Re: New release cycle proposal (was Rolling release model philosophy (was ...))

2012-11-07 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 06.11.2012 19:48, schrieb Peter Lemenkov: > Hello All. > > 2012/11/6 Matthieu Gautier : >> For example, if we start from Fedora20 at beginning of 2014: >> - Fedora20(jan 2014) is a stable release. (Fedora18 eol, actual way of >> doing) >> - Fedora21Preview(jul 2014) is an "unstable" release.

Re: New release cycle proposal (was Rolling release model philosophy (was ...))

2012-11-06 Thread Matthieu Gautier
Le 06/11/2012 20:19, Mark Bidewell a écrit : > oddly this looks a lot like the Ubuntu release cycle if you replace > stable with LTS Ubuntu LTS in about 5 years lifetime. Other releases have a lifetime of 18mo. For now, there is 5 maintained ubuntu versions at the same time (the older is from 2008

Re: New release cycle proposal (was Rolling release model philosophy (was ...))

2012-11-06 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 11/06/2012 07:54 PM, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote: One have to say the hard truth - only the latest fedora release is supported by many maintainers because that's what they/we use. Alexander Kurtakov Red Hat Eclipse team Please read and follow the mailinglist guidelines... JBG -- devel maili

Re: New release cycle proposal (was Rolling release model philosophy (was ...))

2012-11-06 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
ent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 9:19:41 PM > Subject: Re: New release cycle proposal (was Rolling release model philosophy > (was ...)) > > Le 06/11/2012 20:05, Peter Lemenkov a écrit : > > 2012/11/6 Matthieu Gautier : > >>> So you not a maintainer but you still suggesti

Re: New release cycle proposal (was Rolling release model philosophy (was ...))

2012-11-06 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Tue, 2012-11-06 at 22:24 +0300, Peter Lemenkov wrote: > 2012/11/6 Matthieu Gautier : > > > Hum.. It should be some misunderstanding somewhere : > > Definitely. Please stop talking about things you have no idea about. You can also just show him where he is wrong rather than being pedantic. Aft

Re: New release cycle proposal (was Rolling release model philosophy (was ...))

2012-11-06 Thread Peter Lemenkov
2012/11/6 Matthieu Gautier : > Hum.. It should be some misunderstanding somewhere : Definitely. Please stop talking about things you have no idea about. -- With best regards, Peter Lemenkov. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/d

Re: New release cycle proposal (was Rolling release model philosophy (was ...))

2012-11-06 Thread Mark Bidewell
oddly this looks a lot like the Ubuntu release cycle if you replace stable with LTS On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Jason Brooks wrote: > On 11/06/2012 10:55 AM, Matthieu Gautier wrote: > > No, I never suggest that. Preview versions have a timelife of 6mo >> instead of 12. >> Stable version ha

Re: New release cycle proposal (was Rolling release model philosophy (was ...))

2012-11-06 Thread Matthieu Gautier
Le 06/11/2012 20:05, Peter Lemenkov a écrit : > 2012/11/6 Matthieu Gautier : >>> So you not a maintainer but you still suggesting that we, maintainers, >>> should do 2 times more job by supporting several simultaneous Fedora >>> versions instead of 3 right now for more than two years. And that's >>

Re: New release cycle proposal (was Rolling release model philosophy (was ...))

2012-11-06 Thread Jason Brooks
On 11/06/2012 10:55 AM, Matthieu Gautier wrote: No, I never suggest that. Preview versions have a timelife of 6mo instead of 12. Stable version have a lifetime of 24mo (12mo for regular updates) instead of 12. The cycle would have to go: stable, preview, preview, stable, and so on to avoid ma

Re: New release cycle proposal (was Rolling release model philosophy (was ...))

2012-11-06 Thread Peter Lemenkov
2012/11/6 Matthieu Gautier : >> So you not a maintainer but you still suggesting that we, maintainers, >> should do 2 times more job by supporting several simultaneous Fedora >> versions instead of 3 right now for more than two years. And that's >> all just because you think it's a good idea to spe

Re: New release cycle proposal (was Rolling release model philosophy (was ...))

2012-11-06 Thread Matthieu Gautier
Le 06/11/2012 19:48, Peter Lemenkov a écrit : > Hello All. > > 2012/11/6 Matthieu Gautier : >> For example, if we start from Fedora20 at beginning of 2014: >> - Fedora20(jan 2014) is a stable release. (Fedora18 eol, actual way of >> doing) >> - Fedora21Preview(jul 2014) is an "unstable" release. (F

Re: New release cycle proposal (was Rolling release model philosophy (was ...))

2012-11-06 Thread Peter Lemenkov
Hello 2012/11/6 Jason Brooks : > For those who upgrade each release (or sooner), a 6mo life span for the > latest release wouldn't matter. Those who don't want to upgrade every six > months might well appreciate the two year life span. They should pay for RHEL. -- With best regards, Peter Lemenk

Re: New release cycle proposal (was Rolling release model philosophy (was ...))

2012-11-06 Thread Jason Brooks
On 11/06/2012 10:34 AM, Matthieu Gautier wrote: Hello all, I'm not a Fedora developer, nor package maintainer. I'm a French Fedora Ambassador for a long time. (I should say "I was" cause I don't do to many things last time, just wake up every 6 months for Fedora releases and other events). I'm a

Re: New release cycle proposal (was Rolling release model philosophy (was ...))

2012-11-06 Thread Peter Lemenkov
Hello All. 2012/11/6 Matthieu Gautier : > For example, if we start from Fedora20 at beginning of 2014: > - Fedora20(jan 2014) is a stable release. (Fedora18 eol, actual way of > doing) > - Fedora21Preview(jul 2014) is an "unstable" release. (Fedora 19 eol) > - Fedora21(jan 2015) is a stable releas

New release cycle proposal (was Rolling release model philosophy (was ...))

2012-11-06 Thread Matthieu Gautier
Hello all, I'm not a Fedora developer, nor package maintainer. I'm a French Fedora Ambassador for a long time. (I should say "I was" cause I don't do to many things last time, just wake up every 6 months for Fedora releases and other events). I'm also a developer but that's not about Fedora. Whil