On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 4:19 PM, David wrote:
> On 15 February 2010 11:19, Arthur G wrote:
>> rolling - as in the song - rolling, rolling, rolling, rawhide!
>
> +1
>
> giving 3 names for trees/branches:
>
> rawhide ---> rolling ---> release
>
> Reasons it appeals to me:
> 1) humorous reference to
Thanks Dave,
Here's one borrowed from the music industry.
mastering (or starting with R - remastering)
I've used this concept successfully for commercial orgs during their
release finalizing stages.
Arthur.
On 18 February 2010 10:19, David wrote:
> On 15 February 2010 11:19, Arthur G wrote:
On 15 February 2010 11:19, Arthur G wrote:
> rolling - as in the song - rolling, rolling, rolling, rawhide!
+1
giving 3 names for trees/branches:
rawhide ---> rolling ---> release
Reasons it appeals to me:
1) humorous reference to the song
2) alliteration, it reads nice, everything begins with
On 17/02/10 08:49, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 08:34:01 +,
>Frank Murphy wrote:
>>
>> I presume "branched" will then be repointed to an alpha F14.
>> rawhide F15
>
> That doesn't happen at the release of F13, but rather at F14 alpha freeze.
Sorry bad wording.
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On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 08:34:01 +,
Frank Murphy wrote:
>
> I presume "branched" will then be repointed to an alpha F14.
> rawhide F15
That doesn't happen at the release of F13, but rather at F14 alpha freeze.
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On 17/02/10 08:31, Björn Persson wrote:
> Jesse Keating wrote:
--snipped--
> So when Fedora 13 has been released, is it then no longer branched? It's still
> branched from Rawhide but it's not in the Branched state anymore. Doesn't that
> sound a bit awkward?
>
> Björn Persson
>
I presume "branch
Jesse Keating wrote:
> Looking at a set of wiki pages to work on today, I had another thought.
> We could just call it 'Branched', as in, "Fedora 13 has Branched",
> "Branched Freeze Policy", "Once a Fedora release has branched from
> rawhide, ", "Mark this test-update as stable to go into the
On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 09:21:35 -0800
Jesse Keating wrote:
> On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 16:45 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote:
> > As part of no frozen rawhide, we'll have a new tree on the mirrors,
> > pub/fedora/linux/development/13 That's where we'll be putting
> > things that are tagged for the release a
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 16:45 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote:
> As part of no frozen rawhide, we'll have a new tree on the mirrors,
> pub/fedora/linux/development/13 That's where we'll be putting things
> that are tagged for the release after they get through testing. We
> don't yet have a clever name
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 8:53 AM, Jon Masters wrote:
> On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 16:45 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote:
>> As part of no frozen rawhide, we'll have a new tree on the mirrors,
>> pub/fedora/linux/development/13 That's where we'll be putting things
>> that are tagged for the release after the
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 16:45 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote:
> As part of no frozen rawhide, we'll have a new tree on the mirrors,
> pub/fedora/linux/development/13 That's where we'll be putting things
> that are tagged for the release after they get through testing. We
> don't yet have a clever name
On 02/15/2010 09:12 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 11:25:03 +0100,
> Roberto Ragusa wrote:
>>
>> The obvious way to call something which is not 13, but is something
>> a little less than 13 is 12.9, but I agree with you that it would be better
>> to have 13 in the name inst
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 11:25:03 +0100,
Roberto Ragusa wrote:
>
> The obvious way to call something which is not 13, but is something
> a little less than 13 is 12.9, but I agree with you that it would be better
> to have 13 in the name instead of 12, so, logically:
>
> 12.0, 12.1, 12.2, 1
Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 11:57:51 -0500,
> Mail Lists wrote:
>> Maybe follow the kernel naming scheme ..
>>
>> 12 is the released version
>> 12.x is what will become 13 ..
>> 13.rc is now a release candidate (no longer development)
>> 13 is released
>
> Anythin
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 11:57:51 -0500,
Mail Lists wrote:
>
> Maybe follow the kernel naming scheme ..
>
> 12 is the released version
> 12.x is what will become 13 ..
> 13.rc is now a release candidate (no longer development)
> 13 is released
Anything related to the next release sho
rolling - as in the song - rolling, rolling, rolling, rawhide!
On 15 February 2010 11:06, Mike Chambers wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 09:37 +1000, Peter Hutterer wrote:
>
> Of course, if wanna keep the "gold" name for the official release path,
> could rename other and use below..
>
> bronze -
On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 09:37 +1000, Peter Hutterer wrote:
Of course, if wanna keep the "gold" name for the official release path,
could rename other and use below..
bronze - current rawhide
silver - current devel branch for next release
gold - current officially released branch
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On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 04:45:32PM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote:
> As part of no frozen rawhide, we'll have a new tree on the mirrors,
> pub/fedora/linux/development/13 That's where we'll be putting things
> that are tagged for the release after they get through testing. We
> don't yet have a cleve
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 18:38, Jesse Keating wrote:
> On Sun, 2010-02-14 at 17:29 +0100, Mathieu Bridon wrote:
>> On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 16:52, Mike Chambers wrote:
>> > Rawhide - Rawhide dir as we know it
>> > Tanning - Devel branch for next release, in this case 13
>> > Leather - Official rele
Jesse Keating said the following on 02/14/2010 08:24 AM Pacific Time:
> On Sun, 2010-02-14 at 07:54 -0800, John Poelstra wrote:
>> I don't see the awkwardness either.
>>
>> I see it adding simplicity which is what we need vs. another name we
>> have to explain to people less involved in the develop
On Sun, 2010-02-14 at 17:29 +0100, Mathieu Bridon wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 16:52, Mike Chambers wrote:
> > Rawhide - Rawhide dir as we know it
> > Tanning - Devel branch for next release, in this case 13
> > Leather - Official release path, in this case, 12.
>
> Haikel had already suggest
On 02/14/2010 10:52 AM, Mike Chambers wrote:
> Rawhide - Rawhide dir as we know it
> Tanning - Devel branch for next release, in this case 13
> Leather - Official release path, in this case, 12.
>
> That's the basic process of creating leather, so why not go with it
> (minus leather if want to)?
On 02/14/2010 11:24 AM, Jesse Keating wrote:
> How do you easily answer the question "What state is Fedora 13 in right
> now?"
>
> We can say "It's in rawhide still", we can say "It's released", what we
> don't have is what it is between those two. We could potentially use
> "It's in Alpha, it's
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 16:52, Mike Chambers wrote:
> Rawhide - Rawhide dir as we know it
> Tanning - Devel branch for next release, in this case 13
> Leather - Official release path, in this case, 12.
Haikel had already suggested « tanning », and I must say I really like
the analogy. Except that
On Sun, 2010-02-14 at 07:54 -0800, John Poelstra wrote:
> I don't see the awkwardness either.
>
> I see it adding simplicity which is what we need vs. another name we
> have to explain to people less involved in the development/release
> process: what it is, if they should use it, etc.
>
> Here
Adam Williamson said the following on 02/14/2010 12:00 AM Pacific Time:
> On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 07:48 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote:
>> On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 21:18 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
>>> Why not just call it 13 now, and 14 next time, and so on? It doesn't
>>> really need to have its own nam
On Sun, 2010-02-14 at 15:35 +0100, Robin Sonefors wrote:
> Now, from my experience in the Ubuntu community, nobody actually
> understands this, while a significantly higher percentage of Ubuntu
> users knows what Debian's stable/testing/unstable means. I think this
> suggests that the Debian model
On sön, 2010-02-14 at 00:00 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> Why can't you just say 'The Fedora 13 repo' and 'things go into Fedora
> 13'? As others have said, this is how Ubuntu does it and it seems to
> work fine there.
Technically, it's not.
Ubuntu uses their animal names for in-development cod
Mail Lists wrote:
> On 02/13/2010 01:34 PM, Jesse Keating wrote:
>> On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 11:07 -0500, Mail Lists wrote:
>
>> "Pre" or "Prerelease" was the name we used to use for Beta, so that's
>> not saving any confusion there :/
>>
>
>
> Ok - how about 13-dev ... or 13-frontier .. or 13-al
On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 22:36 +0100, Louis Lagendijk wrote:
> On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 07:11 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote:
> > On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 07:36 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote:
> > >
> > > rawhide - packages for rawhide dir
> > > testing - packages for current development release going to testing
>
On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 07:48 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote:
> On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 21:18 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > Why not just call it 13 now, and 14 next time, and so on? It doesn't
> > really need to have its own name that's always the same...
>
> Mostly because it becomes awkward to talk
On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 11:06 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Jesse Keating wrote:
> > As part of no frozen rawhide, we'll have a new tree on the mirrors,
> > pub/fedora/linux/development/13 That's where we'll be putting things
> > that are tagged for the release after they get through testing. We
> >
On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 10:36:00 -0800
Jesse Keating wrote:
> On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 16:03 +, Frank Murphy wrote:
> > CuredHide
>
> Actually, I kind of like where this is going. Rawhide -> Curing ->
> Stable
>
braising ... what a meal will it be ...
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On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 07:11 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote:
> On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 07:36 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote:
> >
> > rawhide - packages for rawhide dir
> > testing - packages for current development release going to testing
> > stable - packages for current development release going to main
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Jesse Keating wrote:
> As part of no frozen rawhide, we'll have a new tree on the mirrors,
> pub/fedora/linux/development/13 That's where we'll be putting things
> that are tagged for the release after they get through testing. We
> don't yet have a clever name f
On 02/13/2010 01:34 PM, Jesse Keating wrote:
> On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 11:07 -0500, Mail Lists wrote:
> "Pre" or "Prerelease" was the name we used to use for Beta, so that's
> not saving any confusion there :/
>
Ok - how about 13-dev ... or 13-frontier .. or 13-alpha .. or even
13-not-yet-
On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 16:03 +, Frank Murphy wrote:
> CuredHide
Actually, I kind of like where this is going. Rawhide -> Curing ->
Stable
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On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 11:07 -0500, Mail Lists wrote:
> How about call it 13pre ... keep it simple and what it is - no need
> for
> contortions.
"Pre" or "Prerelease" was the name we used to use for Beta, so that's
not saving any confusion there :/
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On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 16:52:55 +0100,
Sven Lankes wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 07:48:07AM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote:
>
> >> Why not just call it 13 now, and 14 next time, and so on? It doesn't
> >> really need to have its own name that's always the same...
>
> > Mostly because it beco
On 02/13/2010 10:48 AM, Jesse Keating wrote:
> On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 21:18 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
>> Why not just call it 13 now, and 14 next time, and so on? It doesn't
>> really need to have its own name that's always the same...
>
How about call it 13pre ... keep it simple and what it
On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 07:48:07AM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote:
>> Why not just call it 13 now, and 14 next time, and so on? It doesn't
>> really need to have its own name that's always the same...
> Mostly because it becomes awkward to talk about things in "13" before 13
> is released,
In my w
On 13/02/10 00:45, Jesse Keating wrote:
> As part of no frozen rawhide, we'll have a new tree on the mirrors,
> pub/fedora/linux/development/13 That's where we'll be putting things
> that are tagged for the release after they get through testing. We
> don't yet have a clever name for this concept
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 21:18 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> Why not just call it 13 now, and 14 next time, and so on? It doesn't
> really need to have its own name that's always the same...
Mostly because it becomes awkward to talk about things in "13" before 13
is released, and when we're trying
On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 09:25 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote:
> staging - devel release for main dir
We use the term staging when we have are putting things on the master
mirror for our other mirrors to pick up (:
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On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 07:11 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote:
> On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 07:36 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote:
> >
> > rawhide - packages for rawhide dir
> > testing - packages for current development release going to testing
> > stable - packages for current development release going to main
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Jesse Keating wrote:
> As part of no frozen rawhide, we'll have a new tree on the mirrors,
> pub/fedora/linux/development/13 That's where we'll be putting things
> that are tagged for the release after they get through testing. We
> don't yet have a clever name fo
On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 07:36 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote:
>
> rawhide - packages for rawhide dir
> testing - packages for current development release going to testing
> stable - packages for current development release going to main dir
> release - packages for current officially released already g
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 16:45 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote:
> As part of no frozen rawhide, we'll have a new tree on the mirrors,
> pub/fedora/linux/development/13 That's where we'll be putting things
> that are tagged for the release after they get through testing. We
> don't yet have a clever name
Jesse Keating wrote:
> As part of no frozen rawhide, we'll have a new tree on the mirrors,
> pub/fedora/linux/development/13 That's where we'll be putting things
> that are tagged for the release after they get through testing. We
> don't yet have a clever name for this concept yet, and we've jus
On 13/02/10 05:18, Adam Williamson wrote:
--snipped--
>> Want to help us come up with a term we could use to reference this tree?
>> Email away!
>
> Why not just call it 13 now, and 14 next time, and so on? It doesn't
> really need to have its own name that's always the same...
+2
Easier tell the
Le 13/02/2010 01:45, Jesse Keating a écrit :
> As part of no frozen rawhide, we'll have a new tree on the mirrors,
> pub/fedora/linux/development/13 That's where we'll be putting things
> that are tagged for the release after they get through testing. We
> don't yet have a clever name for this co
On 13.02.2010 06:18, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 16:45 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote:
>> As part of no frozen rawhide, we'll have a new tree on the mirrors,
>> pub/fedora/linux/development/13 That's where we'll be putting things
>> that are tagged for the release after they get thr
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 16:45 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote:
> As part of no frozen rawhide, we'll have a new tree on the mirrors,
> pub/fedora/linux/development/13 That's where we'll be putting things
> that are tagged for the release after they get through testing. We
> don't yet have a clever name
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> >> On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 17:35 -0800, Josh Stone wrote:
> >>> On 02/12/2
vanguard
Its got a nice "we're leading the way" ring to it :)
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On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Jesse Keating wrote:
> As part of no frozen rawhide, we'll have a new tree on the mirrors,
> pub/fedora/linux/development/13 That's where we'll be putting things
> that are tagged for the release after they get through testing. We
> don't yet have a clever name f
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 16:45 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote:
> As part of no frozen rawhide, we'll have a new tree on the mirrors,
> pub/fedora/linux/development/13 That's where we'll be putting things
> that are tagged for the release after they get through testing. We
> don't yet have a clever name
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 04:45:32PM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote:
> As part of no frozen rawhide, we'll have a new tree on the mirrors,
> pub/fedora/linux/development/13 That's where we'll be putting things
> that are tagged for the release after they get through testing. We
> don't yet have a cleve
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On 02/13/2010 07:17 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 11:39:45 +1000
> Dave Airlie wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 17:35 -0800, Josh Stone wrote:
>>> On 02/12/2010 04:45 PM, Jesse Keating wrote:
As part of no frozen rawhide, we'll h
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010, Jesse Keating wrote:
> As part of no frozen rawhide, we'll have a new tree on the mirrors,
> pub/fedora/linux/development/13 That's where we'll be putting things
> that are tagged for the release after they get through testing. We
> don't yet have a clever name for this co
On 02/12/2010 04:45 PM, Jesse Keating wrote:
> As part of no frozen rawhide, we'll have a new tree on the mirrors,
> pub/fedora/linux/development/13 That's where we'll be putting things
> that are tagged for the release after they get through testing. We
> don't yet have a clever name for this co
On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 11:39:45 +1000
Dave Airlie wrote:
> On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 17:35 -0800, Josh Stone wrote:
> > On 02/12/2010 04:45 PM, Jesse Keating wrote:
> > > As part of no frozen rawhide, we'll have a new tree on the
> > > mirrors, pub/fedora/linux/development/13 That's where we'll be
> >
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 17:35 -0800, Josh Stone wrote:
> On 02/12/2010 04:45 PM, Jesse Keating wrote:
> > As part of no frozen rawhide, we'll have a new tree on the mirrors,
> > pub/fedora/linux/development/13 That's where we'll be putting things
> > that are tagged for the release after they get th
On 02/12/2010 04:45 PM, Jesse Keating wrote:
> As part of no frozen rawhide, we'll have a new tree on the mirrors,
> pub/fedora/linux/development/13 That's where we'll be putting things
> that are tagged for the release after they get through testing. We
> don't yet have a clever name for this co
As part of no frozen rawhide, we'll have a new tree on the mirrors,
pub/fedora/linux/development/13 That's where we'll be putting things
that are tagged for the release after they get through testing. We
don't yet have a clever name for this concept yet, and we've just been
calling it "Pending".
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