Re: Questions about the 'request-branch' experience

2020-08-19 Thread Scott Talbert

On Wed, 19 Aug 2020, Christopher wrote:


So, just to be absolutely clear... I can remove the file, just do
epel8 as normal, and completely ignore the epel8-playground branch
forever?


As best as I can tell, yes.  I have at least one package in epel8 that 
doesn't have the package.cfg and it works okay.  It just doesn't build 
stuff automatically on epel8-playground.  You might get bug reports from 
people who have epel8-playground enabled and can't install your package 
though.


You might get wider input on this on the epel-devel mailing list.

Also, I think there is some plan in the works to change how 
epel8-playground works.



Can I have the extra commit that added the file removed by
force-pushing the prior commit, so it's easier to fast-forward merge
my 'master' branch onto epel8 without doing a bunch of crazy git merge
nonsense so they have the same HEAD commit?


I don't think you can force-push to dist-git so unfortunately you're stuck 
with that commit forever.  There *is* a way to get your branches created 
without that commit in the first place, but it's too late for that now.



Can I have the epel8-playground branch removed? I never wanted it. I
know I can just ignore it and never check it out locally... but...
it's going to bug me being there on the remote.


Nope, you can't remove branches on dist-git.

Scott
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Re: Questions about the 'request-branch' experience

2020-08-19 Thread Christopher
On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 9:12 AM Scott Talbert  wrote:
>
> On Wed, 19 Aug 2020, Christopher wrote:
>
> > 1. Do I need epel8-playground? I want to keep the task of maintenance
> > simple, and I don't want to deal with another branch to think about. I
> > don't want choices, as that adds complexity. I want one simple path,
> > because packaging is *not* my full time job.
>
> Under the normal configuration, you don't need to really worry about
> epel8-playground, if you don't want to.  Whatever you build in epel8 will
> automatically be built in epel8-playground also.
>
> > 2. Can I remove the 'package.cfg' file? Is it needed? Will everything
> > work with epel8-testing and going to epel8-stable if this file is
> > removed? I'd really like to maintain a single git history, rather than
> > two, and the presence of this file seems to interfere with that.
> > (Alternatively, if the package.cfg file contained some conditional
> > directive, like 'if-branch = epel8', which probably should have been
> > the design, in order to support single git history packages like me,
> > then I wouldn't mind the file being present in the master/rawhide
> > branch, but it doesn't.)
>
> You can technically remove it.  Then, nothing will be built in
> epel8-playground automatically.  It won't affect epel8.
>
> Scott

So, just to be absolutely clear... I can remove the file, just do
epel8 as normal, and completely ignore the epel8-playground branch
forever?

Can I have the extra commit that added the file removed by
force-pushing the prior commit, so it's easier to fast-forward merge
my 'master' branch onto epel8 without doing a bunch of crazy git merge
nonsense so they have the same HEAD commit?

Can I have the epel8-playground branch removed? I never wanted it. I
know I can just ignore it and never check it out locally... but...
it's going to bug me being there on the remote.

Sorry for all the questions. I don't normally care about EPEL, so all
this is a bit new to me. Thank you for indulging me.
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Re: Questions about the 'request-branch' experience

2020-08-19 Thread Scott Talbert

On Wed, 19 Aug 2020, Christopher wrote:


1. Do I need epel8-playground? I want to keep the task of maintenance
simple, and I don't want to deal with another branch to think about. I
don't want choices, as that adds complexity. I want one simple path,
because packaging is *not* my full time job.


Under the normal configuration, you don't need to really worry about 
epel8-playground, if you don't want to.  Whatever you build in epel8 will 
automatically be built in epel8-playground also.



2. Can I remove the 'package.cfg' file? Is it needed? Will everything
work with epel8-testing and going to epel8-stable if this file is
removed? I'd really like to maintain a single git history, rather than
two, and the presence of this file seems to interfere with that.
(Alternatively, if the package.cfg file contained some conditional
directive, like 'if-branch = epel8', which probably should have been
the design, in order to support single git history packages like me,
then I wouldn't mind the file being present in the master/rawhide
branch, but it doesn't.)


You can technically remove it.  Then, nothing will be built in 
epel8-playground automatically.  It won't affect epel8.


Scott
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Re: Questions about the 'request-branch' experience

2020-08-19 Thread Christopher
On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 4:07 AM Petr Pisar  wrote:
>
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 11:15:14PM -0400, Christopher wrote:
> > I was recently asked to provide an EPEL8 version of one of my packages
> > (python-keyring) in a bugzilla, so I did:
> > fedpkg request-branch epel8
> >
> > This opened up two pagure tickets, one each for two branches:
> > epel8
> > epel8-playground
> >
> > After the branches were created, an extra commit was added to the
> > epel8 branch to create a package.cfg file (with a log message that had
> > extra double-quotes around it, for some reason).
> >
> > I have several questions:
> >
> > 1. Why did my request for a single branch automatically result in two
> > separate tickets for two separate branches?
> > 2. What is this '-playground' branch for?
> > 3. Why was an extra commit added to the empty branch that was requested?
> > 4. What is a package.cfg file? Do I need it?
> > 5. (unimportant, but curious) How did the extra quotes get in the
> > commit message that added the package.cfg file?
> >
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/epel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/KXMMLYSAXAVHDKFFBVEFYYZHPJBWXOQQ/

Thanks, but I'm still confused on a few points.

1. Do I need epel8-playground? I want to keep the task of maintenance
simple, and I don't want to deal with another branch to think about. I
don't want choices, as that adds complexity. I want one simple path,
because packaging is *not* my full time job.
2. Can I remove the 'package.cfg' file? Is it needed? Will everything
work with epel8-testing and going to epel8-stable if this file is
removed? I'd really like to maintain a single git history, rather than
two, and the presence of this file seems to interfere with that.
(Alternatively, if the package.cfg file contained some conditional
directive, like 'if-branch = epel8', which probably should have been
the design, in order to support single git history packages like me,
then I wouldn't mind the file being present in the master/rawhide
branch, but it doesn't.)
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Re: Questions about the 'request-branch' experience

2020-08-19 Thread Petr Pisar
On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 11:15:14PM -0400, Christopher wrote:
> I was recently asked to provide an EPEL8 version of one of my packages
> (python-keyring) in a bugzilla, so I did:
> fedpkg request-branch epel8
> 
> This opened up two pagure tickets, one each for two branches:
> epel8
> epel8-playground
> 
> After the branches were created, an extra commit was added to the
> epel8 branch to create a package.cfg file (with a log message that had
> extra double-quotes around it, for some reason).
> 
> I have several questions:
> 
> 1. Why did my request for a single branch automatically result in two
> separate tickets for two separate branches?
> 2. What is this '-playground' branch for?
> 3. Why was an extra commit added to the empty branch that was requested?
> 4. What is a package.cfg file? Do I need it?
> 5. (unimportant, but curious) How did the extra quotes get in the
> commit message that added the package.cfg file?
>
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/epel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/KXMMLYSAXAVHDKFFBVEFYYZHPJBWXOQQ/

-- Petr



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Questions about the 'request-branch' experience

2020-08-18 Thread Christopher
I was recently asked to provide an EPEL8 version of one of my packages
(python-keyring) in a bugzilla, so I did:
fedpkg request-branch epel8

This opened up two pagure tickets, one each for two branches:
epel8
epel8-playground

After the branches were created, an extra commit was added to the
epel8 branch to create a package.cfg file (with a log message that had
extra double-quotes around it, for some reason).

I have several questions:

1. Why did my request for a single branch automatically result in two
separate tickets for two separate branches?
2. What is this '-playground' branch for?
3. Why was an extra commit added to the empty branch that was requested?
4. What is a package.cfg file? Do I need it?
5. (unimportant, but curious) How did the extra quotes get in the
commit message that added the package.cfg file?

I'm particularly concerned about item 3 and 4, because if the file
must be present in epel8 and absent in master/f33/f32, then the
presence of the file seems like it will prevent me from doing
fast-forward merges to keep the same HEAD commit for all actively
maintained branches, which I like to do to make maintenance across
branches easier (using conditionals in the spec file, if necessary).

Sorry if these questions have been asked before. I could not easily
find concise answers to these questions pertaining to the overall
`fedpkg request-branch` experience..

Thanks,
Christopher
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