Re: Modularity survey - results

2020-05-20 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 7:56:35 AM MST Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 19. 05. 20 16:46, Christopher wrote: > > > Interesting that the survey shows that the most common response was that > > people use it "not at all" and the overall response was negative, but > > the reaction to that is, "improve the

Re: Modularity survey - results

2020-05-20 Thread Kevin Kofler
Daniel Mach wrote: > Our goal (I speak for the people who *currently* work on Modularity > project at Red Hat) is *not* pushing anyone to use Modularity. It's up > to Fesco, SIGs, spin maintainers and individual package maintainers to > make their choices. But our point is that it should be up to

Re: Modularity survey - results

2020-05-20 Thread Kevin Kofler
Christopher wrote: > Interesting that the survey shows that the most common response was that > people use it "not at all" and the overall response was negative, but the > reaction to that is, "improve the docs" and "works as intended". Am I the > only one who thinks that the people pushing

Re: Modularity survey - results

2020-05-20 Thread Daniel Mach
Dne 19. 05. 20 v 16:56 Miro Hrončok napsal(a): On 19. 05. 20 16:46, Christopher wrote: Interesting that the survey shows that the most common response was that people use it "not at all" and the overall response was negative, but the reaction to that is, "improve the docs" and "works as

Re: Modularity survey - results

2020-05-19 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 19. 05. 20 16:46, Christopher wrote: Interesting that the survey shows that the most common response was that people use it "not at all" and the overall response was negative, but the reaction to that is, "improve the docs" and "works as intended". Am I the only one who thinks that the

Re: Modularity survey - results

2020-05-19 Thread Christopher
of your responses to the Modularity > survey. You can find the results posted on the Fedora community blog[1]. > > Thanks to all of you who filled the survey and provided detailed > explanation of what works and what not. > > > [1] https://

Modularity survey - results

2020-05-19 Thread Daniel Mach
Hello everyone, We have finally evaluated all of your responses to the Modularity survey. You can find the results posted on the Fedora community blog[1]. Thanks to all of you who filled the survey and provided detailed explanation of what works and what not. [1] https

Re: Modularity Survey

2020-04-20 Thread Kevin Kofler
John M. Harris Jr wrote: > Let's be honest, this doesn't even really make sense for RHEL. I agree that the current design of Modularity is inherently flawed (because it allows version conflicts to happen that cannot be resolved by the user), but in the context of RHEL, I can see where the

Re: Modularity Survey

2020-04-20 Thread Nicolas Mailhot via devel
Le lundi 13 avril 2020 à 13:34 -0400, Matthew Miller a écrit : > On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 01:30:57PM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > That is another major concern, that decisions made by Fedora for > > Fedora > > users depend more and more on input from people (and companies) who > > are NOT > >

Re: Modularity Survey

2020-04-16 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Saturday, April 11, 2020 4:30:57 AM MST Kevin Kofler wrote: > Alex Scheel wrote: > > > Look folks. This isn't a Fedora-only survey. It is a survey run by Red > > Hat > > members who are looking to engage with a community that includes Fedora, > > Red Hat, CentOS and a bunch of other

Re: Modularity Survey

2020-04-13 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 01:30:57PM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > That is another major concern, that decisions made by Fedora for Fedora > users depend more and more on input from people (and companies) who are NOT > Fedora users. What makes sense for RHEL and/or CentOS does not necessarily >

Re: Modularity Survey

2020-04-11 Thread Kevin Kofler
Alex Scheel wrote: > Look folks. This isn't a Fedora-only survey. It is a survey run by Red Hat > members who are looking to engage with a community that includes Fedora, > Red Hat, CentOS and a bunch of other stakeholders as well. I think we can > all recognize that Google Apps usage is high

Re: Modularity Survey

2020-04-08 Thread Kamil Paral
On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 7:18 PM Adam Williamson wrote: > > I personally considered it quite clear that the intended meaning was that > > they are not giving the data away to anyone external deliberately. Your > > responses will be read and understood by a very small group of people and > > not

Re: Modularity Survey

2020-04-08 Thread Daniel Mach
Updated. Thanks both of you for the suggestion. Dne 08. 04. 20 v 19:59 Adam Williamson napsal(a): On Wed, 2020-04-08 at 13:47 -0400, Alex Scheel wrote: Hey Daniel, do you mind updating the GDPR compliance tag to include Google? Right, this is all I intended in the first place :) A simple:

Re: Modularity Survey

2020-04-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2020-04-08 at 13:47 -0400, Alex Scheel wrote: > Hey Daniel, do you mind updating the GDPR compliance tag to include > Google? Right, this is all I intended in the first place :) A simple: -The raw data will not be provided to anyone else at Red Hat or any 3rd parties +The raw data will

Re: Modularity Survey

2020-04-08 Thread Alex Scheel
Hey Daniel, do you mind updating the GDPR compliance tag to include Google? Thanks! - Original Message - > From: "Adam Williamson" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 1:22:27 PM > Subject: Re: Modula

Re: Modularity Survey

2020-04-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2020-04-08 at 08:41 -0400, Alex Scheel wrote: > > There's a marketing piece from 2017 that alleges that none of gsuite > (including their gmail for gsuite!) gets scanned for ads: > >

Re: Modularity Survey

2020-04-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2020-04-08 at 10:25 +0200, Kamil Paral wrote: > On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 7:22 PM Adam Williamson > wrote: > > > On Tue, 2020-04-07 at 13:12 -0400, Alex Scheel wrote: > > > I'm sure we can trust that Red Hat did its > > > > > > due diligence and Google isn't using responses to a customer's

Re: Modularity Survey

2020-04-08 Thread Alex Scheel
8, 2020 4:25:55 AM > Subject: Re: Modularity Survey > > On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 7:22 PM Adam Williamson > wrote: > > > On Tue, 2020-04-07 at 13:12 -0400, Alex Scheel wrote: > > > I'm sure we can trust that Red Hat did its > > > > > > due diligence and Goo

Re: Modularity Survey

2020-04-08 Thread Kamil Paral
On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 7:22 PM Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2020-04-07 at 13:12 -0400, Alex Scheel wrote: > > I'm sure we can trust that Red Hat did its > > > > due diligence and Google isn't using responses to a customer's form to > > > > track those taking the survey. > > I don't really

Re: Modularity Survey

2020-04-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2020-04-07 at 13:12 -0400, Alex Scheel wrote: > I'm sure we can trust that Red Hat did its > > due diligence and Google isn't using responses to a customer's form to > > track those taking the survey. I don't really know why you'd think anyone can trust that. Google tracks everyone

Re: Modularity Survey

2020-04-07 Thread Alex Scheel
- Original Message - > From: "Xavier Bachelot" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > , "Kevin Kofler" > > Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 12:15:37 PM > Subject: Re: Modularity Survey > > Le 07/04/2020 à 12:29, Kevin Kof

Re: Modularity Survey

2020-04-07 Thread Xavier Bachelot
Le 07/04/2020 à 12:29, Kevin Kofler a écrit : Adam Williamson wrote: Well. Uh. Clearly it's being provided to *Google*. Indeed. Once again, Fedora is depending on third-party, proprietary, privacy-invading SaaS. Meets exactly my thoughts... This is yet again another disappointing choice of

Re: Modularity Survey

2020-04-07 Thread Kevin Kofler
Adam Williamson wrote: > Well. Uh. Clearly it's being provided to *Google*. Indeed. Once again, Fedora is depending on third-party, proprietary, privacy-invading SaaS. Kevin Kofler ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To

[EPEL-devel] Fwd: Modularity Survey

2020-04-04 Thread Miro Hrončok
, 2020 at 9:54 AM Subject: Modularity Survey To: Development discussions related to Fedora Hello everyone, On behalf of Red Hat's Modularity team, I'd like to ask you to fill out a survey on Modularity: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScOA97rGONieSOYmlZLsHdkq-EhdePZ4IN3RwOjJKd1F1a9sw

Re: Modularity Survey

2020-04-03 Thread Adam Williamson
f_link > > Our goal is to use your feedback to improve Modularity, its > documentation and hopefully fix any issues you may have. > > > Modularity Survey > - > The purpose of this survey is to get feedback on Modularity. > > It is divided in

Fwd: Modularity Survey

2020-04-03 Thread Ben Cotton
at 9:54 AM Subject: Modularity Survey To: Development discussions related to Fedora Hello everyone, On behalf of Red Hat's Modularity team, I'd like to ask you to fill out a survey on Modularity: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScOA97rGONieSOYmlZLsHdkq-EhdePZ4IN3RwOjJKd1F1a9sw/viewform

Fwd: Modularity Survey

2020-04-03 Thread Ben Cotton
at 9:54 AM Subject: Modularity Survey To: Development discussions related to Fedora Hello everyone, On behalf of Red Hat's Modularity team, I'd like to ask you to fill out a survey on Modularity: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScOA97rGONieSOYmlZLsHdkq-EhdePZ4IN3RwOjJKd1F1a9sw/viewform

Modularity Survey

2020-04-03 Thread Daniel Mach
documentation and hopefully fix any issues you may have. Modularity Survey - The purpose of this survey is to get feedback on Modularity. It is divided into 4 sections: * Information about yourself (optional) * Modularity & you * Problems with Modularity you may have experie