Re: My experiences with KillUserProcesses=yes on F24

2016-09-01 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> "NK" == Nico Kadel-Garcia writes: NK> To me, it looks like systemd is activating a universal policy which NK> you, and others, need more thoughtful and tunable handling for. NK> Attempting to tune it by outsmarting systemd's default behavior NK> looks expensive and

Re: My experiences with KillUserProcesses=yes on F24

2016-09-01 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Sep 01, 2016 at 04:13:13AM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > Agreed. The acceptance of the feature without any logging, whatsoever, > of what processes it killed and when shocked me. It's the sort of But note that we _didn't accept the feature without any logging. And see

Re: My experiences with KillUserProcesses=yes on F24

2016-09-01 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 10:25 AM, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > After reading (some of) the "discussion" about systemd-logind's > KillUserProcesses setting, I decided that I'd like to try enabling it > and see how it works and how I can make it useful in my environment. >

Re: My experiences with KillUserProcesses=yes on F24

2016-08-31 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 09:25:22AM -0500, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > Hope this is interesting to someone and adds useful content to the > discussion. I think it does — thanks for your real-world observations! -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader -- devel mailing

Re: My experiences with KillUserProcesses=yes on F24

2016-08-31 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 08/31/2016 02:25 PM, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: More appropriate place would be to post this upstream either on the mailinglist and or as an bug/rfs in the tracker so this issues can be addressed properly. Lingering is a per-user thing so it probably ends up being an per user opt in

Re: My experiences with KillUserProcesses=yes on F24

2016-08-31 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> "JLT" == Jason L Tibbitts writes: JLT>I've found that if the user's user manager dies (for any reason JLT>you might choose) and linger is enable for them, a new one won't JLT>be started at login. They have to disable linger, log out, and JLT>log back in.

My experiences with KillUserProcesses=yes on F24

2016-08-31 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
After reading (some of) the "discussion" about systemd-logind's KillUserProcesses setting, I decided that I'd like to try enabling it and see how it works and how I can make it useful in my environment. Sorry, it's long, but I though folks might want to know. Disclaimer: I quite like systemd and