesn't sound too unreasonable at first (and wasn't hard to do; I

Re: Mission Impossible #1: qt without gtk

2013-05-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2013-05-13 at 12:23 +0400, Eugene Pivnev wrote: 13.05.2013 02:31, Todd Zullinger: Eugene Pivnev wrote: 11.05.2013 23:22, Adam Williamson: qgit - git - libgnome_keyring ...like this one, for instance. libgnome-keyring's dependencies are pretty modest: As I found in git.spec -

Re: Mission Impossible #1: qt without gtk

2013-05-13 Thread Eugene Pivnev
13.05.2013 19:30, Adam Williamson: The problem is that Fedora is too Gnome distro. That is a rant, not a description of a problem. The simple fact that the package libgnome-keyring has the word gnome in it is not sufficient to qualify as a problem. As Todd wrote, libgnome-keyring itself has

Re: Mission Impossible #1: qt without gtk

2013-05-13 Thread Todd Zullinger
Eugene Pivnev wrote: libgnome-keyring is minimal problem (ok - is _not_ problem at all; although I'm surprised that _console_ git depends on DE-specific library). I just recently made use of libgnome-keyring via python-keyring for a console application I wrote. I thought it was quite handy

Re: Mission Impossible #1: qt without gtk

2013-05-12 Thread Mamoru TASAKA
Rahul Sundaram wrote, at 05/12/2013 12:59 PM +9:00: On 05/11/2013 11:19 PM, Mamoru TASAKA wrote: xscreensaver-demo, which is for configuring xscreensaver (daemon), requires gtk2. IIRC KDE can use xscreensaver modules and if so, the user has no real need of the demo command. It may be better

Re: Mission Impossible #1: qt without gtk

2013-05-12 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 5:21 AM, Mamoru TASAKA wrote: In this discussion xscreensaver dependency is not for xscreensaver modules in KDE, but for razorqt{-panel}. It seems that razorqt _really_ wants to launch xscreensaver daemon, so splitting out xscreensaver-demo from

Re: Mission Impossible #1: qt without gtk

2013-05-12 Thread Eugene Pivnev
Sorry, but as I found in xsceensaver-base (not xscreensaver itself!) - it contains as xsceensaver as xscreensaver demo (/usr/bin/xscreensaver-demo, glade based). And no one xscreensaver config tool. 12.05.2013 13:21, Mamoru TASAKA: Rahul Sundaram wrote, at 05/12/2013 12:59 PM +9:00: On

Re: Mission Impossible #1: qt without gtk

2013-05-12 Thread Eugene Pivnev
12.05.2013 13:21, Mamoru TASAKA: It seems that razorqt _really_ wants to launch xscreensaver daemon, so splitting out xscreensaver-demo from xscreensaver-base does not help here. You mean - xscreensaver daemon depends on glade and/or gtk2 too? -- devel mailing list

Re: Mission Impossible #1: qt without gtk

2013-05-12 Thread Mamoru TASAKA
No top-post please. Eugene Pivnev wrote, at 05/12/2013 10:06 PM +9:00: Sorry, but as I found in xsceensaver-base (not xscreensaver itself!) - it contains as xsceensaver as xscreensaver demo (/usr/bin/xscreensaver-demo, glade based). And no one xscreensaver config tool. xscreensaver-demo is

Re: Mission Impossible #1: qt without gtk

2013-05-12 Thread Mamoru TASAKA
Eugene Pivnev wrote, at 05/12/2013 10:09 PM +9:00: 12.05.2013 13:21, Mamoru TASAKA: It seems that razorqt _really_ wants to launch xscreensaver daemon, so splitting out xscreensaver-demo from xscreensaver-base does not help here. You mean - xscreensaver daemon depends on glade and/or gtk2

Re: Mission Impossible #1: qt without gtk

2013-05-12 Thread Eugene Pivnev
12.05.2013 17:23, Mamoru TASAKA: Eugene Pivnev wrote, at 05/12/2013 10:09 PM +9:00: 12.05.2013 13:21, Mamoru TASAKA: It seems that razorqt _really_ wants to launch xscreensaver daemon, so splitting out xscreensaver-demo from xscreensaver-base does not help here. You mean - xscreensaver

Re: Mission Impossible #1: qt without gtk

2013-05-12 Thread Todd Zullinger
Eugene Pivnev wrote: 11.05.2013 23:22, Adam Williamson: qgit - git - libgnome_keyring ...like this one, for instance. libgnome-keyring's dependencies are pretty modest: As I found in git.spec - git's gnome-keyring suff is optional. Is it possible to move them into separate package (for gnome

Re: Mission Impossible #1: qt without gtk

2013-05-11 Thread Eugene Pivnev
01.05.2013 23:07, Matthias Clasen: On Wed, 2013-05-01 at 11:46 +0400, Eugene Pivnev wrote: Whether I have to create bugreports? Creating patches would be more interesting. Creating patches is greate idea - but is too hard for one man. I created dependency graph for some qt-based applications

Re: Mission Impossible #1: qt without gtk

2013-05-11 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2013-05-11 at 22:01 +0400, Eugene Pivnev wrote: 01.05.2013 23:07, Matthias Clasen: On Wed, 2013-05-01 at 11:46 +0400, Eugene Pivnev wrote: Whether I have to create bugreports? Creating patches would be more interesting. Creating patches is greate idea - but is too hard for one man.

Re: Mission Impossible #1: qt without gtk

2013-05-11 Thread Kalev Lember
On 11/05/13 20:01, Eugene Pivnev wrote: librsvg2 - gtk3; I have done a librsvg2 build which should fix this -- can you confirm if it fixes it for you, and leave karma at Bodhi, please? https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/librsvg2-2.37.0-3.fc19 -- Hope this helps, Kalev -- devel mailing

Re: Mission Impossible #1: qt without gtk

2013-05-11 Thread Mamoru TASAKA
Adam Williamson wrote, at 05/12/2013 04:22 AM +9:00: On Sat, 2013-05-11 at 22:01 +0400, Eugene Pivnev wrote: Problematic dependencies that I found: xscreensaver_base - libglade2 - gtk2; These ones look a bit more significant. xscreensaver-base's dep on gtk2 in particular looks odd. The

Re: Mission Impossible #1: qt without gtk

2013-05-11 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/11/2013 11:19 PM, Mamoru TASAKA wrote: xscreensaver-demo, which is for configuring xscreensaver (daemon), requires gtk2. IIRC KDE can use xscreensaver modules and if so, the user has no real need of the demo command. It may be better to move xscreensaver-demo into its own package

Re: Mission Impossible #1: qt without gtk

2013-05-11 Thread Eugene Pivnev
11.05.2013 22:01, Eugene Pivnev: Sorry for big picture - it is because of loopbacks. Smaller version. stage2.svg.gz Description: application/gzip -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Mission Impossible #1: qt without gtk

2013-05-11 Thread Eugene Pivnev
11.05.2013 23:59, Kalev Lember: On 11/05/13 20:01, Eugene Pivnev wrote: librsvg2 - gtk3; I have done a librsvg2 build which should fix this -- can you confirm if it fixes it for you, and leave karma at Bodhi, please? https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/librsvg2-2.37.0-3.fc19 Can't - I

Re: Mission Impossible #1: qt without gtk

2013-05-11 Thread Eugene Pivnev
11.05.2013 23:22, Adam Williamson: qgit - git - libgnome_keyring ...like this one, for instance. libgnome-keyring's dependencies are pretty modest: As I found in git.spec - git's gnome-keyring suff is optional. Is it possible to move them into separate package (for gnome users)? -- devel

Re: Mission Impossible #1: qt without gtk

2013-05-01 Thread Eugene Pivnev
Whether I have to create bugreports? BTW - gvfs requires as libsecret as libgnome-keyring. 30.04.2013 21:50, Matthias Clasen: On Tue, 2013-04-30 at 19:38 +0400, Eugene A. Pivnev wrote: 30.04.2013 19:26, David Howells: Eugene Pivnev ti.eug...@gmail.com wrote: 3. rpm -qa | grep gnome | xargs

Re: Mission Impossible #1: qt without gtk

2013-05-01 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Wed, 2013-05-01 at 11:46 +0400, Eugene Pivnev wrote: Whether I have to create bugreports? Creating patches would be more interesting. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Mission Impossible #1: qt without gtk

2013-04-30 Thread David Howells
Eugene Pivnev ti.eug...@gmail.com wrote: 3. rpm -qa | grep gnome | xargs sudo yum remove * git (???) gitk, I imagine. David -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Mission Impossible #1: qt without gtk

2013-04-30 Thread Eugene A. Pivnev
30.04.2013 19:26, David Howells: Eugene Pivnev ti.eug...@gmail.com wrote: 3. rpm -qa | grep gnome | xargs sudo yum remove * git (???) gitk, I imagine. David No. Exactly gnome: bash-4.2$ rpm -q --requires git | grep gnome libgnome-keyring.so.0 Same thing - in gvfs. -- devel mailing list

Re: Mission Impossible #1: qt without gtk

2013-04-30 Thread Eugene A. Pivnev
30.04.2013 19:26, David Howells: Eugene Pivnev ti.eug...@gmail.com wrote: 3. rpm -qa | grep gnome | xargs sudo yum remove * git (???) gitk, I imagine. David BTW - try to remove libgnome-keyring. I'm surprised: * PyQt4 * git * gvfs * kdelibs :-))) * phonon * qt-config -- devel mailing list

Re: Mission Impossible #1: qt without gtk

2013-04-30 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Tue, 2013-04-30 at 19:38 +0400, Eugene A. Pivnev wrote: 30.04.2013 19:26, David Howells: Eugene Pivnev ti.eug...@gmail.com wrote: 3. rpm -qa | grep gnome | xargs sudo yum remove * git (???) gitk, I imagine. David No. Exactly gnome: bash-4.2$ rpm -q --requires git | grep gnome

Re: Mission Impossible #1: qt without gtk

2013-04-30 Thread Stef Walter
On 30.04.2013 17:49, Eugene A. Pivnev wrote: 30.04.2013 19:26, David Howells: Eugene Pivnev ti.eug...@gmail.com wrote: 3. rpm -qa | grep gnome | xargs sudo yum remove * git (???) gitk, I imagine. David BTW - try to remove libgnome-keyring. I'm surprised: * PyQt4 * git * gvfs *

Re: Mission Impossible #1: qt without gtk

2013-04-29 Thread Eugene Pivnev
Whether it is possible to sane gsteamer and try to remove gtk? And gvfs - removing *gnome*. 29.04.2013 01:07, Farkas Levente: On 04/28/2013 10:58 PM, Rex Dieter wrote: Eugene Pivnev wrote: As I'm trying to create gtk-/gnome-/kde*-free environment (QtDesktop) - I tested - what about Fedora

Re: Mission Impossible #1: qt without gtk

2013-04-29 Thread Dan Williams
On Mon, 2013-04-29 at 20:59 +0400, Eugene Pivnev wrote: Whether it is possible to sane gsteamer and try to remove gtk? And gvfs - removing *gnome*. It appears that out of the entire gvfsd package, only: /usr/libexec/gvfsd-recent requires GTK libraries. Everything else is strictly non-GUI.

Mission Impossible #1: qt without gtk

2013-04-28 Thread Eugene Pivnev
As I'm trying to create gtk-/gnome-/kde*-free environment (QtDesktop) - I tested - what about Fedora without them? So: 1. yum remove gtk3: ... * gvfs * qt-mobility * qtwebkit * ffmpeg * ffmpeg-libs * mplayer * phonon * smplayer 2. yum remove gtk2: all above+ * ImageMagic 3. rpm -qa | grep gnome

Re: Mission Impossible #1: qt without gtk

2013-04-28 Thread Rex Dieter
Eugene Pivnev wrote: As I'm trying to create gtk-/gnome-/kde*-free environment (QtDesktop) - I tested - what about Fedora without them? So: 1. yum remove gtk3: ... * gvfs * qt-mobility * qtwebkit * ffmpeg * ffmpeg-libs * mplayer * phonon * smplayer 2. yum remove gtk2: all above+

Re: Mission Impossible #1: qt without gtk

2013-04-28 Thread Farkas Levente
On 04/28/2013 10:58 PM, Rex Dieter wrote: Eugene Pivnev wrote: As I'm trying to create gtk-/gnome-/kde*-free environment (QtDesktop) - I tested - what about Fedora without them? So: 1. yum remove gtk3: ... * gvfs * qt-mobility * qtwebkit * ffmpeg * ffmpeg-libs * mplayer * phonon *

Re: Mission Impossible #1: qt without gtk

2013-04-28 Thread Eugene Pivnev
As pcmafm developer said - gvfm use gobject - but not gtk or gnome libs. I showed only packages that I was surprised. E.g. ffmpeg requires gtk. Very nice. On 04/28/2013 10:58 PM, Rex Dieter wrote: Eugene Pivnev wrote: As I'm trying to create gtk-/gnome-/kde*-free environment (QtDesktop) - I

Re: Mission Impossible #1: qt without gtk

2013-04-28 Thread Nicolas Chauvet
2013/4/29 Eugene Pivnev ti.eug...@gmail.com As pcmafm developer said - gvfm use gobject - but not gtk or gnome libs. I showed only packages that I was surprised. E.g. ffmpeg requires gtk. Very nice. It's probably because of opencv, It can probably be spitted carefully at runtime, but