Re: Make pkgdb grant co-maintainer status automatically? (was Re: Non-responsive maintainer fast track procedure for libsndfile)

2010-07-24 Thread David Timms
On 07/07/10 20:16, Thomas Spura wrote: To get such a button, to apply for becoming real maintainership makes this possible and is the easiest way, because it doesn't need e.g. a fast track procedure or anyone agreeing from fesco or anyone to change it manually in pkgdb. When you have

Re: Non-responsive maintainer fast track procedure for libsndfile

2010-07-23 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 1:17 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 20:42:57 -0400 Orcan Ogetbil wrote: I have got news. The other day, my ACL request (that I made last year!) for F-10  was approved by ixs. 1 minute later, it was set back to Awaiting Review. Anyone have any idea of

Re: Non-responsive maintainer fast track procedure for libsndfile

2010-07-23 Thread Andreas Thienemann
On Fri, 23 Jul 2010, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: I sent him an email as you asked, once again. And didn't get a response, once again. Good morning. Sorry for the non-responsiveness. Work has been kinda taxing for some time now... Someone pointed me at the discussion here.

Re: Non-responsive maintainer fast track procedure for libsndfile

2010-07-14 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 6:17 PM, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote: Hi all, I'm initiating a fast track procedure for libsndfile -- a security bug has been reported for over a year, and there has been no response from maintainer We made many

Re: Make pkgdb grant co-maintainer status automatically? (was Re: Non-responsive maintainer fast track procedure for libsndfile)

2010-07-07 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 07 Jul 2010 01:53:29 +0200, Kevin wrote: Kevin Fenzi wrote: If some provenpackager want's to maintain it, why don't they take ownership? Because I can fix the occasional broken dependency, [...] ... which hopefully will not be a problem anymore with a revised push process. You

Re: Make pkgdb grant co-maintainer status automatically? (was Re: Non-responsive maintainer fast track procedure for libsndfile)

2010-07-07 Thread Thomas Spura
Am Wed, 07 Jul 2010 01:46:44 +0200 schrieb Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at: Thomas Spura wrote: For me it doesn't make much sense to be co-maintainer everywhere, but actually: 1. doing all the tasks alone. I don't see the big problem. I'm comaintaining a few packages in that way

Re: Non-responsive maintainer fast track procedure for libsndfile

2010-07-07 Thread Michal Hlavinka
On Tuesday, July 06, 2010 01:05:57 Orcan Ogetbil wrote: On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 6:17 PM, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote: Hi all, I'm initiating a fast track procedure for libsndfile -- a security bug has been reported for over a year, and there has been no response from maintainer I've

Make pkgdb grant co-maintainer status automatically? (was Re: Non-responsive maintainer fast track procedure for libsndfile)

2010-07-06 Thread Sven Lankes
On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 09:21:29AM +1000, Chris Jones wrote: This seems to be happening a lot lately regarding maintainers and/or co-maintainers losing interest in their projects somewhere along the line and just stopping development without any warning and notification to other members who

Re: Make pkgdb grant co-maintainer status automatically? (was Re: Non-responsive maintainer fast track procedure for libsndfile)

2010-07-06 Thread Chris Jones
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Sven Lankes s...@lank.es wrote: Maybe we could tweak the pkgdb in a way that a co-maintainer request would automatically be granted if it isn't answered within a long enough timeframe (say 8 weeks). That way packages with AWOL maintainers could grow

Re: Make pkgdb grant co-maintainer status automatically? (was Re: Non-responsive maintainer fast track procedure for libsndfile)

2010-07-06 Thread Alexander Kurtakov
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Sven Lankes s...@lank.es wrote: Maybe we could tweak the pkgdb in a way that a co-maintainer request would automatically be granted if it isn't answered within a long enough timeframe (say 8 weeks). That way packages with AWOL maintainers could

Re: Make pkgdb grant co-maintainer status automatically? (was Re: Non-responsive maintainer fast track procedure for libsndfile)

2010-07-06 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 10:32:06AM +0200, Sven Lankes wrote: On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 09:21:29AM +1000, Chris Jones wrote: This seems to be happening a lot lately regarding maintainers and/or co-maintainers losing interest in their projects somewhere along the line and just stopping

Re: Make pkgdb grant co-maintainer status automatically? (was Re: Non-responsive maintainer fast track procedure for libsndfile)

2010-07-06 Thread Thomas Spura
Am Tue, 6 Jul 2010 10:57:06 +0100 schrieb Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com: On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 10:32:06AM +0200, Sven Lankes wrote: On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 09:21:29AM +1000, Chris Jones wrote: This seems to be happening a lot lately regarding maintainers and/or co-maintainers

Re: Make pkgdb grant co-maintainer status automatically? (was Re: Non-responsive maintainer fast track procedure for libsndfile)

2010-07-06 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 01:26:21PM +0200, Thomas Spura wrote: If this is implemented, the 'next' co-maintainer should become the real maintainer after another 8 weeks non-commiting by the former maintainer. I think this is another problem with pkgdb or Fedora. Why is there a maintainer

Re: Make pkgdb grant co-maintainer status automatically? (was Re: Non-responsive maintainer fast track procedure for libsndfile)

2010-07-06 Thread Patrice Dumas
On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 01:39:43PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: I think this is another problem with pkgdb or Fedora. Why is there a maintainer (owner?) and co-maintainers, rather than just having all co-maintainers be equal? Because this ensures that there is a well defined person who

Re: Make pkgdb grant co-maintainer status automatically? (was Re: Non-responsive maintainer fast track procedure for libsndfile)

2010-07-06 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 6 Jul 2010 13:39:43 +0100, Richard wrote: So I think it's valid for packages to have 0, 1, 2, or more maintainers. Why 0? Who will be notified about bugzilla tickets? Who will receive mail sent to the PACKAGE-owner Fedora e-mail alias? For each package in the collection, there ought

Re: Make pkgdb grant co-maintainer status automatically? (was Re: Non-responsive maintainer fast track procedure for libsndfile)

2010-07-06 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Tue, 6 Jul 2010 13:39:43 +0100, Richard wrote: So I think it's valid for packages to have 0, 1, 2, or more maintainers. Why 0? Who will be notified about bugzilla tickets? Who will receive mail sent to the PACKAGE-owner Fedora

Re: Make pkgdb grant co-maintainer status automatically? (was Re: Non-responsive maintainer fast track procedure for libsndfile)

2010-07-06 Thread Till Maas
On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 10:54:29AM -0400, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Tue, 6 Jul 2010 13:39:43 +0100, Richard wrote: So I think it's valid for packages to have 0, 1, 2, or more maintainers. Why 0? Who will be notified about bugzilla

Re: Make pkgdb grant co-maintainer status automatically? (was Re: Non-responsive maintainer fast track procedure for libsndfile)

2010-07-06 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 12:31:32PM +0300, Alexander Kurtakov wrote: On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Sven Lankes s...@lank.es wrote: Maybe we could tweak the pkgdb in a way that a co-maintainer request would automatically be granted if it isn't answered within a long enough

Re: Make pkgdb grant co-maintainer status automatically? (was Re: Non-responsive maintainer fast track procedure for libsndfile)

2010-07-06 Thread Till Maas
On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 12:00:23PM -0400, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: If anyone wants to help code this, I think the way to do it is to implement an events queue in pkgdb. With the queue we can do two things -- first, have the pkgdb send nagmail when an acl request has not been answered. second

Re: Non-responsive maintainer fast track procedure for libsndfile

2010-07-06 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, 6 Jul 2010 09:21:29 +1000 Chris Jones chrisjo...@comcen.com.au wrote: This seems to be happening a lot lately regarding maintainers and/or co-maintainers losing interest in their projects somewhere along the line and just stopping development without any warning and notification to

Re: Make pkgdb grant co-maintainer status automatically? (was Re: Non-responsive maintainer fast track procedure for libsndfile)

2010-07-06 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, 6 Jul 2010 13:39:43 +0100 Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 01:26:21PM +0200, Thomas Spura wrote: If this is implemented, the 'next' co-maintainer should become the real maintainer after another 8 weeks non-commiting by the former maintainer. I

Re: Make pkgdb grant co-maintainer status automatically? (was Re: Non-responsive maintainer fast track procedure for libsndfile)

2010-07-06 Thread Kevin Kofler
Sven Lankes wrote: Maybe we could tweak the pkgdb in a way that a co-maintainer request would automatically be granted if it isn't answered within a long enough timeframe (say 8 weeks). That way packages with AWOL maintainers could grow co-maintainers without going through the complicated

Re: Make pkgdb grant co-maintainer status automatically? (was Re: Non-responsive maintainer fast track procedure for libsndfile)

2010-07-06 Thread Kevin Kofler
Thomas Spura wrote: For me it doesn't make much sense to be co-maintainer everywhere, but actually: 1. doing all the tasks alone. I don't see the big problem. I'm comaintaining a few packages in that way for a while (xchat and mingw32-nsis come to my mind) and that just works (though I do

Re: Make pkgdb grant co-maintainer status automatically? (was Re: Non-responsive maintainer fast track procedure for libsndfile)

2010-07-06 Thread Kevin Kofler
Till Maas wrote: We can use uberpackagers ;-) or maybe package-monkeys, make it a SIG and then it is afaik already covered by Fedora procedures, because a SIG or group of packagers can own a package, like e.g. the lvm-team. Orcan, Richard, who else is in? As an inclusionist and someone who

Re: Make pkgdb grant co-maintainer status automatically? (was Re: Non-responsive maintainer fast track procedure for libsndfile)

2010-07-06 Thread Kevin Kofler
Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Tue, 6 Jul 2010 13:39:43 +0100 Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote: If #maintainers == 0 then the package is either just sitting there (as long as there are no serious bugs), or is being best-effort maintained by provenpackagers, at least until that becomes a

Re: Make pkgdb grant co-maintainer status automatically? (was Re: Non-responsive maintainer fast track procedure for libsndfile)

2010-07-06 Thread Chris Jones
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: And IMHO 8 weeks is too much, it should be somewhere between 2 and 4.        Kevin Kofler I initially thought 8 weeks was too long also, but I guess people have busy lifestyles. 4 weeks is probably more realistic.

Re: Make pkgdb grant co-maintainer status automatically? (was Re: Non-responsive maintainer fast track procedure for libsndfile)

2010-07-06 Thread Kevin Kofler
Richard W.M. Jones wrote: I think this is another problem with pkgdb or Fedora. Why is there a maintainer (owner?) and co-maintainers, rather than just having all co-maintainers be equal? Good point. I think, just like you, that there should be a list of owners rather than just 1 owner. As

Re: Make pkgdb grant co-maintainer status automatically? (was Re: Non-responsive maintainer fast track procedure for libsndfile)

2010-07-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 01:46 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: (BTW, it's quite funny that the main GTK+-based IRC client is maintained almost exclusively by a KDE SIG member. ;-) ) Well, I use the xchat-gnome fork. I suspect quite a lot of other GNOME-y folks do...that one's maintained by Brian

Re: Make pkgdb grant co-maintainer status automatically? (was Re: Non-responsive maintainer fast track procedure for libsndfile)

2010-07-06 Thread Kevin Kofler
Orcan Ogetbil wrote: Some mailing list like dumping-gro...@fedoraproject.org. I am sure someone can come up with a better name. [snip] Yes. And everyone who is subscribed to the above mailing list is a potential maintainer of those packages with 0 principal maintainers. Well, you'd have to

Re: Make pkgdb grant co-maintainer status automatically? (was Re: Non-responsive maintainer fast track procedure for libsndfile)

2010-07-06 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 01:56:41 +0200, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: Richard W.M. Jones wrote: I think this is another problem with pkgdb or Fedora. Why is there a maintainer (owner?) and co-maintainers, rather than just having all co-maintainers be equal? Good point. I

Re: Make pkgdb grant co-maintainer status automatically? (was Re: Non-responsive maintainer fast track procedure for libsndfile)

2010-07-06 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 01:56:41AM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: Richard W.M. Jones wrote: I think this is another problem with pkgdb or Fedora. Why is there a maintainer (owner?) and co-maintainers, rather than just having all co-maintainers be equal? It was set up this way because of

Non-responsive maintainer fast track procedure for libsndfile

2010-07-05 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
Hi all, I'm initiating a fast track procedure for libsndfile -- a security bug has been reported for over a year, and there has been no response from maintainer: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=488364 Here is the fesco ticket: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/412 Regards, --

Re: Non-responsive maintainer fast track procedure for libsndfile

2010-07-05 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 6:17 PM, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote: Hi all, I'm initiating a fast track procedure for libsndfile -- a security bug has been reported for over a year, and there has been no response from maintainer We made many attempts to reach him last year. See:

Re: Non-responsive maintainer fast track procedure for libsndfile

2010-07-05 Thread Chris Jones
This seems to be happening a lot lately regarding maintainers and/or co-maintainers losing interest in their projects somewhere along the line and just stopping development without any warning and notification to other members who may be interested. I am wondering, is the process efficient enough