Re: Package owner required for ImageMagick

2021-10-27 Thread Sérgio Basto
Hi, I remember a few years ago an imageMagick upgrade , we made one 
compat-ImageMagick693 [1] and after a few days the packages was not
needed anymore . 
I propose do the same , do one compat-ImageMagick6.9.12 and after
upgrade ImageMagick to 7 ... 


[1] 
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/?packages=compat-ImageMagick693


On Tue, 2021-10-26 at 10:47 +, Michael J Gruber wrote:
> Sounds as if we need to keep ImageMagick 6.x for legacy reasons as long
> as it's safe to do so, but instead of switching to 7.x at some point,
> switching to GraphicsMagick is at most as much work if not less, but
> more future-proof?
> 
> [Judging from the current state of upstreams which is subject to
> change, of course.]
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Re: Package owner required for ImageMagick

2021-10-26 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 10:47:14AM -, Michael J Gruber wrote:
> Sounds as if we need to keep ImageMagick 6.x for legacy reasons as long as
> it's safe to do so, but instead of switching to 7.x at some point,
> switching to GraphicsMagick is at most as much work if not less, but more
> future-proof?

As someone who endorsed this suggestion before, I should probably make sure
this contrary view is seen: 

   https://stackoverflow.com/a/56220630/479426 

In short, in the 20 years since the fork, ImageMagick has grown a lot of
fancy new features, and may in fact be better behaved in some
security-related cases.

However, I am still in favor of replacing ImageMagick with GraphicsMagick,
because:

1. If your use case is advanced image processing for, for example, computer
   vision, there are _so many other better library-based approaches_, and

2. If security is your concern, _oh god please don't do that it's too late
   already_.



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Re: Package owner required for ImageMagick

2021-10-26 Thread Michael J Gruber
Sounds as if we need to keep ImageMagick 6.x for legacy reasons as long as it's 
safe to do so, but instead of switching to 7.x at some point, switching to 
GraphicsMagick is at most as much work if not less, but more future-proof?

[Judging from the current state of upstreams which is subject to change, of 
course.]
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Re: Package owner required for ImageMagick

2021-10-25 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga


On 2021-10-15 21:38, Michael Cronenworth wrote:



@Luya, apologies for not providing you with a little more knowledge of 
the package. It isn't a simple package to maintain. Upgrades require 
great, great care and lots of rebuilds and alignment with other 
packages on every update.


@Michael, apologies accepted. I found out the hard way which was an 
informative lesson. At least I got a co-maintainers willing to assist me 
to align with other packages including darktable-tools-noise, part of 
Design Suite Labs.


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Re: Package owner required for ImageMagick

2021-10-15 Thread Michael Cronenworth

On 10/14/21 11:17 PM, Neal Gompa wrote:

Also note that ImageMagick is in the unusual position of not actually
being upgraded to the latest version. One of the first things that
you'll probably want to look at is upgrading it to ImageMagick 7.x.
ImageMagick 6.x is not maintained upstream as far as I can tell.


Yes, and the maintainer prior to me had tried to push a 7.x update and then promptly 
abandoned the package after a mess was made.


ImageMagick 7.x has a different API and requires porting apps. Apps are not 
interested in 7.x and will use 6.x until they're forced to change.


@Luya, apologies for not providing you with a little more knowledge of the package. 
It isn't a simple package to maintain. Upgrades require great, great care and lots 
of rebuilds and alignment with other packages on every update.

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Re: Package owner required for ImageMagick

2021-10-15 Thread Peter Boy


> Am 15.10.2021 um 06:17 schrieb Neal Gompa :
> 
> you'll probably want to look at is upgrading it to ImageMagick 7.x.
> ImageMagick 6.x is not maintained upstream as far as I can tell.

https://imagemagick.org/index.php: "We continue to maintain the legacy release 
of ImageMagick, version 6, at https://legacy.imagemagick.org.“ Last update of 
rpm files: 2021-10-10
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Re: Package owner required for ImageMagick

2021-10-14 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 6:27 PM Matthew Miller  wrote:
>
> On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 08:13:55AM -0400, Troy Curtis Jr wrote:
> > > I will take that package because it is used by Fedora Design team for
> > > conversion and some applications depend on it.
> > Luya, if you'd also like some help, I'd be happy to co-maintain this with
> > you. I find myself using it in various scenarios.
>
> Not that I want to dissuade you, but note that for many such scenarios,
> GraphicsMagick is a drop-in replacement. Or close to drop-in. Rather than
> one single command, everything goes through "gm". So instead of `convert`,
> it's `gm convert`; instead of `mogrify`, `gm mogrify`. It was originally a
> fork, but that was almost 20 years ago.
>

Also note that ImageMagick is in the unusual position of not actually
being upgraded to the latest version. One of the first things that
you'll probably want to look at is upgrading it to ImageMagick 7.x.
ImageMagick 6.x is not maintained upstream as far as I can tell.




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Re: Package owner required for ImageMagick

2021-10-14 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 08:13:55AM -0400, Troy Curtis Jr wrote:
> > I will take that package because it is used by Fedora Design team for
> > conversion and some applications depend on it.
> Luya, if you'd also like some help, I'd be happy to co-maintain this with
> you. I find myself using it in various scenarios.

Not that I want to dissuade you, but note that for many such scenarios,
GraphicsMagick is a drop-in replacement. Or close to drop-in. Rather than
one single command, everything goes through "gm". So instead of `convert`,
it's `gm convert`; instead of `mogrify`, `gm mogrify`. It was originally a
fork, but that was almost 20 years ago.


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Re: Package owner required for ImageMagick

2021-10-13 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga


On 2021-10-13 05:13, Troy Curtis Jr wrote:



On Tue, Oct 12, 2021, 10:14 PM Luya Tshimbalanga 
 wrote:



On 2021-10-12 15:37, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I would like to put out a public call for a new primary owner for
> ImageMagick[1].
>
> I only picked it up a few years ago to prevent it from being
orphaned,
> but I no longer have the desire or time to maintain it.
>
> Thanks,
> Michael
>
> [1] https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/ImageMagick
>
Hello Michael,

I will take that package because it is used by Fedora Design team for
conversion and some applications depend on it.


Luya, if you'd also like some help, I'd be happy to co-maintain this 
with you. I find myself using it in various scenarios.


Troy



Thanks, Troy. I added you to the list.

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Re: Package owner required for ImageMagick

2021-10-13 Thread Troy Curtis Jr
On Tue, Oct 12, 2021, 10:14 PM Luya Tshimbalanga 
wrote:

>
> On 2021-10-12 15:37, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I would like to put out a public call for a new primary owner for
> > ImageMagick[1].
> >
> > I only picked it up a few years ago to prevent it from being orphaned,
> > but I no longer have the desire or time to maintain it.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Michael
> >
> > [1] https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/ImageMagick
> >
> Hello Michael,
>
> I will take that package because it is used by Fedora Design team for
> conversion and some applications depend on it.
>

Luya, if you'd also like some help, I'd be happy to co-maintain this with
you. I find myself using it in various scenarios.

Troy


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Re: Package owner required for ImageMagick

2021-10-12 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga


On 2021-10-12 15:37, Michael Cronenworth wrote:

Hi all,

I would like to put out a public call for a new primary owner for 
ImageMagick[1].


I only picked it up a few years ago to prevent it from being orphaned, 
but I no longer have the desire or time to maintain it.


Thanks,
Michael

[1] https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/ImageMagick


Hello Michael,

I will take that package because it is used by Fedora Design team for 
conversion and some applications depend on it.


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Package owner required for ImageMagick

2021-10-12 Thread Michael Cronenworth

Hi all,

I would like to put out a public call for a new primary owner for 
ImageMagick[1].

I only picked it up a few years ago to prevent it from being orphaned, but I no 
longer have the desire or time to maintain it.


Thanks,
Michael

[1] https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/ImageMagick
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