Re: NVIDIA Open-Source GPU Kernel Modules: How does that affect Fedora Linux?

[Jeremy Newton]

As far as I know, RedHat is working with Nvidia to get this upstream and 
working with nouveau.

I'm sure there's a bunch of challenges around that though, so I don't expect 
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Re: NVIDIA Open-Source GPU Kernel Modules: How does that affect Fedora Linux?

[Leigh Scott]

> On 12/05/2022 07:43, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> 
> I think these kernel modules should be upstreamed directly to the Linux 
> kernel.
 That would block the use of 390xx, 470xx and mai, see

http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/515.43.04/README/kernel_open.html
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Re: NVIDIA Open-Source GPU Kernel Modules: How does that affect Fedora Linux?

[Vitaly Zaitsev via devel]

On 12/05/2022 11:40, Aleksandra Fedorova wrote:
And it seems that the most immediate impact we will see is the changes 
and improvements in the noveau driver.


This will only be possible if NVIDIA releases GPU specs.

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Re: NVIDIA Open-Source GPU Kernel Modules: How does that affect Fedora Linux?

[Vitaly Zaitsev via devel]

On 12/05/2022 07:43, Miro Hrončok wrote:
As far as I know this would still not be acceptable in Fedora due to the 
"No external kernel modules" rule, right?


I think these kernel modules should be upstreamed directly to the Linux 
kernel.


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Re: NVIDIA Open-Source GPU Kernel Modules: How does that affect Fedora Linux?

[Leigh Scott]

I don't think Nvidia has any intention to add this to mainline kernel as it 
would block use of the propriety driver.
I zero interest in  packaging it for rpmfusion as it's so limited, see

http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/515.43.04/README/kernel_open.html
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Re: NVIDIA Open-Source GPU Kernel Modules: How does that affect Fedora Linux?

[Aleksandra Fedorova]

Hi,

On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 7:44 AM Miro Hrončok  wrote:

> Hello Fedorans. I suppose this changes things, right? But how?
>
>
> https://developer.nvidia.com/blog/nvidia-releases-open-source-gpu-kernel-modules/
>
> As far as I know this would still not be acceptable in Fedora due to the
> "No
> external kernel modules" rule, right?
>
>
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/what-can-be-packaged/#_no_external_kernel_modules
>
>

Christian Schaller has posted an article on that:

https://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2022/05/11/why-is-the-open-source-driver-release-from-nvidia-so-important-for-linux/

As I understood it, there is still a lot of work to be done for this driver
to be usable in generic use cases.

This step is a huge thing for NVIDIA and the industry, but it is just a
first step. And it seems that the most immediate impact we will see is the
changes and improvements in the noveau driver.


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Re: NVIDIA Open-Source GPU Kernel Modules: How does that affect Fedora Linux?

[Peter Robinson]

> Hello Fedorans. I suppose this changes things, right? But how?
>
> https://developer.nvidia.com/blog/nvidia-releases-open-source-gpu-kernel-modules/

In the short term this changes little, the should be build-able
similar to how the other proprietary NV kernel modules are now though.
In time they'll no doubt go upstream, either in their own right or be
integrated into the nouveau driver. This will take time and I suspect
the outcome will be very similar to the way the AMD GPU drivers work
where they have an open driver and a firmware.

Overall it's good news and positive for all of the ecosystem. It seems
also it's primarily focused, at least initially, on their data centre
GPUs so I suspect they'll be more stable/useful for AI/ML/CUDA
workloads than the average desktop user.

> As far as I know this would still not be acceptable in Fedora due to the "No
> external kernel modules" rule, right?
>
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/what-can-be-packaged/#_no_external_kernel_modules
>
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Re: NVIDIA Open-Source GPU Kernel Modules: How does that affect Fedora Linux?

[Carmelo Sarta]

This is certainly good news but I think we'll need to wait until a release
on the mainline.

On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 7:44 AM Miro Hrončok  wrote:

> Hello Fedorans. I suppose this changes things, right? But how?
>
>
> https://developer.nvidia.com/blog/nvidia-releases-open-source-gpu-kernel-modules/
>
> As far as I know this would still not be acceptable in Fedora due to the
> "No
> external kernel modules" rule, right?
>
>
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/what-can-be-packaged/#_no_external_kernel_modules
>
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NVIDIA Open-Source GPU Kernel Modules: How does that affect Fedora Linux?

[Miro Hrončok]

Hello Fedorans. I suppose this changes things, right? But how?

https://developer.nvidia.com/blog/nvidia-releases-open-source-gpu-kernel-modules/

As far as I know this would still not be acceptable in Fedora due to the "No 
external kernel modules" rule, right?


https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/what-can-be-packaged/#_no_external_kernel_modules

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