Re: Reopening: Q: webfonts:

2013-12-06 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Petr Vobornik pvobo...@redhat.com wrote: This solution is much nicer and can be used by other font packages as well. Here's the new package: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1036754 Very awesome, thanks! I'll sponsor you and review. :-) Luckily, I

Re: Reopening: Q: webfonts:

2013-12-02 Thread Petr Vobornik
On 11/30/2013 09:04 PM, Paul Flo Williams wrote: Petr Vobornik wrote: Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Just write a fontforge or ttx script that flips this bit at rpm build time, assuming you've done your legal review correctly the bit is in contradiction with the font license (if the font was no

Re: Reopening: Q: webfonts:

2013-11-30 Thread Paul Flo Williams
Petr Vobornik wrote: Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Just write a fontforge or ttx script that flips this bit at rpm build time, assuming you've done your legal review correctly the bit is in contradiction with the font license (if the font was no installable we could not package it in the first

Re: Reopening: Q: webfonts:

2013-11-28 Thread Paul Flo Williams
Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Le Mer 27 novembre 2013 15:39, Petr Vobornik a écrit : OTF/TTF fails in all modern versions of IE when the font does not have embedding permissions set to 'installable' [1]. It's more common that one would say. Of course it is very common, it's the default setting

Re: Reopening: Q: webfonts:

2013-11-28 Thread Petr Vobornik
On 11/28/2013 02:25 PM, Paul Flo Williams wrote: Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Le Mer 27 novembre 2013 15:39, Petr Vobornik a écrit : OTF/TTF fails in all modern versions of IE when the font does not have embedding permissions set to 'installable' [1]. It's more common that one would say. Of

Reopening: Q: webfonts:

2013-11-27 Thread Petr Vobornik
Hi, I would like to reopen the discussion about packaging web fonts since its conclusion(below) is not very usable. The issue I'm dealing with is that we want FreeIPA Web UI to use Open Sans and Font Awesome(FA) font. FA is being packaged and I planned to package Open Sans (Apache license

Re: Reopening: Q: webfonts:

2013-11-27 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Mer 27 novembre 2013 15:39, Petr Vobornik a écrit : Hi, I would like to reopen the discussion about packaging web fonts since its conclusion(below) is not very usable. The issue I'm dealing with is that we want FreeIPA Web UI to use Open Sans and Font Awesome(FA) font. FA is being

Re: Q: webfonts:

2013-05-06 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Dim 5 mai 2013 12:30, Alec Leamas a écrit : On 05/05/2013 11:40 AM, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Are you sure it works well in IE8 at all? Because there are lots of other reasons a modern web site will fail in old ie versions Double checking... and you're right, openerp only supports IE 9+.

Re: Q: webfonts:

2013-05-05 Thread Alec Leamas
On 05/03/2013 09:50 PM, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Le Ven 3 mai 2013 21:06, Alec Leamas a écrit : Still hesitating a here: if upstream has decided to support the widest possible set of browsers (including IE): should we really just drop the formats required by IE? From a user perspective, I

Re: Q: webfonts:

2013-05-05 Thread Felix Miata
On 2013-05-05 10:19 (GMT+0200) Alec Leamas composed: Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Here is the current status of @font-face ttf/otf support in browsers: http://caniuse.com/ttf ... This seems to mean that we force web applications to exclude IE version 8 (and older) clients. As this seems to be

Re: Q: webfonts:

2013-05-05 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Dim 5 mai 2013 10:19, Alec Leamas a écrit : This seems to mean that we force web applications to exclude IE version 8 (and older) clients. As this seems to be a widely used IE version today, is this really the way to go? It seems to be a case of Fedora being first and Microsoft being

Re: Q: webfonts:

2013-05-05 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Dim 5 mai 2013 06:40, T.C. Hollingsworth a écrit : On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net wrote: I think spot will agree there is no way we'll ever ship a font consisting of company logos, it's trademark hell We ship *lots* of trademarked logos. In

Re: Q: webfonts:

2013-05-05 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Dim 5 mai 2013 11:27, Felix Miata a écrit : On 2013-05-05 10:19 (GMT+0200) Alec Leamas composed: Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Here is the current status of @font-face ttf/otf support in browsers: http://caniuse.com/ttf ... This seems to mean that we force web applications to exclude IE

Re: Q: webfonts:

2013-05-05 Thread Felix Miata
On 2013-05-05 11:44 (GMT+0200) Nicolas Mailhot composed: XP is out-of-support Microsoft-side. For what definition of out-of-support? http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/endofsupport.aspx Considering Fedora release lifetimes, WinXP seems to have abundant life left. -- The wise are known

Re: Q: webfonts:

2013-05-05 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Dim 5 mai 2013 12:01, Felix Miata a écrit : On 2013-05-05 11:44 (GMT+0200) Nicolas Mailhot composed: XP is out-of-support Microsoft-side. For what definition of out-of-support? http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/endofsupport.aspx Considering Fedora release lifetimes, WinXP seems

Re: Q: webfonts:

2013-05-05 Thread Alec Leamas
On 05/05/2013 11:40 AM, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Le Dim 5 mai 2013 10:19, Alec Leamas a écrit : This seems to mean that we force web applications to exclude IE version 8 (and older) clients. As this seems to be a widely used IE version today, is this really the way to go? It seems to be a case

Re: Q: webfonts:

2013-05-05 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 05.05.2013 11:44, schrieb Nicolas Mailhot: And XP is out-of-support Microsoft-side. So any company use (that is what is being talked about here) is likely to stop soonish fix your calendar there where i live we have 2013 and not 2014 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Q: webfonts:

2013-05-04 Thread Alec Leamas
On 05/03/2013 09:50 PM, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: [cut] I'm truly a font newbie. That said, is there really a meaningful fallback for a font such as sozial (https://github.com/adamstac/zocial)? I. e., is there a reasonable fallback for a Facebook button? I think spot will agree there is no way

Re: Q: webfonts:

2013-05-04 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net wrote: I think spot will agree there is no way we'll ever ship a font consisting of company logos, it's trademark hell We ship *lots* of trademarked logos. In Firefox alone there are trademarked logos from Mozilla,

Re: Q: webfonts:

2013-05-03 Thread Miroslav Suchý
On 04/29/2013 11:22 AM, Alec Leamas wrote: The reply makes me feel a little more confused, on a higher level. How does that reply translate to the packaging of a web application with some bundled webfonts ? scratching my head. Me too :) Note that in my case the fonts are just just images

Re: Q: webfonts:

2013-05-03 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Lun 29 avril 2013 11:22, Alec Leamas a écrit : The reply makes me feel a little more confused, on a higher level. How does that reply translate to the packaging of a web application with some bundled webfonts ? scratching my head. That means that you usually do not need a special format

Re: Q: webfonts:

2013-05-03 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Ven 3 mai 2013 14:45, Miroslav Suchý a écrit : Note that in my case the fonts are just just images and icons, which makes the normal font fallback mechanisms useless. They are needed, period. Well it is not defined in policy. Actually, the current policy forbids fonts anywhere but in

Re: Q: webfonts:

2013-05-03 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
NM == Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net writes: NM I'm not convinced at all this needs changing, since mod_alias NM permits mapping of system paths anywhere you want in your URL space. But selinux probably doesn't, so the issue is slightly more complicated. - J -- devel mailing

Re: Q: webfonts:

2013-05-03 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Ven 3 mai 2013 16:24, Jason L Tibbitts III a écrit : NM == Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net writes: NM I'm not convinced at all this needs changing, since mod_alias NM permits mapping of system paths anywhere you want in your URL space. But selinux probably doesn't, so the

Re: Q: webfonts:

2013-05-03 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
NM == Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net writes: NM I don't think selinux will block web server accesses to NM /usr/share/fonts/something, since we deploy webapps in NM /usr/share/something_else, which is pretty much the same namespace. Well, there are a whole lot of specific fcontext

Re: Q: webfonts:

2013-05-03 Thread Alec Leamas
On 05/03/2013 03:51 PM, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Le Lun 29 avril 2013 11:22, Alec Leamas a écrit : The reply makes me feel a little more confused, on a higher level. How does that reply translate to the packaging of a web application with some bundled webfonts ? scratching my head. That means

Re: Q: webfonts:

2013-05-03 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Ven 3 mai 2013 21:06, Alec Leamas a écrit : Still hesitating a here: if upstream has decided to support the widest possible set of browsers (including IE): should we really just drop the formats required by IE? From a user perspective, I don't really follow this although I do understand

Re: Q: webfonts:

2013-05-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-05-03 at 10:15 -0500, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: NM == Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net writes: NM I don't think selinux will block web server accesses to NM /usr/share/fonts/something, since we deploy webapps in NM /usr/share/something_else, which is pretty much

Re: Q: webfonts:

2013-04-29 Thread Miroslav Suchý
On 04/27/2013 01:49 PM, Alec Leamas wrote: I'm trying to package a web application with bundled fonts. These fonts are used by the web clients (browsers), and just served from the Fedora webapp. The case is similar to javascript .js files. Trying to package the webfonts as dependencies I have

Re: Q: webfonts:

2013-04-29 Thread Alec Leamas
On 04/29/2013 11:04 AM, Miroslav Suchý wrote: On 04/27/2013 01:49 PM, Alec Leamas wrote: I'm trying to package a web application with bundled fonts. These fonts are used by the web clients (browsers), and just served from the Fedora webapp. The case is similar to javascript .js files. Trying

Q: webfonts:

2013-04-27 Thread Alec Leamas
Hi! I'm trying to package a web application with bundled fonts. These fonts are used by the web clients (browsers), and just served from the Fedora webapp. The case is similar to javascript .js files. Trying to package the webfonts as dependencies I have run into problem together with my