Re: Questions about font packaging, hinting and non-responsive maintainer process

2015-03-06 Thread Alexander Ploumistos
On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 5:04 AM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: I think we are much better off shipping the unhinted version then, letting the Freetype autohinter do its job. Agreed. So that takes care of the question of including the HTML file with the comparison of the two. As far

Re: Questions about font packaging, hinting and non-responsive maintainer process

2015-03-05 Thread Alexander Ploumistos
He wrote back, here's what I've learned: 1. He uses a program called Fontographer by Fontlab [1] which apparently includes a couple of algorithms for autohinting. He said that it would be a huge task to do the hinting manually for such a large number of glyphs, so it's all done by the software. 2.

Re: Questions about font packaging, hinting and non-responsive maintainer process

2015-03-05 Thread Alexander Ploumistos
I've contacted upstream about the hinting, I'll report when I hear back. In the mean time, can anyone offer any advice on the other points besides hinting? -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct:

Re: Questions about font packaging, hinting and non-responsive maintainer process

2015-03-05 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 03/05/2015 09:02 AM, Michael Catanzaro wrote: (Unless they are bad hints. Slightly ironic that Cantarell looks better with the autohinter.) Cantarell has been broken for a while, but nothing has been done to fix it. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=647003

Re: Questions about font packaging, hinting and non-responsive maintainer process

2015-03-05 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, 2015-03-05 at 02:03 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: Are those hinting instructions manually tuned or autogenerated with ttfautohint? If it's the latter, there's no value in them because Freetype already uses essentially the same autohinting algorithms ttfautohint uses, ttfautohint was

Re: Questions about font packaging, hinting and non-responsive maintainer process

2015-03-05 Thread Kevin Kofler
Alexander Ploumistos wrote: 1. He uses a program called Fontographer by Fontlab [1] which apparently includes a couple of algorithms for autohinting. He said that it would be a huge task to do the hinting manually for such a large number of glyphs, so it's all done by the software. Ewww, a

Questions about font packaging, hinting and non-responsive maintainer process

2015-03-04 Thread Alexander Ploumistos
Hello, A few days ago I was fooling around with Unicode stuff and I noticed that the Symbola font had been updated upstream, but not in Fedora, so I decided to have a go at repackaging it and submitting the spec file to the maintainer. Turns out it was more fun than I thought it would be. 1.

Re: Questions about font packaging, hinting and non-responsive maintainer process

2015-03-04 Thread Kevin Kofler
Alexander Ploumistos wrote: 1. There are now 2 fonts, the usual Symbola.ttf plus another one, Symbola_hint.ttf, which includes hinting instructions. I had a really hard time trying to find differences between the two, Are those hinting instructions manually tuned or autogenerated with

Re: Questions about font packaging, hinting and non-responsive maintainer process

2015-03-04 Thread Alexander Ploumistos
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 3:03 AM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: Are those hinting instructions manually tuned or autogenerated with ttfautohint? I haven't the faintest idea. Should I contact upstream, or is there a way to extract that information from the font tables? The creator